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MURALI POINTS 27 (PRAJAPITA HERE, NOT IN SUBTLE WORLD, PBKS,
QUEEN BEE)..........................................................................................................................2
MURALI POINTS 28 (PRAJAPITA-FACE TO FACE, IMPORTANCE OF
TRIMURTY)...........................................................................................................................4
MURALI POINTS 29 (CREATION OF BRAHMINS PRAJAPITA HERE NOT IN
SUBTLE WORLD).................................................................................................................4
MURALI POINTS 30 (IMPORTANCE OF CHART-SAKAR MUST KNOW)...............5
URALI POINTS 31 (ONE CANT KNOW WHEN SHIVBABA ENTERS).....................6
MURALI POINTS 32 (NO NEED TO TIE RAKHI)..........................................................7
MURALI POINTS 33 (BRAHMAS DAY AND NIGHT)...................................................7
MURALI POINTS 34 (ENTRY OF MAMMA AND BABA INTO CHILDREN)............8
NTS 35 (COLLECTION OF FUNDS)..................................................................................9
MURALI POINTS 36 (KINGDOM OF WORLD)..............................................................9
MURALI POINTS 37 (FATHER-TEACHER-SATGURU 3 IN 1).................................9
MURALI POINTS 38 (PRAJAPITA PBKS)....................................................................10
MURALI POINTS 39 (INDIVIDUL SERVICE FORMS)................................................11
MURALI POINTS 40 (TRUE TRIMURTHY)...................................................................11
MURALI POINTS 41 (DIRECTION THROUGH BODY)..............................................12
MURALI POINTS 42 (NOTHING CAN BE DONE THROUGH INSPIRATION)......13
MURALI POINTS 43 (SITTING AND REMEBERING).................................................13
MURALI POINTS 44 (DOES FATHER DIE?).................................................................14
MURALI POINTS 45 (FAITH BASED ON DIVINE VISIONS).....................................15
MURALI POINTS 46 (IMPORTANCE OF CORPOREAL MEDIUM).........................15
MURALI POINTS 47 (EXPERIENCE SOUL WORLD HERE).....................................16
MURALI POINTS 48 (TRIMURTHY STAMP)................................................................17
MURALI POINTS 49 (RADHA KRISHNA SAME KINGDOM OR DIFFERENT).....17
MURALI POINTS 50 (LIVING AND NON-LIVING PICTURES)................................18
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MURALI POINTS 26 (FACE TO FACE STUDY THROUGH TEACHER)
"Ab geet ka akshar suna - kaun aaya padhaaney! Teacher aatey hain
na. School may padhney vaaley jaantey hain teacher aaya. Yahaan kaun
aaya hai? Ek dam romanch khadey ho jaaney chaahiye. Oonch tay oonch
baap fir say padhaaney aaye hain. Samajhney kee baat hai na! Takdeer
kee bhi baat hai. Padhaaney vaala kaun hai? Bhagwaan. Vah aakar
padhaatey hain. Vivek kahta hai - bhal koi kitni bhi badey tay badi
padhaai padhta ho, fat say vah padhaai chod kar aae Bhagwaan say
padhey. Ek second may sab kuch chod Baap ke paas padhney aaye..Tohaur sab padhaaiyan chod is padhaai may lag jaana chaahiye kyunki
Baap aatey hee hain kalpa kay baad. Baap kahtey hain mai har 5
hazaar varsh kay baad aata hoon sammukh padhaaney. Wonder hai na.
.. 7 roz bhatti bhi gaayi hui hai." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised
sakar murli taareekh 4.8.05, page 1)
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki jaisey hi Bhagwaan ki padhaai ka
pata chaley toh ek second may sab kuch chod kar Baap ke paas
padhney aa jaana chaahiye. Mt. Abu may toh keval saal may kuch
poorva nirdhaarit dinon may hi Bapdada ki padharamani hoti
hai. Fir agar koi baaki ke dinon may ek second may sab kuch
chod kar Baap say direct padhaai padhney aana chaahey ya unsay
milna chaahey toh kahaan jaaye? Madhuban, Mt. Abu may toh
Dadiyan aur centaron par toh teachers padhaati hain. SwayamShivbaba kahaan padhaai padha rahey hain?
"Now you heard the song - Who has come to teach? Teacher comes,
isnt it? Those who study in a school think that teacher has come.
Who has come here? The hairs of the body should immediately bristle
with joy. The Greatest Father has come to teach again. It is a
matter to be understood, isnt it? It is a matter of luck also. Who
is the teacher? God. He comes and teaches. Conscience says
Although one may be studying any highest study; he should
immediately leave that study and come and learn from God. One should
leave everything in a second and come to the Father to study.So one
should leave all other studies and get involved in this study
because Father comes only after a Kalpa. Father says I come afterevery 5000 years to teach face to face. It is a wonder, isnt it? .
7 days bhatti is also famous. (Revised sakar murli dated 4.8.05,
page 1 published by BKs)
- Baba is telling that as soon as anyone comes to know about the
teaching of God, then one should leave everything in a second
and come to study from Father. Bapdada comes only on very few
pre-determined dates at Mt. Abu. Then if anyone wants to leave
everything and wishes to come and study directly from Father
or to meet him during the rest of the year, then where should
he/she go? At Madhuban, Mt. Abu it is the Dadis and at the
centres it is the teachers who are teaching. But where is
Shivbaba Himself teaching?
MURALI POINTS 27 (PRAJAPITA HERE, NOT IN SUBTLE WORLD, PBKS, QUEEN BEE)
"Baaki jo bhi dharma hain un sabka vinaash karaaney nimitt banta
hoon....Aisa dhandha toh aur koi nahi kartey hain. Kaha jaata hai
Shankar dwara vinaash. Vishnu bhi Lakshmi Narayan hi hain. Prajapita
Brahma bhi toh yahaan hai.....Shivbaba hum bachhon ko samjhaatey
hain. Niraakaar aatmaen ab sakaar may baithi hain. Toh Baap bhi
saakaar may samjhaayengey na.....Shiv Bhagwaanuvaach bachhon prati.
Khud yahaan present hai na. ....Prajapita Brahma ke bachhey Brahman
yahaan hain. Prajapita Brahma sookshmavatan may toh ho nahi
sakta...... Yahaan tum samajhkar fir transfer hotay ho, oopar
class may. Kamra hee doosra milta hai. ...... Shiv Bhagwaanuvaach
bachhon prati. Aisey-aisey akshar hongey toh aakar samjhengey bhi.
Naam likha hua hai Prajapita Brahmakumar-kumariyan. Prajapita Brahma
say hee Brahman rachtey hain. ....Moolvatan kee kitni badi yatra
hogi. Sabki sab aatmaen jaayengi. jaisey makkhiyon ka jhund jaata
hai na. Makkhiyon kee bhi rani bhaagti hai toh unkay pichaadi sab
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bhaagtey hain. Wonder hai na. Sab aatmaen bhi machharon misal
jaayengi. Shiv kee baaraat hai na. Tum sab ho brides. Mai bridegroom
aaya hoon sabko lay jaaney. " (BKs dwara prakaashit revised sakar
murli taareekh 5.8.05, page 2, 3 aur 4)
- Naa toh Brahma Baba dwara aur na toh Gulzar Dadi dwara anek
dharmon ke vinaash ka part chala hai. Brahma ka toh Maa ka
komal part tha aur hai. Fir anek dharmon ke vinaash ke liye
raudra roop kauna aur kab dhaaran karega?
- Baba kah rahey hain ki Baap saakar may present hain, toh voh
kahaan hain?
- BKs kahtey hain ki Prajapita Brahma sookshmavatan may hain.
Lekin Baba oopar kah rahey hain ki "Prajapita Brahma
sookshmavatan may toh ho nahi sakta. Fir Prajapita Brahma
kahaan hain?
- Yahaan (BK may) samajhkar fir kaunsey class may transfer hotey
hain?
- Baba nay toh bachhon ka naam rakha hai Prajapita Brahmakumar-
kumariyan (PBKs) toh fir hum apney ko keval BKs kyun kahlaatey
hain?
- Baba kah rahey hain ki "Mai bridegroom aaya hoon sabko lay
jaaney", lekin Brahma Baba toh kisi ko saath liye bina hi
chaley gaye. Toh fir Bridegroom ke roop may saath may kaun leyjaayega? Bhaktimarg may toh Shiv-Shankar Bholeynath ki baaraat
prasiddh hai. Aur vah Rani makkhi kaun hai jiskay pichaadi
sabhi aatmaen jaayengi?
"Whatever be the religions that are remaining, I become instrumental
in destroying all of them....No one else does such a business. It is
said, destruction through Shankar.Vishnu is also Lakshmi Narayan.
