L-3 Communications (LLL) Earnings Report: Q4 2015 ... · We also divested climate Associates a...
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CompanyName:L-3CommunicationsHoldingsIncCompanyTicker:LLLSector:IndustrialGoodsIndustry:Aerospace/Defense
EventDescription:Q42015EarningsCallMarketCapasofEventDate:8.64BPriceasofEventDate:111.98
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L-3Communications(LLL)EarningsReport:Q42015ConferenceCallTranscriptThefollowingL-3CommunicationsconferencecalltookplaceonJanuary28,2016,11:00AMET.Thisisatranscriptofthatearningscall:
CompanyPart icipants
MahmoudSiddig;JoeleFrank;ManagingDirectorMichaelStrianesee;L-3Communications;ChairmanCEORalphDAmbrosio;L-3Communications;SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer
OtherPart icipants
CaivonRumohr;CowenandCompany;AnalystRobertSpingarn;CreditSuisse;AnalystMylesWalton;DeutscheBank;AnalystSethSeifman;J.P.Morgan;AnalystRobertStallard;RoyalBankofCanada;AnalystCarterCopeland;Barclays;AnalystRichardSafran;BuckinghamResearch;AnalystHowardRubel;Jefferies;AnalystGeorgeShapiro;ShapiroResearch;Analyst
MANAGEMENTDISCUSSIONSECTION
Operator :
GooddayandwelcometotheL-3Communicationsfourthquarter,fullyear2015conferencecall.Allparticipantswillbeinalistenonlymode.Shouldyouneedoperatorassistancepleasepressstarzero.Aftertoday'spresentationtherewillopportunitiestoaskquestions.Toaskaquestionyoumaypressstarthenoneonyourtouchtonephone.Towithdrawyourquestion,pleasepressthepoundkey.
Pleasenotethiseventisbeingrecorded.
IwouldliketoturntheconferenceovertoMahmoudSiddig,pleasegoahead.
MahmoudSiddig (ManagingDirector):
Thankyou.
GoodmorningandthanksforjoiningusforL-3'sfourth-quarterearningsconferencecall.
WithmeareMichaelStrianesee,ChairmanandChiefExecutiveOfficerandRalphDAmbrosioSeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer.
AftertheirformalremarksManagementwillbeavailabletotakeyourquestions.
Pleasenotethatduringthiscommentwillreiterateforlookingstatementsaremadeinthepressreleaseissuedthismorning.
PleaserefertothispressreleaseaswellastheCompany'sSECfilingsforamoredetaileddescriptionof
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thefactorsthatmaycauseactualresultstodiffermateriallyfromthoseanticipated.
PleasealsonotethatthiscallisbeingsimultaneouslybroadcastovertheInternet.
IwouldnowliketoturnthecallovertoMikethatMichaelMichaelStrianesee.Mike,pleasegoahead.
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
Thankyouandgoodmorningeveryone.
Thequarterreflectedourcontinuedfocusonsuccessfullyreshapingourportfolio,expandingmargins,enhancingourmanagementTeamandreturningourtoplinetogrowth.
ThebiggestactionwasthesaleofNSSInternationalfor$550millionincash.WearepleasedwiththatpricewhichrepresentsanattractiveEBITDAmultipleweexpectthesaleofNSStoclosenextweekandhavereportedNSSasadiscontinuedoperationinourfourth-quarterandfull-yearresults.
WealsodivestedclimateAssociatesasmallsidescansonarbusinessduringthequarter.
Theseactionsreflectourcommitmenttorepositioningourportfolio;improveourfinancialperformancebyfocusingonourcoredefenseelectronicsmedicationsandISRmarkets;wherewehaveleadingpositionsandstrongtechnicaldiscriminators.
Aswecontinuetoimproveevaluatepotentialacquisitionsandfurtherdivestitures,we'retakingmarketconsiderationsmarketconditionsintoconsiderationconsistentwithbestpractices.There'sanumberofkeyfactorsthatgointoourdecision-makingprocessincludingreturnoncapitalandimprovementofL-3'scompetitorposition.
Bothwillmakeisbetterequippedtocreatevalueforshareholdersaswellascustomers.
Inthequarterinfortheyearasawhole,wehadstrongperformanceonare-competesandprogramexecutionacrossourbusiness.Iwentthankallofouremployeesaroundtheworldfortheircontributionsandfortheircontinuingsupporttodeliverthebestwehaveforcustomers.
Thesethingsareprogressingwellfromanoperationalstandpoint.ChrisKubasikisadvancingourstrategicplanandoperations.Specificallyhe'sfocusingonimprovingourmarginonorganicgrowthprofilesincoordinationwithoursegmentpresidentsastheycontinuetorestructurebusinessunits.He'sidentifyingopportunitiesforconsolidation;includingandsupplychainandbackofficeoperationshe'salsoactivelyengagedinourportfolioshapingaswell.
Wearealreadyseeingbenefitsfromourrefinedstrategy.Marginsareimprovingatanicepaceinallthreesegmentsandweanticipatethatourtoplineparticularlyorganicgrowthwillcontinuetoimprove.
Turningtoourfourth-quarterresults,wehadnetsalesof$2.9billionadecreaseof3percentyear-over-year.Netsalesfortheyearwere10$1/2billiona5percentdecreasefromlastyear.
Ourorganicgrowthofthequarterwas$40millionor1percentconsolidatedsegmentoperatingmargincameinat8.9percentforthequarterfundedorderswere$2.6billionforthefourthquarter.Andweendedtheyearwithabooktobillratioof.94.DuringthequarterandoverthispastyearwecontinuetogeneraterobustcashflowwhichhasbeenoneofL-3'slong-standingstrengthsweanticipatethiswillcontinueintothefuture.
In2015werepurchased$740millionofourstockandpaid$214millionindividendsreturninganaggregatealmost$1,000,000,000incashtoshareholdersthroughabalancemethodofcapitalallocationwemaintainedandefficientcapitalstructurewithampleliquidity.
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Wealsocommittedtomaintainingourinvestmentgradecreditratingswhichiscriticaltoourshareholdervaluecreationstrategyofdividendsandsharerepurchases.
ThisdisciplinedapproachenablesustoreturncashtoshareholdersandstrengthenstheCompanybyprovidingresourcesforstrategicM&Aopportunitiesandinvestmentsingrowthareas.
BeforeIaddresskeyawardsforthequarter,I'dliketodiscussafewimportantinvestmentandportfoliointegrationinitiatives.
In2015,weinvested$269inresearchanddevelopmentandconsequentlyhaveseensomeimportantadvancesinourR&Dprogram.
Ourgrowthinvestmentsarefocusedonthreekeygoals;enhancingourproductlines,growingfuturesales,anddevelopingnewproductsandcompetitivediscriminators.
Forexample,oureffortsinphysics-basedmodelingandsimulationarenotable.Here,weleveragetechnologyfromthegamingandvisualizationindustrytodevelopL-3'sideationfacility.
Thisuniqueprojectenablesofomissionsimulationcapturingcapabilitiesfromtheunderseatothespacedomain.Thiswillenableourcustomerstoclearlyvisualizetheeffectivenessofsystemsinananti-accessareadenialorA-280environment.
