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Many Benjamin Knickerbockers Bryan Knickerbocker

24 July 2017

There were many men named Benjamin Knickerbocker among the early Knickerbocker families. This document attempts to clarify their identities. This report is one piece of a larger effort to resolve unresolved questions about the various Knickerbockers. This report is not a beginner’s guide to the Knickerbockers. If you are just getting started, you should get a copy of William Van Alstyne’s History of the Knickerbocker Family... (You can download a PDF version of Van Alstyne from knic.com.)

Overview Here is a partial family tree of the early Knickerbockers, including twelve Benjamin Knickerbockers.

There are doubts about a few of the details in this tree. These doubts are discussed within the body of this report, and are summarized on page 30. Acknowledgments Writing this report was like assembling a jigsaw puzzle. Many of the puzzle pieces were provided by William Van Alstyne, Howard Knickerbocker, Donna Bixler-Simpson, Suzanne Frantz, and others. The records available on Ancestry and Familysearch were also crucial.

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3rd Benjamin Sr. Petrus Harmanusm. Alletica Halenbeck m. Margerie Bain m Catrina Dutcher

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Background: The Sons of Lawrence Knickerbocker

All of the early Benjamin Knickerbockers appear to have been descended from Lawrence Knickerbocker. Lawrence Knickerbocker had five sons. The order of the listing below is based on their importance to our discussions of men named Benjamin Knickerbocker. 1. Benjamin Knickerbocker (1728-1806)

Benjamin had a son and a grandson named Benjamin.

o Benjamin is discussed later in this report.

2. Petrus Knickerbocker (1720-1783)

Petrus had a son, 3 grandsons, and 3 great grandsons named Benjamin.

o Petrus’ descendants are discussed later in this report.

3. Harmanus Knickerbocker (1712-1805)

Harmanus had only 1 known grandson named Benjamin.

Harmanus is discussed briefly in the body of this report.

o He is the least understood out of the 5 sons of Lawrence.

o More research is needed..

4. Cornelius Knickerbocker (1722-1788)’

Cornelius is discussed briefly in this report.

o There is no evidence that Cornelius’ line was the source of any of the early

Benjamins.

5. John Knickerbocker (1710-1787)

John’s descendants are not discussed in this report.

o There is no indication that John’s line was the source of any of the early

Benjamins.

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Mistake in Van Alstyne’s History of the Knickerbocker Family Before starting we need to clear up some prior confusion. This involves the Van Alstyne’s History of the Knickerbocker Family, and his handling of Benjamin Knickerbocker, the son of Lawrence Knickerbocker. William Van Alstyne did an amazing job of documenting Knickerbocker genealogy. All of us Knickerbockers owe him a debt of gratitude. However, Mr. Van Alstyne made a major mistake in the way he chose to describe Benjamin Knickerbocker. Here is Van Alstyne’s text:

NYG&BR, April 1908 Page 119

In reality, it appears that Van Alstyne didn’t have any idea when Benjamin married Alleteka Halenbeck. Van Alstyne also didn’t have any record of Benjamin having a son named Lawrence. Van Alstyne apparently found this baptism record, in the records of the Dutch Reformed Church of Germantown. This record shows that a boy named Benjamin Knickerbocker was born in 1753. The parents are listed as Laurentz Knickerbocker and Margerie Ben. The witnesses were Benjamin Knickerbocker and wife Letge Halenbeck. This baptism record is a mystery. We will discuss it in more detail when we get to the Benjamin we have labelled D. Since this is a mystery, Van Alstyne should have filed this in his “Unlocated” section, along with his other mysteries. (NYGB&R, April 1909.) Instead, Van Alstyne didn’t even mention that there was a mystery. Van Alstyne took a wild guess that Laurentz was the son of Benjamin Senior. This was an incredible leap of faith. It is absolutely not justified by the baptism record above. It also wrong. This error cascaded, since it caused Van Alstyne to say that that Benjamin Senior married Alleteka around 1732. This forced subsequent genealogists to believe that Benjamin must have been born before 1712, which made it impossible to decipher the various men named Benjamin Knickerbocker. This may be the most significant mistake in the entire Van Alstyne study.

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A. Benjamin Knickerbocker Senior, son of Lawrence

This is the son of Lawrence Knickerbocker and Maryke Dyckman. Before discussing Benjamin, we need to go back in time. In the early 1700’s, property lines were marked by archaic methods such as carving initials in trees. By the mid-1700’s there were multiple lawsuits trying to better define property lines. Some of the lawsuits are documented in the Volume 3 of the Law Papers of Alexander Hamilton. Benjamin Knickerbocker was a witness in a lawsuit related to property lines. Shown below are notes regarding his testimony. This court record shows (a) that the year was 1785, (b) Benjamin was 57 years old, and (c) Benjamin was the son of Lawrence. This proves that Benjamin, son of Lawrence, was born in 1728. Having established Benjamin’s date of birth, it is easy to find his date of death. The book Old Tombstones of Dutchess County (1928) has a Benjamin who died in 1805. The age on his tombstone (77 years, 4 months, 14 days) puts his birth in May, 1728. Thus, he was 57 in October 1785. This matches the person in the court record.

The will of Benjamin Knickerbocker was proved in December 1806. It mentions wife Alettica, and also Benjamin Junior.

Based on multiple church records, we know that Alettica Halenbeck was married to a man named Benjamin Knickerbocker. For example, they joined the Red Hook Reformed Church in 1766. There is no evidence that Benjamin Senior ever had any more children. The tombstone of Alletica Knickerbocker has never been found. Isaac Hunting’s book Little Nine Partners, there is a discussion about Gerardus Winans, who married the widow of Benjamin Knickerbocker “in 1807 or thereabouts.” Thus, it appears that Alettica remarried after Benjamin died.

