No Standing: What Marriage Radicals Really Think of "the People"
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Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse 663 S. Rancho Santa Fe Road Suite 222 San Marcos CA 92078
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No standing: what marriage
radicals really think of the
people
Is it same-sex marriage rights they want, or
a revolution in the American legal system?
ByJennifer Roback Morse
Photo by Jennifer Roback Morse
Last weeks hearing in the California
Supreme Court on whether the proponents
of Prop 8 have standing to defend the
measure in court seemed to go well for the
defenders of natural marriage. But another
issue lies beneath the surface of the court
arguments. The issue is what kind of people
are the marriage redefiners: Ted Olsen, Rob
Reiner, and the American Foundation for
Equal Rights?
Is their bid to deny Prop 8 proponents legal
standing just the next step in the unfolding
of the civil rights movement, as they seem to
perceive themselves? I think the evidence
from the courtroom shows beyond doubt
that we are dealing with something else
entirely. These people are bent on obtaining
a particular outcome, no matter what the
cost to the rest of the legal system.
Advocates of minimum government,especially libertarians, should be more than
wary about hanging around this type of
person: they should avoid them absolutely,
and call them out wherever possible.
Proposition 8 is the ballot initiative defining
marriage as the union of one man and one
women in the California Constitution. In
2008, California voters approved Prop 8,
with 51 per cent of the vote, approximatelythe margin of victory that elected Obama.
Since then, celebrity lawyers Ted Olsen and
David Boies have brought a suit in the
federal courts to argue that Proposition 8
violates the US Constitution.
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Please note the high stakes here. If the
courts decide that the US Constitution
requires the redefinition of marriage that
will be the end of the line for debate on the
subject in the US. We will have genderless
marriage throughout the US, overturning the
constitutions of the majority of states.
So, the point at issue in last weeks hearing
before the California Supreme Court was
whether the proponents of Prop 8 (that is,
the group of people who put Prop 8 on the
ballot and who are legally responsible for it)
have standing to defend the measure in
court.
Before I went to San Francisco to cover the
Prop 8 trial, Ihoped that the marriage
redefiners would try to distinguish their
case. That is, would they try to come up
with some argument that distinguishes the
proponents of Prop 8 from proponents of
other potential ballot initiatives? If they
make no attempt to do that, we might
conclude that they dont care whether they
destroy the initiative process. They just want
what they want, and they dont care about
collateral damage.
I am sorry, but not surprised, to report that
attorney Ted Olsen made no serious effort to
create a legal argument that would apply to
Prop 8 and not to other ballot measures. As I
sat in the jam-packed courtroom, I sensed
that the justices were appalled by his
cavalier attitude toward the voters. One by
one, the justices poked holes in Olsens
theory.
Justice Carol Corrigan observed that Olsens
theory would give the Attorney General the
right to pocket veto any voter initiative.
Justice Joyce Kennard noted that to agree
with Olsen is to nullify the power of the
people. Justice Kathryn Werdegar noted that
we (meaning the Supreme Court of
California) have always given ballot
proponents standing in court.
In addition, Chief Justice Tani Cantil-
Sakauye noted that this case was the first
case in history in which the proponents were
the sole defenders of a measure. In past
cases, the proponents have stood shoulder
to shoulder with the Attorney General. She
asked what would happen to the states
interest in a law, if the Attorney General
refused to defend it. Does the states
interest evaporate?
Even the newest member of the California
Supreme Court, thenotoriously liberal
advocate of marriage redefinition, Justice
Goodwin Liu, balked at the breathtaking
claims advanced by Ted Olsen. Doesnt it
blinker reality, he asked, to assert that
ballot proponents are no different from any
other citizen who voted for Prop 8?
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But the ultimate challenge to Olsens theory
came from Justice Ming Chin: Would you
really have us hearing only one side of this
case today? In effect, Olsens answer was,
yes, he would have the court hearing only
one side of the case: his own side.
This exchange should be a wake-up call to
everyone, especially for minimum
government libertarians. The behavior of the
marriage redefiners in this case illustrates
that they are not just another group of
citizens with a different opinion. These are
people who want what they want without
regard to the cost to our overall political and
social system. These are not reformers: these
are radicals.
Consider this: Ted Olsen and company
could have made all their arguments about
the unconstitutionality of man-woman
marriage without ever broaching the
question of standing. They did not need to
open this particular legal can of worms.
Evidently, they are willing to have the court
hear only one side of the case, as Justice
Chin observed. Justice Chin was visibly
appalled by the idea, but Olsen and friends
appeared to have no problem with it.
David Horowitz, Americas premier convert
to conservatism from radicalism, offers
trenchant observations about the radical
mentality. In his wonderful little pamphlet,
Obamas rules for revolution, he quotes
the famous radical strategist Saul Alinsky:
Power comes out of the barrel of a gun is
an absurd rallying cry when the other side
has all the guns. Lenin was a pragmatist;
when he returned to what was then
Petrograd from exile, he said that the
Bolsheviks stood for getting power through
the ballot but would reconsider after they
got the guns.
Modern American progressives used to
love the slogan power to the people when
they thought they could control the people.
Now that they are trying to shove something
down the throats of the people, the
progressives are ready to throw the people
under the bus, along with the initiative
process. Todays progressives are
perfectly willing to gut the peoples power
of initiative, just to give same sex couples
the right to marry.
Interestingly enough, very few such couples
actually take advantage of this right in
jurisdictions where it is permitted. This
suggests that the freedom to marry isnt
the only issue at stake here, and maybe isnt
even the main issue. David Horowitz again:
The issue is never the issue. The issue is
always the revolution.
It would take me too far afield to show in
this one article why I am convinced that
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redefining marriage will amount to a
massive transfer of power from civil society
to the state. Suffice to say for now, that
unmooring the concept of parenthood from
biology and handing it over to the state,
which the redefinition of marriage will
surely do, moves parenthood from a natural
pre-political reality to a completely artificial
creation of the state.
That is not my argument here. My argument
here is that the marriage redefiners showed
us their cards in the California Supreme
Court last week. These are scorched earth
people, take no prisoners people. Shame on
us if we dont play our cards accordingly.
Jennifer Roback Morse, Ph.D. is aneconomist and the Founder and President of
theRuth Institute, a nonprofit educationalorganization devoted to bringing hope and
encouragement for lifelong married love.She is also the author of77 Non-Religious
Reasons to Support Man/Woman Marriage,
Love and Economics: It Takes a Family toRaise a Village andSmart Sex: Finding
Life-Long Love in a Hook-Up World.
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