ThisisanareawereL-3isleadingintechnologydevelopmentforthismarketplace.ThisisagoodexampleoftheinnovationandthoughtleadershipwehadL-3haveembraced.
Andthere'smoretocome.We'redevelopingsmallerlighterSatcomterminalsthatmaintainahighlevelofperformance,aswellasfuturecommunicationcapabilitiesthatimprovetheprobabilityofinterceptanddetection.Wealsocontinuetoupgradeournightvisionproductsspecificallyinthedevelopmentofbulldigitalnightvisioncapability.
TheseR&Dadvancesreflectourpositionasanindustryinnovatorandopenthedoortonewsalesopportunity.Ourportfoliointegrationeffortsareproceedingbeyondourexpectations.
Forexample,intersectionsareincreasingL-3'scapabilitiesandtechnologiesbyworkinginternallywithWesCam,ourcommunicationsystemsWesandunmannedsystemsbusinessestoprovideenhancedsensorandimagerysolutionstoourcustomers.
Additionally,acombinationofCPCaviationandlinkUKissuccessfullyexpandingthatbusinessbase.WealsocompletedourMyTechacquisitionbyacquiringadvancedtechnicalmaterialsnowcalledL-3NordicATM.ATMdevelopsandmanufacturesspecializedcoaxialinwaveguideRFmicrowaveproductsandfitsinwellwithournotofmytechproductlines.
WeareperformingwellonkeyprogramsandplatformintegrationwecontinuetomakeprogresstowardsthecompletionofthefirstVIPaircraftinaworkingcloselywithourcustomer.
Now,letmeaddressafewsaywecanwinsinourdefensecommercialaviationandourexceptionalbusiness.Fromamacroperspective,theDoDbudgethasresumedgrowthandwe'veseenimprovementinourDoDorganicsalesgrowthrate.TheDoD'sthirdoffsetstrategyalsopresentsopportunitiesforL-3andwearefollowingclosely.L-3hasmanycapabilitiesthatwillenhanceourabilitytohelpourcustomersachievetheirgoalsandobjectives.
InthefourthquarterwereceivedamajorcontracttoprovideaPowerNoControlCenterorPNCCforenableddestroyers.ThisisanadvancedandeffectivepowerManagementsystemandweseenfurtheropportunitiesforexpandingitsapplicationsacrossotherU.S.Navyplatforms;includingcarriers,
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amphibiousassaultships,andlateralcombatships.OurISRintegrationbusinesscontinuestoberobustandwereceivednewbusinessawardforamajorprogram,includingthe(EMars)aswellastheclassifiedprogram.
InadditionwewereselectedtoprovideUSspecialoperationscommandwiththeknockyournightvisionequipment.Wealsoreceivedadditionalfundingforawiderangeoflegacyprogramsfeaturingourmissiledefensework;forusers,(predatormissionaircrew)trainingsystems,C-130displaysforphotonicmasswork,and(great)eagleyUASwork,whichincludesourinnovativenewcompositemaintenancesystemstrainer.
AlsointhetrainingarenawereceivedacontracttoupgradeorF-18tacticalforthenewU.S.Navy.Thisawardimprovethefidelityofthetrainingequipmentandprovidesanewimmersiveexperienceforpilots.
Finally,wereceivedfollow-onfundingforbutprogramsuchasArmyfleetsupportaswellasavarietyofmodificationinsustainingprojectsincludingarivetjointamongothers.
Forcommercialaviation,thisisasectorwithstronggrowthpotentialandasevidencedbyourrecentawardswearecapitalizingonopportunitiesinincreasingourmarketshare.Ourcommercialflightsimulatorintrainingbusinesscontinuestobestrong.We'vereceivedordersfromTurkishAirlines,AirChina,SpringAirlines,andDeltaAirLinesforavarietyofsimulators.TheDeltaordersparticularnotablebecauseitexpandsourmarket.
Inaddition,oursecurityanddetectionsystemsbusinessremainssolid.AndinthefourthquarterwereceivedordersforavarietyofproductsincludingProVision,checkpointsscreeingsystems.IntheUSCapitolbuildingwealsoreceivedordersforournewClearScanAircraftBaggageScreeningSystemsfromSingapore,aswellasamaintenancecontractwiththatTSAforourexaminersystems.
Intheinternationalareadespitetheongoinglumpinessinthatmarketweremainfocusedonbuildingourbusinessandarepleasedtoreportseveraldevelopments.We'vebeenincreasingourresourcesbyaddingpersonnelandincountryofficerstosupportbusinessdevelopmentactivities.Theseeffortsarepayingoff.
We'vebeenselectedtosupplynightvisionequipmenttotheKingdomofSaudiArabia.Additionally,wereceivedsalesforourtravelingwavetoequipmentfromseveralcustomersinAsiaandChinaaswell.WesCamisalsousingwellsupplementingthatsoliddefensebusinesswithseveralinternationalawards.
IntermsofourOutlookfor2016,asyouknow,2015wasatransformativeyearforus.Aswelookaheadto16weexpecttomaintainourpositivemomentumaswedrivemarginimprovementandcontinuetorepositiontheportfolio.Ourfocusremainsconcentratedongrowingourbusinessincapturingadditionalmarketshare.Andwecontinuetomovetowardshigher-marginareaspioneerinnovativetechnologythroughtargetedR&DinvestmentsandstrengthenourcorebusinessthroughstrategicM&A.
OurapproachtoM&Aremainsthesame;weregularlymonitorandevaluateCompany'sthatmightmeaningfullycontributetothestrengthofourbusiness,pursuingaccretiveacquisitionswithstrongmarginsandhighgrowthrates.Smalleracquisitionswillbefullyintegratedintoourexistingoperationswhereverpossible.
Ourstrategyforgrowthcombinedwithourstrongbalancesheetandthoughtfulapproachtocapitalallocation,positionuswellforsuccessinthecomingyear.Withthat,letmenowturnitovertoRalphforamorein-depthlookatthefinancialsandthenwe'llbehappytotakeyourquestions.
Ralph?
RalphDAmbrosio (SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer):
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OK,thankyouMike.
I'lldiscusssomedetailaboutthefourth-quarterresultsandthenreviewtheupdatetoour2016guidance.
First,IwanttoremindeveryonethatwereclassifiedNSStodiscontinuedoperationsforallperiods.AsMikesaidweexpecttocompletethatsaleoverthenextweeksomycommentswillonlyconcernL-3'scontinuingoperationswhichdonotincludeNSS.
WehadsolidperformanceforthefourthquarterwithadjusteddilutedearningspersharesalesandfreecashflowcominginbetterthanourOutlook.ItwasdrivenprimarilybyhighersalesinlowertaxesduetothereenactmentoftheR&Etaxcredit.
AdjusteddilutedEPSexcludeslossesonbusinessdivestituresandnon-cashballoonpaymentcharges,includingthefourth-quarterballoonpaymentchargeforlogisticsolutions.
Fourth-quartersaleswerejustunder$2.9billionandgreworganicallybyonepercent.Saleswereabout$90millionabovethemidpointguidancethatweprovideddrivenbyhigherU.S.DepartmentofDefensesalesmostlyincommunicationsystems.Webelieveourfourth-quartersalesdemonstratethatthesalesgrowthrateforUSgovernmentandDoDbusinessisimprovingandweexpectitwillcontinuetoimprovethisyearin2016.