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B. Benjamin Knickerbocker, Junior, 1765-1826, of Pine Plains This is the son of Benjamin Knickerbocker and Alettica Halenbeck. Benjamin Knickerbocker Jr. is the Dutchess County census for 1800, living next to a household headed by Benjamin Knickerbocker. We already discussed Benjamin Senior’s tombstone, as described in Tombstones of Dutchess County. Here is the full list of Knickerbockers in that cemetery: Taken in order, these are:

32. Benjamin Senior 33. Benjamin Junior (son of Senior) 34. Benjamin the third, son of Benjamin Junior 35. Catharine, first wife of Benjamin Junior 36. Cristina, second wife of Benjamin Junior

Catherine’s is the only inscription that includes “Jr.” This makes sense. She died before both her husband and her father in law. The tombstone of Benjamin Junior does not included “Jr” in the inscription. This is easily explained. He died at age was 73, long after he had buried his father Benjamin and then his son Benjamin. Nobody would have called him “Junior” anymore. Christina’s tombstone inscription also does not include “Jr,” but there is no doubt about the identity of her husband. For example, the baptism record for her son Benjamin shows that Christina Smith was married to Benjamin Knickerbocker Junr. The will of Benjamin (Junior) was proved in November 1826. It mentions wife Christine, sons Peter B. and Henry Knickerbocker, and several daughters. (We will refer to Henry again, later in this document.) In 1830, land records show that Christina, Henry, and Peter B. Knickerbocker sold the “Knickerbocker farm” of “Benjamin Knickerbocker deceased.” (Dutchess Co., book 44, pp266 &

268.) (Benjamin’s son Peter was mentioned in both Benjamin’s will and in the later land deal. Benjamin’s wife Christina was also mentioned in both documents. Peter’s baptism record lists his mother as Catherine Teefer. This is further proof that Catherine Teefer and Christina Smith were wives of the same man.)

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C. Benjamin Knickerbocker the 3rd, 1802-1808, of Pine Plains Benjamin Junior and his second wife, Christina Smith, had a son named Benjamin. We will call him “Benjamin the 3rd”.” The records were already discussed. As shown above, the Tombstones of Dutchess County book shows Benjamin the 3rd’s tombstone inscription as “Knickerbocker, Benjamin, s. of Benjamin & Catharine, d. 1808, Oct 3, a.6-2-8”. This is odd. Catharine died in 1797, 5 years before Benjamin the 3rd was born. Benjamin’s tombstone should say “s. of Benjamin & Christina.” This might just be a transcription error from when somebody tried to read the tombstone in the 1920’s.

----------------------------------------------------------------------- We will pause briefly, to give an example of just how inter-woven these early Knickerbocker families were. This illustrates why it can be hard to trace all of the Benjamin Knickerbockers. The Gallatin Dutch Reformed Church performed nine baptisms on September 11, 1802. The record is shown here. There are many different Knickerbockers mentioned in this single page of church records. For one of the baptisms, the infant was named Benjamin Knickerbocker, his father’s name was Benjamin Knickerbocker, and the male witness was named Benjamin Knickerbocker. The good news is that some branches of the Knickerbocker family were regular church goers, at churches whose records still exist. The bad news is that they all kept re-using the same first names. We will now return to our main discussions.

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D. **Benjamin Knickerbocker, born 1753 We will now return to person D, who caused all the problems in the Van Alstyne history. Van Alstyne should have written this off as a mystery, and filed in in his Unlocated section. We could do the same thing, and just write this off as a mystery. However, there may be a simple explanation. Here is a larger image of the baptism record: Benjamin’s mother is listed is Margerie Ben. That same name occurs elsewhere in Van Alstyne: as the wife of Petrus Knickerbocker, and the mother of a son named Benjamin, who was born sometime in the 1750’s:

As a reminder, here is a very small section of the family tree, as reported by Van Alstyne. This shows Margerie Ben, the supposed mother of “D”, and Marjerie Ben (or Bain), the actual mother of “E”.

The simplest explanation is that Benjamin D never existed. Whoever documented the church minutes for September 11, or transcribed them later, wrote down the wrong name for the father. The record keeper wrote down Lawrence Knickerbocker, but the father was really Petrus, the son of Lawrence. (Or, as the Dutch would have said, the father was Petrus Lawrencesen Knickerbocker.)

Generation

1st Harmon Janse

2nd Lawrence Petrus

3rd Benjamin Sr. Petrusm. Alletica Halenbeck m. Margerie Bain

4th ** Lawrence Benjaminm. Margerie Ben m. Maria Hiserodt

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E. Benjamin Knickerbocker, ~1770-1830, husband of Anna Hiseradt As far as we can tell, the Benjamin Knickerbocker who married Anna Maria Hiseradt has never been traced. We believe this is the son of Petrus Knickerbocker and his wife Margerie Ben or Bain, but we cannot prove it. We will devote several pages to this discussion, to present all that we know. We know Benjamin Knickerbocker and his wife Anna Maria Hiseradt were real people. Their existence is proven by two records: First, Benjamin and his wife are mentioned in land records. In May, 1823, Maria Knickerbocker and Benjamin Knickerbocker sold land that she had inherited from her father Henry Hiseradt. The buyer was John Milius. John was probably the son of Simon Milius and Cornelia Knickerbocker. John was probably the brother of Letje Milius, who we will discuss later.

Dutchess Co Book 30, p 62

Second, Benjamin and his Anna Maria Hiseradt are mentioned in baptism records. In 1783, they witnessed Benjamin Knickerbocker, the son of Philip Knickerbocker.

This shows that Benjamin and Anna Maria Hiseradt were born before about 1760.

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We will digress for a moment to mention one more deed. In 1808, Hendrick I. Hiserodt sold land to John Milius. (Dutchess Co, 49, p158.). This is further confirmation that the Hiserodt and Milius families knew each other.

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So far, we have proven that Benjamin was a real person. Now we will speculate about his lineage. The baptism record proves that Benjamin and Anna Maria were close acquaintances of Philip Knickerbocker. We will take this one step further. We believe Benjamin was Philip’s brother. Expressed as family tree, we believe that Benjamin (E) was the baptism witness for his nephew, Benjamin (G). We will digress for minute to talk about Isaac Hunting’s book Little Nine Partners (1897). We don’t think this book contains anything useful with respect to Benjamin. In general, Little Nine Partners contains lots of names, and lots of words, but is very short on documentation. That is especially true in the case of Benjamin Knickerbocker. Little Nine Partners includes the following, without providing any references: “Lawrence [son of the original Harmen Janse Knickerbocker] had a son Peter who married Margaret Bain. [They] had sons Philip, Lawrence, Peter, Benjamin, James, John, and Hugh … and daughters Elizabeth and Margaret”

So far, Mr. Hunting seems well informed. For example, he appears to have named Petrus’ sons in the correct order of their birth. However, Mr. Hunting goes on to say: “Benjamin of the above brothers had a son Benjamin [Benjamin Jr.] is the father of Henry B. Knickerbocker [who lives] three miles east of the village [of Pine Plains].”

