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© 2012 IBM Corporation
Merge the POWER (i) with VMwareJanus HertzSenior IT SpecialistIBM EMEA ETS Center of Competency for Power Systems
Common Europe Conference – Vienna | June 2012
Rev. 09-06-2012
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Agenda
� iSCSI Integrated Servers overview
� Vmware Integration
–Overview
–VMware Architecture
–Release Support
–Planning and Implementation Details
–Conciderations
� Customer examples
� Installation
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IBM i Innovative Technology
IBM i
Host
IBM Power Systems
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IBM i Integration Benefits - Merge the POWER (i) with VMware
� Reuse existing IBM i skills
� Utilize existing Power hardware for virtual storage
–Eliminating the need to buy a dedicated seperate Storage box.
� VMware Server Management (from IBM i)
–Start / Stop of ESX hosts
� VMware Storage Management (from IBM i)
–Creation / Allocation / Shared storage
� Server Availability and reliability
� Easy Backup/Restore
� Efficient Disaster Recovery
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iSCSI - internet SCSI (Small Computer System Interface), SCSI commands sent across a network in TCP/IP packets. It was developed as a storage networking standard for linking data storage facilities
What is iSCSI?
Initiator
Initiator - system making the iSCSI requests for data
Target
Target - system receiving the iSCSI requests for data
Power System
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IBM i Integration with BladeCenter and System x
iSCSI connection between IBM i and BladeCenter System x using
iSCSI HBAs (Host Bus Adapters) or standard ethernet ports.
Standard ethernet cables and switches (gigabit).
� IBM i 6.1 enables iSCSI Software Initiators
� IBM i 7.1 enables iSCSI Software Targets
IBM i
IBM i
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Software Target Support
In an IBM i 6.1 (and previous releases) Integrated Server Environment the customer
is limited to an environment containing physical iSCSI Target HBAs with 1GB
connectivity.
In IBM i 7.1, we have implemented the new software target solution you can use
dedicated 1GB or 10GB Ethernet ports for iSCSI connectivity.
IBM i
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Software Target Details
Target Side• No Target iSCSI HBA required• Use dedicated Ethernet adapters/ports
• can be either 1 Gb or 10 Gb• NWSH points to virtual device• Can mix hardware and software Targets
Initiator Side• No Initiator iSCSI HBA required*• Use dedicated Ethernet adapters/ports
• can be either 1 Gb or 10 Gb• Can mix hardware and software initiators
Dedicated 1Gb or 10Gb connections
Advantages• Enable support in POWER7 (no iSCSI HBA support)• Can get to 10 Gb infrastructure• Reduce cost of solution• No specialized hardware required
* Supported on certain models, see supported hardware list
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Software Initiator Configuration Considerations
� Microsoft iSCSI Initiator Service is required for every server that requires more
than one session
– Initiator code must be downloaded from Microsoft for Windows Server 2003
� Ensure the latest BIOS/Firmware is installed for both the server and network
adapters (NIC)
� Enable software initiator as the boot device in the BIOS/UEFI setup menu
� Software Initiator must be used with VMware ESXi5 servers
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VMware on BladeCenter and System x Integrated with IBM i
�VMware ESX is a leading
virtualization solution for x86
servers– Virtualization supports multiple
Windows, Linux, and Netware
environments on a single server
– Enables the reduction of the number of
physical servers
� IBM i integration with BladeCenter
and System x via iSCSI supports
VMware ESX– IBM i provides virtual storage support
for VMware ESX servers
– Extends the value of advanced IBM i
storage management
IBM System i
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/i/bladecenter/
Power System
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VMware VMotion Enabled by Shared Storage
Running onBlade1ESX1
Running on
Blade2
• Enabled by share links to storage spaces between NWSDs (ESX1 and ESX2)
• Enables VMware VMotion, HA and DRS functions