Consolidatedoperatingmarginwas50basispointsbelowwhatweanticipatedforthefourthquarterand10basispointsbelowwhatweexpectedforthefull-year2015withlowermargins,andelectronicsystems,andaerospacesystems.Theelectronicsystemsmarginwas11.3percentforthefourthquarterand11.5forthefullyearanditwasimpactedbya$20millionrefundliabilityprovisionforEOTechholographicweaponsites.Aerospacesystemsmarginswasabout15basispointslowerthanwhatweexpected,andthatwasprimarilyduetohighermaterialandlaborcostonfixed-price.perflightourclaimedourlogisticsolutionscommunicationsystemsbetterthanweexpecteddrivingisfull-yearmargin25basispointshigherthanourguidance.
Fourth-quarterfreecashflowof460millionwasalsoverysolidbringingthefull-yeartwoand829millionwhichwas19millionbetterthanweexpectedandessentiallyduetotheunexpectedreenactmentoftheR&Dtaxcredit.
Aswerecentlyhaveexplained,weinvestedsignificantamounteachyearandourneedtosustainandgrowourbusinessandthatR&DalsocreatesavaluablecashtaxasreductionfortheCompany.
Movingontothe2016comparedtoourinitialguidancethatweprovidedattheinvestorconferenceonDecember8lastmonth,our2016guidanceincludesincreasesforEPSfreecashflow,andoperatingmarginsprimarilyduetotwoitemsfirsttheR&DtaxcreditwhichwaspermanentlyreenactedbyCongress,lastmonthandsecondlypensionexpensewillbe32millionlowerthanourinitialestimate.
Thesechangeseachincreased2016EPSbyabout$.25liftingtheEPSguidancerangeatthemidpointby$.50to$7.50whichisanincreaseof9percentcomparedto2015adjusteddilutedearningspershare.
Thelowerpensionexpensealsoraisesconsolidatedoperatingmarginguidancebyabout30basispointswithcorrespondingincreasesineachofthesegmentmargins.Wemadenootherchangesto2016salesandmarginguidance.
Ourconsolidatedsalesguidanceremainsat$10,050,000,000atthemidpointfor2016guidance.With2015salescominginalittlehigherthanweexpected,our2016guidancenowassumesanorganicsalesdeclineofapproximately2.5percent.
WeexpectourUSgovernmentincludingtheDoDbusinesstobedown2percentorganicallyversus15
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percent.Commercialistogrowabout8percent,andinternationalsalestodeclineabout14percentversus15percent.WithrespecttotheUSgovernmentandDoDbusiness,thefaroneoffoftheAfghanistandrawdownsalesin2016isexpectedtoreducesalesbyabout$135million,andwithoutitoursalesintheUSgovernmentandDoDmarketswouldbeaboutflatin2016.WehopetohavesomeupsidewithourUSgovernmentsalesin2016.
Weincreasedtheconsolidatedoperatingmarginguidanceto9.8percent,whichis130basispointsofanincreaseover2015,withmarginsincreasinginallthreesegments.Ourdilutedsharesareinstandingestimatestaysat$77.5millionfor2016,whichisbypercentlowerthanlastyearanditcontinuestoincludesharerepurchasesof$750millionortheyear.
Weincreaseourfreecashflowestimateby$15millionto125million.Andthatiscomprisedofthreechanges;first,theR&Dcreditabout$20millionslightlybetterworkingcapitalperformanceadds$50million.Andthenwe'reincreasingourinvestmentcapitalexpendituresby$50millionandthatleadstoincrease.
Thecashflowguidancefor2016continuestoassumeabout$100millionofpensioncontributions.Withrespecttoourcapitalallocation,inadditiontotheplannedsharerepurchasesof$750millionfor2016,cashdividendswillbeslightlyabout$200millionandweintendtorepay$300millionofdebt.
WealsoacquiredasmallmicrowavecomponentsbusinessthatMiketalkedabout,thatcloselastweekandthatwasfor$27million.AndweareintegratingthatintoourNordicMicTechDivisioninthecommunicationsystemsegment.
Afterthesecapitaldeploymentactions,weestimatethatwe'llend2016withacashbalanceofabout$325million.Ourcapitalallocationandfinancingstrategycontinuestoincludeourcommitmenttomaintainingourinvestment-graderatings.Iwanttounderscorethatwedon'tviewtheratings--theinvestment-graderatingsastransitory.
Andforthelastpointon2016guidance,weexpectourbooktobillratiotobeabout1.0.Lookingatthefirstquarterof2016;weexpectsalestobebetween$2.3and$2.4billionwithanorganicsalesdeclineofabouttwopercent,marginswillbeaboutninepercentforthefirstquarterwithEPSbetweenadollar$.50andadollar$.60,freecashflowcominginfromsomewherebetweenzeroand50millionandthebooktobillratiobetweenonepoint--between.901.0.
Sotoconclude,ourfinancialreviewL-3isinaprocessofpositivetransition.Wearefocusedonprogramperformance,expandingmarginandreturningourtoplinetoanorganicgrowthposition.Wearealsostrengtheningourbusinessportfoliotostructurallyimproveourcompetitivepositions,salesgrowthrateandmarginexpansionprofile.
Wecontinuetogeneratesolidfreecashflowandareallocatingittoincreasesharesofthevalue.Werecognizethatwehavemoreworktodo.WeknowwhatastobedoneandwelookfortoupdatingyouontheCompany'sprogressthroughouttheyear.
ThankyouandwillbegintheQ&Anow.
QUESTIONS&ANSWERS
Operator :
Thankyou.
Wewillnowbeginthequestionandanswersection.Toaskaquestion,youmaypressstaroneonyourtouchtonephone.Ifyouareusingaspeakerphone,pleasepickupyourhandsetbeforepressingthe
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key.Towithdrawyourquestion,pressthepoundkey.
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OurfirstquestioncomesfromthelineofRobertSpingarnofCreditSuisse
RobertSpingarn (Analyst-CreditSuisse):
Goodmorning.
RalphDAmbrosio (SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer):
MorningRob.
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
HiRob.
RobertSpingarn (Analyst-CreditSuisse):
Morningguys.
Mike,Idon'tknowifthisistherebutwhenIlookatthethreesegments,itseemstomethattheonethat'sgivingyouthemostchallengeisaerospacesystems.WhenIthinkaboutlastyear,someoftheexecutionatWaco,theimpairmentoflogistics,andyoumentionedthesoftinternationalbookingsthereyouknowinthereleasethismorningregardstothebooktobill.
Howdoyoustrategicallyhowtogoabouttacklingthesegmentgettingthisthingwhereyouwantit?
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
Well,you'rerightRobanditcertainlyisafairquestioninmyview.
Sowearenotsatisfiedattheperformanceofaerospacefrombothmarginandordersstandpointandsales-ofcoursesalesgrowth.Thatsaid,therearestrengthsinthebusinessandwedoseeopportunitiestoimproveresults.We'veidentifiedanumberofnewprogramopportunitiesandinfactcustomershaveindicatedtheywouldliketoseeL-3asbidder.Andinfact,wecontinuetogetcertainamountsofworkofallsortsjustbecauseofthecapabilityofthatbusinessunitourunmatchedinthecountry-unmatched.Howevertheybeenthroughadifficultcycle.