Mr. Hunting was wrong about Henry B. Knickerbocker. This is easy to prove. Mr. Hunting’s book came out in 1897. At that point Henry B. Knickerbocker was living in Pine Plains. Henry was born in 1831, and is easy to trace. Henry B. Knickerbocker was the son of Henry Knickerbocker (1795-1861), and was living with his father in the 1850 census. Henry B. Knickerbocker was the grandson of Benjamin Junior (1765-1826) and his first wife Catharine Teefer. This lineage is very easily confirmed. For example, Ben Junior’s will mentioned his wife Catharine and son Henry. (Ben Junior and his wife Catharine were discussed in an earlier section.)

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2nd Lawrence

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5th Benjamin D.m. Saray Ray

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Somebody must have told Mr. Hunting of a connection between somebody named Benjamin, and somebody named Henry, and he extrapolated without any data. Since we can’t rely on Isaac Hunting, we must go back to Van Alstyne, and take a hard look at what he wrote. Van Alstyne shows the same list of sons in the same order as Isaac Hunting, but shows one extra daughter, Marika, Unlike Isaac Hunting, Van Alstyne found baptism records for all of these children, except for Benjamin. Since Van Alstyne lacked a baptism record, it would have been nice if he had mentioned why he thought that Petrus had a son named Benjamin. Here is Van Alstyne’s discussion of Petrus, and his first mentions of sons Philip and Benjamin:

Van Alstyne was very familiar with Isaac Hunting’s work. Little Nine Partners is cited multiple times in the Van Alstyne history, including the citation shown here Van Alstyne thought that Petrus had a son named Benjamin, but did not provide any references.

Van Alstyne provided some details on Philip, and included another very brief mention of Philip’s son Benjamin:

Van Alstyne knew that Benjamin Knickerbocker and Anna Maria Hiseradt had witnessed the baptism of Philip’s son. However, It appears that Van Alstyne chose extreme discretion when it came to Benjamin Knickerbocker and Anna Maria Heisrodt. Van Alstyne chose to only say that “Benjamin m. and had descendants.” We will never know why he didn’t say that “Benjamin might have married Anna Maria Heisrodt.” This is a very obvious suggestion. To summarize: There aren’t many records for Benjamin Knickerbocker and Anna Maria Hiseradt, but we believe that Benjamin was the son of Petrus, and the brother of Philip.

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F. Benjamin Knickerbocker, husband of Letje Milius Benjamin Knickerbocker who married Letje Milius one of the most difficult genealogy cases in this study. We have many records related to the wife, Letje, but only 1 record for Benjamin. Before proceeding, we should make clear that we don’t actually know who Benjamin’s father was. More research is needed.

For now, we have chosen to show that Benjamin was the son of Benjamin (who married Anna Maria Hiserodt), and the grandson of Petrus. As we will discuss below, Benjamin’s wife Letje was also descended from Lawrence Knickerbocker.

We will devote multiple pages to this discussion. We will start by discussing Letje. In 1850, in Luzerne County Pennsylvania, we see Letty Knickerbocker living in the household of James and Helen Kilmer: Letty Knickerbocker was born about 1777.

1850 Census,Providence, Luzerne Co, PA

Letje was also living with daughter Helen in 1860, in Wisconsin. Letje is buried in Wisconsin. Her tombstone says Letta, Wife of Benjamin R. Knickerbocker. (See Findagrave.) When Helen Kilmer died in 1908, her death certificate listed her parents as Lettie Millis and Benj. Knickerbocker. Working backwards in time, we find that Letje Milius was baptized in March 1777. She was the daughter of Simon Milius and his wife Cornelia. Letje’s mother was Cornelia Knickerbocker. (Her maiden name is easily found in church records.)

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2nd Lawrence

3rd Petrus Corneliusm Margerie Bain m Elenor Ben

4th Benjamin F. Corneliam Anna Maria Hiserodt m Simon Milius

5th Benjamin Knickerbocker married Letje Milius

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In 1800, Letje’s father, Simon Milius, was in Livingston, Columbia County. He was next door to a household was headed by Benj’m Knickerbacker. Benjamin’s household had only one male and one female, both under age 26.

In the 1830, census, Lette Knickerbocker was heading her own household in Gallatin, Columbia County. The family makeup suggests two sons (age 15-19 ages 20-30), three daughters (two aged 10-14, plus one 15-19), Lette (age 50-59), plus an elderly man (70-79) who was probably her father. Many years later, the biography of James B. Knickerbocker of LaSalle County Illinois said the following: Past and present of La Salle County, Illinois : containing a history of the county, its cities, towns, &c.,

This biography does not mention Letge or Benjamin, but we conclude that James was their son, and that Benjamin died around 1826, in Columbia County. Caroline Knickerbocker was another child of Benjamin and Letge. Her biography says that Benjamin and Letje had 8 children: History of Lasalle County Illinois, Volume 1(1886)

We have now summarized all of the records.

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As shown earlier, we have decided to show Benjamin as being the son of Benjamin Knickerbocker and Anna Maria Hiserodt. This is based on the following weak evidence:

a) The deeds discussed earlier shows that Benjamin and Anna Maria knew the Milius family.

b) An earlier discussion showed that Isaac Hunting believed that Petrus had a son named Benjamin, who also had a son named Benjamin. Mr. Hunting was careless at times, but he might have had a basis for his claim.

c) Letge probably wouldn’t have married a descendant of Cornelius. Marrying a first cousin was relatively rare.

d) There weren’t that many other Knickerbocker families nearby. For example, John’s descendants were in Connecticut, and Harmon’s descendants were in Amenia.

