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<< Previous Topic | Next Topic >> My project - Girandoni! October 17 2010 at 9:41 AM Mykhaylo GERASYMOV (Login archengel) from IP address 78.94.154.147 Hi, dear friends, I am from the Ukraine, my name is Mykhaylo - Michael in English, and I am new one here! This is my first post! An year ago, I have met in the internet an interesting story, how a group of Girardoni fans have made a replica of this rifle - this rifle was so fascinating - that I wanted to know more about, after a long search I have met many other people hwo have made replicas of Girandoni ... of cause it was imposible to start the reproducing of the rifle in a little flat without tools, and without skills ... everything what I have head only a very large wish and notebook - I have seen once on one internetforum, who the people reproduce the modern weapons with very simple method - like this ones ... http://talks.guns.ru/forummessage/122/542570.html http://talks.guns.ru/forummessage/122/542215.html I started to search for pictures in internet, it was imposible to find something exept of Beeman.net, where he shows his reconstruction attempt, nothing to do and I have used very dirty trick, , I have put a notice on one internet forum, that I am a very rich crasy antique air rifle collector from Russia, who is looking for the Girandoni Rifle and ready to pay thousends for it, may be more , and I have get pictures, of cause I was not satisfide - I must look in wich state the rifle was - it is normal, by such deals - even if you want to get a good car, you must throgh alook inside a motor appartment ... after getting pictures fromvsellers, I have desapeared from antique weapon forum and gone to the 3d designers school, where I have said - I want to be an 3d designer in a week ... they have gave me a pair lessons have called me crasy - to my idea - they have said - it is impossible! After an year of my waisting time near my notebook you can see a result of it ... then I have searched for the CNC-Worker, who want to loose his job making in a dinner pause ordering other people ... sorry, but this is so ... a pirson have made a 3D-Model, want to realise it in metal, looks for someone - who take private orderings ... because if I ask a CNC firm to make my Girardoni parts it costs like an BOING 747, in this way it was not so expensive - it was expensive - because only one part - and for this part was made a programm, and I have said to the worker - the tolerance must be 0,00000001 - or .... BANG- BANG in 3D ... L I N K S

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My project - Girandoni!October 17 2010 at 9:41 AM

Mykhaylo GERASYMOV (Login archengel) from IP address 78.94.154.147

Hi, dear friends, I am from the Ukraine, my name is Mykhaylo - Michael in English, and I am newone here! This is my first post!

An year ago, I have met in the internet an interesting story, how a group of Girardoni fans have made areplica of this rifle - this rifle was so fascinating - that I wanted to know more about, after a longsearch I have met many other people hwo have made replicas of Girandoni ... of cause it wasimposible to start the reproducing of the rifle in a little flat without tools, and without skills ...everything what I have head only a very large wish and notebook - I have seen once on oneinternetforum, who the people reproduce the modern weapons with very simple method - like thisones ...

http://talks.guns.ru/forummessage/122/542570.html

http://talks.guns.ru/forummessage/122/542215.html

I started to search for pictures in internet, it was imposible to find something exept of Beeman.net,where he shows his reconstruction attempt, nothing to do and I have used very dirty trick, , I haveput a notice on one internet forum, that I am a very rich crasy antique air rifle collector from Russia,

who is looking for the Girandoni Rifle and ready to pay thousends for it, may be more , and I have get pictures, of cause I was not satisfide - I must look inwich state the rifle was - it is normal, by such deals - even if you want to get a good car, you must throgh alook inside a motor appartment ... after gettingpictures fromvsellers, I have desapeared from antique weapon forum and gone to the 3d designers school, where I have said - I want to be an 3d designer in aweek ... they have gave me a pair lessons have called me crasy - to my idea - they have said - it is impossible!

After an year of my waisting time near my notebook you can see a result of it ... then I have searched for the CNC-Worker, who want to loose his job makingin a dinner pause ordering other people ... sorry, but this is so ... a pirson have made a 3D-Model, want to realise it in metal, looks for someone - who takeprivate orderings ... because if I ask a CNC firm to make my Girardoni parts it costs like an BOING 747, in this way it was not so expensive - it wasexpensive - because only one part - and for this part was made a programm, and I have said to the worker - the tolerance must be 0,00000001 - or .... BANG-BANG

in 3D ...