Soasweanticipateinimprovingbudgetaryenvironmentsahead,webelievethattherewillbeopportunitiesthatcanleadtobettertop-linegrowthaswell.
Sointermsofallocatingresources,it'ssomethingthatI'vedeployChrisontomonitorcloselyaswellasDaveVanBuren.Theseareprogramsthatbothareveryfamiliarwith,includingwemadeseveralvisitstothebusinessunitduringthelastquarter.Andwehavealleyesfocusedongettingitimproved--gettingthat.Nowunfortunately,therearenumberofsizableinternationalcontractsthathadcompletedlastyear,someofthemalittlebitearlierthananticipatedsuchastheAirseekerprogram.Andwe'renotbackfilledifyouwillwithnewworkbecauseofaslowdowninternationally.
Sothosearesignificantprogramsthat'scausingabitofadipinthenumbers.Andthereareopportunitiesagaininternationally,tobringmoreworkinhousethereaswellasontheU.S.governmentside.SoIthinkafewmorequartersofworkonitandwewillstarttoseesomeresultsanynewworkin-house,butIbelievethatthefirststepingettingthattoturnaround.
RobertSpingarn (Analyst-CreditSuisse):
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Right.
Andso,whenyouthinkabouttheinternationalsoftness,isthereregionalcomponenttoitasyoulookforwardtoit?IstheMideastnotparticipatingasmuchastheyhaveandwherewhatregionsdoseesomeoftheopportunitiesthatareinfrontofyou?
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
Well,thegrowthhasbeenMideastandAsiaandyesyou'rerighttheMideasthassloweddownandAustraliaaswell.Asiacontinuestobeagrowthareaforus.OfcourseyouhavetheoilpriceissueintheMiddleEastthatisIthinkputtingabitofacrimpinspending,sincecountrieshavesurvivedwithoutsomeoftheseplatformsinthepast;whetherthey'resophisticatedISRsignals,intelligenceplatformsthatrequirenotonlytheaircraftbutgroundstations,andoperators,andprocessing,andthelike.Andthey'reverybigticketitems,sowhilewe'reseeingaslowdownwe'reseeinganuptickifyouwillinAsia.
Someofthethingswe'vebeenfocusingonispartneringinternationallywithplatformmanufacturersifyouwillorotherincountryindustrialpartnerstohelpinthatregardandit'sbeenworkingoutprettywell.WehaveafewaircraftundercontractinJapanforexamplethatwetalkedaboutlastyear,moreinKorea.Andthere'smoreIdon'twantotalkaboutforcompetitivereasonsbutweareactivelypursue--inpursuitofseveralmajorplatformtypeprogramswhereL-3willbetheprimesystemsintegratoroftypicallysophisticatedISRsystemsoncommercialtypeplatform;whichisreallywhatthisbusinesshasbeengoingoverthelastseveralyears.
RobertSpingarn (Analyst-CreditSuisse):
OKandthenjusttofinishcutonthisyoutalkedaboutthegrowthpursuitsinthesegment;anymoreonthedivestituresorportfolioshapinghere?
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
Well,we'vecontinuetoevaluatealloperationsthatareleadingourobjectives.Andyouknow--andthere'sacouplewaystodealwithitwhetherit'sworkinghardertoimprovethebusinessoranoutrightdivestitureasyousawinthefourthquarter.Buttheportfolioshapingdoesremainacoreelementofourstrategywewillcontinuetofocusonourcoredefenseelectronics,medicationsandISRmarketsaswe'vebeensaying.Howeveraswecontinuetoevaluatetheportfoliowearetakingthemarketconditionsintoconsideration.
TheNSStransactiondemonstratesourcommitmenttoactingwhenweseetherightvaluationsavailable.Andwewillcontinuetobeopportunisticandwillconsidervalueenhancingopportunities.ButrightnowasyouknowthedebtmarketIguessyouwouldcallithigh-yieldorprivateequityisnotreallythereasit'sbeen,soit'scausedabitofcrimpinvaluationandwe'renotreallylookingtogivethingsaway.We'redealing-oneparticularbusinesswithwellover$1billioninsales,wheretheofferareverydisappointingintermsofnumbersthatabeendampenedaround.Iknowthoseapiecethatwasoutlastweekandwerenotinterestedinpursuingthatkindofatransactionthatisnotvalueaccretivetoshareholders.
RobertSpingarn (Analyst-CreditSuisse):
OK,thatmakessensebackwillstayfocusedbackmakessense.
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
We'llstayfocused.
RobertSpingarn (Analyst-CreditSuisse):
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ThankyouMike
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
You'rewelcomeRob
Operator :
OurnextquestioncomesfromthelineofCaivonRumohrofCowenandCompany.
CaivonRumohr (Analyst-CowenandCompany):
Yes,thankyouverymuch.
SoMike,onRaytheon'scall,theysaid,thereChairmantheysaidwasjustintheMideast,andhesaidhe'snotseenoilasaproblemandtheyhadgoodbookingsinthefourthquarterinternationally.Theylookedforhigherbookingsthisyear.Ispartoftheissuethere,whichyouknowmaybeyouguysaresmallerandthereforecan'thavethesamekindofsalespresenceinthosecountries?Andsecondly,Ithinkyou'dmentionedacoupleofpotentialsforgrowthininternationalnextyearifyoucouldupdateusonthose?
Thankssomuch
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
Well,Iwouldrelateitmoretowardsthetypeofsystemthat'sbeenevaluated,notnecessarilythesizeoftheCompany'ssellingsuchasystem.Sosomethingsarejustneededmorethanothers,particularlyinthemissiledefenseareawhichisverycriticalinthatregion.
Sowehavebeenmakingprogressonareassuchasaviationtrainingandsimulation,advancedavionicsequipment,nightvisionequipment,sensorsystems,tacticalSatcom,AirborneISR;whicharethemorebiggerticketitemswheretheslippageisapparent.YouknowasprogramsagaincompletedlikeAirseekerandothersandhavenotbeenbackfilledifyouwill.Sothatgoesalsowithmulti-missiontypeaircraft,wherewehavebeenworkingonsystemswhereoneplatformcanbuildmultiplemissionsaddressingatighterbudgetaryenvironment.Thuswheresomeofthesecustomersdonotwanttolieaseparateaircraftforeverysinglemission,whetherit'sairborneISR,maritimepatrol,searchandrescueetcetera.
They'relookingmorefromourexperience--frommyexperiencewithaircraftthatarerapidlyreconfigurabletomeetthemissionsothey'llhavetobuyitonceandbuymultiplesensorpackagestheycanplugin.Militarysimulationsystemsareactive,securityanddetectionsystemsisairportsareupgradedandbuilt,andantisubmarinewarfare.Sothoseareallareasweareseeingsomegrowth.AndIwouldsayisnotthere'snosobutthesalescycleiscertainlyalongerpropositionrightnow.
CaivonRumohr (Analyst-CowenandCompany):
Thankssomuch.
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
ThankyouCai.
