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NFPA 72 Supervising Station Fire Alarm Systems SIG-SSS Chapter 26

SSS FD Meeting June 24, 25, & 26, 2013 St. Louis, MO

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Minutes Prepared by: Tony Mucci Tyco Integrated Security

1501 Yamato Rd Boca Raton, FL 33431

Meeting Minutes Technical Committee on

Supervising Station Fire Alarm Systems SIG-SSS First Draft Meeting

June 24, 25, & 26, 2013 St Louis, MO

Day 1 – Monday June 24, 2013 Meeting called to order at 8:08AM Monday June 24, 2013 by Warren Olsen. Introductions: Members, alternates, and guests introduced themselves. Committee approved the meeting Agenda and the meeting minutes for ROC Oct 12 & 13, 2011 Richmond, VA, and Nov 17, 2011 teleconference. NFPA Staff Remarks: Lee Richardson - Reviewed FD participation and rules for principals and alternates. - Attendance sheet was passed around with request to review contact info for correctness. - Safety review for the event of a fire or fire drill. - All upcoming dates for cycle were presented. Dates can be found on NFPA.org. - Covered Robert’s Rules of Order and a review of the meeting process and rules - Overview of the “New Process”, change in terms, First Draft voting, - Covered Anti Trust and Legal requirements and rules - Information can be found on the NFPA Document Information Page www.nfpa.org/72 - Slide presentation “Working in the New Process” that compares the new to old with using

4 examples with the TerraView system. The TerraView pages will be available from the online Document Information pages during Public Input period (PI), TC Ballot time, and when appropriate as controlled by NFPA.

- Reviewed the Strategy to improve Correlation to improve process efficiency. - Reviewed Assignment of TC Responsibility for items in chapters other than SSS that we

affect. - The final First Draft after committee balloting will be posted March 7, 2014 Break 9:15 – 9:30 AM Task Group Reports: - none Industry Round Table: AFAA – none NEMA – none



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CSAA – Lou Fiore presented slides. Working to reopen and revise standards for Enhanced Called Verification and CO response, currently working on a video standard that introduces “Video Only” Central Station. (Slide presentation attached) AICC – Lou Fiore presented slides about the AICC (part of CSAA), and what they do, and the member list. Discussed some of the activities, including; 2G Sunset, FirstNet (D-Block 10MHz for first responders), Progeny location service interference with 902 to 928 MHz alarm wireless sensors, Nationwide Monitoring License Bill, and NG911 issues for device/detector notification directly to emergency responders. Verizon and Sprint will be presenting at upcoming meetings. (Slide presentation attached) ESA – none FM – none ETL – none UL – Steve Schmit: UL 827 is out for review and revision FSSA – none IMSA – none Chair remarks: No additional remarks. Begin proceedings to process 71 Public Inputs using TerraView. Review of Public Input began 10:00AM Break 11:15 AM to 11:30 AM - Public Input No. 97 ; Resolution to be moved to the Correlating Committee Lunch 12:20 AM to 1:40 PM Break 2:30 PM to 2:40 PM Break 3:50 PM to 4:00 PM Two Task Groups were assigned to resolve and propose a Committee Input (CI) - Individual point, zone, and grouped identification - 5 Public Inputs for alarm pre verification Day 1 recessed at 5:08 PM to reconvene tomorrow 6/25/13 at 7:30AM. Day 2 – Thursday June 25, 2013 Meeting called to order at 7:30 AM Tuesday June 25, 2013 by Chairman Olsen. Meeting resumed with Task Group reports. - Individual point, zone, and grouped identification - 5 Public Inputs for alarm pre verification



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Break 8:40 to 8:50 AM Continued with Task Group reports Task Group Reports concluded 9:20 AM - Individual point, zone, and grouped identification - CI created with committee consensus - 5 Public Inputs for alarm pre verification – FR created with committee consensus Resumed review of Public Input 9:20 AM Break 10:00 AM to 10:10 AM Lunch 12:20 AM to 1:30PM Break 2:35 PM to 2:50PM Break 4:15 PM to 4:25 PM - A task group will be assigned to address the FRs for Pre-Verification, Verification, and

the maximum time allowance for each. Work will begin outside of this FD meeting and will be completed in advance of the SD meeting middle of next year.