We need to emphasize, again, that more research is needed. This is a tough case. It is difficult to prove the roots of Benjamin Knickerbocker, who married Letje Milius.

G. Benjamin, son of Philip Knickerbocker Senior

Benjamin D. Knickerbocker (1783-1845) was the son of Philip Knickerbocker and Anna Maria Dings. This is easily proven. The baptism record for Benjamin was already shown, but we will repeat it again here. Benjamin’s parents were Philip Knickerbocker and Anna Maria Dings. The witnesses were Benjamin Knickerbocker and Anna Maria Hiseradt. Baptism records for Benjamin’s children are available, including for his son Benjamin. This baptism was part of the September, 1802 records from Gallatin, which were already discussed, but we will show this again, too: The tombstones of Benjamin, Sarah, and their son Benjamin were reported in Gravestone Inscriptions of the Boston Corners Cemetery, Boston Corners, Union Cemetery, Ancram, Old Cemetery, Ancram, Vedder Church Cemetery, Gallatinville, Niver Cemetery, Craryville, Martindale Cemetery, Martindale : all in Columbia County, N.Y. by Minnie Cohen (1939): KNICKERBACKER, Benjamin D., April 25, 1845, 62-1-5 KNICKERBACKER, Sarah Rea, his wife, Jan. --, 1860, 76-7-18. (stone broken where date should be) KNICKERBACKER, Benjamin, son of Benjamin D., Sept. 16, 1803, 1 y. 4 d.

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H. Benjamin, son of Benjamin Knickerbocker and Sarah Ray Benjamin Knickerbocker and his wife Sarah Ray Knickerbocker had a son named Benjamin, 1802-1803. His baptism record and tombstone inscription were shown in the above discussion of his father.

I. Benjamin, son of Philip Knickerbocker Junior and Mary Snyder The Benjamin Knickerbocker who lived in Parma, New York, was the son of Philip Knickerbocker Junior and his wife Polly Mary Snyder. This is easy to demonstrate because Benjamin had a close relationship with his brother Adam, (1808-1889), who spent most of his life in nearby Orleans County NY. The baptism records for Adam and Benjamin are interesting. Ancestry claims to have a record for Benjamin, but that is because of a transcription error. The baptism record is actually for Adam. This is still useful for our purposes. It proves that Adam’s parents as Philip Junior and Polly Mary Snyder. Census records show that Benjamin arrived in Parma before 1830, and was still there in 1880. Adam arrived later, and Benjamin sold him some land. Later, Adam had some sort of problem with his son Andrew (1832-1888). Andrew went to live with his uncle Benjamin. (See the 1875 census.) Shown here is a biography of Benjamin and Adam Knickerbocker. This is from the 1895 book Landmarks of Monroe County NY with Biography and Family History. This doesn’t list the parents of Adam and Benjamin, but is sufficient for our purposes.

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J. Benjamin, son of Hugh Knickerbocker and Rachel Schram The Benjamin Knickerbocker who lived in Riga, Monroe County, New York was the son of Hugh Knickerbocker and Rachel Schram. Census records show a Benjamin Knickerbocker in Riga, Monroe County, NY, in both 1850 and 1855. He was born in about 1807. The 1855 census shows Dutchess County as his birth location. In both 1850 and 1855, Benjamin’s household included a son Frederick. Frederick died in Allegan County, Michigan in 1915. Frederick’s obituary says that he lived in Churchville New York, the town just north of Riga, until the Civil War. Frederick then served in the Michigan militia. Thus, it is possible that Benjamin and the family moved to Michigan. If so, it had to be sometime after the 1855 New York state census. Benjamin’s Link to William Knickerbocker (son of Hugh and Rachel) Hugh Knickerbocker and Rachel Schram had sons named Peter, John, Valentine, Hugh, Frederick, Benjamin, Henry, and William. Several of these boys left Dutchess County and moved to western New York state.

One of the sons, William M. Knickerbocker, later moved to Calhoun County Michigan. William’s mother Rachel joined him in Michigan sometime before the 1850 census. Biographies of William Knickerbocker can be found in two books, History of Calhoun County Michigan (1877), and Portrait Biographical Album of Calhoun County Michigan (1891).

In November, 1855, William Knickerbocker and his wife Harriet sold land in Riga New York to Benjamin Knickerbocker of Riga, Monroe County, New York. (Monroe Co, 125, p 285.)

Benjamin’s Link to Henry Knickerbocker (son of Hugh and Rachel) Hugh and Rachel had another son named Henry. Henry’s life is not as well documented as William’s, but Henry still plays a role in our story. In 1833, Henry and William Knickerbocker bought land in Monroe County from Valentine Knickerbocker. In 1846, Henry Knickerbocker of Riga sold property to Benjamin Knickerbocker.

History of Calhoun County Michigan, with Illustrations (1877)

William M. Knickerbocker

The subject of this sketch claims his descent

from the Pine Plains branch of the family,

where he was born August 29, 1811, being the twelfth of a family of thirteen children. His

father, Hugh Knickerbocker, was born July

30, 1761, and his mother, Rachel Schram,

December 1, 1769.

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These deeds do not mention the relationships between Valentine, Henry, William, and Benjamin, but is hard to offer any explanation other than that these are four of the sons of Hugh Knickerbocker and Rachel Schram.

(Two of Hugh’s other sons, John and Peter H., were also nearby, in western New York. However, we will save that discussion for a separate report.)

K. Benjamin, son of James Knickerbocker and Maria Stever Benjamin Knickerbocker (1821-1918) was the son of James Knickerbocker (1791-1849) and his wife Maria Stever. Benjamin was living with his mother in the 1850 census. Benjamin’s father James had already died. In 1849, Benjamin purchased part of the estate of his father, James Knickerbocker, deceased. The deed mentions the dower rights of the widow, Maria. (Columbia County land records, book ZZ, page 599.)

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L. Benjamin Knickerbocker of Ontario County NY (and Michigan?) The discussion about Benjamin Knickerbocker of Ontario County, New York, and Washtenaw County, Michigan will be the longest and most complex discussion in this report. This is a two part story. The first part of this story is focused on the Benjamin Knickerbocker in Ontario County NY. He was born in about 1787. The second part of this story focuses on the Benjamin Knickerbocker who moved from western New York to Washtenaw, Michigan. He was also born in about 1787. We believe these might be the same man. Even if we are wrong, it is useful to lay out all the records, as a basis for future research.