Operator :
OurnextquestioncomesfromthelineofMylesWaltonofDeutscheBank.
MylesWalton (Analyst-DeutscheBank):
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Goodmorning.
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
MoringMyles.
MylesWalton (Analyst-DeutscheBank):
CouldyoucommentonwheretheincrementalCapExisgoingintermsofthestrategy?It'skindofinterestingtoseethedropthroughofthebenefitofsomeofthecashcomingandgoingbacktoreinvestinginthebusiness.Justcuriouswhereyou'reseeingthebiggestpayoff
RalphDAmbrosio (SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer):
Theincrementalinvestmentisgoinglargelyinthreeareas,Myles-ISRsystems;two,trainingandsimulation,andthree,inouradvancedprogramsbusinessarea,whichaddressestheclassifiedmarketspace
MylesWalton (Analyst-DeutscheBank):
AndIguessisitasignalthatiftheyhadmorethey'dbedoingmoreinthatyou'rekindoftryingtobalancewhatyou'regeneratingintermsoffreecashflowtoinvestorsinthatthereisarealhungerinsideformoreinvestment?
RalphDAmbrosio (SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer):
Well,we'redefinitelyincreasingtheinvestmentwhereweseegoodopportunityforgrowththenextseveralyearsandit'ssimplythat,wedon'tholdbackCapExtodriveupfreecashflow.Wehaveaverybalancedapproachandwe'respendingadditionalmoneyherebecauseitmakessenseandweseeitpayingoffinthenexttwoyears
MylesWalton (Analyst-DeutscheBank):
OK.
Andthen,couldyouupdateusontheHeadofStateeffortandwhereweare?Andalsonotebooktobillofone—soIguessRob'squestion,doesArrowbecomeanequalweightedcontributortothatbook-to-billin2016?
Thanks
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
OntheHeadofStateMyles,wemadeverygoodprogressonthatprogram.We'vecompletedaproject.Wearecurrentlyworkingwithourcustomeronsomefollow-uprequestaspartoftheirfinalinspectionprocessandweexpecttodelivertothecustomersoon.
Importantlytherehavebeennochangestoourestimatesaswepreviouslyprovidedweremainonbudget.Sowe'veallbeenveryfocusedontheprogramduetotheproblemslastyearandwe'vebroughtinadditionaltalentintermsofprogramManagementandwiththat,expertise.It'smovingalongverywellasfaraswe'reconcernedweexpecttodelivershortly.
SothatoneseemstobemovingalongRalphyouwanttotake--
RalphDAmbrosio (SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer):
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Sure.
Soweexpectthebooktobillratioandelectronicsystemsandcommunicationsystemstobeslightlyabove1.0forthisyearandaerospacejustunder1.0.Andthere'salotofopportunitiessomethatMiketalkedaboutthatwe'repursuinganaerospace,andtotheextentthatwecancapitalizeonthem--thatbooktobillratioinaerospacesystemsshouldmoveto1.0.FromourseentodayIhaveajustunder1.0for2016.
MylesWalton (Analyst-DeutscheBank):
OK,allrightthanks
RalphDAmbrosio (SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer):
Thankyou.
Operator :
OurnextquestionthelineofSethSeifmanfromJ.P.Morgan.
SethSeifman (Analyst-J.P.Morgan):
Thanks,goodmorning.
Iwonderifyoucouldtalkalittlebitabout-youknow,L-3wasakeyrecipientofalotoffundinginthelatepartoflastdecade--intheearlypartofthisdecadewhentheofftempowasveryhighandwe'reseeingafasterofftemponow.AndI'mwonderingifyoucouldtalkabouttheimpactofthat--Iknowwhat'sgoingonyououtlinedwashappeninginAfghanistanbuttheofftempointherestoftheMiddleEast?
RalphDAmbrosio (SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer):
Well,arepresentlywedoseesomeopportunitiesintheISRspaceaswellasinsensorsystemsandwarriorsystems.SoinmycommentaryIsaidthatwehopetohavesomeupsideinour2016salesintheDoDarea--that'spartoftheupside,Seth.
SethSeifman (Analyst-J.P.Morgan):
OKgreatthanksverymuch
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
Letmetagontothatjustwecouldrecall.Thetypesofthingsthatwereleadingintheofftempoifyouwill,wasgettingtheunmannedsystemsfielded.Sothere'salotofdatalinks,cameras,Roversystemforthetroopsontheground,nightvisionequipment,ISRcapability,etcetera.Andasthingsrampedupthatplayedintoourareasverywellandweweregrowingalongwithitandasyouknowthathassloweddown.
Now,weareseeingmoreactivitythisyearthanwehaveinthepast.Sofarbutit'sreallyhardtopegwherewe'regoingtoenterhowmuchgoingtodrivethenumbersatthispointit'salittleearlyinthecycle.
SethSeifman (Analyst-J.P.Morgan):
OKthankyou
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Operator :
OurnextquestioncomesthelineofRobertStallardofRoyalBankofCanada.
RobertStallard (Analyst-RoyalBankofCanada):
Thankssomuchgoodmorning.
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
MorningRob
RobertStallard (Analyst-RoyalBankofCanada):
Mike,maybejusttofollowuponthat,RalphmentionthattheAfghansalesaredown$135millionin2016,doesthatessentiallytakethemtozero?
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
No,notquitezero
RalphDAmbrosio (SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer):
Itdoesn'ttakeittozeroRob.
YoumayrecallthelasttimewetalkedaboutoverexposuretoAfghanistan,weexplainedthatin2016wewereanticipatingoursaleswouldbottomsomewherebetweenthethreeand$400millionrange;whichactuallygoingtobeabout$400million.Andthat'sourguidancecontemplatesafter$135millionreductionthatItalkedabout.Andthereasonisthatitdoesn'tgotozero,isthatwedosomethingsthatIthinkthatneedtobecontinuedtobesupportedandperformedbytheUSmilitary--somespecialoperationsrelatedbutthatbusinessisnotgoingtogoaway.
Wethinkwerehittingbottomasweanticipatedthelastcoupleofyearsin2016.Ithinkthatanswersyourquestion.
RobertStallard (Analyst-RoyalBankofCanada):
Yes,soshouldbeaheadwindin2017ifyou'relookingatitthatway
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
Correct,Isaiditwasthefinalrunoffin16'.
RobertStallard (Analyst-RoyalBankofCanada):
Yes.
Mike,maybeafollow-upyoumentionedsomeofthethingsgoingonintheExportmarket,Iwaswonderingifyoucouldcommentonwhatyou'reseeinginEuropeandwhetherthere'sbeenanysignofimprovementandwhetherforeignexchangemightbeanissuethere?
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
Well,wehistoricallyhavenotbeenabigplayerintheEuropeanmarketastheytendtobeabletomeettheirownneedsonmanythingsorcompetehead-onwiththeU.S.However,thereareincreasesinbudgets,asitrelatestoUkraine,ifyouwillandcountriesinthatareaandtheNATOcountries.TherestilllimitedinvestmentratesofabouttwopercentGDP.Alotofcountriesdon'tevenmeetthat.Butagain,
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withsimilarsystemsnightvision,comms,andthingsthatL-3providesthatareuniquetoL-3andarenotreadilyavailableintheoriginaloftheworld.