Day 2 recessed at 6:30 PM to reconvene tomorrow 6/26/13 at 7:30 AM. Day 3 – Wednesday June 26, 2013 Meeting called to order at 7:30 AM June 26, 2013 by Chairman Olsen. - Warren Olsen stepped down as Chair so that he could participate in the review and

discussion for Remote Station Municipal and Remote Station Public covered by PI #150, 151, 152, 153, and 172. Donald Panell substituted as Chair.

Break 8:55 AM to 9:05AM - Resumed discussion with PIs 150, 151, 152, 153, 172 for Remote Station Municipal and

Remote Station Public. A motion and second was made to resolve all these PIs by dismissing them because they do not provide indented clarity. A vote was taken with a majority agreeing with the motion. Bob Boyer requested to be noticed in the minutes as abstaining from the vote.

- A motion with a second was made to add a new paragraph under Remote Station

Systems Facilities to include alarm, supervisory, and trouble signals shall be permitted to be received at a Listed Central Station. A vote was taken with 10 in favor and 9 opposed. Bob Boyer and Steve Schmit requested to be noticed in the minutes as abstaining from the vote.

9:35 AM - Donald Panell substitute Chair stepped down and Warren Olsen returned as Chair. - Review resumed with next PI.



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- A task group will be assigned to address PI #8 for retransmission using the ASAP-to-

PSAP service. The PI as written addresses only Remote Station, but PSAP is intended to be used with all service types that notify the communication center (PSAP). A motion and second was made to resolve the PI by dismissing it. CI # 39 was created as a place holder for a task group to be assembled to resolve the CI outside of this FD meeting. Work will begin outside of this FD meeting and will be completed in advance of the SD meeting middle of next year.

Break 10:05 AM to 10:15 AM - The Committee reviewed definitions provided by Jack McNamara, the committee decided

to keep our definitions as is. - The committee reviewed reference documents for correct edition numbers and dates. The

committee agreed that we could handle changes at the SD meeting mid next year. UL will present the changes that exist at that time IN UL documents as part of the meeting’s Industry Round Table review.

NEW BUSINESS: none OLD BUSINESS: none Meeting adjourned at 10:48 AM Wednesday June 26, 2013 Attachments: CSAA & AICC Industry Round Table Report (.pptx) Attendance List Respectfully Submitted, Tony Mucci Tyco Integrated Security, LLC

ATTENDANCE LIST FD June 24, 25, & 26, St Louis, MO

Attended Name Organization Status

x Lee Richardson NFPA Staff x Olsen, Warren IL Fire Inspectors Association Chair Aus, Geoffrey Menlo Park Fire Protection Dist. P x Bigelow, Raymond Town of Needham, MA FD / IMSA P x Black, Art Carmel FD P x Blanken, David Keltron Corp. P x Bonifas, Edward Alarm Detection Systems P x Boyer, J. UTC / Edwards / NEMA P x Brown, Thomas The RJA Group, Inc P x Buckley, Robert Signal Communications P x Carroll, Paul Central Signal Corp . P Connaughton, Thomas Intertek Testing Services P x Coveny, Lawrence Chicago Metro Fire Prevention Co P x Crews, James Fireman’s Fund Insurance Co P x Egan, Patrick Select Security P x Elliott, Bob FM Approvals P x Fiore, Lou L.T. Fiore, Inc P Hu, Xianxu Insurance Services Office, Inc. P x Kleinman, Richard AFA Protective Systems P Monaco, Eugene Monaco Enterprises P x Mucci, Tony Tyco Integrated Security P x Pannell, Donald Memphis Fire Department P x Papier, Isaac Honeywell Life Safety P x Schmit, Steve UL P x Silva, Paul CSAA P x Titus, Sean Fike Corporation / FSSA P x Vaughn, Allyn JBA Consultants P Aiken, Douglas International Municipal Signal Associates A x Betz, Jeffrey AT&T Corp A (Voting) x Dwyer, William Germantown Fire Department A Farraher, Martin Fire Supression Systems A Gagliardi, Cheryl FM Approvals A x Hope, Gordon Honeywell Inc. A

