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whole thing was all the great letterswe got from all over the country. We'dlike to encourage you by printing asmany responses as possible, includingscene reports from around the world (as'many as room permits). Keep it up, butkeep it brief.

As "successful" as that issue was,personal gratification doesn't compen-sate for all the fucked-up situationswe are trying to change by our cover-age. Whether it's the continuing dete-rioration of human values in the world,or the effects of that cancer on theburgeoning punk scene, these mattersfar overshadow our meager gains. It'sa good start, and it's always importantto gather together one's hope and opti-mism, advancing an inch here or there.But we. won' t be happy till the world issafe for intelligence and love, till themorons are on the run.

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NOTING THAT MANY OF US HAVE LISTED HIGHLYTHE FAX RNR LP"NOT 30 QUIET..", I SHOULD.2NTI0N THAT WE HAVE NO FINANCIAL INTERESTIN IT. PRECISELY SO WE COULD PROMOTE IT ASTHE r.REAT RECORD IT IS, WITHOUT A CONFLICTOF INTEREST. TY

LETTERSBlack Humor- ReactionaryDear MRR: ,

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I am questioning your reasons forreviewing the BLACK HUMOR LP.When I listened to it, I was com-

pletely surprised by the lyrics.This is black humor? Come on. I rea-lize some people get off on so-called "gallows humor", but what'sthe point of a record like this whenthere are so many really Importantsubjects that need to be discussedwith song lyrics?

"Hometown Vigilante" comes acrossas an invitation to go out and shootanyone you might not like.

"Zebra Killers" is blatantly rac-ist with its jungle tribal sounds.So the original Zebra Killers (thepress-hype name for the group, bythe way, and never the name used bythem) were racists; must we be thesame in return?

"Kill Them" [has] something to of-fend everyone. Starting with "killall these little kids that just gottheir Oead Kennedys album forChristmas from Mom and Dad and byNew Year's they're stone cold hard-core punks", it gets worse fromthere, to the point of nausea.

"Au wledersehn Judea" (GoodbyeJew), the most antisemetic diatribeI've ever heard.

I can't go on. I'm not sure I wantyou to print this [since] I don'twant to give BLACK HUMOR any morepublicity. Tom Mallon should beashamed for recording this in hisstudio.

I should have known by the recordlabel of a swastica made of crutchesthat this was, not for me. Who areOan House and" George Miller who putthis bile together?Hooray! for bands like DKs, MOC,

HUSKER OU, TOXIC REASONS, CRASS andall the bands on their label.

A. MorganS.F.

Black Humor? BrilliantTo A. Morgan and others,

When you buy a BLACK HUMOR album,there are liner notes Inside. Ithink that these should be read be-fore any decision is made. They out-line their intentions song by song,not unlike your letter. But let usconsider.

"Hometown Vigilante" is about aplace where one member of BLACKHUMOR grew up^ (as liner notesstate). I seriously doubt that if hebelieved in what those people standfor, he'd be here writing parodiesof them.

"Zebra Killers" has no lyrics. Itis a collage of African tribalmusic. Personally, I really enjoy alot of types of music, African beingone. Do you think that they arereally being malicious? Do you thinkthat if they were truly racist theywould make such a lovely piece basedon traditional black music? They dotalk about the Zebra Killings brief-ly in the liner notes. They dedicatethe piece to the insanity of thewhole event. Using such an ethnicpiece brings out the racism and sad-ness of the Zebra killings.

Now we get to the meat of BLACKHUMOR, yah, gallows humor. In mymind, thought-provoking humor like"Kill Them" is masterful. They layervoices and run through every derogo-tory buzz word imaginable - terriblewords. They throw In combinations of

LETTERSthese words to bring out their ab-surdity, like, "Black Cuban Fags."Then to prove that, if we're goingto hate or kill them, we better alsokill "people in condos", "buildingmanagers", "little old ladies withwalkers", "fucking punk rockers".That line in the beginning about thekids with their first DKs recordmakes a sham of all those jadedpunks who ramble on about the firstNuns show and how all these youngerpunks are so ignorant. This songisn't bigoted. This song displayshow rampant and silly bigotry is.What sets this song apart from POI-SON GIRL's "Persons Unknown"?Aufweidersehn Juden", upon lis-

tening, has only a couple of distin-guishable lyrics. You and I mightnot agree with the liner notes butthey do explain themselves: It isn'tanti-semitism. It is an emotionalappeal to shed guilt for a moment inhistory when we weren't even alive.I don't agree that we should forgetit, but there is no difference bet-ween this sentiment and NOH MERCY's"Caucasion Guilt", i.e., I'm notstupid and I don't want to take res-ponsibility for the stupidity ofthose before me.

"Too Stupid To Die" is about abird that got hit by a truck.

I too could go on. I am obviouslya fan, but I think that you areoverreacting and taking a super-ficial view of the symbolism here.Which is why I won't even attempt toanalyse the twisted swastika made ofcrutches (one friend told me it mean"Nazis are lame"). Their most visi-ble logo (which is on the cover orinside those hand-designed mon-strosities) is a collage of Reaganholding a cross in front of an Amer-ican flag whose stars are swasticas.This is one of the most strikinganti-fascist Images around.

I still contend that Black Humorare brilliant.

Ruth Schwartz

iron crosf*Dear MRR:

This is an apology and an expla-nation. The apology goes to IRONCROSS. In the space of two or threeparagraphs (MINOR THREAT interview,MRR #1), I severely damaged theirreputation with my poorly-chosenwords. What I said was true, but itwas said out of context, and irres-ponsibly .

IRON CROSS has been together for 11/2 years, and that entire time theyhave been trying to outrun the Nazilabel tagged to them because of thealignment with the U.K. skinheadmovement. Instead of taking advan-tage of a nationwide interview tohelp clear up that misconception, Iput a few more nails in their coffinwith my stupid mouth.

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LETTERSLike I said in the Interview, It's

a very 'touchy subject". In a feebleeffort to put forth the facts sur-rounding tne band, I got crossed-upor shut-up or whatever, and nevergot to the punchline.

The punchline is: I like IRONCROSS and I do not think they areNazi or fascist band. Period.

If you have a problem witn thatwrite me at Dischord or IRON CROSSat -2706 N. Forth, Arlington, VA22201 and find out for yourselves-

Rastafonies

Ian MarKaye

Dear MRR:Great magazine and great MDC in-

terview! I am glad that others arebeginning to speak out about the bo-gus, discriminatory attitudes of theBAD BRAINS and other bands likethem. When they were is Tucson, Icouldn't overlook the clash betweentheir 'love everybody' message andtheir homophobic, racist, mysogynist'born-again' attitude. Everyone downhere told me (in effect) to go burna bra, that I was taking them tooseriously and besides, who was I toquestion these rock gods? This allsmacked of the very rock establish-ment we're all so disdainful of. Itake this very seriously. Here arethese guys undermining all that I amas a person and I'm supposed to go'haha' and buy their fucking rec-ords! I'm glad MDC isn't selling outto the good old American dream. Af-ter all, isn't what the Bad Brainsare saying the same old shit in apunky wrap?

Nurse K.Tucson, Az.

pA-lways never fimHumans

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...Thanks for the Church Policeinterview. They're a great band(even if they've never sent me thetape I sent away for). A strangething happened at show in WalnutCreek. Tim said, "You know, CircleJerks, AC/DC, they're all the same."After that he was unhip and peoplespat, threw stuff, and flipped himoff in his face. If we aren't open-minded as a group, people oughtacall us short-haired hippies. Timcould've gotten up there and said,"AC/DC sucks, Circle Jerks rule,"and the people would've loved himeven though he was using GeorgeThoroughgood appeal... He has guts...