Part 1: Benjamin Knickerbocker: Amenia NY, and Ontario County NY

We will begin by providing background on Harmanus Knickerbocker, the son of Lawrence. As described below, all the available records suggest that Benjamin Knickerbocker on Ontario County was a grandson of Harmanus. This branch of the family is not well documented. Harmanus spent much of his adult life in Amenia, Dutchess County, New York. As far as we know, Harmanus had four sons. There are only a few records of interest in Amenia. For example, there are marriage records for five Knickerbockers in Amenia:

Records for the South Amenia Church NYGB&R, Volumes 33 & 34

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1710-1786 1712-1805 1720-1783 1722-1788 1728-1806

m Catrina Dutcher

4th Lawrence Ruliff John H. Harmen

1740-1814 1745-1807 1750-1841 1761-1827

5th Benjamin

Harmon Janse

Lawrence

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The Dover Road cemetery in Amenia contains several graves that are of interest. Dover Road Cemetery, Amenia NY Burying Grounds of Sharon, Connecticut, Amenia and North East, New York (1903)

The graves of Silas and Samson show their parents as Lawrence and his wife Mary. As already shown, Lawrence married Deborah Martin in 1767. This is a discrepancy. Either Deborah Martin died relatively young, or her middle name was “Mary.” The 1807 grave marked “s. of Benjamin” is probably a reference to our Benjamin. If his son died in 1807, then Benjamins birth before about 1787. As shown above, Harmanus and his son Ruliff are buried in Amenia. Harmanus’ other sons (Lawrence, John, and Harmen) are not buried in Amenia. Instead, it appears that these three sons of Harmanus’ were early settlers of the original large area known as Ontario County, New York. This is based on circumstantial evidence. (We do not actually have any documents where the three of the are called “brothers.”) Land records for 1805 show that a man named John Knickerbocker bought property in Perinton, which was originally in Ontario County, but was later split off into Monroe County.

Ontario County Book 10, page 615

Among John’s neighbors in Perinton were families with the last name Wilcox. Those families also apparently came from the Amenia area. Land records for 1807 show that Lawrence Knickerbocker bought property in the area that was later known as Gorham, Ontario County.

Ontario County Book 12, page 177

In 1808, Lawrence

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subdivided his land. He sold land his children Benjamin, David, Lawrence Jr, and Mary, for 1 penny each. The deed with Benjamin is shown here. The deed specifically mentions that Benjamin was the son of Lawrence..

Ontario County Book 13, page 413

(Lawrence also sold land to Harmen Knickerbocker. We believe that Harmen was Lawrence’s brother. We will not mention Harmen again, because he plays no further role in this story.) Lawrence Knickerbocker and his son, Lawrence Junior, appear to have died within a year of each other. Lawrence Senior had a will, in which he left everything to his son Benjamin. Lawrence Junior did not leave a will. He left behind a widow named Jane. In April, 1814, Jane, “widow of Lawrence Knickerbocker Jr deceased” who sold her rights to land to her brother in law Benjamin, who was “of Farmington.” (Ontario County, Book 20, page 487.) In the 1820 census there was a Benjamin Knickerbocker in Gorham, Ontario County. The household had 4 males (one under 10; two age 10-15, one age 26-44) and 3 females (two under 10, one age 26-44). We interpret this to mean that Benjamin and his wife had 2 children over the age of 10, suggesting that Benjamin was born in 1788 or earlier. In May 9, 1820, Benjamin and his wife “of Gorham” sold land in Ontario County. They received $1,300. Ontario County Book 35, page 436

The above deed confirms that Benjamin’s wife was named Jane. (She should not be confused with Lawrence Junior’s widow, who was also named Jane.), Benjamin’s wife was Jane Wilcox. She was also a Knickerbocker descendant, and can be found in Van Alstyne.

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(Van Alstyne noted that Jane Wilcox married a man named Benjamin Knickerbocker, but did not clarify which Benjamin this was. It is clear from the land records discussed below that Jane Wilcox’s husband is the man who wound up in Ontario County.) Jane’s family tree looks like this:

Jane was the granddaughter of Silas Belding. (Van Alstyne standardized this to “Belden,” but it is spelled “Belding” in Silas’ will.) Silas Belding married Janetie Knickerbocker. It is clear from his will that Silas was the neighbor of Harmanus Knickerbocker. In describing the border of his own farm, Silas Belding mentions the adjacent farm of Harmanus Knickerbocker a couple of different times. Jane had a brother named Silas Wilcox, who we will mention again later. Jane also had a brother named Alanson Wilcox. We will not discuss Alanson here.

---------------------------------------- Benjamin Knickerbocker and Jane Wilcox had a son named Silas Knickerbocker. Suzanne Fritz, the expert on this family, provided the biography shown here. Silas went through a divorce, and then remarried. Silas Knickerbocker’s divorce and second wedding were both recorded in county records in Washtenaw County, Michigan. (Many thanks to Suzanne Frantz for the references.) Suzanne has also posted a biography of Silas’ son, Theo. Interestingly, Theo also went through a divorce.

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Generation

1st Harmon Janse

2nd Lawrence

3rd Harmanus Knickerbocker Janetie Knickerbockerm Silas Belden (Belding)

4th Lawrence Knickerbocker Elizabeth Beldenm Aaron Wilcox

5th Benjamin Knickerbocker married Jane Wilcox Silas Lawrence Elizabeth Jehiel Alanson Henry Seneca

Silas Knickerbocker was the son of Benjamin

Knickerbocker and Jane Wilcox. His parents were from

Dutchess County, New York, and settled in Ontario

County, New York, about 1807.

He married Lucy Aldrich,. He and Lucy had four

children: Lydia Ann (Jewett), Theopholis, Albert and

Lucy Ann. By Feb. 1850, Silas and Lucy had divorced.

Silas married Marietta Hopkins in Washtenaw Co., Mich.

later that month.

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After 1820, the life of Benjamin Knickerbocker became more complicated, and the records are harder to interpret.