Johnson, Michael The RJA Group, Inc. A x Lowery, Kenneth Insurance Services Office, Inc. A x Mann, Larry Central Station Inc. / AFAA A x May, Scott Bosch Security Systems / NEMA A Miesch, Arnold Intertek A Mitchell, Robert Bay Alarm / CSAA A x Olson, Paul UL A x Reiswig, Rodger Tyco/Simplex Grinnell A Sargetnt, Steven Keltron A

Scholes, Robert Fireman’s Fund Insurance A Tokarz, Frank Monaco Enterprises A

Guests

x McCarver, Randall Telcordia Technologies G x Rauter, Steve Wescom 9-1-1 G

NFPA 72NFPA 72First Draft MeetingCSAA & AICC Report

June 24, 2013June 24, 2013St Louis, MO

T iTopics

• CSAA Standards

• AICC ActivityGSM “S t”GSM “Sunset”

CSAA Standards ActivityCSAA Standards Activity

Standards Under RevisionStandards Under Revision

ANSI/CS V 01 2008• ANSI/CS-V-01-2008

codifies Enhanced Call Verification

mentions the use of Audio and Video Verification

• ANSI/CS CO 01 200x• ANSI/CS-CO-01-200x

carbon Dioxide

Reopen CS-V-01Reopen CS V 01

• to add additional types of video

• to add a methodology to allow for listing of “Video Only” Central Stations

AICC MembersAES Intellinet

CSAA

ESA

SIA

AES Intellinet

Alarm.com

Axesstel, Inc.

Axis Communications

BoschSIA

ADT

AFA Protective Systems

Alarm Detection

Bosch

DMP

DSC

Encore NetworksAlarm Detection

ASG Security

Bay Alarm

COPS Monitoring

DGA S it

Honeywell

Interlogix

Inovonics

Linear CorpDGA Security

Security Network of America

Security Networks

Select Security

LogicMark

Napco Security

Numerex (Uplink)

RSI-VideofiedTyco Integrated Security

United Central Control

Universal Atlantic Systems

Vector Security

Telular

Tyco Security Products

Wyless, Inc.

Vivint FM Approvals

Intertek Testing

Underwriters Laboratories

Major Topics

The 2G Sunset and FirstNet

Progeny: 902 to 928 MHz interferenceProgeny: 902 to 928 MHz interferenceDebaters: NextNav v Part 15 CoalitionInterference to short range devices: Innovonics, DMP,

RSI-Videofied, LogicMark, Z-Wave, Zigbeeg g

Nationwide Monitoring License Bill passage into Law

Co-Chairs Jim McMullen and Pat Egan

Verizon Wireless to present at our next meeting

S i t t t t D b tiSprint to present at our December meeting

Devote more time to our FirstNet interests

NG911 Issues

GSM Sunset … Less Than 4 Years Away

• an incredible challenge facing the alarm industry: on Jan 1, 2017 AT&T will shut down their 2G GSM/GPRS cellular2017, AT&T will shut down their 2G GSM/GPRS cellular network.

• This requires replacing an estimated 4 to 5 million GSM alarm d i b f 2G GSM i i d d th d dlidevices before 2G GSM service is removed—and the deadline is now less than four years away!

• Many alarm companies have started dealing with the replacement, but others have not yet begun to address this issue.