Prajapita Brahma also is here.....Shivbaba explains to us, the
children. All the incorporeal souls are sitting in corporeal form.
So Father will also explain the children in a corporeal form, isn't
it? ....... God Shiv speaks to the children. He himself is present
here, isn't it? ... Prajapita Brahma's children, i.e. Brahmins are
here. Prajapita Brahma cannot be in the subtle world. ..... Here youunderstand and get transferred to a higher class. You get a separate
room.God Shiv speaks to the children......If such words are used,
then people will come and understand also. The name is written as
Prajapita Brahmakumar-kumaris. Brahmins are created through
Prajapita Brahma only. How big would be the journey to the soul
world! All the souls would depart. Just as a group of mosquitoes
travels, isn't it? When the queen bee of honeybees flies, then all
thebees run behind it. It is wonderful, isn't it? All the souls
would depart like mosquitoes. Shiva's marriage procession is there,
isn't it? All of you are brides. I, your bridegroom have come to
take everyone along with me." (Revised Sakar murli dated 5.8.05,
page 2, 3 & 4 published by BKs)
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The role of destruction of various religions has taken placeneither through Brahma Baba nor through Gulzar Dadi. Brahma
role was and is a gentle role of a mother. Then who will
assume the fierceful form of Rudra for the destruction of
various religions and when?
- Baba is telling that Father is present in corporeal form, then
where is he?
- BKs say that Prajapita Brahma is in the subtle world. But Baba
is telling above "Prajapita Brahma cannot be in the subtle
world". Then where is Prajapita Brahma?
- In which class do we get transferred to after studying here
(in BK class)?
- Baba has named his children as Prajapita Brahmakumar-kumaris
(PBKs) then why do we call ourselves only BKs?- Baba is telling that " I, your bridegroom have come to take
everyone along with me", but Brahma Baba departed without
taking anyone along with him. Then who will take us along in
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the form of a bridegroom? In the path of worship the marriage
party of Shiv-Shankar Bholeynath is famous (as mentioned in
the murli above). And who is the queen bee, whom all the souls
will follow?
MURALI POINTS 28 (PRAJAPITA-FACE TO FACE, IMPORTANCE OF TRIMURTY)
"Prajapita Brahma ke bachhey Brahman hee thahrey. Brahman tab hongey
jab Prajapita sammukh hoga. Abhi tum sammukh ho. Tum har-ek
Prajapita Brahma kee aulaad apney ko samajhtey hoShivbaba bhikahtey hain mai is shareeer dwara baat karta hoon. Nahi toh mai
kaisey aaoon? Mera janma divya haiMai inkay baaju may aakar
baithta hoon, jahaan aatma rahti hai. Mai swatantra hoon. Kahaan bhi
jaa aa sakta hoon.Baba nay kaha tha har-ek chitra may likho
paarloukik parampita parmatma Trimurty Shiv Bhagwaanuvaach. Trimurty
na likhney say kahengey Shiv toh niraakaar hai, vah kaisey gyaan
dengey?" (BKs dwara prakaashit revised sakar murli taareekh 8.8.05,
page 2, 3 aur 4)
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki Brahman tabhi hongey jab Prajapita
sammukh hoga. Lekin BKs toh kahtey hain ki Prajapita Brahma
sookshma vatan may hai. Toh fir vah sammukh kaisey hai? BK
centaron ki teacher behnein Brahma Baba ke chitra ki taraf
ishara karke kahti hain ki hum Brahma ke sammukh baithey hain,lekin vah toh sirf jad chitra hai. Fir chaitanya may Prajapita
Brahma kahaan hai?
"Children of Prajapita Brahma would be called Brahmins only.
Brahmins will exist only when Prajapita is present face to face. Now
you are face to face. Every one of you considers yourself to be the
child of Prajapita Brahma. .... Shivbaba also says that I speak
through this body. Otherwise how will I come? My birth is divine....
I come and sit beside him, where the soul resides. I am free. I can
go and come wherever I wish..... Baba had said, Write in every
picture Paarloukik (dweller of the Supreme Abode) Supreme Father
Supreme Soul Trimurty God Shivas verdict: If the word Trimurty
is not written, then they will say that Shiv is incorporeal, howwill he give knowledge? (Revised sakar murli dated 8.8.05, page 2,
3 & 4 published by BKs)
- Baba is telling that Brahmins will exist only when Prajapita
is present face to face. But BKs say that Prajapita Brahma is
in the subtle world. Then how is he face to face? While
pointing towards the picture of Brahma Baba the teachers of BK
centres say that we are sitting face to face with Brahma. But
that is only a non-living picture. Then where is Prajapita
Brahma in living form?
MURALI POINTS 29 (CREATION OF BRAHMINS PRAJAPITA HERE NOT IN SUBTLE
WORLD)"Brahman jo apney ko kahlaatey hain, unsay poochana chaahiye Brahma kahaan
say aaya? Yah kiski rachana hai. Brahma ko kisney create kiya? Kabhi koi
bataa na sakey, jaantey hee nahi. ....Prajapita Brahma kee aulaad Brahman
hotey hain - Yah koi jaantey nahi sivaay tum bachhon kay. Unko pataa bhi
kaisey padey, jabki Brahma ko sookshmavatan may samajh letey hain. Vah
jismaani Brahman alag hain jo pooja kartey hain, dhaama khaatey hain. Tum
toh dhama aadi nahi khaatey ho. ... Prajapita Brahma toh yahaan hai.
Brahmanon dwara gyaan yagya rachtey hain toh jaroor Brahman hee chaahiye
na. Prajapita Brahma bhi yahaan chaahiye, jis say Brahman hon.
.....Shivbaba toh patiyon ka pati hai. Sagaai ho jaati hai, toh fir kahtey
hain hum aisey pati ke saath kab milengi. Aatmaen kahti hain - Shivbaba
hamaari toh aapsey sagaai ho gayi. Ab aapsey hum milein kaisey?" (BKs
dwara prakaashit revised sakar murli taareekh 12.8.05, page 1, 2 aur 4)- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki jo Brahma ko sookshmavatan may
samajhtey hain vah galat hain aur Prajapita Brahma toh yahaan
chaahiye jis say Brahman hon. Lekin BKs toh Brahma ko
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sookshmavatan may hee bataatey hain. Toh fir Brahma kahaan
hai?
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki jismaani Brahman dhaama khaatey
hain. Hum roohani Brahmanon (BKs) ko toh dhaama nahi khaana
chaahiye. Lekin dekha gaya hai ki har centre may satguruvaar
ke bhog ke alaava bhi BKs ke janmadin, shaadiyon ya ghar ke
udghaatan ya kisi anya kaaran say bhog aur Brahma bhojan hotey
hee rahtey hain. Fir kya ham apney ko sachhey roohani Brahman
kahla saktey hain?
"You must ask those who describe themselves as Brahmins that where did
Brahma come from? Whose creation is he? Who created Brahma? Nobody can
tell. They do not know at all.....Children of Prajapita Brahma are
Brahmins. Nobody knows this except you children. How can they know, when
they consider Brahma to be the resident of the subtle world? Those
physical Brahmins are different, who worship and eat dhaama (feast). You
do not eat dhaama (feast) etc. .... Prajapita Brahma is here. Gyan Yagya
is created through Brahmins. So certainly Brahmins only are required,
isn't it? Prajapita Brahma is also required here, from whom Brahmins could
be created......Shivbaba is the husband of all husbands.When the
engagement takes place then they say that when will we meet such a
husband. The souls say - Shivbaba we have been engaged to you. Now how do
we meet you?" (Revised sakar murli dated 12.8.05, page 1, 2 & 4 publishedby BKs)
- Baba is telling that those who consider Brahma to be a
resident of subtle world are wrong and that Prajapita Brahma
should be present here to create Brahmins. But BKs consider
Brahma to be in the subtle world. Then where is Prajapita
Brahma?
- Baba is telling that the physical Brahmins (i.e. Brahmins by
physical birth) eat dhaama (meals organized after any
religious ceremony in the Hindu community). We spiritual
Brahmins (BKs) should not eat dhaama. But it has been observed
that in every centre, apart from the regular bhog on
Thursdays, bhog and Brahma Bhojan are also arranged on various
occasions like the birthdays and marriages of BKs,inauguration of new houses of BKs etc. Then, can we call
ourselves as true spiritual Brahmins?
MURALI POINTS 30 (IMPORTANCE OF CHART-SAKAR MUST KNOW)
"Yah aankhein criminal hain, koi ko dekhney say vikaar ki drishti
jaati hai toh unkay 84 janma nahi hongey. Vah nar say Narayan nahi
ban sakengeyIsliye Baba kahtey hain roz raat ko apney ko dekho.