Now,Idon'texpectthattobeabigdriverunlessthereisamajoreventthatweretotranspireatthispointbutwecontinuetostayfocusedandwehavepartnersinparticularcountriesthatweworkwithtokeepusaheadofdevelopmentsandgetusontheirteamswerenecessaryorwhereneededismoreofawaytosayit.Soit'snotgoingtobeIwouldsaytheleaderinternationallyforuswearestillveryfocusedonMideastAsiaasbeingabiggerdriverforbusiness.
RobertStallard (Analyst-RoyalBankofCanada):
OK.,thankssomuch
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
Thankyou
Operator :
OurnextquestioncomesfromthelineofCarterCopelandofBarclays.
CarterCopeland (Analyst-Barclays):
Heygoodmorningguys.
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
GoodmorningCarter
CarterCopeland (Analyst-Barclays):
JustacouplequickonesMike.
Iwonderifyoucouldjustexpandalittlebit?Youcommentedonthebackofficesupplychainstuff,IrealizetheseeffortsarestillearlydaysandChrisisstillexploringalotofthestuffwiththerestoftheteam.Butaretheopportunitiesyouwarecoveringatleastinitiallyfocusedinonebusinessareaversusanotheroranygranularitycangiveusthere?
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
It'sreallyfocusedacrosstheCompanyandunfortunatelyChrisisnotheretoday--hehadsomeprior-he'snotonthecallbutifyourquestionisforhimfeelfreetofollowupatalaterdate,
Butit'sreallyacrosstheCompany,we'reseeingthebiggestincreasesrightnowincommsystemsandelectronicsystemssegments,ifyouwill.He'salsofocusingontheISRtheaerospaceareaaswell,butit'severythingfromcompleteconsolidationofbusinessunitstoagain--asIsaidthebackofficetypethings--backofficetypeoperationsorthingsthatcouldbesharedamongbusinessareas.Andofcourse,thegoalistogetthemostbangforthebuckifyouwillintermsofbeingabletoconsolidateanddriveourmarginsevenhigher.AndthatinvolvesalotofthingsIthinkwhatmuchmoregranularityaswegetfurtheronintheyearbutwehaveveryfocusedgoalsinthisarea.AndIexpectthatwithChrisonboardatsomepointwillbeacceleratingthoseefforttobringtheminsoonerthanwehadoriginallyplannedon.
CarterCopeland (Analyst-Barclays):
Great.
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Andon--justtotakethehighyieldevaluationcommentandflipitonitshead,ImeanhistoricallyyouguyshavebeenveryacquisitiveandIknowthefocusisoncostandportfolioshaping.Rightnow,couldthatimpactonvaluationsinsomeoftheassetsthataresittinginsideprivateequity-youknow,providesomeopportunityontheacquisitionfrontthatyoumaybeweren'tthinkingaboutaquarterago?
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
Ihaven'tseenthatyet.Wehaven'tseenityetbutitcertainlycould.
AndwearealwayslookingforagooddealthatwillhelpimproveL-3thatfitswell,thatbringscustomerstechnologyetc,tous.Andwe'vehadsomegreatsuccesswithanumberofrecentbothontypeacquisitionsthatareprovideduswiththosenewproductsandcapabilitiesthatdrivevalueforcustomers.Andtheyarecontributingtoamarginimprovementprofile,sincetheyaredrivinghighermargins.Sowiththatinmind,we'llcontinuedownthatpathitsworkedverywellsofar,wecontinuetodosomemore.Planondoingsomemore,ifyouwill
RalphDAmbrosio (SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer):
AndalsoIthinkalotofthoseassetsareservicetypebusinesses.Soalotofthosewouldnotbeinterestedin,intermsofacquisitions,Carter
CarterCopeland (Analyst-Barclays):
OKthat'sfair.
Andjustasafinalone,Ralph.OnthecompsystemsOutlookitlookslikethat'salittlebitworsedespitethepensiontailwindisthatamixreasonbehindthat?
RalphDAmbrosio (SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer):
Well,Isaidacceptingthepensionimprovementweupheldallthesalesandmarginguidanceunchangedsoourbiggestupsideinsalesinthefourthquartercameincommsystems
The-Isaidthatwe-acceptingthepensionimprovement,weheldallthesalesandmarginguidanceunchanged.SoourbiggestupsideinsalesinfourthquartercameinCommSystems...
CarterCopeland (Analyst-Barclays):
OK.
RalphDAmbrosio (SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer):
Particularlyinthebroadbandcommunicationsystemsarea,whichistheCSWesbusiness,whichisdoingreallywell--rememberwehadcommissionstherecoupleyearsago?Thosehavebeenresolved.
Thebookbookingsarestrongandweseethatbeinganicegroweroverthenextseveralyears.SoatthispointI'dliketothinkthatthemarginguidanceandsalesguidanceforCommsSystemsisaconservativeandweshouldseesomeupsidethere.LikeIsaidwedidn'tchangetheOutlookwehelditconstantexceptforpension
CarterCopeland (Analyst-Barclays):
Great,thankyougentlemen
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
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Thankyou
Operator :
OurnextquestioncomesfromtheRichardSafranofBuckinghamResearch.
RichardSaf ran (Analyst-BuckinghamResearch):
Hi,goodmorning
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
GoodmorningRich
RichardSaf ran (Analyst-BuckinghamResearch):
Ralph,Michael,I'malwaysinterestedinyourcommentaryondefensebudget.Sothebipartisanbudgetagreement,nowdone--thepresidentsfiscal17requestcomingout.Iwantedtogetasenseofhowyouthinkingaboutfiscal17whatyou'rehearing.Doexpectanyefforttoraisethefiscal17spendingcaps?Dothinkwecouldseeanotherdouble-digitincreaseininvestmentaccounts?Justtobeinterestedinanycommentaryhaveon17
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
That'salotofspeculationRichardbuthappytospeak--obviouslywhat'snewisthatwehaveatwo-yeardeal.
Whichis--greatit'shelp20mostsignificantproblems,weasanindustryhavefacedwhichlackofvisibility.Soevendirectionally,itisagoodthingbutsoyou'reaskinglittlemore.
WethinkmostofthemovenisgoingtobeintheclassifiedareaIthinksomeofthe,Sec.Kendallpointedtothataswell.TheoverseascontingencyfundOCOaccountmaygrowaswell.Asyouknowalotofthegrowthwouldbedrivenbyinternationaleventsastheyunfold.Andasyouknowthere'salotgoingonallovertheplace.
SoI'dsaymorelikelyupsidethendownsidethere.Andwe'vealsobeenlisteningverycarefullytosomeofthecommentarybythoseinthebuildingparticularly,Sec.Kendallandtheacquisitionchiefs.IntermsofthetypesofcapabilitiesorinvestmentstheyarelookingfortheyhavebeenspecificallyaskingindustrytobealittlemoreforwardleaningonR&D.Andasyou'veseenwehavebeentryingtorespondinthatwaybecausetherearethingsthatwedothatfitsomeoftherequirementstheyhaveanditwouldcertainlybegoodtostarttogrowalittlemoreorganicallyinthatspace.Sowehavebeentryingtomeetthoserequestsanddevelopmoreespeciallyintheclassifiedspacewherewearedoingverywellrightnow.