Mobile Data Traffic Growth

What Does The Future Hold?• We have experienced one technology sunset recently (the

AMPS Sunset in 2008) and will undergo another one soon (the 2G GSM Sunset in 2016).2G GSM Sunset in 2016).

• Even other current cellular technologies are likely to change in time – 3G HSPA will work through the end of this decade at least and 2G CDMA will exist to the early years of the nextleast, and 2G CDMA will exist to the early years of the next decade.

• Once fully deployed, LTE will last a long time, but we should h hi i i h C inot assume that this is permanent either. Carriers must

continue to enhance performance. For example, in time, LTE will be followed by a new standard currently in development, ll d LTE Ad dcalled LTE Advanced.

The real story – 2G (GPRS/1XRTT)y ( )

2016 sunset really means starting now and gone by end 20162016 sunset really means starting now and gone by end 2016

Guaranteed allocation of 25%-30% of 1900 Spectrum for 2G through end 2017 earliest but projecting no sunset date as of yet (safe to assume 2020 earliest)

Commitment for 1xRTT through 2019 anecdotallyCommitment for 1xRTT through 2019, anecdotally

No sunset for 1xRTT, saying ‘Network Vision’ will extend 1xRTT “indefinitely”

ALL 4 major operators each cover >300 million POPs with 2G

The real story – 3G (EVDO/HSPA)y ( )

No commitment for HSPA longevity but expected through 2020No commitment for HSPA longevity but expected through 2020

HSPA longevity committed through 2020

EVDO longevity committed till 2019

No sunset for EVDO, saying ‘Network Vision’ will extend EVDO “indefinitely”

The real story – 4G LTEy

237 markets deployed covering 288 Million People237 markets deployed covering 288 Million People

LTE Advanced (10), fastest LTE available, but not fully deployed till mid ’14200 Million POPs by EOY

Most aggressive LTE Deployment yet, fully deployed at “every EVDO Tower” by end ’13, >90% of US POPs by EOY

LTE Rev 10, fastest LTE available, but not fully deployed till end ‘14

FirstNetFirstNet

New Band Plan - Adopted by FCC on July 31, 2007

746 763 768 769 772 775 776 793 798 799 802 805 806

D5

PSBB5

A1

C11

B1

60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69

B1

C11

A1

GB1

PSNB6

PSNB6

GB1

PSBB5

D5

746 763 768 769 772 775 776 793 798 799 802 805 806

Single NationwidePublic Safety Broadband License

(Licensed to the Public Safety Spectrum Trust)

60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69

Allocated to the Nationwide PSBLBy Congressional Action

Advantages to Alarm SystemsAdvantages to Alarm Systems

• PriorityPriority

• Negotiated rates probably lower than on• Negotiated rates probably lower than on the public networks

• Hardened Network

• Longevity of Technology

M-MLSM MLS

The Location and Monitoring Service (LMS) is a locationing technology optimized for use in urban environments and in buildings, where other technologies, such as GPS, may not work well or at all. Two different types of LMS are defined:

Multilateration LMS (M-LMS) and non-multilateration LMS. The respective FCC definitions are: Multilateration LMS system: A system that is designed to locate vehicles or other objects by measuring the difference of time of arrival, or j y g ,difference in phase, of signals transmitted from a unit to a number of fixed points or from a number of fixed points to the unit to be located.

Non-multilateration LMS System. A system that employs any of a number of non-multilateration technologies to transmit information to and/or from vehicular units. LMS shares the band with a variety of users.

MultilaterationMultilateration

A navigation technique based on theA navigation technique based on the measurement of the difference in distance to two or more stations at known locations thattwo or more stations at known locations that broadcast signals at known times.

CSRIC

The Communications Security, Reliability and Interoperability y y

Council

Progeny Test ResultsProgeny Test Results

AICC will be collecting interference information allegedl ca sed binformation allegedly caused by Progeny from industry and g y yforwarding this information to the FCCFCC.

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