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"IRON CROSS nas NO political affi-liations, nor do we believe in anyform of Fascism or Nazism"

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PUNK ONDear MRR:

I was curious about that "Punk onIce" article - punk in prison. Thatguy sounds like he's collecting Infofor the CIA or something. Why allthe questions on Marxist Left, theinfluence of fanzines and radio andwhether it's a small handful cf leaderswhat? Wanna zet humped jff? Now thatpunk is big time the governmentagencies must be planning some-thing

. I'm not giving that guy anyinfo.

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The Lone RangerSan Francisco

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LETTERSAnd a good issue it seems too. One

thing an articulate HC medium couldtry to accomplish is to help recog-nize that there are dozens, surehundreds, of non hard core bandsthat share their values and con-cerns, yet are lost to any possiblefraternal cause due to HC's seemingsocial isolationism and rampant in-criminations; factors which para-doxically seem also prime reasonsfor HC movement's very existence.I'm tempted to term a great deal ofhat I see and hear as paranoialaced with xenophobic demagoguery,slmpllstlcally and arbitrarily crea-ting a new clatch of tribal buzz-words formulated on the premise ofIf one is not FOR hard core, thenhe/she is AGAINST hard core, ergoguilty as charged. Frankly, there istoo much of that kind of mentalityaround already, infesting placeslike 1600 Pennsylvania and the like.

LETTERSYour editorial goes a long, long wayIn pointing out the dangers inher-ent-cults of personality and mock-able Reaganistic Individualism mas-querading as "freedom"-and I hopethat MRR can go a long way in help-ing natural allies, alienated by themachinations of contemporary capi-talism, to come to fuller and betterunderstanding.

Bill AspWasp RecordsArlington, Va

MRR,I am glad to see you people have

directly linked politics with punkand have suggested (not commanded)that we take direct action (demon-strating etc.). I've been seeingmore and more sincere, concernedbands coming out and trying to openminds and I've been meeting morepeople at shows trying to do thesame Just by talking with people. A

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small chunk has been taken out ofIgnorance and apathy but we need toAOD a more direct approach. I'm notsuggesting we march through CivicCenter holding hands and singingpeace songs and I'm not suggestingwe riot. What I am saying is thatthose concerned need to unite so asto decide what type of action istaken. We draw encircled A's every-where and say "fuck authority" butwho's still getting fucked? We saywe have autonomy-"live by my rules",but there's still armed pigs on thestreet to make you live by. govern-ment rules and your "autonomy" canbe blown away in 8 minutes. I seetons of people really trying to re-sist but it's Just on an Individualbasis cause we're all drowning in"Punk" which has all too many fac-tions and cliques. There's got to bea place where concerned punks canunite and do something about what'swrong. We need something like Eur-ope's "autonomous-youth centers". Inmany parts of Europe punks havestarted these centers where theycome together annually to discusspolitical/social activities. Thereare no committees or chalrpeople,they're completely unsupervised, andthere is an open microphone. In Zur-ich there have been meetings with asmany as three thousand people. Butover here we've become fuckin" dead-heads, waiting for certain personsor a small group of people to dothings,..as it stands we ere divided,conquerable, and just(insignificant) threat.

Mark M.

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Lynn and my last letter to you-anumber 4 on the problems list. Lastnight I went to see a show where CH3were playing; I hate to say it but Iwas actually embarrassed by the au-dience! CH3 were really hot, butpeople were so obnoxious to them Ifelt like screaming. Ice was con-stantly being flung onto the stage,EiVfU. beer cans ' and 9et this-evenPAINT: Isn't that carrying it a bittoo far? This incident is not a rareexample; I think the Bay Area scenehas become pretty Jaded. Close mind-edness is something we can defin-itely do without. If local groupsdidn't nave their friends in theaudience, I would hate to think ofthe. reception they'd get. We need tosupport "good" bands, even if theyare opening, and no matter wherethey are from. Stop being so preju-diced, and give them a chance. Thinkabout what you are doing next timeyou plan on bombarding the staae.How would you feel if it were yourband up there?

Oh, I just want to add a couplemore things. One, L.A. is improving.L ?uesw .they, hlt bttom, losingtheir best clubs, and decided toshape up a bit. And, two, are youaware that it is now legal under theVictim's Bill of Rights for cops tosearch your trunk-without your per-mission? Consider that next time youplan to drive with alcohol in theback^v .,=.,,,n.t*ras8&i$3i> Michelle

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- no Elite Club shows, butBLACK FLAG, DOA, MINOR THREAT, etc.came through, and played both the OnBroadway and small venues like theTool 4 Die, "behind the VictoriaTheatre," etc. Also great gigs atClubfoot. Most of the local bandsplayed at the Wednesday night MaxRnR gigs. (Discontinued after LaborDay due to school reopening and dam-age and scamming at the shows-it isreal cool' to scam into a showwhere you see 5 bands for $2). Lotsof out-of-town bands played thosegigs too, like BATTALION OF SAINTS.YOUTH BRIGADE, REJECTORS, SOCIALDISTORTION, CRUCIAL TRUTH, GOV'T IS-SUE, SCREAM. We will do em occas-sionally throughout the year.Also, Eastern Front happened (see

review). The Max RnR compilation re-cord release party degenerated froma 48 hour bash to 3 separate nights.OK, but no special event. Nice ofthe DKs to take the same cut as allthe other bands, allowing most ofthem to make more than they ever didat a gig. Oh yeah, the compilation

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Sunday, August 15. With Lost Cause,Aggression. Shattered Faith, CircleOne, Channel 3, Battalion of Saints,Wasted Youth, Chron Gen and ViceSquad.

Nine bands for $9. The OlympicAuditorium is a big hall downtownwhere they have roller derby and '-m^s^LPjJHj^P/^M^

Then we started having fun. L.A.punks, in their never ending searchfor something new, are bringing backthe pogo, perhaps in honor of theEnglish band (do they still pogo inEngland?). Now, a guy will jump upand down as high as he can and peo-ple standing next to him will holdhis belt and propel him even higher.With this human trampoline, thelightweight guys end up pretty highin the air. It may sound stupid, butwhat-the-fuck, it was fun. ViceSquad finished with "Last Rockers",which really got the crowd going.For their encore they reprised "Outof Reach" and did "EMI". A fun set.I was able to leave the show feelinggood.

For a show of this size and lengththere was little stage diving butfortunately, few fights. The slam-mers were more interested in havingfun than throwing punches.

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Boston's hardcore scene is youngin comparison to others, but thegroups that surfaced in the pastyear are not to be denied their say.Society System Decontrol is the ori-ginal hardcore band from Boston andthrough some of their efforts we no*have a strong scene. Although theclubs generally refuse to book"punk" acts, there have been a goodnumber of shows in alternativespaces. One such club- Gallerv East-exists, but it. takes a good amountof money upfront to reserve it. Thehall is completely open for slam-ming, there is no alcohol or drugs,and most importantly, cops do nothassle the kids. Many of the localbands (hardcore and otherwise) havedone shows there with success andsome out of town acts, like TSOL,Minor Threat, Government Issue, andDouble 0, have also played.

