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    Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse 663 S. Rancho Santa Fe Road Suite 222 San Marcos CA 92078

    www.jennifer-roback-morse.com email: [email protected] 760/295-92782007 No part of this document may be reproduced or disseminated in any way without the expressed written consent of theRuth Institute.

    No standing: what marriage

    radicals really think of the

    people

    Is it same-sex marriage rights they want, or

    a revolution in the American legal system?

    ByJennifer Roback Morse

    Photo by Jennifer Roback Morse

    Last weeks hearing in the California

    Supreme Court on whether the proponents

    of Prop 8 have standing to defend the

    measure in court seemed to go well for the

    defenders of natural marriage. But another

    issue lies beneath the surface of the court

    arguments. The issue is what kind of people

    are the marriage redefiners: Ted Olsen, Rob

    Reiner, and the American Foundation for

    Equal Rights?

    Is their bid to deny Prop 8 proponents legal

    standing just the next step in the unfolding

    of the civil rights movement, as they seem to

    perceive themselves? I think the evidence

    from the courtroom shows beyond doubt

    that we are dealing with something else

    entirely. These people are bent on obtaining

    a particular outcome, no matter what the

    cost to the rest of the legal system.

    Advocates of minimum government,especially libertarians, should be more than

    wary about hanging around this type of

    person: they should avoid them absolutely,

    and call them out wherever possible.

    Proposition 8 is the ballot initiative defining

    marriage as the union of one man and one

    women in the California Constitution. In

    2008, California voters approved Prop 8,

    with 51 per cent of the vote, approximatelythe margin of victory that elected Obama.

    Since then, celebrity lawyers Ted Olsen and

    David Boies have brought a suit in the

    federal courts to argue that Proposition 8

    violates the US Constitution.

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    Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse 663 S. Rancho Santa Fe Road Suite 222 San Marcos CA 92078

    www.jennifer-roback-morse.com email: [email protected] 760/295-92782007 No part of this document may be reproduced or disseminated in any way without the expressed written consent of theRuth Institute.

    Please note the high stakes here. If the

    courts decide that the US Constitution

    requires the redefinition of marriage that

    will be the end of the line for debate on the

    subject in the US. We will have genderless

    marriage throughout the US, overturning the

    constitutions of the majority of states.

    So, the point at issue in last weeks hearing

    before the California Supreme Court was

    whether the proponents of Prop 8 (that is,

    the group of people who put Prop 8 on the

    ballot and who are legally responsible for it)

    have standing to defend the measure in

    court.

    Before I went to San Francisco to cover the

    Prop 8 trial, Ihoped that the marriage

    redefiners would try to distinguish their

    case. That is, would they try to come up

    with some argument that distinguishes the

    proponents of Prop 8 from proponents of

    other potential ballot initiatives? If they

    make no attempt to do that, we might

    conclude that they dont care whether they

    destroy the initiative process. They just want

    what they want, and they dont care about

    collateral damage.

    I am sorry, but not surprised, to report that

    attorney Ted Olsen made no serious effort to

    create a legal argument that would apply to

    Prop 8 and not to other ballot measures. As I

    sat in the jam-packed courtroom, I sensed

    that the justices were appalled by his

    cavalier attitude toward the voters. One by

    one, the justices poked holes in Olsens

    theory.

    Justice Carol Corrigan observed that Olsens

    theory would give the Attorney General the

    right to pocket veto any voter initiative.

    Justice Joyce Kennard noted that to agree

    with Olsen is to nullify the power of the

    people. Justice Kathryn Werdegar noted that

    we (meaning the Supreme Court of

    California) have always given ballot

    proponents standing in court.

    In addition, Chief Justice Tani Cantil-

    Sakauye noted that this case was the first

    case in history in which the proponents were

    the sole defenders of a measure. In past

    cases, the proponents have stood shoulder

    to shoulder with the Attorney General. She

    asked what would happen to the states

    interest in a law, if the Attorney General

    refused to defend it. Does the states

    interest evaporate?