•Available on IBM i 6.1 and later
ESX2
VM1 VM2 VM3 VM4
ESX1ESX2VM1
VM2VM3VM4
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VMware ESX Architecture – “Classic”
� Virtual machines run on VMkernel
� Management agents run in Service Console
VM VMVM
DistributedVM File System
Device Drivers
Storage Stack
Virtual NIC &Switch
Network Stack
VM
VMM VMMVMM VMM
VMX VMX VMX
VMkernel
User mode API (POSIX subset)
ResourceScheduling
Service
Console
hostd
3rd party
agents
vpxa
VMX
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VMware ESX Architecture – “Classic”
VMkernel
– Resource scheduling and I/O stacks
VMkernel native applications
– Virtual machines (VMM & VMX)
– Authentication daemon
Service Console
– Bootstrap
– VMware and 3rd party agents
– 3rd party software
– Direct administration
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VMware ESXi Architecture
� Hostd & vpxa run on VMkernel
� 3rd party agents run as plug-ins in a CIM framework
� Direct Console User Interface (DCUI) for simple direct administration
runs on VMkernel
VM VMVM
DistributedVM File System
Device Drivers
Storage Stack
Virtual NIC &Switch
Network Stack
VM
VMM VMMVMM VMM
VMX VMX VMX
VMkernel
User mode API (fuller POSIX subset)
ResourceScheduling
hostd
vpxa
VMX
SFCB
CIM broker
3rd party
CIM plugins
DCUI
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VMware ESXi Architecture
� VMkernel
– Resource scheduling and I/O stacks
– Bootstrap
� VMkernel native applications
– Virtual machines (VMM & VMX)
– Authentication daemon
–Direct Console User Interface (DCUI), can be locked
down
– VMware agents
– 3rd party agents as CIM providers inside CIM
framework
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Main Differences – ESX / ESXi
VMware ESXi VMware ESX
On-disk Footprint ESXi 3.5 = 32 MB
ESXi 4.x = ~ 70 MB
ESXi 5.0 = 144 MB
ESX 3.5 = 2GB
ESX 4.x = biggerL
Bootstrap Direct from bootloader Service Console driven
Direct Management
Interaction
DCUI Service Console shell session
OEMs Agents CIM plug-in modules Full stacks in Service Console
Other Agents Implemented via VI SDK only Full stacks in Service Console
Scripts, automation and
troubleshooting
DCUI, Remote CLI, and VI
SDK
Shell and VI SDK
Other software Moved to outside environment Resident in Service Console
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IBM i 7.1 Enhancements – VMware Support Changes
Support for VMware vSphere in IBM i 7.1
• VMware ESXi server management
The IBM i Integrated Server Support software does not run directly on the VMware ESX server.Instead, an iSCSI attached integrated Windows server serves as a management server for the VMware ESX server.An integrated Windows server can serve as the management server for any number of integrated VMware ESX servers within the same IBM i logical partition.At least one integrated Windows server is required in each IBM i logical partition that hosts integrated VMware ESX servers.
For details please see: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v7r1m0/index.jsp?topic=/rzahq/managingintegratedesxservers.htm
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VMware vSphere 5 Support
VMware vSphere 5 offers two versions of ESXi 5 server versions:
• ESXi 5 Installable:• This version is installed on disk.• It contains a VMware Kernel which is the hypervisor that
hosts guest operating systems.• It does not contain a Console OS (COS).
• ESXi 5 Embedded:• This version is embedded on USB flash.• It contains a VMware Kernel which is the hypervisor that
hosts guest operating systems.• It does not contain a COS.
VMware GA – August 2011IBM i Support – August 2011!Requires IBM i Group PTF SF99369 Level 8
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VMware vSphere 4 Support
VMware vSphere 4 offers three versions of ESX 4 server versions:
• ESX 4:• This version is installed on disk.• It contains a Console Operating System (COS) based on Red Hat
Enterprise and a VMware Kernel which is the hypervisor that hosts guest operating systems.
• ESXi 4 Installable:• This version is installed on disk.• It contains a VMware Kernel which is the hypervisor that hosts
guest operating systems.• It does not contain a COS.
• ESXi 4 Embedded:• This version is embedded on USB flash.• It contains a VMware Kernel which is the hypervisor that hosts
guest operating systems.• It does not contain a COS.