For bands Boston cannot be better.SS Decontrol burn with excellence;Gang Green is the fastest, thrash-able trio alive; The Freeze (on thepunk scene since '79) offer well-structured songs without lackinganything in the thrash attack de-partment; Jerry's Kids blare whenthey get a chance to play; theF.U.'s are the best performers thisside of the world; and the Proletar-iat pump up a British-type soundwith great style.

Four new bands have emerged withinthe last three months to assure thatthe scene does not get stale. Dys

blend great humor with Incrediblespeed; Negative Fx and the MightyC.O.'s are both immobile as far aslive gigs go, but they both arequick and on target with theirsongs. Deep Mound, who live in Wes-tern Mass. and have not yet playedin Boston, have a demo of gnarlystuff that must be seen soon. Addingone to the list, 007-local faves ofeverybody-play infectious dance rhy-thms. There it is... Boston!

Shred. Editor,FRONTAL ASSAULT

District of ColumbiaTwo, maybe three shows a month,

that's it. D.C. has lots of bands,lots of kids, and lots of spirit,but nowhere to play. The only club,9:30, may do one or two shows amonth, but that isn't consistent andlocal bands aren't usually Included.Fucked as that may seem the manage-ment is actually very cool, but theydon't feel they can deal with theamount of people and aggression theshows bring. It is only out of afeeling of responsibility to ventsome of the most legitimate and im-portant scene D.C. has to offer thatthey do anv shows at all.

They're on a mini-tour, also playingNorth Carolina. Their new guitarist,Jason, is great.

Other guitarists in the news:Chris Caron .from DEAOLINE is leavingfor college, which is the end ofthat band. Pete Murray of ARTIFICIALPEACE is due back from Germany any-day.

On the record front, IRON CROSS' 4song ep should be out on SKINFLINT/DISCHORO as of this writing, as wellas the lp with FAITH and VOID.

Ending on a said note, BLACK MAR-KET BABY has called it quits. Whilemany new pjnKS did not like them,they've been around since the TEENIDLES days and were fuel fcr themost aggressive bands in the area.None of their recorded stuff rea] iycaptures the full-on pump that theyput out live. ("Asking the ques-tions, but not hearing the truth,living on dreams, America's Youth"BLACK MARKET BABY). You don't knowwhat you've got til it's gone.

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The last show was at the Old Mill(an actual millhouse). It got bustedbut a few bands did play. NEGATIVEAPPROACH were incredible. MEATMENand NECRO'S didn't get to play butwere great in Baltimore. Newcomers,WHITE ZOMBIES are the first of theprogressive bands (you know, "evolu-tionary post punk"). As much as Ihate their "better than thou" atti-tude they did a fair performance.Mostly simple chord progressionswith a sax thrown in for the artytouch.Another new band, SOCIAL SUICIDE,

were great, considering that theyonly practiced with their new drum-mer, Danny (ex-YOUTH BRIGADE), oncebefore. Someone told me that theirmain goal in life was to outdo 0IS-CHORD, but I don't believe anyonecould act that stupid.Speaking of stupid, HATE FROM IG-

NORANCE had better be good. I havenot seen them, but in a local 'zinethey boasted that they have a lotmore "musical orientation" thanother D.C. bands. They said thatmost D.C. bands are "shit." Prettytough words for a band that has beentogether for less than 4 months andonly played one show., Either they'regood, or they're assholes.

Catching the rays on the Floridabeaches, are the boys from DOUBLE-0.

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Washington Metropolian Am Transit Amborlrys pinchnpJd-ni subway system is an ardrtwtf waiting to happen.Such in accident happened Jan. 13. killing three people andInjuring 34 others when a full subway car was crushedagainst a concrete retaining wall that separated the maintracks. National Transportation Safety Board investigatorssaid yesterday in a report on the 6-year-old systems firstmajor acodent that training of subway operators andsupervisors was poor. Investigators said although the systemwas designed to be runny computers, frequent Dreaxdowns

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"scene" has been. Lots of gigs, vi-nyl, and cementheaded people havebeen running around town this summer.

First the vinyl product has final-ly arrived from the MOB (Mob StyleRecords), NIHILISTICS (Visionary),UNDEAD (Stiff), BEASTIE BOYS (RatCage), FALSE PROPHETS (Worn Out) andalso a compilation "NY Thrash" onRoir cassettes. No matter how good,or bad, it all has been sellingpretty well with the FALSE PROPHETSand the NIHILISTICS going into 2ndpressings.

FN-st pRoP/izrsWhere the clubs dictate, things

have been in the bands' favor. Thebest news is that the tiny (under-

New York + New Jersey cowrHnRPstatement; a/ club has relocated Ina bigger, nicer, hall - 2+2 Annex.Out of town bands don't have to feelembarrassed by playing there,- and sofar the club has hosted DOUBLE-0,SCREAM, FAITH, and DEADLINE fromD.C., F.U.'s and D.Y.'s from Boston,and most recently the -PROCESS OFELIMINATION' tour. The Mudd Club hastemporarily opened Its doors to"hardcore" with a show with REAGANYOUTH. CBGB's had a "hardcore" mati-nee with REAGAN YOUTH and theABUSED. This is only after the bandswould agree to leave a deposit incase of damages. The FALSE PROPHETSplayed the elite Danceteria in a"Bound for Glory" showcase for"young" NY bands, and the PROPHETSalso got the opening slot forRichard Hell's return gigs to CBGBs.In the extreme, My Father's Placehad a "hardcore" show featuring theNIHILISTICS, MISGUIDED, 4 the HEAD-LICKERS. Good turnout makes it looklike future gigs there are possible.In NY, Club Mod is going to Sieve atrial 3 "hardcore" shows in Sept.and Oct. If all turns out weil, moregigs will be set.

The weirdest, and most ambitiousproject is a "IT the Kids Are Uni-ted" show, being held Sept. 25 (ten-tative) in Lodi, NJ. The show willfeature 23 bands in ONE day, fromBoston, Ohio, Phlli, San Diego, andof course NJ and NY, and costs $7.

Well, isn't that all nice and dan-i dy? That is it for generally all thehip .and cool happenings of ol' NYthis' summer.

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Andy: Rebellious.Jack: lhat's punk rock Tor ya!ttnna: I think it's pretty worthlessto do any songs unless you havesomething to say.MRR: If you could make one change intne scene, wnat wouio you want tochange?All: NO VIOLENCE!:Anna: People gotta start getting an-gry at violence.MRR: Does that include slamming?Andy: No, like real fighting.Jack: Like Jerks. And get rid of allthe leather punks, all the guys thatwalk around In chains and spikes andstuff. Cause they're no use, theydon't have skateboards, they mightas well die. Actually, it's not justpeople wno wear leather and spikesand chains, but Just the ones thatthink punk is ail about getting on abus and saying "Fuck you, man, whyyou staring at me, man, so I'm abutthole!"Anna: If you have to be violent, you could at least direct it towardsomething like people who deserve tobe beat up, like parents, if youwanna burn something, go burn abank, go ao something tnat will hurtthe system; not burn your ownthings, fight your own friends andpeople supporting [you] that pay youmoney.Jack: Don't burn the halls, don'tburn the places where you deal.MRR: What do you think about newpeople on the scene?Anna: It's great.Andy: They're nice.