    Even the newest member of the California

    Supreme Court, thenotoriously liberal

    advocate of marriage redefinition, Justice

    Goodwin Liu, balked at the breathtaking

    claims advanced by Ted Olsen. Doesnt it

    blinker reality, he asked, to assert that

    ballot proponents are no different from any

    other citizen who voted for Prop 8?

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    Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse 663 S. Rancho Santa Fe Road Suite 222 San Marcos CA 92078

    www.jennifer-roback-morse.com email: [email protected] 760/295-92782007 No part of this document may be reproduced or disseminated in any way without the expressed written consent of theRuth Institute.

    But the ultimate challenge to Olsens theory

    came from Justice Ming Chin: Would you

    really have us hearing only one side of this

    case today? In effect, Olsens answer was,

    yes, he would have the court hearing only

    one side of the case: his own side.

    This exchange should be a wake-up call to

    everyone, especially for minimum

    government libertarians. The behavior of the

    marriage redefiners in this case illustrates

    that they are not just another group of

    citizens with a different opinion. These are

    people who want what they want without

    regard to the cost to our overall political and

    social system. These are not reformers: these

    are radicals.

    Consider this: Ted Olsen and company

    could have made all their arguments about

    the unconstitutionality of man-woman

    marriage without ever broaching the

    question of standing. They did not need to

    open this particular legal can of worms.

    Evidently, they are willing to have the court

    hear only one side of the case, as Justice

    Chin observed. Justice Chin was visibly

    appalled by the idea, but Olsen and friends

    appeared to have no problem with it.

    David Horowitz, Americas premier convert

    to conservatism from radicalism, offers

    trenchant observations about the radical

    mentality. In his wonderful little pamphlet,

    Obamas rules for revolution, he quotes

    the famous radical strategist Saul Alinsky:

    Power comes out of the barrel of a gun is

    an absurd rallying cry when the other side

    has all the guns. Lenin was a pragmatist;

    when he returned to what was then

    Petrograd from exile, he said that the

    Bolsheviks stood for getting power through

    the ballot but would reconsider after they

    got the guns.

    Modern American progressives used to

    love the slogan power to the people when

    they thought they could control the people.

    Now that they are trying to shove something

    down the throats of the people, the

    progressives are ready to throw the people

    under the bus, along with the initiative

    process. Todays progressives are

    perfectly willing to gut the peoples power

    of initiative, just to give same sex couples

    the right to marry.

    Interestingly enough, very few such couples

    actually take advantage of this right in

    jurisdictions where it is permitted. This

    suggests that the freedom to marry isnt

    the only issue at stake here, and maybe isnt

    even the main issue. David Horowitz again:

    The issue is never the issue. The issue is

    always the revolution.

    It would take me too far afield to show in

    this one article why I am convinced that

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    Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse 663 S. Rancho Santa Fe Road Suite 222 San Marcos CA 92078

    www.jennifer-roback-morse.com email: [email protected] 760/295-92782007 No part of this document may be reproduced or disseminated in any way without the expressed written consent of theRuth Institute.

    redefining marriage will amount to a

    massive transfer of power from civil society

    to the state. Suffice to say for now, that

    unmooring the concept of parenthood from

    biology and handing it over to the state,

    which the redefinition of marriage will

    surely do, moves parenthood from a natural

    pre-political reality to a completely artificial

    creation of the state.

    That is not my argument here. My argument

    here is that the marriage redefiners showed

    us their cards in the California Supreme

    Court last week. These are scorched earth

    people, take no prisoners people. Shame on

    us if we dont play our cards accordingly.

    Jennifer Roback Morse, Ph.D. is aneconomist and the Founder and President of

    theRuth Institute, a nonprofit educationalorganization devoted to bringing hope and

    encouragement for lifelong married love.She is also the author of77 Non-Religious

    Reasons to Support Man/Woman Marriage,

    Love and Economics: It Takes a Family toRaise a Village andSmart Sex: Finding

    Life-Long Love in a Hook-Up World.

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