Benjamin’s land deals in Erie county Benjamin Knickerbocker was involved in a strange set of land deals in Erie County. The sequence started on May 9, 1820, which was the same day that Benjamin and Jane sold their Ontario County property. The table below summarizes the sequence of deeds. Deed number 1 was the sale of Benjamin and Jane’s property in Ontario County. (This is the same deed that was mentioned earlier.) Deed number 2 was on the same day, and was also with Jeremiah Brower. In effect, Benjamin exchanged properties with Jeremiah.

Seller Buyer Price Property Description Reference

Ontario County

1 9 May 1820 Benjamin Knickerbocker & wife Jane of Gorham

Jeremiah Brower of Gorham

$1,300 Benjamin’s property in Ontario County

L35 p436

Erie County

2

9 May 1820 Jeremiah Brower of Gorham

Benjamin Knickerbocker of Gorham

$1,300 150 acres; west part of Lot 54 in the 8th township, 8

th range

L7 p106

3

24 Jan 1823 Benjamin Knickerbocker of Hopewell

James Moor of Hopewell

$600 Identical description L7 p107

4

29 Jan 1823 James Moor of Hopewell

Silas Wilcox of Perington

$600 Identical description L7 p108

Deeds number 2, 3, and 4 are in Erie County. These three deeds involve exactly the same property. Deeds number 2 and 3 show that Benjamin Knickerbocker made a very bad investment. He paid $1,300 for the 150 acre property, then sold it three years later for $600. Deeds number 3 and 4 are very strange. James Moor was a neighbor from Hopewell. Here, James was acting as a middleman. James bought land from Benjamin Knickerbocker, then sold exactly the same property, for exactly the same price, five days later. The buyer was Silas Wilcox, Benjamin’s brother in law. Deeds 3 and 4 are a mystery: Why would Benjamin Knickerbocker use a middleman to sell property to his brother-in-law? None of the Erie County deeds (2, 3, or 4) mention Jane Knickerbocker.

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Jane’s land deals in Erie county Jane Knickerbocker was also involved in land deals in Erie County. Both of her deals were with people named Wilcox who were presumably her brothers. Neither of her deeds mentions Benjamin Knickerbocker. Date Seller Buyer Price Property Description Reference

21 Nov 1821 Larry Wilcox and Laura Wilcox of Perrnion

Jane Knickerbocker of Gorham

$400 50 acres; west [east?] part of Lot 54 in the 8

th range

L9 p196

3 Nov 1825 Jane Knickerbocker of Periston

Silas Wilcox of Periston

$200 50 acres; best [east?] part of Lot 54 in the 8

th township, 8

th range

L9 P195

These deeds show that Jane Knickerbocker also made a bad investment. Jane Knickerbocker’s deeds in Erie County do not mention Benjamin Knickerbocker. To summarize the Erie County situation: Benjamin and Jane made very bad investments, and lost significant money. When these deeds first surfaced, it seemed like they might indicate that Benjamin and Jane were going their separate ways, i.e. that they were divorcing. However, after reviewing all of the deeds in detail, we do not see any proof, either way, about the marital status of Benjamin and Jane.

---------------------------------------- As illustrated over the last several pages, Benjamin and Jane Knickerbocker were frequently mentioned in land records, starting in 1808. This ended with the bad investments shown above. There do not appear to be any more mentions of either of them, in land records, after 1823 (for Benjamin) and 1825 (for Jane). Benjamin then seems to disappear from census records. This might have been because he was too poor to be the head of his own household. Nobody has ever shown any evidence of Benjamin’s death, which leaves an open question: What happened to him? We will pause our discussion of Ontario County, and shift to Benjamin Knickerbocker of Washtenaw, Michigan.

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Part 2: Benjamin Knickerbocker of Washtenaw, Michigan In 1850, a man named Benjamin Knicker in the census for Washtenaw County, Michigan. The entries in the 1850 census form are important. A portion of the entries is shown below. Benjamin was living with Sarah Knicker, presumably his wife. She was 51, and was born in Vermont. The census taker’s entries are fascinating. It appears that the census taker heard “Vermont” and “51” for Sarah, but accidentally wrote those entries in Benjamin’s boxes. The census taker caught the mistake, and corrected it. In an odd way, this helps confirm that “New York” and “63” are the correct answers for Benjamin. Knowing the year of Benjamin’s birth is crucial to identifying his roots. Unfortunately, the 1850 census is our only hint. The scribbled census record suggests that Benjamin was born about 1787, and Sara was born in about 1799. This was an unusually large age gap. There are three possible explanation for the gap: (1) Benjamin stayed single until his mid-30’s; (2) Benjamin had a previous wife who died, or (3) Benjamin had a previous wife but was divorced. Michigan records do not provide any way to know which explanation is true.

The 1850 census also showed several younger family members.

Benjamin’s roots are partially described in a biography of Benjamin’s son Francis. The biography is available on knic.com. The biography above says that Francis was born “near Naples, New York.” If we look at modern borders, Naples is on the far eastern border of Ontario County, very close to Yates County. (Yates County was formed in 1823. Until then it was part of Ontario County.)

Biography Of Francis B. Knickerbocker By Harry Holmes Raby (1976).

Francis was born in near Naples, New York, on the 7th day Of July,

1835. When he was a lad of some 10 years, he came to Michigan with

his parents and family. There was a brother Thomas, and a sister called

Lot, and perhaps there were other children whose names have been

forgotten, or they may have remained in New York state. The father,

Benjamin, took-up land about a mile east of the Fishville school, and

likely Francis went to school there as a boy. As he grew older, Francis

probably helped his father and the neighboring farmers clear land and do

farm work.

Benjamin Knicher 63

Sarah Knicher 51

Francis Knicher 19

Emeline Knicher 17

Clarissa Knicher 13

Charlotte Knicher 8

Thomas Knicher 10aa

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In the 1830 census, there is only one Benjamin Knickerbocker household near Naples, NY. The household was in Benton, in the central part of Yates County, about 25 miles from Naples. The family makeup is three males (two age 5-9, plus one age 30-40), plus three females (one under 5, 1 age 10-15, and one age 30-40). The 1830 census entry in Yates County might be our man, or it might represent yet another Benjamin. (See the Steuben County discussion in the next section.) (We will mention one more interesting fact about Francis Knickerbocker: Francis went through a divorce. This was from his second wife, Eliza Borst.) These are the only pertinent records found so far for Benjamin Knickerbocker of Washtenaw County. Now, our challenge is to identify the Benjamin Knickerbocker in Washtenaw County.