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IBM i 6.1 & 7.1 VMware vSphere 4 and 5 Support
HWI
System x
HWI
Blades
SWI
System x
SWI
Blades
ESX 4 Yes Yes No No
ESXi4.x Yes Yes Yes Yes
ESXi5 No No Yes Yes
HWI - Hardware Initiator
SWI - Software Initiator
Notes:• HWI - not all versions of HWI supported, see:
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/i/advantages/integratedserver/iscsi/solution_guide.html• SWI - only supported on certain System x and Blades models see:
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/i/advantages/integratedserver/iscsi/solution_guide.html
ESX Server Management server is always required on 7.1
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Service Console infrastructure
IBM i onIBM i
Startup and shutdown commands sent from IBM i to VMware Console of iSCSI attached ESX server
iSCSI
VMware ESXServer
COS
VMware ESXServer
COS
Dynamic linking of storage is allowed but requires manual intervention in order for ESX server to recognize new storage.
ESX 3.x and 4.x servers on i 5.4 and i 6.1
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Management Server infrastructure
VMware ESXiServerInstallable
IBM i onIBM i
ManagementServer(Windows)
Virtual EthernetPoint to Point
iSCSI
Startup, shutdown, and dynamic linking commands are sent from IBM i to iSCSI attached Management Server
iSCSI
ESX4 and ESXi4 and later servers on i 6.1 and i 7.1
Dynamic linking of storage automatically recognized by ESXi server
VMware ESXiServerEmbedded
Memory Stick
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Management Server infrastructure with platform manager
VMware ESXiServerInstallable
IBM i onIBM i
ManagementServer(Windows)
Virtual EthernetPoint to Point
iSCSI
Startup, shutdown, and dynamic storage linking commands are sent from IBM i to iSCSI attached Management Server to ESX Platform Manager (such as VMware vCenter Server)
iSCSI
ESX PlatformManager
Phys Eth
iSCSI (Optional)
Dynamic linking of storage automatically recognized by ESXi server
VMware ESXiServerEmbedded
Memory Stick
ESX4 and ESXi4.x servers on i 6.1 and i 7.1ESXi5 servers on i 7.1
Can be one server
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Save while active support for VMware Storage Space
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• IBM i Integrated Server Support is enhanced to provide save while active (SWA) support for integrated VMware ESX servers.
• Storage spaces for VMware ESX servers can be saved from IBM i while the ESX server is active. This allows a concurrent save of ESX data without requiring the ESX server to be shut down or applications ended.
• See the IBM i iSCSI Solution Guide, section 7.8.4 for additional information.
• The following IBM i group PTFs are used to deliver this enhancement:
• IBM I 7.1 Group PTF: SF99369 Level 6 (June 2011)
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First Place to Start for iSCSI on IBM i Solution
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/i/advantages/integratedserver/iscsi/solution_guide.html
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Implementation steps and considerations
� Planning, planning and planning!!
– Use the IBM i iSCSI solution guide!
– And the IBM i iSCSI solution work sheets
� Verify hardware support
– From an intergrated server (IBM i) point of view (Solution Guide):• www-03.ibm.com/systems/i/advantages/integratedserver/iscsi/solution_guide.html
– From a Vmware point of view. Use Vmware Compatebility Guide: • www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php?deviceCategory=server
� Verify software support
– IBM i iSCSI solution guide
– Verify/Install required license programs & group PTF
� Concider iSCSI Multipathing, dual switches.
– Remember to set Vmware multipath appropriatly.• Default is ”fixed path”. All vmware datastores will typically default to same path, even if
two paths are present. Change to ”Round-Robin” or manually assign alternating paths
for Datastores..
� Concider iSCSI virtual storage I/O memory pool
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Implementation steps and considerations – cont.
� Migration of Vmware environment needed when moving from IBM 5.4 to 6.1
and 6.1 to 7.1
– See IBM i iSCSI solution guide
� Migration also needed if moving from ESX to ESXi
– See IBM i iSCSI solution guide
� Consult the ”Performance Capability Reference Guide”
– Chapter 17 ”Integrated BladeCenter and System x Performance”
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Performance Capabilities Reference Guide
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/i/advantages/perfmgmt/resource.html
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PTFs
� Before installing an integrated server, load all of the following required PTFs:
� Note: Use the IBM i WRKPTFGRP command to verify that you have the latest level of the group PTF
installed.