,jack M: There should be more newbands.Anna: There's gotta be more "right"people to educate.MRR: It seems like we never see youat gigs anymore except when you play... f

Jack:" Most of the time I'm broke andmaybe that's why you don't see me atgigs; otherwise I just wanna go seegroups that are worth seeing.Anna: It's also real wearing cuz weplay so many snows. And for me, Iget so sick of all the violence, Idon't even want to go.jack: I like to go to shows that arefun.Anna: There are hardly any fun showsanymore.Jack M: Scott and Andy take drugs nolonger, that's a nice thing to putin.Andy: That's the truth! Drugs areterrible. Drugs do nasty tnings topeople and they don't know whatthey're doing.jack: Punk to me is not all aboutgoing to snows. Punk Is Just doingwnat you wanna do and that's reallycliche, but I don't care. I like totake acid and really have fun.Anna: If it makes sense, no matterwhat kind of person you are, If youfuck yourselr up, you're gonna beJust the same as everyone else who'sall fucked up, if you're a hippy ora Jock...Jack: What I don't like is playingin front or a dead crowd, cuz 1think 1 put out a lot, I try to domy best.Anna: You know what really pisses meoff is, even wnen you're playing ina snow and the other bands come onlast, tney don't support tnelr ownopening bands. MUC is really coolabout that cuz they always go reallyearly and they're always there.Jack m: And tney always get intoevery band. 1 just get into an>music pretty moon that's bleyea.

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"Punk sucks! Punk is dead! DEVO,Ever wonder why those assholes out ththings, then throw rocks and bottleor I walk down the streets? Mediacourse. If Punk were everything thewas, then I hope it would die, andYou have to realize that the world out therelieves all the shit TV and the newspapers ram downtheir stupid little minds. They sit around theirTV parties, read the pink section to see how manymore ways Bill Graham can suck away their hardlyearned money, and once in a while an article aboutPunk will show up. Or maybe some stereotypical PunkRocker will appear on a situation comedy acting ob-noxiously and interested only in booze and New Wave.And the new wave? DEVO or HEAVEN 17 or some such month i_ '^Gts f r c 'garbage. Two or three days before the royal wedding cink, bV gPatn* ^fldaque lace3r shirts orIgwn as part

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themselves to the readers of MAX R'n'R.Or do they? Surely, the GO GOs aren'trole models for you young whippersnap-per punkettesl Well, if not, who is?

We take it .for granted that we havemoved far beyond the pathetic lifestylethose females represent. We take it forgranted that we're even newer than the"New Age" .. .anarchists have a knack forthese kinds of foolish assumptions.

Here we are, 5 years into punkdom'sreign. The assumption is that we rejectmany of the ideas we've grown up with,that we reject most forms of government,that we reject consumer fashion. . .also(at least this is what I assumed 5 yearsago) that women could feel more explor-atory-expressive, strong and creative--accepted (nearly, at least) as equals inthis "movement".

Assumptions are dangerous, especialwhen it comes to social/political con-cepts sacrificed and well worked for.Too many seem to get chopped down whenwe're not absolutely vigilant.

Feminist dogma become overworked forsome of us, as would any dogma, but Istill assumed that the important partshad become part of us. We didn't discussit, for fear of sounding "old hat", andhell!, everybody know we're equal andldifferent. Assumptions, like amendmentsare easily shot down.

When I first saw boys in make-up andpeacock hair, I thought, "Hey! There'sbravery in the name of Art and Rebel-lion!" Oh, how naive I was.

Little did I reckon that it was thesame rock'n'roll stance taken by thefellow who sang Under My Thumb .

....I walk into a raunchy club, thesame today as five years ago. Packs ofpeople dressed in a variety of textures,hair and faces of a vast range of color.I assume that each person is expressingtheir alternative vision of beauty. Ina wild re-hashing of styles old and new,some kind of art is found. Or is it?

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Perhaps I was just a bit crazed withmy notions of modern leatherette fem-ales. . . hard-edged make-up and black dudssuggested not only a rejection of thetypically soft, wimpering and placidwoman, but also an assertion of strength.I assumed that colored hair wasn 't justfor playful shock purpose or politicalstatement, but maybe also for the oureglory or coxor itself.

Again I assume too much. Of coursewe don't all act with Art in mind. Themanner of your walk reveals a lot ... likeit or not, you're a walking canvas. Itupset me to hear a girl say, "J. dyed myhair blue because he wanted it blue."Sounds crazy, but it, happened. The sen-sation of an electric blue halo oughtabe enough reason, but instead many fash-ions and women in the scene are as mind-less as those in GLAMOUR magazine.

The assertion of strength does notchange the fact that we are women, andour struggle isn't as physical as thatof all the thrashing guys out there.Many girls really get into the freneticcompetition of slam dancing and skate-oar ding, but many aren't comfortable

in this rough form of play. They feelrather out-of-it. Not only can't theycarry off the rough-housing very easily-but I'd be surprised if they really hadany interest in it. Many people don'tlike getting smashed around for a night'sfun, male or female. I don't mean toknock slamming -I've spent many anightburning off energy and anger on thedance floor. It is too simple to say,"Boys make war, and girls play withdolls," when talking about the ways wewere trained to think from the day wewere born, but there is truth in it.We can't assume that "liberation" meanshaving crossed over into the male world.Who wants it all? It does mean havingthe freedom to dive off the stage, getequal pay and have a little room tohang-out near the stage, wear mohawks,leather or a pretty dress, whether boylor girl.

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MRR: Do you remember the first showyou put on?

Dirk: Oh, that would have been LaborDay, about six or seven years ago.MRR: For six or seven years, everynight, first at the Mabunay ano nowat the On Broadway, you've been put-tine- on Punk snows, you must be avery sick man, Dirk.

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Dirk: Probably, llaughs)MHR: You must have quite a perspec-tive on the scene, having seen It gothrough who knows how many changes?Dirk: Weil, there nave been a numberof generations of people who havecome and gone, mere was an interes-ting scene this last Friday, somekid saying goodbye. He was going toIdaho to go back to school, sincethe vacation was coming to a close.Those kind or scenes have been goingon now ror whatever number or yearswe've been at it. People saying"Well, I've got to go back toschool," and when they come backtney have a slightly dirrerent out-look. It's two years later and theycome back and they are no longerpunks, they're in the main stream.It keeps evolving. Ihe same problemsrepeat themselves with the youngerset, as it comes in. Until theylearn the ropes.

mhk: do they really?

ulrk: iiaugns) I remember one of thefirst people was Michael Kowalskylor UXA) who got k.o.ed by JerfOlener or the nuns, when he Jumpedup on to the stage, and flattened atable when he rell backwards. Ihatwas sort of the beginning in termsor encounters or whatever you wantto call it. I hate the word vio-lence. 1 prefer to use the word

"energy" cause I think "violence"immediately has a connotation whichisn't necessarily there. Violence,to me, meansmalicious intent. Maybethat's picking

. bdnes or beinglegalistic, but, in most cases, 1think the media misinterprets theenergy or youth, bouncing up anadown or whatever. You've got to livewltn tnese kids till tney getthrough that stage. It's rrustratlngto deal wltn a new audience untilthey integrate, l would hate rorthem to become boring and totally"mellowed out." I don't think that'snecessarily the preferablealternative to their over ener-getic running around the pool.

MKR: So, you don't see any differ-ence between what's happening In thescene now compared to like, rouryears ago?

Dirk: Well, there are definitelycertain dirrerences. i think the Sani-rancisco Art institute had astronger influence on the earliergroups, especially in the area ofgraphics. 1 think it's sort or saathat there doesn't seem to be asmuch creativity now as, there wasthen. Take a look at the posters,tnat's one or tne interesting thingsabout the knockout art that you cancreate with xerox. Arter a while itbecomes less demanding to turn outsomething. mat's the only thingthat I reel is really negative interms of tne creative standpoint. Ithink that's because people are moreinto the music rather than the totalcommunication aspect tnat some ofthe earlier bands were into. Thiswas because they nad their roots infhe Art Institute.