Conclusion: The Ontario County man might have moved to Washtenaw We have discussed Benjamin Knickerbocker of Ontario County, New York. He was born sometime around 1787 in New York State. He was the husband of Jane Wilcox. His fate is unclear. Benjamin and Jane had a son, Silas. Silas divorced his first wife, then remarried. His second marriage was in Washtenaw County, Michigan in 1850. We have also discussed the Benjamin Knickerbocker who shows up in the Washtenaw County census in 1850. He was apparently born sometime around 1787 in New York State. Benjamin’s wife, Sarah Meachan, was apparently much younger, and might have been a second wife.

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Various Internet postings speculate that the Benjamin Knickerbocker in Washtenaw was the son of Hugh and Rachel, or the son of Philip and Polly. Those speculations are incorrect. (For example, see the earlier discussion of Hugh and Rachel’s son.) We have a different theory: We believe that Benjamin Knickerbocker of Ontario County, New York is the man who moved to Washtenaw, Michigan, after he divorced his wife Jane Wilcox. More research is needed in (a) Ontario County, (b) Washtenaw County, and (c) Steuben County. See the next section for background on why Steuben County is of interest.

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Mysteries We will end this report by discussing a few remaining mysteries. Van Alstyne would have called these “Unlocated Items.” Benjamin Knickerbocker in Steuben County (1820) and Chemung County (1850) There are two census entries that we cannot explain. 1820 In 1820, in Wayne, Steuben County, N.Y., there was Benjamin Knickerbocker household. There was 1 male and 1 female age 26-44, plus 1 female under 10. This Benjamin Knickerbocker was born sometime between 1776 and 1794. Wayne, Steuben County, is about 20 miles south of Benton, Yates County. It is conceivable that the Steuben County man went to Yates County, but then died there. (This would mean the Washtenaw County man came from Ontario County.) It is conceivable that the Steuben County man moved to Yates County, and then to Washtenaw, Michigan. (This would mean the Ontario County man died without ever leaving. However, it would leave us with the odd coincidence that Silas Knickerbocker’s 2nd marriage was apparently in Washtenaw County in 1850.) More research is needed. 1850 In 1850, in Southport, Chemung County, N.Y., there is a household with Benjamin Knickerbocker, age 54, and Betsey Knickerbocker age 50. This Benjamin Knickerbocker was born around 1796. The 1820 and 1850 census entries could represent the same Benjamin. Southport NY is about 45 miles from Wayne NY. In any case, we do not know the lineage associated with these census entries.

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1745 Baptism Witnessed by Benjamin Knickerbocker Van Alstyne shows the following: Children of Silas Belden and Jane Knickerbocker: [67] i. Silas, b. 9 March, 1745; bap. 2 June, 1745, Rhinebeck-Red Hook (N.Y.) Church Records; spon.: Benjamin and Maltgen Knickerbocker

This baptism took place in 1745. Shown here is the top part of this page of the church records.

Records for the first and fourth baptism clearly indicate that the witnesses were husband and wife. The second baptism was witnessed by Petrus Knickerbocker and Meseri Penn. The record keeper didn’t include the word “wife.” However, we know that they were, in fact, husband and wife. (Her name was more commonly written “Margerie Bain.”) Thus, we know that the record keeping was done on an informal basis.

The third baptism above was witnessed by Benjamin Knickerbocker and Maltgen Knickerbocker. Their relationship is not shown. As far as we know, there was only one Benjamin Knickerbocker alive in 1745: Benjamin Senior, son of Lawrence. He was 18 years old in 1745. Benjamin Senior was the brother of Jane Knickerbocker. They had a sister named Maritjen, who was about 16 years old in 1745. Therefore, we believe the above witnesses were Benjamin Knickerbocker, Senior, and his sister.

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1781 Baptism Witnessed by Benjamin Knickerbocker Benjamin Knickerbocker was a witness to a baptism in 1781. This is a mystery. This baptism was in 1781, so he this Benjamin must have been born before about 1760.

The infant, Margery, was the daughter of Benjamin Van Leuven and Elizabeth Knickerbocker. Elizabeth Knickerbocker was the daughter of Cornelius, and the granddaughter of Lawrence. Elizabeth was the aunt of Letje Milius, who we have already discussed in detail.

The witnesses were described as “Benjamin Knickerbocker” and “Marjrey do,” meaning “ditto”. The record does not include the word “wife,” but, as discussed earlier, this doesn’t prove anything. We can confidently rule out one possibility: The above baptism record does not show that Elizabeth had a brother named Benjamin Knickerbocker. Cornelius Knickerbocker wrote his will in 1774. The will is fairly detailed, and splits Cornelius’ possessions between his wife and various children. There is no mention of a son named Benjamin. (This is why this report has largely ignored any significant discussion about Cornelius as a potential father for a Benjamin.) The witnesses at this baptism were probably cousins of Elizabeth.

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Generation

1st Harmon Janse

2nd Lawrence

3rd Benjamin Sr. Petrus Corneliusm Alletica Halenbeck

4th Benjamin Jr. Benjamin F. Elizabeth Cornel ia

born 1765 m Anna Maria Hiserodt m Benjamin Van Leuven m Simon Milius

5th Margery Van Leuven Letje Milius

baptized in 1781

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Closing Comments We will close by repeating the family tree from Page 1, with some added color coding. We are confident about our ability to identify most of the Benjamin Knickerbockers. However, there are some doubts, highlighted here in red.

These are the major uncertainties related to these Benjamin Knickerbockers:

There are significant doubts about whether the Benjamin who married Letge Milius is really the son of Benjamin and Anna Hiserodt.

There are significant doubts about whether Lawrence's son Benjamin is the one who married Sarah Meachan.

There are small doubts about whether Benjamin who married Anna Hiserodt was really the son of Petrus.