Agar sapoot bachhey hain toh chart bhejein. Bhal koi chart likhtey
hain, parantu saath may yah likhtey nahi ki hamney kisko dukh diya
va yah bhool kee. .Toh Baba sabko raay detey hain chart may yah bhi
likho aankhon nay dhokha toh nahi diya? Paap toh nahi kiya?Aankhein koi na koi baat may dhokha jaroor deti hain. Aankhein
bilkul sheetal ho jaani chaahiye. Apney ko ashareeri samjho. Yah
karmaateet avastha pichaadi may hogi. So bhi jab Baba ko apna chart
bhej dengey. Bhal Dharmaraj kay register may sab jamaa ho jaata hai
automatically. Parantu jabki baap saakaar may aaye hain toh kahtey
hain saakaar ko maloom padna chaahiye. Toh khabardaar karengey. .
Likhtey hain hum kisko dukh nahi detey hain. Baba kahengey achha,
chart lekar aana toh dekhengey. Baba bulaayengey bhi aisey achhey
bachhey ko ham dekhein toh sahi. Sapoot bachhon ko baap bahut pyaar
kartey hain." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised sakar murli taareekh
15.8.05, page 1-4)
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki Yah karmaateet avastha pichaadi
may hogi. So bhi jab Baba ko apna chart bhej dengey. GulzarDadi may jab Bapdada ki praveshata hoti hai toh bachhey unko
direct apna chart toh dey nahi saktey. Aur baaki samay may
Baba madhuban, Mt. Abu may hotey nahi. Toh fir chart kisko
dein? Jyotibindu niraakaar baap ko man may bataaney say bhi
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kaam nahi chalega kyunki Baba oopar kah rahey hain ki saakaar
ko maaloom padna chaahiye. Toh vah saakaar kahaan hai jo chart
padh kar achhey bachhon ko bulaayengey?
"These eyes are criminal. If the vision becomes vicious by
looking at anyone, then they will not take 84 births. They will
not be able to transform from a man to Narayan..... That is why
Baba says, check yourself in the night daily. If you are a worthy
child then send your chart. Although some children write chart,
they do not write along with it if they have caused any sorrow toanyone or if they have committed any mistake..... So Baba advices
everyone to also write in the chart whether the eyes have
deceived or not? Whether you have committed any sin or not? Eyes
definitely deceive in some matter or the other. Eyes should
become completely cool. Consider yourself to be bodiless. This
karmateet stage(the stage beyond actions) will be achieved in the
end, that too when you send your chart to Baba. Although
everything gets accumulated in the register of Dharmaraj
automatically, but when Father has come in a corporeal form then
He says that the corporeal medium should also know. Then he will
caution.....Children write that we do not cause sorrow to anyone.
Baba will say, OK, bring your chart, then I will see. Baba will
also call such good children, Let me see. Father loves theworthy children very much. (Revised sakar murli dated 15.8.05,
page 1-4 published by BKs)
- Baba is telling that This karmateet stage will be achieved in
the end, that too when you send your chart. When Bapdada
enters into Gulzar Dadi then children are not allowed to
directly submit their chart to him. And in the remaining time
Baba is not present in Madhuban, Mt. Abu. Then whom do we send
the chart? It is not sufficient if we tell the point of light
incorporeal Father in the mind because Baba is telling above
that the corporeal medium must know. Then where is that
corporeal medium, who will read the charts and call the good
children to meet him?
URALI POINTS 31 (ONE CANT KNOW WHEN SHIVBABA ENTERS)
"Baba ko maaloom thodey hee padta hai. Shivbaba kee aatma kaisey
aati jaati hai. Aisey bhi nahi, sadaiv ismay rahti hai. Toh yahee
chintan karnaa hai. Tum bachhon ko Baap aisa gyaan detey hain jo
kabhi koi ko mil na sakey." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised sakar
murli taareekh 18.8.05, page 1)
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki Baba ko maaloom thodey hee padta
hai. Shivbaba kee aatma kaisey aati jaati hai. Gulzar Dadi
may jab (shareeer ke jhatkey tatha shaaririk parivartanon ke
saath) Bapdada ki praveshata hoti hai toh bachhon ko tatkaal
pata pad jaata hai. Fir kya Gulzar Dadi may Shiv Baap ki
praveshata hoti hai ya fir sirf sookshma shareeerdhari Brahma
ki?
"Baba does not know how the soul of Shivbaba comes and goes. It is
also not true that it (Soul of Shivbaba) remains in this body
always. So one must think only about this. Father gives you children
such a knowledge which cannot be attained by anyone at any time.
(Revised sakar murli dated 18.8.05, page 1 published by BKs)
- Baba is telling that Baba does not know how the soul of
Shivbaba comes and goes. When Bapdada enters into Gulzar Dadi
(along with a jerk of the body and some physical changes) then
children immediately come to know about his entering into her
body. Then is it Father Shiva who is entering into the body of
Gulzar Dadi or is it only the subtle bodied Brahma who isentering into her?
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MURALI POINTS 32 (NO NEED TO TIE RAKHI)
"Brahmakumar-Brahmakumariyan baith pavitrata kee pratigya karaaney
kee raakhi baandhti hain. Baap kahtey hain maamekam yaad karo toh
tum paavan ban paavan duniya kay maalik ban jaayengey. Baaki koi
raakhi aadi baandhney kee darkaar nahi hai." (BKs dwara prakaashit
revised sakar murli taareekh 19.8.05, page 2)
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki Baaki koi raakhi aadi baandhney
kee darkaar nahi hai. Kintu kayi varshon say yah dekha gaya
hai ki mukhyalay Mt. Abu tatha BK centres par Dadiyan yabehnein raakhiyan baandhti hain aur badley may paisa bhi
sweekaar karti hain (kayi baar khullam-khulla naa ki band
covers may, jaisa ki gupt seva ka tareeka hai). Baba toh
pavitrata kee pratigya leney ke liye kah rahey hain. Fir kya
sthool raakhi baandhney ki jaroorat hai?
"Brahmakumar-Brahmakumaris sit and tie the Rakhi of enabling one to
take the pledge of purity. Father says remember only me, then you
will become pure and also become the masters of pure world. As
regard the Rakhi, there is no need to tie Rakhi etc. (Revised sakar
murli dated 19.8.05, page 2 published by BKs)
- Baba is telling that there is no need to tie Rakhi etc. But
it has been observed since many years that both in theheadquarters Mt. Abu and in the BK centres, raakhis are tied
by the Dadis or sisters and they also accept money in return
(many a times openly, and not in covers, as should be the
method of incognito service). Baba is asking us to take a
pledge of purity. Then, is there any need to tie a physical
rakhi?
MURALI POINTS 33 (BRAHMAS DAY AND NIGHT)
"Gyaan say din, bhakti say raat kaisey hoti hai yah bhi koi
samajhtey nahi hain. Kahengey Brahma tatha Brahma mukhvanshavali
Brahmanon kaa din fir unhee Brahmanon kee raat. Din aur raat yahaan
hota hai, yah koi nahi samajhtey. Prajapita Brahma kee raat, toh
jaroor unkay Brahma mukhvanshavali Brahmanon kee bhi raat hogi.Aadhakalp din, aadhakalp raat." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised sakar
murli taareekh 22.8.05, page 1 & 2)
- 5000 varsh ke broad drama may na toh Brahma hoga aur na
mukhvanshavali Brahman, toh fir 2500 varsh ke satyug aur
tretayug ko Brahma ka din aur agley 2500 varsh ke dwapar aur
kaliyug ko Brahma kee raat kaisey kah saktey hain?
- Brahma aur Brahman toh Sangam par hotey hain, toh Brahma ka
din aur Brahma kee raat bhi Sangam par honay chaahiye na? Kya
iska arth yah hai ki jab Bhagwaan Shiv direct Prajapita Brahma
ke roop may Brahman bachhon ke sanmukh ho toh vah Brahma ka
din hai aur jab bachhey is bhram may aa jaatey hain ki
Bhagwaan Shiv Paramdhaam laut gaye hain (jabki vaastav may
aisa nahi hai), tab Brahma kee raat hai?
"Nobody understands how day is brought about through knowledge and
how night is brought about by bhakti. They say day of Brahma and
Brahmas mouth born progeny Brahmins and then the night of the same
Brahmins. Nobody understands that day and night are here only. When
it is the night of Prajapita Brahma, then certainly it will also be
the night of Brahmas mouth born progeny Brahmins. Half-kalpa day
and half kalpa night. (Revised sakar murli dated 22.8.05, page 1 &
2 published by BKs)
- In the broad drama of 5000 years there will not be any Brahma
or or mouth born Brahmins, then how can the 2500 years period
of Golden and Silver Age be called as Brahmas day and the
next 2500 years period of Copper and Iron Age as Brahmas
night?