Ulrk: uhhh (laughs), by never stop-ping; running double time the wholeevening. And by throwing some of myrits. You've seen me.

MKR: Yes, indeed.

Ulrk: But, you learn to live with it.MRR: You seem to be singing a dir-rerent tune tonight.

Dirk: Oh, I'm still frustrated. I'mupset sometimes when somebody dam-ages a piece or equipment which ot-ner people have literally bustedtheir asses to get, by tnrowlngbenerits or something. Some Jerk inthe audience thinks it's runny topull a mike cord which cause a $120mike to rail over, which probablyhasn't been paid tor yet, so then wehave to sit there and pay ror it andstill not have a mike, or you'llnave someoooy destroy an $8U seat,so that means the next 240 tickets,instead of being $2 will be $2.50.That's the way it goes. There is nomommy and daddy either in the sky orelsewhere that's going to give youmoney, it's tne audience that paysfor it. The promoter is only ex-changing money.MKR:six years, ano somethink "Ah, he's been ripping off thescene ror six years." What kind orshape are you really in after allthis time?

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$3U,00U in the hole,witn ex-employees suing us, printerschasing arter us. I still wear apair or tennis shoes that 1 wore twoyears ago, and most or my clothesare in the same condition. The thingis I feel that nobody rorced me tochoose my lifestyle, ano l obviouslyenjoy what I do, or else I wouldn'tdo it. it can be painful at timesbut I have no complaints. That's thechallenge 1 undertook, it annoys mewhen I see people who aren't puttingtwo ano two togetner. in otherwords, like when we were kiddingaround earlier aDout the photographthat 1 gave you, of me looking likea drooling idiot, i mean, i thinkit's a fun thing. The next personwho sits there and sees it is goingto say "rHAT'S WHAT THE ASSHOLELOOKS LIKE. YEAH, THAT'S HIM AL-

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who actually sat there and retouchedIt and made myself crosseyed. It'soasically me oelng able to laugh atmyself.

mkk: Bringing up the concept of asense of humor, do you think thatthere is less a sense of humor or asense of satire in punK tnan thereused to he?

Ulrk: well, the thing is that whenyou're dealing with a younger audi-ence, I don't mean to knock them,the people out there who are 14 or15, they're the really adventurousones, and from that standpoint I'mtotally on their side, But by virtueof the fact that they haven't had asmany experiences, in some ways theywear blinders. Ihey're very intensein what they feel, so if you presentsomething different, tney automati-cally have to sit there and oecomelittle faclsts. I'm saddened to seethis. The fact that they can't beopened minded and say "OK, live andlet live" because if it wasn't forthat very attitude, Punk wouldn'thave come about. The thing that 1have been striving with, whether itwas at the Mabuhay or at the onBroadway, is to give people the op-portunity to express themselves. Ourgoal is to provide an open accessplatform to people for them to dotheir own thing on. Now If thatmeans to destroy that platform thenit becomes an interesting challengeror the people who have to keep theplatform open. I think that anybodywho wants to des.troy that platformis basically a fascist. Ihis is be-cause he or she is using their mightrather than their creativity tobring about change. That's where Ipart ways wltn some or tne youngerpunks when you see these footballneavles or whatever using their bodyto oppress somebody else on thedance floor. Theresa, Blafra's wife,says she doesn't enjoy going toshows anymore because she's alwaysenjoyed standing in front and sheJust can't take the risk of havingsome 250 lb. bozo land on top of her.

MKK: I've been thinking, either youare extremely committed to doingthis or you should end up committed,or you're Just some kind of a maso-chlst.

Olrk: Well, llaughs) I really don'tgo home and have to clean up, uh,from having, uh, climaxed, it's morelike 1 have to clean off the snotfrom my sleeves cause people havebeen spitting at me. I'm sure thatother people that have some sort ofgoal or vision go through something.I Just would like to create a thea-ter or a stage in wnlch someone withthe most rudimentary of requirementscan get up and do his or her thing,and have the technical crews to plugthem in. That's anotner challenge,getting a technical crew that isn'tjudgmental. Tnat therefore, lr theydon't like something, they won't sa-botage the music. It's always diffi-cult to find sound engineers andlighting people and such tnat wantto work with some of the Uaughs)SOBs that I call artists.

MRR: Currently, there have been someproblems that have come up with 'theintroduction of these Wednesdaynight shows that we have been doing.I thought you might want to talk alittle about this.

Dirk: Well, when you and I and theacts have organized a show and thenput a $2 price on it, it's obvious,or should be to anyone, when youstart multiplying. Let's say thatyou get 200 people and 100 peoplepaying their way into a show, andthen you have these huge guest listsand the next guy comes along andsays "Oh well, I think I'll write myInitial on a wall" or, worse yet,kicks a chair through a window, itwould make it just impossible togive those kind of prices. You and Iand Jeff are all aware that a lot ofpeople don't have the kind of moneyto pay to see shows that are pre-sented at some of the other clubs intown. That's why we worked to getthis down to $2, but when other in-dividuals start screwing around,which has nothing to do with themusic or freedom of expression, Imean it doesn't take any intelli-gence to break a chair. I think it'sthe disunity from within that isgoing to destroy the Punk movement,nothing from without, the more crapyou receive from without the strong-er it actually becomes. It is thissniping at each other and tearingaway from within that's going toscrew things up.

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MRR: I think it's a small minorityof nut cases that are ruining it foreverybody else. Maybe you shoulddiscuss the possibility that you maynot be holding anymore hardcoreshows at this point.

Olrk: The thing is, I always findmyself, when I'm really angry, say-ing "That's got to be THE last one."But then I immediately realize thatthis is the wrong way to go aboutthings, because 98 people are total-ly blameless for the actions of acouple. However, 1 think that weshould all watch ourselves and ourfriends for when somebody may be ina bad state because he or she mayhave had too much to drink or mixedtheir drugs badly and all of a sud-den somebody is doing somethingwhich you realize can hurt the situ-ation, whether it involves the li-quor license being busted cause a13-year-old is drinking or haspassed out in the bathroom, or some-body is stuffing a beer bottle downthe plumbing in one of the Johns.Those things are usually done withinthe sight of people and I think weshould just walk up and say "That'snot cool, just cut it out."

MRR: You mean trying to establish akind of communication or peer pres-sure.