We hope that new information will surface, so that we can resolve these doubts. This new information could come from the records that are constantly being added to Ancestry, Familysearch, etc., or from other Knickerbocker genealogists who are willing to share their expertise. Happy hunting. Bryan Knickerbocker July, 2017 User ID on Ancestry: bmknickerbocker

Uncertainties about Benjamin KnickerbockerGeneration

1st Harmon Janse

2nd Lawrence

3rd Benjamin Sr. Petrus Harmanusm. Alletica Halenbeck m. Margerie Bain m Catrina Dutcher

4th Benjamin Jr. ** Lawrence Benjamin F. Philip James Hugh Lawrence

m1 Catharine Teller m Margerie Ben m Anna Maria Hiserodt m1 Anna Maria Dings m Maria Denius m Rachel Schram m Deborah Martin

m2 Christina Smith m2 Hanna Gardenier

5th Benjamin ** Benjamin Benjamin 2nd Benjamin D. Philip Jr. James Benjamin Benjamin F.dy m.Letje Milius m Sarah Rhea m Polly Mary Snyder m Maria Stever m Mary Palmer m1 Jane Wilcox

m2 Sarah Meachan?

6th Benjamin Benjamin Benjamin F.dy m Lucy Leonard m Lydia Wilsey

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The next two pages are in support of the ongoing effort to identify every Knickerbocker in the 1850 census

Knickerbockers in the 1850 Census: Descendants of Benjamin Knickerbocker

Light Gray Text = Ancestors who died before the 1850 census Black Text = Knickerbocker Heads of Household in the 1850 census

Lineage of Benjamin Knickerbocker Sr (son of Lawrence)

Generation Name Location in 1850 Last Known Location Marriage(s)

2 Lawrence 1684-1766 Deceased Tivoli, Dutchess, NY Maryke Dyckman 3 Benjamin Senior 1728-1806 “” Pine Plains, DutCo, NY Alletica Halenbeck

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Benjamin Jr 1765-1826 “” “” m1 Catharine Teefer

m2 Christina Smith 5 Peter B. 1791- Milo, Yates, NY (?) Yates County NY Unknown 5 Henry 1795-1861 Pine Plains, Dut, NY Pine Plains Lydia Pulver

Lineage of Benjamin Knickerbocker (spouse of Letje Milius)

Generation Name Location in 1850 Last Known Location Marriage(s)

2 Lawrence 1684-1766 Deceased Tivoli, NY Maryke Dyckman 3 Petrus 1725-1783 “” Gallatin, Columbia, NY Margerie Bain 4 Benjamin (?) 1753- “” Dutchess Co. NY Anna Marie Hiserodt 5 Benjamin 1775-1826 “” Columbia Co. NY Letje Milius 6 Milton 1803- Providence, Luzerne, PA LaSalle Co. IL 6 Nelson 1805-1848 Deceased “” 6 James B. 1812-1884 Manilus, LaSalle, Il. “” Catherine Latimer

Lineage of Benjamin Knickerbocker (son of Philip Sr.)

Generation Name Location in 1850 Last Known Location Marriage(s)

2 Lawrence 1684-1766 Deceased Tivoli, NY Maryke Dyckman 3 Petrus 1725-1783 “” Gallatin, Columbia, NY Marjerie Bain 4 Philip 1745-1829 “” Columbia County, NY Anna Maria Dings 5 Benjamin D. 1783-1845 “” Columbia County, NY Sarah Rhea 6 Silvester 1809- Unknown Columbia County, NY Unknown

6 Hugh Ray 1818-1901 Milan, Dutchess, NY Columbia County, NY None ? 6 Philip A. 1822-1876 Pine Plains, Dutchess, NY Calumet Co, WI Hannah LNU

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Lineage of Benjamin Knickerbocker (son of Philip Jr.)

Generation Name Location in 1850 Last Known Location Marriage(s)

2 Lawrence 1684-1766 Deceased Tivoli, NY Maryke Dyckman 3 Petrus 1725-1783 “” Gallatin, Columbia, NY Marjerie Bain 4 Philip 1745-1829 “” Columbia County, NY Anna Maria Dings 5 Phllip Junior 1776-1852 Saratoga, NY Saratoga, NY Polly Mary Snyder 6 Benjamin 1806- Parma, Monroe, NY Parma, Monroe, NY Lucy Leonard

Benjamin and Lucy apparently did not have any children

Lineage of Benjamin Knickerbocker (son of James)

Generation Name Location in 1850 Last Known Location Marriage(s)

2 Lawrence 1684-1766 Deceased Tivoli, NY Maryke Dyckman 3 Petrus 1725-1783 “” Gallatin, Columbia, NY Marjerie Bain 4 James 1755-1808 “”` North East, Dutchess, NY Maria Denius 5 James 1791-1849 “” Copake, Columbia, NY Maria Stever 6 Benjamin 1831-1918 Copake, Columbia, NY Schodack, Renss’r, NY Lydia Wilsey

Lineage of Benjamin Knickerbocker (son of Hugh Knick & Rachel Schram)

Generation Name Location in 1850 Last Known Location Marriage(s)

2 Lawrence 1684-1766 Deceased Tivoli, NY Maryke Dyckman 3 Petrus 1725-1783 “” Gallatin, Columbia, NY Marjerie Bain 4 Hugh 1761-1845 “” Dutchess Co, NY Rachel Schram 5 Benjamin 1808- Riga, Monroe, NY Stanford, Dutchess, NY Mary Palmer

Lineage of Benjamin Knickerbocker (who lived in Ontario County NY)

Generation Name Location in 1850 Last Known Location Marriage(s)

2 Lawrence 1684-1766 Deceased Tivoli, NY Maryke Dyckman 3 Harmanus 1712-1805 “” Amenia, NY Catrina Duytcher 4 Lawrence 1740-1820 “” Ontario Co, NY Deborah Martin

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Benjamin 1787- Washtenaw, MI (?) Washtenaw, MI (?) m1 Jane Wilcox

m2 Sara Meacham (?)

6 Silas Marnengo, MI Calhoun Co, MI m1 Luc Aldrich

m2 Marietta Hopkins