� Action required: The group PTF for your IBM i release contains a service pack PTF for the IBM i Integrated
Server Support code that runs on the integrated Windows or VMware ESX server.
After installing the group PTF, you need to install the service pack from IBM i to each Windows or VMware
ESX Server. See the Installing IBM i integration service packs section of the IBM i iSCSI Solution Guide
for service pack installation instructions.
� Reference:
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/wikis/home?lang=en#/wiki/Waededb4f351a_47fd_b2dc_61f672cfcc7f/page/IBM
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New Shared Memory Pool for iSCSI I/O
• Replaces private pool QFPHIS used in V5R4• Can use any of the Shared xx pools• Specify the Shared xx in NWSD for i5/OS to use shared pool for that NWSD
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Vmware patching
� Remember to update your Vmware software to latest patch level as well (within the
same ESX(i) version, ie.4.0, 4.1 or 5.0)
� Recommend using Vmware update manager.
� Surgest updating your Vmware patchlevel with same frequence as with PTFs.
� http://www.vmware.com/patchmgr/download.portal
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IBM i 7.1 Enhancements – INSINTSVR Command • New install command for Windows Server 2008, ESX4, and ESXi v4 / v5 servers L less parameters!• Replacement for the old INSWNTSVR command from previous releases• Automatically creates some objects if not on the system
• Connection Security object
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Create Server Install Wizard
Systems Director Navigator for i
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Installing and Configuring the Management Server
� Management Server is a Windows service on Windows Server 2003 or 2008
� Install service using ibmvmins command in C:\Windows\as400wsv\ESX
� Configure using ibmvmcon from the same directory– Specify NWSD name
– Specify IP address of the VMware host (server)
– Specify IP address of the VMware Platform Manager if it exists
� Run commands from user QVMWINT (need administrator privileges)
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Network Server Status
� Status will be Active on WRKNWSSTS if IBM i is communicating with Management Server
� Status with be CNNPND if Admin Server job is running on IBM i but it’s not communicating with the Management Server
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VMware Power Down Configuration Tip
� Default Shutdown Delay for VMs is 2 minutes meaning a vary off will cause the
VMware server to wait for 2 minutes before powering down VMs
� Recommend changing to 0 seconds
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Debug Logs
� Several logs available on the Integrated Server drive on the Management
Server (usually the D: drive)
–ibmvmadm – admin monitor job log
–ibmvmcon – configuration task log
–ibmvmins – server install log
–ibmvmtsk – server task log
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HT Bendix A/S, Denmark
First integrated VMware ESX 4 installation in Nordic on IBM i 7.1!
• 1 IBM i 7.1 host LPAR – running various applications
• 2 iSCSI attached System x 3650 M3 running VMware ESX 4, for consolidation of a number of older physical Windows Servers and an existing standalone VMware ESX 3.5 server.• 1 iSCSI attached System x 3550 M3 running Windows Server 2008 R2, and acting as administration server for the VMware server.
iSCSI integrated ServersPower Virtualization
www.htbendix.dkIBM System i520
2 * IBM System x3550
IBM System x3650
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Haribo Lakrids A/S, Denmarkwww.haribo.com
• Candy manufacture
• 1 System i 525 (2 way Power6)• 1 System x 3850 (ESX4)• 2 System x 3850 M2 (ESX4)• 1 System x3550 M2 (vCenter)
• 1 IBM i 6.1 host LPAR – running RPG applications• 3 iSCSI attached System x 3850 (M2) running VMware ESX 4
• More than 30 virtual machines• Approx. 3 TB VMs• Including 2 old IXS Windows Servers migrated with VMware Converter from old i810. • VMotion, HA, MPIO
iSCSI integrated ServersPower Virtualization
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Backup slides
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Service Processor Manager (SPM)
In IBM i 7.1 Service Processor Manager (SPM) is a build in function of IBM i.