- Brahma and Brahmins are in the Confluence Age, so the Brahmas
day and night also must be in the Confluence Age only, isnt
it? Does it mean that when God Shiva is directly present in
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the form of Prajapita Brahma before the eyes of Brahmin
children, it is the Brahmas day and when children are under
the illusion that God Shiva has returned to the soul world
(while actually it is not so) it is the Brahmas night?
MURALI POINTS 34 (ENTRY OF MAMMA AND BABA INTO CHILDREN)
"Bahut kahtey hain hamaarey may Mamma aati hai, Shivbaba aatey hain
parantu nayi-nayi points toh mukarrar tan dwara hee sunayengey ki
doosrey kisi dwara sunayengey. Yah ho nahi sakta. Aisey tohbachhiyan bhi bahut prakaar kee points apni bhi sunaati hain.
Magazine may kitni baatein aati hain. Aisey nahi ki Mamma-Baba unmay
aatey, vah likhvaatey hain. Nahi, Baap toh yahaan direct aatey hain,
tab toh yahaan sun-ney ke liye aatey ho. Agar Mamma-Baba koi may
aatey hain, toh fir vahaan hee baith unsay padhein. Nahi, yahaan
aaney kee sabko kashish hoti hai. Door rahney vaalon ko aur hee
jaasti kashish hoti hai." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised sakar murli
taareekh 27.8.05, page 3)
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki nayi-nayi points toh mukarrar tan
dwara hee sunaayengey. BKs kahtey hain ki Shiv nay pehley
Brahma Dada Lekhraj may pravesh kiya, fir ab Gulzar Dadi may
aa rahey hain. Toh mukarrar tan kaunsa hai? Brahma Dada
Lekhraj ka ya Gulzar Dadi ka ya fir koi aur?- Ek aur murli may bola hai ki Baba ant tak naye-naye points
sunaatey rahengey. Gulzar Dadi kay dwara jo Avyakta vaniyan
sunaai jaa rahi hain, unmay toh adhiktar gyaan dharna say
sambandhit hota hai jo 1969 say dohraaye jaatey rahey hain.
Fir drama ke aadi-madhya-ant say sambandhit naye-naye points
kis tan dwara sunaaye ja rahey hain?
- Baba kah rahey hain ki Baap yahaan direct aatey hain. BKs toh
kahtey hain ki Shiv paramdhaam say pehley sookshmavatan may
Brahma ke sookshma tan may pravesh kartey hain aur fir dono
milkar Gulzar Dadi may pravesh kartey hain. Yah toh direct
aana nahi hua na. Toh fir direct Shiv kismay pravesh kartey
hain jaisey Brahma Dada Lekhraj ke tan may pravesh kartey
thay?
"Many say that Mamma comes in us, Shivbaba comes, but is it thatthe
newer points be narrated only through the fixed body or through
anyone else? This cannot happen. Even sisters (bachhiyan) also
narrate many kinds of points of their own. So many points appear in
the magazine! It is not so, that Mamma and Baba come in them, or
they cause them to write. No; Father comes here directly; only then
do you come here to listen. If Mamma and Baba enter into someone,
then they can sit there itself and study through them. No, everyone
feels attracted to come here. Those who live far away get more
attracted. (Revised sakar murli dated 27.8.05, page 3 published by
BKs)
-Baba is telling that the newer points will be narrated onlythrough the body fixed in the drama. BKs say that earlier Shiv
used to enter into Brahma Dada Lekhraj, and then he is now
entering Gulzar Dadi. So, which is the fixed body? Is it
Brahma Dada Lekhraj or Gulzar Dadi or anyone else?
- In another murli it has been said that Baba will keep
narrating new points till the end. The Avyakta Vanis being
narrated through Gulzar Dadi mostly contain Dharana points,
which are being repeated since 1969. Then through which human
body are new points related to the beginning, middly and end
of the world drama being narrated?
- Baba is telling that Father comes here directly. BKs say that
incorporeal Shiv first leaves the soul world and enters into
the subtle body of Brahma in the subtle world and then both ofthem enter into the body of Gulzar Dadi. This cannot be called
as a direct entry, isnt it? Then in whom does Shiv enter
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directly, just as He used to enter into the body of Brahma
Dada Lekhraj?
NTS 35 (COLLECTION OF FUNDS)
"Baba kay bahut dekhey huay hain. Koi badaa sanyaasi aata hai toh
bahut unkay followers hotay hain. Fund (chanda) ikattha kartey hain.
Apni-apni taaqat anusaar funds nikaaltey hain. Yahaan baap toh aisey
nahi kahengey- funds ikattha karo. Nahi, yahaan toh jo beej boyengey
21 janma uska fal paayengey." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised sakarmurli taareekh 29.8.05, page 2)
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki funds ikattha nahi karna hai, jabki
BK centres may aam taur par yah dekha jaata hai ki teacher
behnein kisi na kisi programme ya building banaaney kay naam
par funds (chanda) ikattha karti rahti hain. Kya yah ukta
Shrimat ka ullanghan nahi hai?
"Baba has seen many people. If a renowned sanyasi comes, he has many
followers. They collect funds. They contribute funds as per their
individual capacity. Here father will not say collect funds. No.
Whoever sows the seeds here will get its fruits for 21 births.
(Revised sakar murli dated 29.8.05, page 2 published by BKs)
-Baba is telling that we should not collect funds, while it iscommonly seen at the BK centres that the BK teachers keep
collecting funds in the name of some or the other programme or
construction of buildings. Is it not a violation of above
mentioned Shrimat?
MURALI POINTS 36 (KINGDOM OF WORLD)
"Abhi jaantey ho Baba fir say aakar hamko vishwa kee baadshaahi
detey hain. Koi kee buddhi may nahi aayega ki vishwa ki baadshahi
kya hoti hai. Vishwa maana saari duniya." (BKs dwara prakaashit
revised sakar murli taareekh 01.09.05, page 2)
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki voh hamey vishwa kee baadshaahi
detey hain aur vishwa maana saari duniya. Lekin BKs dwara
prakashit Lakshmi Naryan ke chitra may toh keval Bhaarat ka
naksha dikhaya jaata hai. Toh fir satyugi Lakshmi Narayan ko
toh keval Bhaarat ke baadshaah kaha jaayega na ki vishwa ke
baadshaah? Kya saarey vishwa aur saarey dharmon kee aatmaon ke
maat-pita ya baadshaah ke roop may pratyaksh honay vaali
aatmaen koi aur hain?
"Now you know that Baba has come again and is giving us the kingship
of the world. It will not strike the intellect of anyone else as to
what is the kingship of the world (vishwa kee baadshaahi)? Vishwa
means entire world. (Revised sakar murli dated 01.09.05, page 2
published by BKs)
- Baba is telling that He is giving us the kingship of the world
and that vishwa means the entire world. But the picture of
Lakshmi-Narayan published by the BKs shows only the map of
India. Then the Golden-aged Lakshmi-Narayan will be called
only the Emperor of India and not the World Emperor. Are the
souls, who get revealed as the mother and father or Emperor &
Empress of the entire world and all the souls of the world
different?
MURALI POINTS 37 (FATHER-TEACHER-SATGURU 3 IN 1)
"Baap satya hai, satya shikshak bhi hai, satguru bhi hai. Kab sunaa
hee nahi. Abhi arth sahit tum samajhtey ho..Yahaan toh wonder hai-
baap, teacher, satguru sab ek hee hai. Baap kahtey hain, mai saath
lay chaloonga." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised sakar murli taareekh01.09.05, page 2)
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki yahaan Baap, Teacher, Satguru ek
hee hai. Brahma Baba kay dwara maa ka part to bajaaya gaya
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lekin Baap ke roop may varsa deney ka part, teacher ke roop
may hamaari Geeta arthaat murliyon ka clarification deney ka
part aur satguru ke roop may mukti-jeevanmukti deney ka part
to nahi bajaa. Fir kya yah teenon part ek dwara bajaaney ka
kaarya kisi aur tan dwara chalega? Baba kah rahey hain ki vay
hamey saath lay jaayengey. Lekin Brahma Baba toh kisi ko saath
lekar hee nahi gaye. Fir saath lay jaaney ka part kya kisi aur
dwara chalega?
"Father is truth. He is a true teacher also, Satguru (true
preceptor) too. It was never heard of. Now you understand
meaningfully. .. Here it is a wonder Father, Teacher and Satguru
all are one only. Father says I will take you along with me.