Andthat'swhyyouseenumberslikeourR&Dgrowingalittlebitandwehopethatweknowthatwillbewellspentintermsofourinvestmentsinfuturegrowth.
RichardSaf ran (Analyst-BuckinghamResearch):
OKthanksforthat.
Andjustswitchingtocommercialaerospaceherefollowinguponyourcommentshearaboutcommercialaviationpotential,doyouintendonexpandingthisbusinesswithacquisitionsatsomepoint?Iknowyou'reexpectingeightpercentgrowthyear.ButIalsowanttoknowifyoucould,weseeasasustainablelong-termgrowthrateincommercial.Imeancouldweseeabove8percent?
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MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
YoucouldbutImeanyou'veheardsomeoftheOEMcommentarythisquarterwherethingsseemtobetakingabitofabreather.Weareinanoperatinginacouplemarketswherethereisatrainingsimulationarea,wherethereisahugepilotdemandifyouwillbecauseofretirements.AndthenumberifyouresearchisIbelieveitwashappenmillionpilotsoverthenextcouldbe10yearsorsoandthenyouhaveouravionicsbusinesseswhichhavehistoricallydoneverywell.
Theprobleminthatspaceisthatanythingthatweretocomeonlineforsaleistypicallyveryexpensiveandhardtomakeagoodbusinesscasefor.We'velookedatseveralCompany'sovertheyearsandwhereweseesomethingthatfitswellwithwhatwedoparticularsomethingthatcouldbeconsolidatedandalotofoverheadsavedthat'susuallyrequisitetobeabletomakethosenumberswork.
Becausethey'retypicallyhighergrowthhigher-marginandotherthingsthatwewouldseeinthedefenseandtheycomeinhigherpricesasyouknowyouhavetopayalotforgrowthinthismarketplacethesedays.
Soyeswithouttogrowthebusinessandwe'dlovetogrowitthroughacquisitionsbutrightnow,we'veseenabetterdealforusbeinginvestinginourownproductsanddevelopingthingsratherthanrequiringthemrightnowandwefeelpursuethatisastrategy.
WeareonnextGENsystem.Wehaveequipmentthereandwecontinuallyatworkondevelopingmoreavionicsforthegeneralaviationmarketplacewherewecontinuetodoverywell.Andforthelargetransportthatseemstobemoreregulationdrivenwhetherit'sfornewrecorderorkeeptestsystembutwekeeparoadthatasrobustR&Dprogramthatwillhelpuswiththegrowthandshouldthedealpresentsowillcertainlybealloverit
RichardSaf ran (Analyst-BuckinghamResearch):
ThanksverymuchMichael
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
Thankyou
Operator :
OurnextquestioncomesfromthelineofHowardRubelofJefferies
HowardRubel(Analyst-Jefferies):
Thankyouverymuch.Acoupleofthings.
RalphorMike,intheguidanceorlastyearyouhadanumberofwhatI'dcallone-offitems,andtheyrangefromseverancewhatIcallitsatisfyingsomelegalobligations.
Howdidyouthinkaboutfirsthowdidyouthinkaboutseveranceandintheupcomingyear?Orhowdidyouallowforthatandinthemargins?Andrelatedtothat,howdidyoufactorsortofthere'sclearlysomebenefitinnothavingtheseoneoffsforthisyearweareinnow
RalphDAmbrosio (SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer):
OKsowithrespecttotheseverance,weincurredabout$18millionin2015andweexpecttoincurabout$10millionin2016sosomereductionthereforsure.
Andcorrectwedidhaveafewormaybeseveralone-offitemsin2016Imean2015thatwedon'texpectto
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recurin2016.Ithinkyouseethatinthemarginexpansionthatweareguidingtoendanticipating.
HappeninginallthreesegmentsasMikesaid,ourturkeywithrespecttoaerospacewe'renotsatisfiedatallwithwherethemarginsarepresentlyandthat'swhatwehavethemostworktodointermsofliftingthemargins.
HowardRubel(Analyst-Jefferies):
Ontheotherhanditwashasquitenotablethatyouhadsaidsometimeagoitbeabletogainsomerecoveryonthefee12andyourcustomerrecognizedthatwork.
SothereisanabilitytoIguesstrackyourcostandvaluedeliveryourcustomerinactuallygetpaidforitsothere'ssomebenefitstherethat'sprobablystillyettoberecognized?
RalphDAmbrosio (SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer):
Wehavesomesmallupsidesthere.
HowardRubel(Analyst-Jefferies):
Justtwootherthings,one,youdidalludetosortofthebalancebetweeninvestment-graderatingandI'llcallitrunningandoptimizedbalancesheet;howdoyouthinkaboutthatgoingforwardand…
RalphDAmbrosio (SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer):
I'mnotsureIwouldcallitabalance.Wesaidthatwearecommittedtomaintaininginvestmentgraderating,Howard.
HowardRubel(Analyst-Jefferies):
Yes
RalphDAmbrosio (SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer):
WethinkwecandothatisstillgrowthebusinessandwenowarebeginningtoseethatwillstarttogrowoperatingincomeandEBITDAweexpectthattohappenin2016andmoresothereafter.Sothat'sgoingtohaveanaturaldeleveragingeffectaswell.
So..
HowardRubel(Analyst-Jefferies):
Istheresometarget--Imeantheratingagenciesareobviouslygoingtotellyouwhattheywantbuthowdoyouthinkaboutwhereyourleverageistodayversuswhereyouneedtobetomakesurethatyoudon'tgetoryouavoidadowngrade
RalphDAmbrosio (SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer):
OKsoeachoftheratingagenciescalculateleverageslightlydifferentandtheyexplainedandthepublichowtheydoitbutifyoulookatourdebttoEBITDA,weareexpectingthatwillendthisyearatabout2.8times.
AndIthinkourtargetisthatwewantedtobeabout2.7timesorslightlyunderthatsowearetrendinginthatdirection.
Wedohavesomerequirementsexistingdebtarrangementbuttheyallowfornotaproblemintermsof
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maintainingthem.Sotheinvestment-gradeversusnoninvestmentgradeisnotatrivialdecision.Imeanyoudon'tfliptheswitchback-and-forthbetweenthosepositions.
We'vebeeninvestment-gradesince2009eventhoughwe'reinvestment-gradewedohaveaveryaggressivefinancialpolicyinthatwedeploymostofourcashandwehaveagoodamountleverageonthebalancesheet.Andthat'sresponsibleintermsofdeliveringbetterreturnstoourshareholders.
HowardRubel(Analyst-Jefferies):
I'mcomfortablewiththat.IunderstanditandIappreciateit.
AndthenfinallyInoticedatyear-endyoulandedafairlysignificantISRcontractwithacoupleofworkcoupleofG5'sor550s--thisseemtobeanewlineofbusinessorsomethingthatIhadn'tseenbefore.IsthereanythingmoreyoucanelaborateonthatintermsofwhatyouseewithsomeGlobalopportunitiesthereorelseyoucantakethatplatformandaddyourcapabilitiesback?