Dirk: Peer group communication,really. See, the thing is, pressureor cohersion, if you say to someone,"THAT WILL BE THE LAST TIME YOU 00THAT!" - smash! I think that's thewrong way of going about it. Wewould really like if some peoplewould come forward and say, look,we'll help to sort of be a 'sanitysquad' or whatever you want to callit. I know that members of variousbands, like Henry of Black andBiafra as well as others, havespoken out on this and have saidhow, on the one hand, we are talkingagainst fascism and, on the otherhand, we're being little fascists.I'm not suggesting that people runup and down the aisles like schoolmonitors. What we would really liketo see is people coming out andsaying "OK, we'll watch out for someof the equipment of stage," etc.etc. And I don't think this shouldbe limited to the On Broadway.Trashing of clubs happens every-where. You Just can't changeeconomics. There are only 100 pen-nies to the dollar and when vouspend 50 of those repairing some-thing that had nothing to do witnthe entertainment or creative por-tion of the show, then it just meansthat you have 50* less to spend.Like you guys have been doing thebooking for no money and when agroup comes, whether they're fromTexas or L.A., and they get $30, andthey start looking around and go"How come? It looked like there were250 in the audience and how comethere was only $200 left for all thebands to divide Instead of twicethat much?" Well,' most of thosepeople, a lot of them climbed overthe balconey or sneaked in the back.In order for me to stop them fromdoing that I would have to hiresomeone for $20 to be a watchdog forthe whole six hours of the show. Imean, we can stop it but then it be-comes a situation similar to aGraham show, where everybody sits intheir little seats and behaves them-selves. It doesn't have to be thatextreme. The things that we are ask-ing for is Just mutual cooperationfrom everybody. When you notice thatyour friend has taker, too much boozeor too many drugs and is in badshape or if they are Just hyped up,Just tell them to cool it. I feel ifyou go and approach somebody thegreater majority of people will re-act positively. There will always bethat one or two that have givenproblems before that aren't reallygoing to be touched regardless whatwe say. But that's to be expected.All we can do is try.

MAp*MAD is undoubtedly one of Northern

California's best bands-extremelytight, raging hardcore. Hailing fromSanta Cruz, these 3 surfers and askater really gnarl. I mean, they'rereal shreddy. Oh fuck, what 1 reallymean is that they're an incrediblypowerful outfit of perfectionists,who more than hold their own withthe great well-known powerhousebands.

M.A.D. is a military acronym forMutual Assured Destruction, a themeof some of their songs. Cliff, thesinger, says they're not a 'politi-cal' band, but have a very personal-ized perspective.

When I tried to get to the root oftheir intensity, I wiped out, so Ithink it might be better to justquote some of the guys' statements.Needless to say, they are prettyfunny.MRR: Steve, what do you think aboutwhen you're up there playing quitarwith these incredibly pained expres-sions on your face?

I think, oh what am I doing here,I should be at night school.

I should mention that I'm anti-beach, surfing and bodysurfing.

I moved to Santa Cruz 'cause it'sa little LA.MRR: How are you different from ty-pical surf clones?

Cliff: They way we look, there'slots of jealosy, believe it or not.All these kooks sit there and actlike they surf, then they condemnyou for having short hair, then yougo out and surf better.

I don't mind not having a lot offood to eat and being kinda skrotey.Dave: They can't accept people dif-ferent. They think they gotta bebetter and put you down some waycause they're bitchin', blond andwavy haired.Cliff: There's tension between sur-fers even from one side of town andthe other. You gotta watch out forsome big gnarly surfers..

The [punk] scene got real separa-ted; a lot of people hated eachother. But now it's growing closertogether, and there are great bandslike RYOT, FALSE ALARM and stuff.MRR: Why do you always wear thatdumb hat, Steve?Steve: Actually, I think it's abouttime to go to Supercuts. I'm thor-oughly disgusted with the hairdo, soI wear the hat all the time.Bill: Steve keeps us on the righttrack [with his fanatacism in song-writing]. No matter how often wethink he's wrong, he ends up beingright.Steve: Remember, nobody rules.

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Whether you realize It or not, ourworld' s ml ghtlly influenced bythls hardplaying head of the g'ant Bechtel Cor-poration. Though the Bechtel Co. has beenmaking headlines recently for its pen-chant for buying top government offi-cials, its influence is really muchgreater and more pervasive than control-ling mere Secretaries of State or De-fense . The largest i n the world, StephenBechtel 's construction company ( "We willbuild anything, anywhere, anytime") vir-tually creates its own foreign policy.

Rather than Just thinking of Bechtelwhen you read news o"f another huge con-tract awarded him or one of his golfbuddies, think of his influence on ourdaily lives.

In the Bay Area, for instance, we havethe "Bechtel Tax" -a 1% sales tax thatall of us pay for BART, that troubledmass transit system that Bechtel pushedfor, designed, and built. Decades later,we continue to pay for the system withevery 6-pack. record, t-shirt, or skate-board we buy. And what have we got? Aquirky system designed to bring white-collar workers into the "Manhattan ofthe West", which used to be called SanFrancisco.

And where's Bechtel? Oh, he lives inPebble Beach. They don't pay the extratax down there.Every time you pay your utility bill

you can think of Stephen Bechtel, 3r.,too. His company has built 35% of thenuclear power plants i n our country . Andas these boondoggles run at half power,with soaring maintenance costs and in-creasingly-apparent dangers, don' t blameyour utility. Steve Bechtel sold them thedamn things In the first place.But where's Bechtel? He has already

shifted his Power Division to get thelucrative contracts to clean up and/ordismantle these nuclear time bombs , like-ly to make more money at it in the next"20 years than they did building them.The Three Mile Island nuclear plant isa current clean-up/repair project, esti-mated at earning them SI billion by 1987,while repai ri ng the engi neeri ng defectsof the Rancho Seco plant is another . Byhiring Bechtel, PCiEfelt they would beable to obtain the government's permis-sion to bring the plant to full power.Considering Bechtel's government ties,tt seems a smart move.

Have you seen downtown San Franciscolately? You can't. It ' s been burled un-der 50-story refrigerator boxes -SteveBechtel's idea of progress. Even fromthe Bay Bridge (Bechtel , 1939 ), the once-oeautiful city has been engulfed by mega-structures that make it look like everyother uninhabitable city In the nation.Cold wl nds blow through empty streetswhile all of the commuters flee to thesafety of the suburbs.

Who will win the arms race? One surebet is Bechtel. The Chronicle carriedthe heartening news 3uly 31 that thecompany would be applying their engi-neering brilliance to the MX missle. Thatday they received $19.3 million to studya basing concept that would put the mis-sies 2-3,000 feet underground. After theRussians bomb the fuck, out of us , these

missies would "burrow their way to thesurface to hit Soviet targets." Great!The final decision on the MX ' s will

be made Dec. 1, and although Cap Wein-berger (Bechtel alumnus 1980) has "dis-luall fled himself from any official actsinvolving the interest of the BechtelCorp, " I have a suspicion that the 'bur-rowing missies' might one day surface.Carry the nightmare further, and you'llhave Stephen Bechtel emerging from hisbomb shelter to of fer his company 's ser-vices In clearing up the debris left bythe holocaust. And If his missle basingplanisn't chosen (this is. the best part)he's still S19.3 million richer!

Bechtel's ability to be In the rightplace at the right time is uncanny, andmore than just a coinci dence. For exam-ple, when the Arab countries began torise in wealth and power, Bechtel wasthere wi th a few former ambassadors andCIA directors i n its pocket to take ad-vantage of the situation.

The result is the incredible abilitythey have for gobbll ng up lucrative con-struction contracts everywhere. Theirmost notable pro ject is In 3uball , SaudiArabia, where Bechtel is engaged in thelargest single construction job in thehistory of the world, transforming thesleepy fishing village Into a completecity where 3 00,000 people will live, workand die. From the desalinlzatlon plantthan cleans the water to the industrialplants they work In.... it will all bestamped "Made by Bechtel".

Bechtel discovered the wonders of work-ing for the government during WWII , buil-ding Liberty Ships. War profiteering? Itis a dirty Job, but somebody has to doit. For 3 years workers ' wages were fro-zen for the "good of the country", whileBechtel made millions of f an investmentof less than S100.000.

Bechtel's partner at the time was 3ohnMcCone, an interesting fellow who wenton to fame as head of the Atomic EnergyCommission under Elsenhower and CIA chiefunder 3FK and LB3.