The SPM functionality has been PTF’ed into IBM i 6.1
Before IBM i 7.1
– In previous releases the customer had the option to either use Service
Processor Manager or IBM Director (5722-DR1) for integrated server
management connections and power control.
Enhancement
– IBM Director (5722-DR1) is no longer used for server management
connections or power control. This reduces the software requirement for the
Integrated Server solution by no longer requiring 5722-DR1 to be installed
on the IBM i.
� NOTE: The newer System x server models require SPM because they use a newer service
processor called an imbedded management module (IMM).
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IBM Systems Director Navigator for IBM i
• Moving iNav functions to the new web console
• Point browser to URL: http://systemname:2001/
• All GUI function that was in iNav is there
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Web GUI Updates - Create Server
� Creating a server in an IBM i Integrated Server IBM i Integration with BladeCenter and System x
environment has never been easier. Use IBM Systems Director Navigator for i Web GUI to walk
you through a server installation.
� In release IBM i 7.1, supported Operating Systems include:
– Windows Server 2008 and Windows Server 2003 Server editions.
– VMware ESX 4.x
– VMware ESXi 4.x & 5.0
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Web GUI Updates - Delete Server
When a server is not active or starting, an
option to delete the server is now available.
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IBM i 7.1 Enhancements – DLTINTSVR Command
New delete server command for integrated servers #
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Cloning Windows Servers
Assuming you have a working Integrated Windows Server:
1. Start the base Windows server and run the sysprep tool
2. Shut down the server
3. From Systems Director Navigator for i, run the cloning wizard to clone the server
• Select Integrated Server Administration -> Create Server and select “Base on existing object” then specify NWSD of server to be cloned and the new server name
• Select the Virtual Storage and Remote System that the server clone will use
4. Change Virtual Ethernet point to point connection if you don’t like default used by cloning wizard
5. Start the server clone and handle licensing requirements, etc.
6. Adjust host name / IP address on Windows if necessary
See Chapter 5 of iSCSI Solution Guide for details
See “i Can” blog at
http://ibmsystemsmag.blogs.com/i_can/2011/06/clone-an-integrated-windows-server.html
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10Gb Connectivity
Target Side• Dedicated 10Gb Ethernet adapters required
Initiator Side• Dedicated 10Gb Ethernet adapters required.
Dedicated 10Gb connections
Advantages• 4-6 times faster than 1 Gb• standard 10Gb adapters
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NWSCFGRMTSYSThe Initiator
System x or BladesiSCSI HBA Port Configuration
IBM iSystem x or Blade
IBM i Integrated Server – Object Model (Physical Target HBA)
NWSHThe Target Device
NWSCFGSRVPRCRemote powercontrol management
iSCSI HBA
ServiceProcessor
iSCSI HBA /Ethernet NIC
I5/OS
Hardware
Storage Path
Remote System
Server
NWSSTGStorage Space(Virtual Disk)
NWSDThe Storage-Server Link
NWSCFGCNNSECThe Link Security
Switch
Ethernet
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NWSCFGRMTSYSThe Initiator
System x or BladesiSCSI HBA Port Configuration
IBM iSystem x or Blade
IBM i Integrated Server – Object Model (Software Target)
VirtualNWSH+ LINDThe Target Device
NWSCFGSRVPRCRemote powercontrol management
Ethernet NIC
ServiceProcessor
iSCSI HBA /Ethernet NIC
I5/OS
Hardware
Storage Path
Remote System
Server
NWSSTGStorage Space(Virtual Disk)
NWSDThe Storage-Server Link
NWSCFGCNNSECThe Link Security
Switch
Ethernet
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Performance is in Internal Throughput Rate (ITR) ratio based on measurements and projections using standard IBM benchmarks in a controlled environment. The actual throughput that any user will experience will vary depending upon considerations such as the amount of multiprogramming in the user's job stream, the I/O configuration, the storage configuration, and the workload processed. Therefore, no assurance can be given that an individual user will achieve throughput improvements equivalent to the performance ratios stated here.
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