(Revised sakar murli dated 01.09.05, page 2 published by BKs)
- Baba is telling that here Father, Teacher and Satguru are all
in one. There is no doubt that a mothers role was played
through Brahma Baba, but the role of giving inheritance as a
father, giving clarifications of our Geeta, i.e. murlis as a
teacher and granting mukti (salvation) and jeevanmukti (true
salvation) as a Satguru was not played. Then, will the task of
playing all these three roles through one be fulfilled through
some other human body? Baba is telling that he will take us
along with him. But Brahma Baba did not take anyone along with
him. Then will the role of taking along with Him be played
through some other personality?
MURALI POINTS 38 (PRAJAPITA PBKS)
"Tum toh ho sena. Tumhaara naam hee hai Prajapita Brahmakumar-
kumariyan (PBKs), koi bhi andar aaye, pehley-pehley toh ye poocho ki
kahaan say aaye ho? Kiskey paas aaye ho? Kahengey ham BK kay paas
aaye hain. Achha Brahma kaun hai? Prajapita Brahma ka naam kabhi
suna hai? Haan Prajapita kay toh tum bhi bachhey ho. Praja toh sab
ho gaye na. Tumhaara baap hai, tum sirf jaantey nahi ho. Brahma bhi
jaroor kisi ka bachha hoga na." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised sakar
murli taareekh 03.09.05, page 2)- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki tumhaara naam hee hai PBK, lekin
Brahmakumari ashram may toh sab apney ko BKs kahlaatey hain.
Kya unhay PBKs nahi kahna chaahiye?
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki Praja toh sab ho gaye na, maana
saari duniya. BKs Dada Lekhraj ko Prajapita Brahma kahtey
hain, lekin unkay jeevan kaal may toh keval kuch aatmaon nay
unhay Prajapita Brahma sweekaar kiya. Toh fir kya Prajapita ka
part bajaaney vaali aatma Brahma Dada lekhraj say alag hai?
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki Brahma bhi jaroor kiska bachha hoga
na. Hum sabhi murliyon kay aadhaar par jaantey hain ki Brahma
Baba ko lambey samay tak saakshaatkaron kay arth ka pata nahi
chala. Jis vyakti may pravesh kar Baba nay Brahma Baba ko
saakshatkaaron ka arth samjhaaya, kya Baba usee vyakti kayliye kah rahey hain ki Brahma bhi jaroor kiska bachha hoga na?
"You are the army. Your name is Prajapita Brahmakumar-kumaris. If
anyone comes inside, first of all ask them, Where have you come
from? Whom have you come to meet? They will say, We have come to
meet B.K (Brahmakumar). O.K. Who is Brahma? Have you ever heard the
name of Prajapita Brahma? Yes, you are also children of Prajapita.
Praja (subjects) includes everyone, isnt it? He is your father.
Only thing is that you dont know him. Brahma is also certainly
somebodys child, isnt it? (Revised sakar murli dated 03.09.05,
page 2 published by BKs)
- Baba is telling that your name is PBK, but the members of
Brahmakumari organization call themselves BKs. Should theyalso be called PBKs?
- Baba is telling that Praja (subjects) includes everyone, i.e.
the entire world. BKs call Dada Lekhraj as Prajapita Brahma,
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but he was accepted as Prajapita Brahma only by a few souls
during his lifetime. So is the soul which plays the role of
Prajapita different from Brahma Dada Lekhraj?
- Baba is telling that Brahma is also certainly somebodys
child. On the basis of murlis we all know that Brahma Baba
could not understand the meanings of divine visions caused to
him for a long time. Is Baba referring to the person, through
whom He clarified the meanings of divine visions caused to
Brahma by telling above that Brahma is also certainly
somebodys child?
MURALI POINTS 39 (INDIVIDUL SERVICE FORMS)
"Tumhaarey paas koi bhi aatey hain toh unko alag-alag samjhaao,
Karachi may ek-ek ko alag-alag baith samjhaatey thay. . Isliye Baba
kahtey hain alag-alag bithaao, fir samjhaao. Form bharaao toh
maaloom padega, kyunki koi kisko maan-ney vaala hoga, koi kisko.
Sabko ikathha kaisey samjhaayengey. Apni-apni baat sunaaney lag
padengey. Pehley-pehley toh poochna chaahiye kahaan aaye ho? BK ka
naam suna hai? Prajapita Brahma tumhaara kya lagta hai? Kabhi naam
sunaa hai? Tum Prajapita Brahma kee santaan nahi ho? Hum toh
practical may hain. Ho tum bhi, parantu samajhtey nahi ho.
Samjhaaney kee badee yukti chaahiye." (BKs dwara prakaashit revisedsakar murli taareekh 05.09.05, page 3 & 4)
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki ek-ek ko alag-alag bithakar
samjhaana chaahiye aur form bharvaaya jaana chaahiye. Kya BKs
dwara aisa kiya jaata hai ?
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki aaney vaalon ko samjhaao ki ham toh
practical may Prajapita Brahma ki santaan hain. Lekin BKs toh
kahtey hain ki Prajapita Brahma sookshma vatan may hai. Toh
fir ham apney ko practically Prajapita Brahma ki santaan
kaisey kahla saktey hain?
"Whoever comes to you, explain them individually. At Karachi, they
used to explain each individually. .. That is why Baba says, Make
them sit separately and then explain. Get the form filled up. Thenyou will know (their views), because somebody believes in someone
and somebody in someone else. How will you explain everyone
collectively? They start expressing their individual views. First of
all they should be asked, Where have you come? Have you heard the
name of B.K.? What is your relationship with Prajapita Brahma? Have
you ever heard his name? Are you not the child of Prajapita Brahma?
We are his children practically. You are also children, but you do
not realize that. One needs toexplain tactfully. (Revised sakar
murli dated 05.09.05,page 3 & 4 published by BKs)
- Baba is asking us to explain individually and to get the form
filled up. Are the BKs doing that?
- Baba is asking us to explain the visitors that we are the
children of Prajapita Brahma practically. But BKs say thatPrajapita Brahma is in the subtle world. So how can we call
ourselves to be the children of Prajapita Brahma practically?
MURALI POINTS 40 (TRUE TRIMURTHY)
"Yah Lakshmi Narayan ka chitra toh bahut achha hai. Ismay sirf
likhna hai ek hee satya Trimurty Shivbaba, Satya Trimurty Shiv
Teacher, Satya Trimurty Shiv Guru. Trimurty akshar nahi likhengey
toh samjhengey parmaatma toh niraakaar hai, vah teacher kaisey ho
sakta hai. ." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised sakar murli taareekh
06.09.05, page 2)
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki Trimurty akshar jaroor likhna hai,
jabki BKs adhiktar karyakramon aur parchon may Trimurty chitra
aur akshar ka upyog nahi kar rahey hain. Kya Satya Trimurty
Shivbaba kay sthaan par Trimurty Dadiyon ko pratyaksh karna
Shrimat ke anusaar hai?
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- BKs dwara prakaashit Trimurty kay chitra may Brahma ke sthaan
par toh Dada Lekhraj ka chitra dikhaaya gaya hai, lekin
Shankar aur Vishnu ka part kahaan bajaaya jaa raha hai?
- BKs toh kahtey hain ki Shivbaba toh Paramdhaam may hain. Toh
fir Parmatma Satya Trimurty Shivbaba, Teacher aur Guru ka part
kahaan bajaa rahey hain?
"This picture of Lakshmi Narayan is very good. It must only be
written in it True Trimurty Shivbaba, True Trimurty Shiv Teacher,
True Trimurty Shiv Guru. If you dont write the word Trimurty then
they will think that Shiv is incorporeal, how can he be a teacher.
(Revised sakar murli dated 06.09.05, page 2 published by BKs)
- Baba is telling that the word Trimurty should certainly be
written, while BKs are not using the picture of Trimurty or
the word in most of the programmes or pamphlets. Is it in
accordance with Shrimat to reveal Trimurty Dadis instead of
True Trimurty Shivbaba?
- In the picture of Trimurty published by BKs the picture of
Dada Lekhraj has been shown in the place of Brahma, but who
plays the role of Shankar and Vishnu?
- BKs say that Shivbaba is in Paramdham. Then where is Baba
playing the role of True Trimurty Shivbaba, Teacher and Guru?
MURALI POINTS 41 (DIRECTION THROUGH BODY)
"Chitra bhi hain, koi say poochana chaahiye Gita ka Bhagwaan kaun
hai? Mukhya baat hee yah hai. Bhagwaan toh ek hee hota hai, jis say
varsa milta hai muktidhaam ka. .... Gaayan bhi hai na jo
khilaayengey, jahaan bithaayengey, jo direction dengey vah karengey.