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George Schultz - Secretary of State;Bechtel ' s S500,000-a-year president fror.1974 to 1982; Reagan brouaht him to Wash

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(or vice-versa) as consultant in 1980.W. Kenneth Davis - Dep Secretary of

Energy; V.P. of the Bechtel Power Co.,with them since '58; though his work atBechtel was building the now-deadly fal-tering nuclear plants, Davis recentlycommlted the U.S. to the breeder reactororogram. You'll never guess who's get-ting the contracts.

Philip Hablb-Even special envoys needsteady employment. Habib is a specialconsultant for Bechtel working In Asiaand the Pacific (New Guinea and Indo-nesia, where Bechtel Is in big ). Now thathe's negotiated the end of the destruc-tion of Beirut, watch to see who getsthe contracts to rebuild that city.Richard Helms-CIA director under Nixon

and later ambassador to Iran. Used hiscontacts i n the Middle East for Bechtelwhen he served as a consultant. No sur-prise that Bechtel was digging for cop-per in Chile again, not long after theCIA-Kissinger- PI nochet coup.

The list goes on and on. The Los An-

feles Times has estimated that a full/6th of Bechtel's employees have gov-

ernment backgrounds. Their futures?What surprises can we expect from Bech-

tel? One can onlv guess. Besides building

the MX missle bases, there is a chancea Bechtel-desi gned and built breederreactor will become more and more favoredby our energy "experts". Reagan's ap-proval of the Clinch River BreederReactor is the first signal. A HouseEneray * Commerce Subcommittee ca lied It"a costly and technical fiasco"; oppo-nents have long feared that it will in-crease the possibility ofdiverting plu-tonium (breeders produce more enricheduranium than they consume), spreadingnuclear weapons to other countries justas Bechtel's reactors in India led totheir A-bomb.

The company led a consortium in 1976that nearly gained control over U.S. pro-duction of enriched uranium for nuclearpower plants. They had the backing ofthe Ford administration, but the billwas defeated in the Senate.Reagan will continue to hinder the

Russia-to-Europe natural gas pipeline.Bechtel is ready to come forward withits proposal to build a $9 billion pipe-line from Nigeria 2,480 miles across theSahara and under the Mediterranean toEurope. T he U -S . saves face , Europe getsgas with U.S. cooperation, and Bechtelgets another huge contract.Bechtel Is currently involved in 113

major (S50 million or more, each) pro-jects in 21 countries. With $11.4 bil-lion in profits last year (and up 50*from the year before ), Bechtel operatescompletely without public scrutiny, aclosely-run family operation (Stephen3r. is 3rd generation) that even WallStreet analysts are unable to penetrate.They buy Wall St. analysts, too.

Jerry Booth

Thanks to the Data Center in Oaklandfor their assistance In researching thisarticle. The Data Center is part of theCenter for Investigative Reporting.

AK47KNOWYOURWEAPONHaving just returned from Europe, my

jolumn this issue is dedicated to bring-ing you the news of the world, or morespecifically, news of Germany, France,Britain, and Ireland.

The politics of the bomb are stillvery much alive in Germany. Graffiti insupport of the R.A.F. (Red Army Faction)is to be found all over Germany. Themost striking of which read: Jesus-Che-Baader. There had been a bombing at thehotel I stayed at in Heidelberg the daybefore 1 arrived. Host of the new waveof political activity in Germany is aimedat the U.S. occupation forces, who ar-rived after W.VI. II and have never left.Those who whine at the number of Soviettroops in East Germany would do well tolook at the thousands of U.S. troops inthe West. A force most unsettling to theGermans, who realize that these troopsmake them the perfect battleground forWorld War III.

Since the General Strike and mass up-rising of 1968 in Paris, the French po-lice are everywhere, and well armed (of-ten to be seen on the streets of Pariswith sub-machineguns). Paris had also

recently seen a number of bombings, theseunfortunately, aimed by anarchists whowere unaware of the difference betweena Jew and a zioni-st. The people of Franceare already becoming disillusioned withthe Socialist government, which whileupholding its support to Latin Americanrevolutionaries, still trades with SouthAfrica (France is one of the largestarms suppliers to South Africa), haskissed up to the Zionists, has moved veryslowly on its pledged nationalizations,'and which has done nothing to meet thedemands of its internal oppressed minor-ities, the Bretons,. Alsacions, and theCorsicans.

Britain remains in the jingoistic mo-rass left by the Falklands war. The ul-tra-right is seen less on the streetsof London now than in the past, but thisseems to be because the Tory governmentis so close to them, they have littleto demonstrate about. The British opin-ion on Northern Ireland has sunk intomourning for a few dead horses. And, inWales, Welsh nationalists have been ar-rested in the last year by the thousands.

In Ireland the war continues as usual.The Brits continue to 3uffer casualtiesfrom bomb and bullet, but have been suc-cessful in jailing i,0 revolutionariesin Belfast and 35 in Berry, In the southof Ireland, the state has increased itscollaboration with the Brits. One fel-low, Nicky Kelly, is still in prison onobviously false charges of train robbery,despite the fact that the others convic-ted with him have all been released whenthe government hoax was exposed. A majorcampaign is under way in his support,as is the case for a number of individu-als who are being charged in the southfor actions in the north under a new law.One of these is Eilish Flynn, generalsecretary of the Irish Republican So-cialist Party, who we spent most of ourtime with while in Ireland.

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M.RR: How long have you guys beenplaying together?

Bab.: We have been a band for overthree years now. In our originalform.

MRR : You must have seen a lot ofchanges in the Minneapolis scenesince then.

Bob: Yeah, club turnover, a lot ofbands that you'd think "Jez, theseguys've got it made; in a year theywill be on top" and instead theyJust disappear.

Bob: Minneapolis is a strange town.Geographically It's split by theMississippi River, so a lot of peo-ple wonder whether music is influ-enced by the west coast or by theeast coast. New York-art cancer typestuff. And then there's a contingentthat think they are Huntington Beachclones. So It's a pretty weird placein that sense.

MRR: Do you think the film "The De-cline of Western Civilization" hasinfluenced a lot of kids to eitherstart bands or get into hardcorekind of music?

Grant: Well, we've never seen It,but I guess you can say, to a de-gree, it may have influenced somekids. Actually, It was playing some-where Just as we had left to go ontour but we missed it.

MRR: You have been playing prettymuch the same music since you began,haven' t you?Bob: We have been doing what Is sup-posedly called "Hardcore" sincethree years ago.

MRR: How have audiences reacted toyou on tour?Greg: A lot of times, if the audi-ence has never heard us before ornever seen us, I think we confusethem. I'm not sure.Bob: I don't know. What do you thinkcrowds think the first time they seeus? (motioning to Biafra, who hap-pens to be in the room)

Biafra: Umm, I think it's more acase of like standing in the den-tist's office waiting to be drilledon and not knowing what's going tohappen next. There are a lot of peo-ple who dance at first, and thenrealize that maybe this Just wasn'tfamiliar and then stopped. People donot go to the back of the room andtalk to their friends, they Justkind of freeze.

Greg: Yeah, that sounds about right.

Bob: If you have heard our album atall, there's that non-stop part onit that's a good example of what weplay like. You will get bands thatmaybe play faster than us or some-thing, but we don't stop. That's ourdifference. . .stamina. You'll findbands that will do a thirty secondsong then take a two minute break.We do ninety second songs and don'tstop. For thirty minutes of thatstraight it can become pretty con-fusing.