L I N K S

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and in steel ...

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to be continued ...

(my big thanks to Grant the Kiwi, who have shown me on his forum all stages of making his replica and who consulted me, he is a very friendly person whohas a very large pation and inspite my bad English has always answered my letters and my questions, he is very good same minde person !)

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My project - Girandoni! 2 October 17 2010, 9:41 AM

Now, the second part of my story I want to show the inside of my work, how I have done the 3D model how I have reproducethe pictures which I have got from internet on one forum (sorry it in Russian) meet youself different people who has aninteress on weapon, making 3d models for games e.g. CS, some of the what to be new Kalashnikov they show there work andwait for discussions some of them looks for the recognition, may be not the world less this forum ... look here (sorry thay Ichange the line of my topic ) ...

http://talks.guns.ru/forummessage/122/697413.html

http://talks.guns.ru/forummessage/122/665180.html http://talks.guns.ru/forummessage/85/695469-0.html

For these models they use this method ...

http://talks.guns.ru/forummessage/122/542215.html [linked image]

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http://talks.guns.ru/forummessage/122/542570.html [linked image]

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I have the same problem a large wish to have 3d model of Girandonis Rifle and the absence of the original, nothing to do ... Istarted to collect the pictures of cause the site of Dr. Beeman was learned by heart from upstairs till downstairs and fromdownstairs till upstairs his schematic of the rifle have helped me very much ... of cause it was great help the pictures arenot very good by magnifiing but they have scale, which I have used by getting dimensions of the rifle parts... look here

http://www.beemans.net/lewis-assault-rifle.htm

...

now I want to show what I have done ...

main view:

receiver

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Yes, you are right It is differ I could not repeat the Beemans Lewis&Clarck Rifle ... my software knowledge is not enohg tomake 1:1 copy it is Girandoni, but another one ...

Plates of cause they are differ from hand made plates they are where in Inventor made, it Software has no so many functionsso it looks machine made without soul ... just a plate

another one

now all together

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Sorry for this axe made trigger guard I hope I can work with a file and give it real form ... (maybe not, who knows)

The lock inside:

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Now, other main parts ... Barrel and CO

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Air tank reservoir

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to be continued ...

(one more time thanks to my teacher and consultant Grant the Kiwi - the great airgun fan and collector from New Zeeland)

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My project - Girandoni! 3 October 17 2010, 12:05 PM

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My project - Girandoni! 4 October 18 2010, 2:30 PM

Today I was by a smith - have clair the task to him, I did not want to go a modern workshop, because the price ... I have askedsome mates where there is a common blacksmith - some monthes ago - I have asked a few modern CNC-firms about makingspare parts for Girandoni ... they have said the minimal quantity must be 50, then in 10 pieces step ... I have posted sometopiks on the forum - and have nobody who wanted take part - I understand it - unkown rifle ... so I wanted save money, andget emprecions - because it is like live TV, you are here and everything makes here, not like you bring in the office, they say -you get your order in a week ... So I was by the normal black smith who repair horse shoos ... he have taken my parts and putin the fire, time to time he have taken it from the fire, he looks on the calour of the metal to know the temperature ... sorry fosuch explaining, but I am not mechaniker - I am a biology teacher ... afterwards he has thrown these parts in special oil ...as he said - now, they are so hard like a flint stone

look here:

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After the harden procces - the part became very dark ...

By us, we say so dark, like in popo of the africaner ... but we have never seen them ... sorry

This young worker, whom I have find on Gunz.RU - he makes two rifles ...

one for me, and one for himself ... I have a lot classmates - who works in my hometown, and they help us ... one of them havehelped us with a bronze, he works at the plant, and we can not find the gun bronze, now we have some ... and so on ... sorryfor this details, but they are part of making the rifle ...

to be continued ...

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