Direction toh jaroor tan dwara hee dengey na." (BKs dwara prakaashit
revised sakar murli taareekh 19.09.05, page 4)
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki Bhagwaan toh ek hee hota hai, jis
say varsa milta hai muktidhaam ka. Yadi Dada Lekhraj Brahma ko
hee Bhagwaan ka roop maan lein toh fir unsay mukti-jeevanmukti
ka varsa toh nahi mila, fir vah ek roop kaunsa hai jis say
mukti/jeevanmukti ka varsa milta hai?- Baba kah rahey hain ki directions toh jaroor tan dwara hee
dengey na. Brahma Baba ke samay toh har kadam par directions
miltey thay, lekin ab har kadam par directions kahaan say mil
saktey hain? Gulzar Dadi ji ke dwara toh saal ke kuch nishchit
dinon par keval kuch samay ke liye Avyakta Vani chalti hai, jo
ki general directions hotay hain, na ki kisi vishesh
paristhiti ya vyakti ya samooh vishesh ke liye. Toh fir aisey
directions Shivbaba kis dwara aur kahaan dey rahey hain?
"Pictures are also available. You must ask anyone who is the God of
Gita? The main issue itself is this. God is only one, from whom we
get the inheritance of muktidhaam(abode of salvation)...... There
is even a song, isnt itwhatever you feed, wherever you ask me to
sit, what ever directions you give me I will follow.Directions will
definitely be given through a body, isnt it? (Revised sakar murli
dated 19.09.05, page 4 published by BKs)
- Baba is telling that God is only one, from whom we get the
inheritance of muktidhaam (abode of salvation). If Dada
Lekhraj Brahma is considered to be the only corporeal form of
God, then we have not obtained the inheritance of
salvation/true salvation from him. Then which is that only
form through whom we get the inheritance of salvation/true
salvation?
- Baba is telling that directions will be certainly given
through a body. During the lifetime of Brahma Baba directions
used to be received at every step, but how can we get
directions at every step now? The Avyakta Vanis are narrated
only on a few fixed dates for some time. They are general
directions and not for a particular circumstance or individual
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or group. So through whom and where are such directions being
issued by Shivbaba?
MURALI POINTS 42 (NOTHING CAN BE DONE THROUGH INSPIRATION)
"Abhi tum jaantey ho hamaara Baba aaya hua hai inmay. Is shareeer ki
apni aatma bhi hai, fir Parampita Parmatma kahtey hain - mai inkay
rath par viraajmaan hoon. Isliye Bapdada kahtey ho. Ab Dada ko toh
in aankhon say dekhtey ho, Baap ko nahi dekhtey ho. Jaantey ho Baba
gyan ka saagar hai, vah is shareeer dwara hamko gyaan sunaa raheyhain. Vah gyaan ka saagar patit-paavan hai. Niraakaar raasta kaisey
bataayengey? Prerana say toh koi kaam nahi hota. Bhagwaan aatey
hain, yah kisko bhi pata nahi hai. Shivjayanti bhi manaatey hain,
toh jaroor yahaan aata hoga na. Tum jaantey ho abhi vah hamko padha
rahey hain." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised sakar murli taareekh
22.09.05, page 2)
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki prerana say toh koi kaam hota nahi.
Unko jaroor yahaan aakar gyaan sunaana padta hai. BKs toh
kahtey hain ki niraakaar Shiv Brahma dwara kuch varshon ke
liye gyaan sunaakar vaapas Paramdhaam chaley gaye hain. Agar
niraakaar Shiv ko Paramdhaam may baith kar prerana say hee
gyaan dena hota toh fir kuch varshon ke liye neechey aaney ki
jaroorat kya thi?- Baba kah rahey hain ki voh hamko gyaan suna rahey hain, padha
rahey hain. Toh voh kahaan gyaan sunaa rahey hain?
"Now you know that our Baba has come in him. This body has its own
soul, and then the Supreme Father Supreme Soul says I am sitting
in his chariot. That is why you say Bapdada. Now you see Dada
through these eyes; you do not see Bap. You know that Baba is ocean
of knowledge. He is narrating knowledge to us through this body. He
is ocean of knowledge and purifier of the sinful. How can the
incorporeal show the path? Nothing can be done through inspiration.
Nobody knows that God comes. Shivjayanti (birthday of Shiv) is also
celebrated. So certainly he must be coming here, isnt it? You know
that He is now teaching us. (Revised sakar murli dated 22.09.05,page 2 published by BKs)
- Baba is telling that nothing can be done through inspiration.
He has to certainly come here and give knowledge. BKs say that
the incorporeal Shiv narrated knowledge through Brahma for
some time and then went back to Paramdham. If the incorporeal
Shiv had to give knowledge from Paramdham itself then why was
it necessary for him to enter into him by descending on the
earth?
- Baba is telling that he is narrating knowledge and teaching us
now. So where is He giving knowledge?
MURALI POINTS 43 (SITTING AND REMEBERING)
"Baba ko toh ghadi-ghadi yaad karna hai. Neshtha may ek jagah
baithney kee baat nahi. Chaltey-firtey yaad karna hai. Train may bhi
tum service kar saktey ho. Tum koi ko bhi samjha saktey ho ki oonch
tay oonch kaun hai? Unko yaad karo. Varsa unsay hee milega." (BKs
dwara prakaashit revised sakar murli taareekh 01.10.05, page 3)
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki neshtha may ek jagar baithney kee
baat nahi. Lekin BKs toh adhiktar ek jagah baith kar yaad
karney ki practice karvaatey hain, vah bhi dehdhaariyon say
drishti ka len-den kartey huay. Kya yah shrimat ke anuroop
hai?
- Baba kah rahey hain ki Unko yaad karo. Varsa Unsaymilega.
Jab Shivbaba Brahma kay tan may baith yah baat kah rahey hain
toh fir Unko (oonch tay oonch ko) yaad karney ke liye kyun
kah rahey hain? Kya Oonch tay oonch is srishti par sabhi
dharmapitaon ki aatmaon ki upathiti may is prithvi par hoga ya
fir sookshma vatan may?
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"One must remember Baba every second. It is not a question of
sitting in faith (neshtha)at one place. One must be in remembrance
even while walking and moving. You can do service even in the train.
You can explain anyone that who is the greatest among all. Remember
Him. The inheritance will be obtained from Him only. (Revised sakar
murli dated 01.10.05, page 3 published by BKs)
- Baba is telling thatit is not a matter of sitting in neshtha
at one place. But BKs generally enable us to practice sitting
at one place and remember Baba while taking drishti from human
beings? Is it in accordance with Shrimat?
- Baba is asking us to remember Him and that the inheritance
will be obtained from Him only. If Shivbaba is speaking the
above versions sitting in the body of Brahma, then why is He
asking the children to remember Him, the highest among all?
Will the Highest among all be proved on this earth when
souls of all the religious fathers are present or will it be
proved in the subtle world?
MURALI POINTS 44 (DOES FATHER DIE?)
"Baap aaya fir chalaa jaayega. Unkay liye aisey thodey hee kahengey
ki mar gaya. Jaisey Shivanand kay liye kahengey shareer chod diyafir kriyakarma kartey hain. Yah Baap chalaa jaayega toh inka
kriyakarma, ceremony aadi kuch bhi nahi karna hota. Unkay toh aaney
kaa bhi pataa nahi padta. Kriyakarma aadi kee toh baat hee nahi hai.
Aur sab manushyon ka kriyakarma kartey hain. Baap ka kriyakarma hota
nahi, unko shareeer hee nahi. Sab manushya sarson misal peeskar
khalaas ho jaatey hain." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised sakar murli
taareekh 04.10.05, page 2)
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki Baap ke liye toh aisey thodey hee
kahengey ki mar gaya. Lekin BKs jis Brahma Baba ko Bhagwaan
kay ekmaatra saakaar swaroop kay roop may dikhaatey hain, voh
toh shareeer chod chukay hain aur unka kriyakarma bhi kiya
gaya? Toh kya Brahma ke dwara keval maa ka part chala? Fir
pita ka part, jo ki avinaashi hai vah kahaan chal raha hai?- Yadi ham kahein ki ukta point may Baap shabda niraakaar
jyotibindu Shiv ke liye kaha gaya hai toh fir Kalpa Vriksha ke
chitra may globe ke oopar Shankar ko baithey huay kyun dikhaya
hai jabki sabhi aatmaen paramdhaam jaa rahi hai. Kya Shiv
Shankar hee Bhagwaan ka avinaashi roop toh nahi jisay shareeer
chodtey huay koi manushyatma nahi dekh paati?