Greg: It's like the difference bet-ween a sprinter and a marathoner.

MRR: Do you see yourselves as beingpolitical in any sense?

Grant: If you're willing to accept epolitical Ideology, that's like ac-cepting a label.Bob: Somebody was in the room withus a minute ago and thinks Grantsaid something like "aren't you gladthis thing with Britain and theFalklands is winding down?" and theguy goes "wait a minute, there wasthis one really good quote thatAnti-Pasti had in NME and it summedit all up" and I felt like saying tothe guy "what do YOU think of it?" Ithink that kind of explains our po-sition in a nutshell.

Grant: THINKING FOR YOUR FUCKINGSELF. Or else you're going to haveother people thinking for you, whowill probably do a much poorer Job.

Bob: Our general message is "Don'tlook up to us, cause we're not theanswer. Don't look up to the FourTops cause they're not the answer."What we try to do in our music is .pose questions, not answers. We haveour own answers, but they're goodfor us and not necessarily good foreveryone else.

MRR: Do you think the audience picksup on that? Do you think that theyreally question themselves and otherpeople?Bob: Well, I think they questioneverything after they've seen us,because it's a confusing thing. Thisis sort of off the track, but, likethe best way in terms of brain-washing or breaking down somebody'smental capacity is through repeti-tion. If you can hammer something atsomeone over and over againm you canget a message through. I think in away our music does that in a kind ofsubconscious way. People tend tothink "What the hell is going on?"And they maybe have to go home andthink about what happened. Like itwasn't "Oh, what a great time, the

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was pretty cool, the bands were rad(most of 'em), hut where was everyone?I know $10.00 is pretty steep but therewas nothin' else goin' on that weekend,so why not blow it all on this show?How many more cool bands could you want?Hay be punk and daylight just doesn'tmix. Anyway, Deadly Reign opened the9how debuting Jack, their new lead sin-ger. Boy, when these guys make it bigwill Mike B. be sorry! I also love theseguys' energy and enthusiasm at shows,dancing, etc. I just wish they coulddo the same on stage. Let it out boys!I also think girl drummers are rad. Weneed more girls in the scene; you can'thide from the Doctor, I know you're outthere! Free Beer played next. I have alot of respect for the kids who put outthe time, money, and effort to get aband together and play, keeping thescene going, but I'm just not too crazyabout this band; maybe in time... HiiskerDii came out with a vengeance looking forsomeone to take their frustrations outon after losing not only the S.F. wrest-ling crown but the Minneapolis titleas well to the Naked Lady Westlers Tues-day night. Great diversified set by thistalented trio. One of my personal faves,CH3, played next. These guys really can

play, belting out one catchy tune afteranother, tunes that you remember forquite awhile (especially if you buytheir album!). Up next was Circle One,the band with the family . They have avery enthusiastic following and quitea few came up from L.A. with them. Theirintense style of dancing left most ofthe N.C.'ers standing on the sidelines.Here again is another example showingthat bands don't have to be superfastto be good. Speed ain't everything Jeff!JFA is just another fun band. Anyone whocovers "Low Rider" gets a clean bill ofhealth from me. These kids crank! Phoe-nix shows its muscle! Battalion ofSaints, from San Diego, also playedgood. Although I liked them better atother gigs, they play tight, fast, andmean. Shattered Faith didn't do much forme, I like them better on vinyl. TheLewd have a few good songs but they'renot one of my favorites. Hasted Youthplayed next or tried to. I'm sure every-one's heard the story now of how somereactionary amoeba threw a bottle andpractically ripped Allen's (drummer forWY) head off. They had just gotten intotheir third song when this phytoplanktondecided to show everyone how hardcoreS.F. is. HAH! If you can't see the hum-our and get a laff out of Danny's act

you should get the hell out. -And besidesthe band shreds! Which brings me tcanother scene that points out the factthat people should look deeper than out-ward features (hair, etc.). There wasthis one girl up front enjoying the showwhen this other girl decided the firstone wasn't hardcore enough (she had longhair) and picked a fight with her. I canhear people saying, well if she has longhair she can't be into it. Well, thatfirst girl just happens to write herown fanzine for the Reno area and is ina band, showing that she's a lot morehardcore inside, where it counts, thanthat other girl. C'mon people, looksdon't mean everything! At least give'em a chance, you might be surprised!There was a big fight backstage (back-trailer?) and another one out frontwhere a lame security guard showed howtough he was by hitting a kid held bythree people. These incidents asidethough, it was a good show. Unfortun-ately, Flipper snuck in and played forover two hours so by the time Chron Genplayed most people were pretty burnedout (literally!). This is the kind ofband that sounds alright on record butis BORING live. People were even resor-ting to pogoing to relieve the boredom.

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If there is one area in the wholeunderground scene that we have be-come discouraged with, it's basi-cally that we feel the closet sideof Punk is to be compassionate andcaring. The "I don't care" attitudeseems to have infected the scene andbecause of this it has become very"cool" to not care. We realize thatalot of times, due to the speed andstyle of the music, we will be play-ing gigs with other groups that canbe labeled as "hardcore" punk. We donot find that a disrespectful label,although, we find a problem with la-bels. It seems anytime you labelsomething it is to put it into agroup and categorize it. This cre-ates a stereotype, and for that rea-son we have found problems with it.People come up to us and ask us ifwe are a hardcore band; most of thetime we sound that way and feel thatway. It is not at all that we findthat to be a low life kind of athing. When it is at its best it ex-presses the most positive things wefeel about society and caring abouteach other, trying to make a differ-ence, putting down the bad things,the unconstructive things around us.When we go to gigs it bothers us tosee people thrashing for no otherreason that to be the gnarlyest guythere, to compete against everyoneelse. They try to project a "bitch-ing" image which goes only as far asbeing Just an image. It does notconstruct anything beyond that. Itis our goal to try to bring the bandand the audience up to the same lev-el of consciousness at our shows.The problem we have with being view-ed as entertainment, a night out,and fun like that is, if it only

TRUTHgoes as far as entertainment, thenit is only distraction and can notaccomplish much. We feel that thereis no room for some of the thingsthat have been cropping up in thescene over the past few months. Peo-ple seem to be breaking up into fac-tions. There appear to be undertonesof racism and sexism about. We arefed up with that. The negative thing

with punk can be a very cool image,but it's much harder to have hopeand compassion, some kind of dignityin the way we relate towards eachother. It's definitely worth work-ing for. We had to go the wholeroute ourselves. When we first star-ted as a hardcore band we were verynegative. We projected a very coolimage, head to toe black leather,spikes, etc. It was a great thing todo for the fun of it, but then werealized there's something more thanJust fun to be had with it, expres-sing the way you feel, for example.

The turning point for us was when'we got done with one of our gigs andthis kid came up to us. He had come,basically, to have a fun time butwound up getting a busted arm. As hewas talking to us, he was heavilyinto this Image; he wanted to appearmacho, as if he belongs, as if hecould hold his own. The bottom linewas that he was hurt. We felt reallybad about this. We came to examineourselves In retrospect and realizedthat our night out for fun had madehis something he would have to livewith for a long time. We feel that,basically, the hardest core is com-passion. We are always going tostick by our guns, as far as havinga right to care and stick up foreach other. This is what we hope toproject through our music. We areasking anybody out there who is intothis music and has compassionate,honorable ideals to get in contactwith us. Or even if you have anyqualms with what we speak of, pleasefeel free to write. Our address is:Rebel TruthP.O. Box 22243Sacramento, Ca. 95822

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