- BKs kahtey hain ki Gulzar Dadiji may Shiv kee praveshata hoti
hai aur unki praveshata ka kaaryakram kayi maheenon pehley say
ban jaata hai aur Gulzar Dadi kay shareeer may jhatkey ke
saath praveshata hoti hai jis say bhi praveshata ka pata chal
jaata hai. Lekin Baba kah rahey hain ki unkay toh aaney kaa
bhi pataa nahi padta. Toh fir Gulzar Dadi may keval
manushyatma arthaat Brahma kee praveshata hoti hai ya Shiv keebhi?
"Father has come and will depart. It cannot be said that he is dead.
For e.g. it wouldbe said for Shivanand that he left his body; then
they perform the last rites. When this father departs then there
will not be any necessity to perform his last rites, (funeral)
ceremony etc. One does not even know about his arrival. There is no
question of performing the last rites at all. Last rites are
performed for all other human beings. Last rites cannot be performed
for Father. He does not have a physical body at all. All the human
beings get destroyed after being crushed like the mustard seeds.
(Revised sakar murli dated 04.10.05, page 2 published by BKs)
-Baba is telling that it cannot be said that he is dead. ButBrahma Baba, whom BKs reveal as the only corporeal medium of
God, has left his body and his last rites were also performed.
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through Brahma? Then where is the fathers role being played,
which is indestructible?
- If we say that in the above murli point the word Father has
been used only for the incorporeal point of light Shiv. Then
in that case, why has the picture of Shankar been shown
sitting on a globe within the picture of World Tree (Kalpa
Vriksha)? Is Shiv Shankar the indestructible form of God, whom
no other human soul is able to observe leaving his body?
- BKs tell that Shiv enters into Gulzar Dadi aur the programme
of his entry is fixed many months earlier. Even the entry into
Gulzar Dadi takes place with a jerk, which also indicates the
entry. But Baba is telling that one does not even know about
his arrival. Then does only a human soul, i.e. Brahma enters
into Gulzar Dadi or is it Shiv also?
MURALI POINTS 45 (FAITH BASED ON DIVINE VISIONS)
"Mera hee part hai saakshaatkaar karaaney ka. Saakshaatkaar honay
say kitna khush ho jaatey hain. Milta kuch bhi nahi....Meera ko
saakshaatkaar hua. Parantu mukti ko thoday hee paaya. Manushya
samajhtey hain vah rahtee hee vaikunth may thee. Parantu vaikunth
Krishnapuri hai kahaan. Yah sab hai sakshaatkaar. Baap baith sab
baatein samjhaatey rahtey hain. Inko bhi pehley - pehley Vishnu kasaakshaatkaar hua toh bahut khush ho gaya. Vah bhi jab dekha ki mai
Maharaja banta hoon. Vinaash bhi dekha fir raajaai ka bhi dekha tab
nishchay baitha oho! Mai toh vishwa ka maalik banta hoon."(BKs dwara
prakaashit revised sakar murli taareekh 4.10.05,pg 4)
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki Brahma Baba ko toh sakshaatkaar
honay ke baad hi nishchay baitha aur khushi hui. Baba yah bhi
kah rahey hain ki saakshaatkaar say milta kuch bhi nahi hai.
Atah kaun adhik shreshtha partdhaari hoga, gaayan aur poojan
yogya hoga jisay saakshaatkaar ke aadhaar par nishchay aur
khushi ho ya jisnay keval gyaan ke teesrey netra say Shivbaba
ke part ko pehchaana hai?
"It is only my part to cause divine visions. How happy people becomewhen they experience divine visions! They dont gain anything at
all.......Meera also had divine visions. But she did not get any
salvation. Human beings think that she was residing in Vaikunth
only. But where is Vaikunth, the abode of Krishna? All these are
visions. Father sits and explains all these matters. When he (i.e.
Brahma Baba) also had the divine vision of Vishnu initially, then he
felt very happy. That too, when he saw that I am going to become
Maharaja. He saw destruction as well as kingdom. Then he developed
faith. Oho! I become the master of the world. (Revised sakar murli
dated 04.10.05, page 4 published by BKs)
- Baba is telling that Brahma Baba developed faith and became
happy only after he had divine visions. Baba is also telling
that nothing can be gained from divine visions. Hence, whoplays a greater role and who is more worshipworthy and
praiseworthy the one, who develops faith and becomes happy
on the basis of divine visions or the one, who recognizes
Shivbaba only through the third eye of knowledge?
MURALI POINTS 46 (IMPORTANCE OF CORPOREAL MEDIUM)
"Baap kee raay par chalney may hee kalyaan hai. Apna bhi kalyaan
karna hai. Koi ko worth pound banaa nahi saktey hain toh worth
not a penny thahrey na. Pound ban-ney laayak nahin. Yahaan value
nahin toh vahaan bhi value nahin rahegi. Serviceable bachhon ko
service ka kitna shauk rahta hai. Chakra lagaatey rahtey hain.
Service nahi kartey toh unko rahamdil, kalyaankaari kuch bhi nahin
kahengey. Baba ko yaad nahee kartey toh tuchh kaam kartey hongey.
Pad bhi tuchh payengey. Aisey nahin, hamaara toh Shivbaba say yog
hai. Yah toh hai hee BK. Shivbaba Brahma dwara hee gyaan dey saktey
hain. Sirf Shivbaba ko yaad karengey toh murli kaisey sunengey? Fir
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nateeja kya hoga? Padhengey nahi toh pad kyaa payengey?" (BKs dwara
prakaashit revised sakar murli taareekh 17.09.05, pg 3 & 4)
- BKs toh kahtey hain ki 1969 say Shivbaba vaapas Paramdhaam
chaley gaye hain, isliye Shivbaba ko jyotibindu ke roop may
vaheen yaad karna hai. Lekin Baba toh kah rahey hain ki Sirf
Shivbaba ko yaad karengey toh murli kaisey sunengey? Kya BKs
Gulzar Dadi dwara Shiv ko yaad kartey hain, jinhay vay
Paramatma Shiv ka maadhyam maantey hain?
- BKs toh kahtey hain ki Shivbaba 1969 say Gulzar Dadi dwara
gyaan suna rahey hain. Lekin Baba toh kah rahey hain ki
Shivbaba Brahma dwara hee gyaan dey saktey hain. Fir kya
Gulzar Dadiji ko Brahma kaha jaata hai? Yadi nahi kahtey toh
fir unkay dwara gyaan sunaaney vaali aatma Shiv hai ya keval
Brahma?
"Benefit lies only in following the advice of father. One must also
uplift himself. If children cannot make anyone worth pound, then
they themselves remain worth not a penny, isnt it? They are not
capable of becoming pound. If there is no value here, then there
will not be any value there. Serviceable children have so much
interest in doing service! They keep on visiting places. If they do
not do service, then they cannot be called merciful, benefactor. If
they do not remember Baba, then they must be doing useless things.
Even the post that they get will be valueless.One should not think
that Our yog (link) is only with Shivbaba (i.e. point of light).
They are BKs only. Shivbaba can give knowledge through Brahma only.
If you remember only Shivbaba, then how will you listen to murli?
Then what will be the result? If you dont study, then which post
will you achieve? (Revised sakar murli dated 17.09.05, page 3 & 4
published by BKs)
- BKs say that Shivbaba has returned to the soul world in 1969
and that we must remember Him as a point of light in the soul
world. But Baba is telling that if you remember only Shivbaba,
then how will you listen to murli? Do BKs remember Supreme
Soul Shiv through Gulzar Dadi, whom they consider to be the
medium of God?
- BKs say that Shivbaba is narrating knowledge through Gulzar
Dadi since 1969. But Baba is telling above that Shivbaba can
give knowledge only through Brahma. Then is Gulzar Dadi called
as Brahma? If she is not called Brahma, then is the soul
narrating knowledge through her Shiv or only Brahma?
MURALI POINTS 47 (EXPERIENCE SOUL WORLD HERE)
"Shanti aur ashaanti kee baat yahaan vishwa par hee hoti hai. Vah
toh hai hee nirvaandhaam, jahaan shaanti-ashaanti ka prashna hee
nahi uth sakta hai." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised sakar murli
taareekh 21.09.05, pg 1)
-BKs toh buddhi say Paramdhaam may jaakar jyotibindu Shiv koyaad karney aur shaanti ka anubhav karney ka abhyaas kartey
hain. Lekin Baba toh ukta murli may kah rahey hain ki oopar
nirvaandhaam may shaanti-ashaanti ka prashna hee nahi uth
sakta hai. Toh kya buddhi ko Paramdhaam may tikaakar shaanti
ka anubhav karna ya jyotibindu ko yaad karna theek hai?
"The question of peace and peacelessness is applicable here in this
world only. That is nirvaandhaam(soul world), where the question of
peace or peacelessness does not arise at all. (Revised sakar murli
dated 21.09.05, page 1 published by BKs)
- BKs practice experiencing peace and remembering the point of
light Shiv by taking their intellect to the soul world. But
Baba is telling that the question of peace or peacelessnessdoes not arise in the soul world above at all. So, is the
method of experiencing peace or remembering the point of light
by focusing the intellect on the soul world correct?
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MURALI POINTS 48 (TRIMURTHY STAMP)
"Jis-jis kee raajaai may jis oonch purush kee past kee history achhi
hoti hai, toh unki stamp bhi banaatey hain. Ab Shiv kee jayanti bhi
manaatey hain. Samjhaana chahiye sabsey oonch jayanti kiski hui?
Kiski stamp banaani chaahiye? Koi saadhu-sant athava Sikhon ka,
Musalmaanon ka va Angrezon ka, koi Philosopher achha hoga toh unki
stamp banaatey rahtey hain. Jaisey Rana Prataap aadi kee bhi
banaatey hain. Ab vaastav may stamp honi chaahiye Baap kee, jo sabka
sadgati daata hai. Sabsey oonch tay oonch hai Shivbaba, patitpaavan..Stamp bhi Shivbaba kee kaisey banaaen? Bhaktimarg may toh
Shivling banaatey hain. Vahee oonch tay oonch aatma thahrey. ..
Manushyon ko jab poora gyaan ho tab arth sahit stamp nikley. Satyug
may stamp nikalti hee in Lakshmi-Narayan kee hai. Shivbaba ka gyaan
toh vahaan rahta nahi. Toh jaooor oonch tay oonch Lakshmi Narayan
kee hee stamp lagti hogi. Abhi bhi Bharat ka vah stamp hona chahiye.
Oonch tay oonch hai Trimurty Shiv." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised
sakar murli taareekh 23.09.05, pg 1 & 2)
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki stamp toh oonch tay oonch Trimurty
Shiv ya fir oonch tay oonch Lakshmi Narayan ki honi chaahiye.
Lekin BKs nay jab 1994 may stamp nikalvaaya toh usmay sirf
Dada Lekhraj ka chehra dikhaaya gaya tha. Kya vah stamp
Shrimat ke anusaar tha?- Kya Satyug may sthool chitthiyan bhejney ki jaroorat hogi jo
us par sthool stamp bhi lagaani padey?
"In whichever kingdom, whichever person has a good history in the
past, then stamps are also released in their commemoration. Now, the
birthday of Shiv is also celebrated. It must be explained, Whose
birthday is the highest? Whose stamp must be prepared? If a monk or
saint or a philosopher of Sikhs, Muslims or Englishmen is good (i.e.
famous), then they go on making their stamps. For e.g. stamps of
Rana Pratap etc; are also prepared. Now actually stamp should be of
Father, who bestows salvation upon everyone. Greatestamong all is
Shivbaba, the purifier of the sinful. .. How can the stamp of
Shivbaba be prepared? In the path of worship Shivlings are prepared.He only is supposed to be the greatest among all souls. .. When the
human beings get complete knowledge, then they will release the
meaningful stamp. In the Golden Age, stamps of these Lakshmi and
Narayan are only released. Awareness about Shivbaba will not be
there (in the Golden Age). So certainly the stamp of the greatest
among all, i.e. Lakshmi and Narayan only must have been in use. Even
now that should be Indias stamp. Greatest among all is Trimurty
Shiv. (Revised sakar murli dated 23.09.05, page 1&2 published by
BKs)
- Baba is telling that the stamps should be of the highest among
all, i.e. Trimurty Shiv or the highest among all, i.e. Lakshmi
& Narayan. But when the BKs got a postal stamp released in
1994, it contained the portrait of Dada Lekhraj only. Was itaccording to Babas Shrimat?
- Will there be any necessity to affix stamps on letters in the
Golden Age?
MURALI POINTS 49 (RADHA KRISHNA SAME KINGDOM OR DIFFERENT)
"Aajkal kahtey hain, ek raajya, ek dharma, ek bhasha ho. One caste,
one religion, one God. Ab Government likhti bhi hai, one God hai,
fir sarvavyaapi kyon kahtey hain? One God toh koi maanta hee nahi
hai. Toh ab tumko fir yah likhna hai." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised
sakar murli taareekh 05.09.05, pg 4)
"Bhaaratwaasiyon ko yah pataa nahi hai ki Radhey-Krishna aapas may
kya lagtey thay. Dono hee alag-alag raajaai kay thay. Fir swayamvar
baad Lakshmi-Narayan bantey hain. Yah sab baatein Baap hee aakar
samjhaatey hain." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised sakar murli taareekh
07.10.05, pg 3)
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- Oopar ullikhit dono murli points ek doosrey say tally nahi
hotay hain. Ek murli may Baba kah rahey hain ki ek dharma, ek
raajya hona chaahiye. Aur doosrey murli point may Baba kah
rahey hain ki Radha aur Krishna alag-alag raajaai kay thay.
Kya sachmuch may Satyug may do raajya hotay hain? Yadi aisa
hai toh fir Baba aisey kyon kah rahey hain ki Bhaaratwaasiyon
ko yah pataa nahi ki Radhey-Krishna aapas may kya lagtey thay?
Kya dono ek hee raajai vaaley maa-baap kee santaan thay?
"Now a days people say that there should be one kingdom, one
religion and one language. One caste, one religion, one God. Now
Government also writes, God is one, then why is God called
omnipresent? Nobody considers God to be one at all. So now you must
write this again. (Revised sakar murli dated 05.09.05, page 4
published by BKs)
"Indians do not know what was the relationship between Radha and
Krishna? Both belonged to different kingdoms. Then after engagement,
they become Lakshmi and Narayan. Father only comes and explains all
these matters. (Revised sakar murli dated 07.10.05, page34
published by BKs)
- Both the murli points mentioned above do not tally with each
other. In one murli Bab ais telling that there should be onereligion, one kingdom. And in another murli point Baba is
telling that Radha and Krishna belong to different kingdoms.
Were there really two kingdoms in the Golden Age? If so, then
why is Baba telling that the Indians do not know what was the
relationship between Radha and Krishna? Were they children of
the same parents belonging to the same kingdom?
MURALI POINTS 50 (LIVING AND NON-LIVING PICTURES)
"Mandiron may bhi Aadi Dev ka chitra hai na. Tum vahaan jaayengey
toh samjhengey yah toh hamara yaadgaar hai. Baba bhi baithey hain,
ham bhi baithey hain. Yahaan Baap chaitanya may baithey hain, vahaan
jad chitra rakhey hain. Oopar may swarga bhi theek hai, jinhonay
mandir dekha hai, vah jaantey hain ki Baba hamko ab chaitanya mayRajyog sikha rahey hain." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised sakar murli
taareekh 05.09.05, pg 2)
- Baba toh kah rahey hain ki yahaan Baap chaitanya may baithey
hain, vahaan jad chitra rakhey hain. Yadi Mt. Abu sthit
Madhuban may Baap chaitanya may baith Rajyog sikha rahey hain
toh fir kya vahaan Brahma, Saraswati, Didi, Dadiyon, aur anya
BKs ke chitra pradarshit karna aavashyak ya theek hai? Kya yah
bhaktimarg nahi ho gaya? Kya Madhuban ke jad chitra is baat
kee ore ishaara nahi kartey ki chaitanya may Baap kahin aur
Rajyog sikha raha hai, jahaan Maa-Baap ya bachhon ke jad
chitra nahi lagaaye jaatey hain?
"In the temples also there are pictures of Aadi-Dev (the firstdeity) isnt it? When you go there (to the Dilwara Temple) you will
feel that it is our reminder (yaadgaar). Baba is also sitting; we
are also sitting. Here Father is sitting alive, and there, inert
pictures have been kept. The heaven above (engraved on the ceiling
of Dilwara temple) is also correct. Those who have seen the temple
know that Baba is now teaching us Rajyog alive. (Revised sakar
murli dated 05.09.05, page 2 published by BKs)
- Baba is telling that here Father is sitting alive and there,
non-living pictures have been kept. If Father is sitting alive
in the Madhuban situated at Mt. Abu and is teaching Rajyog,
then is it necessary or correct to display the non-living
pictures of Brahma, Saraswati, Didi, Dadis and other BKs? Is
it not like following the path of worship? Dont the non-living pictures at Madhuban point towards the fact that Father
is teaching Rajyog alive somewhere else, where the non-living
pictures are not displayed?
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