RalphDAmbrosio (SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer):
YesHoward,thatisthetrendinthisspace.Rightnowyou'regoingtoseemore--moreofthisIusethetermcrosscheckingbutsomethebigheavyweightISRplatformstomoreaffordablebusinessjets.Thisoneisaveryrepresentativeofthetrendinmanycountriesthathavehowthey'relookingattheirISRmissionrequirements.Andwesitwellmetspaceintermsofbeingabletodothatmissionizationworkwhich;includesracksandracksofelectronics,andthepreciseplacementofsystems,toincreasingrangeforbeingonstation,whichcouldmeanauxiliaryfueltanksinsystems,andputtinginrefuelingcapabilityandthelike,
Allofthosethingsareinourwheelhouseifyouwillandwehaveexcellentperformancetoshowforitovertheyearsanddeliveringthesesystems.Sowhencustomersthinkaboutthatcrossdeckingmodel,theycallL-3firstasI'dliketosay.Imeanwedoagoodjobpartofithastodowiththefactthatwemakealotofthesubsystemswhetherit'sdatalinksorthesensorscamerasetc.Andwe'reabletopullthroughourownproductsinthesemodelswhichalsohelpsthewholebusinessas,ifyouwill.
Ifyougetononeoftheseit'snotonlytheintegrationworkbutit'spullingthroughdatalinksincamerasandthelike.ThatishowweintendtointendedthismodeltoworkbeingabletopullthroughL-3'ssystemsandsubsystemsifyouwillontheseplatforms.Butgiventheeconomicsofoperatingabusinessjetversusoutwide-bodycommercialplatformIthinkthisisatrendofthefuture.
HowardRubel(Analyst-Jefferies):
Youmightcallthismarqueeawardsthen?
RalphDAmbrosio (SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer):
Sure
HowardRubel(Analyst-Jefferies):
Thankyou
RalphDAmbrosio (SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer):
Thankyou
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
IwantedtomakeacommentalsotofollowupwithRalph'scommentontheinvestment-grade.
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IfyoulookatthewayItendtothinkofitwewillalwayswanttooperatewiththefacility.IthinkisprudenttheCompany'shavebeenfacilityshouldinM&A,oranyothermatterwerecashisbeingneededinashort-term.Undertheassumptionthatyes,we'llalwayshavethatthenyougettothequestionof;wellwasadifferenceofyourinvestment-gradearenot?Yes,asyoumayknowifyourinvestment-gradeyoudon'thavetherestrictionsonpaymentofdividends,andsharerepurchases,andM&A;youhavethatquote,respectivepaymentsbasketissue.It'sreallyquestionofinvestment-gradeversusnot.Ifyoulookatitaswewanttocreditfacilityornot?Becausewewouldnotbeabletooperatewiththecashdeploymentobjectivesthatweembracewithanoninvestmentcreditfacility.Itjustwouldn'tworkforusandeverybodywouldbeunhappy,includingme.
Andso,Ithinkisnotafarstretchtokeepthatinvestment-graderatingnow.Andit'stypicallytheleverageratiothat'distheoperativeoneismorerestrictivebecauseofthewaythenumbersworkandIbelieveit'sintermsofratingagencies--Moody'sisthemorerestrictiveofthethree,ifyouwill.Sothat'stheonewherewatchingRalphhadacommentalsowegetbacktogrowthinEBITDAinmarginsthatshouldhaveanaturaldeleveragingeffectwhichwouldgiveussomemoreheadroomandwhywe'rehavingthisdiscussion.
Iwanttogiveyoumyperspectiveonwhythatisimportant
HowardRubel(Analyst-Jefferies):
Thankyouverymuch.
Operator :
OurfinalquestioncomesfromthelineofGeorgeShapiroofShapiroresearch
GeorgeShapiro (Analyst-ShapiroResearch):
Yes,goodmorning.
Onespecificoneandthenonegeneralone.Ralph,youmentionedintheaerospacesystemsthattherewasa60basispointunfavorablecontractadjustmentthataircraftsystemsitsoundslikefromMike'scommentthatwasn'tontheHeadofStateplanecouldyoujusttelluswhereitmightbethen
RalphDAmbrosio (SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer):
Yes.HiGeorge.
Correct,thatdidnotpertaintotheHeadofStateaircraftmodificationjobs.StillontrackonlinewiththeestimatesthatwehadinthesecondquarteroflastyearthereontheHeadofStatework.
Butwehaveavarietyofotherprogramsinaircraftsystemsandtheyweresomeadjustmentsonacoupleofinternationaljobs.Andthensomeitemsatour(inaudible)operationsbutthoseareindividuallysmallitemsandaswellastheaggregate.Ithink$5millionorsonothingalarmingorparticularlyunusualthere.
GeorgeShapiro (Analyst-ShapiroResearch):
AndthenyougetdeliveryoneHeadofStateaircraftthisyearandtheotheronein17
RalphDAmbrosio (SeniorVicePresidentandChiefFinancialOfficer):
Onethisyearandtheothertwonextyear
GeorgeShapiro (Analyst-ShapiroResearch):
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OK.
AndthenonemoregeneraloneforyouMike.Ilookatobviouslythegoalofimprovingaerospacesystemsbutitseemslikethere'salotofheadwindsformerevenuesweredownlastyearandthey'redownthisyearanalystliketherevenuesaredeclininginprogramsareprobablyprettyprofitable.SoImeanwhatcanChrisoryoudoreallytokindofovercomethatheadwindandgetthoseaerospacemarginshigher?
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
Wellwealsoseethattheyarethecontractorofchoicewhenthere'sabigjobtodevelopandISRplatform.
Sosomeofthethingsthatwe'vebeendoingarethingswecouldbringfromcorporateone12wehaveorcouldbebringinmorebusinessdevelopmentfolkstotheinternationalside.Numbertwo,wearedevelopingmoreinternationalpartnershipseitherwithaircraftOEMsorwithotherequipmentsuppliersorwithotherinvestorindustrialplayers.Sowehaveaseatatthetableinthesecountriesaregoingtogoforwardwiththesystems.WearetheworldleaderinISRmannedplatformsandIbelievethatthatwillcontinuetobeamarketthatwillgrow.
Soit'salsonotoneofthemoremarginconstrainedmarketplacesbecauseagaintheseareone-of-a-kindplatformsandwearenotusuallybiddingtoalowpricewearebiddingtoatechnicalcapabilityandwearenotinterestedinlowpriceweareinterestedindevelopinganddeliveringstate-of-the-artplatformsatgoodmargins.
Soagain,IpointedtothefactthatsomesignificantinternationalworkhadbeencompletedandanewworkhadnotbeenbroughtintofillthatholeifyouwillandalsothereareundertheUSsidenewplatformsthatwillbecomingoutthathavedisplayssomeofthelifecyclesustainmentthathadhistoricallybeendoneacrossthebusiness.
Sothere'sacoupleholesthatneedtogetfilledinthisisanareawhereIwanteverybodyfocusedongettingthisbusinessareabackontrackwherefromamarginstandpointinfromagrowthstandpointtheexecutiontocontinuestobeexcellent.
GeorgeShapiro (Analyst-ShapiroResearch):
OKthanksverymuchandgoodluck
MichaelStrianesee (ChairmanCEO):
Thankyou
Sowhenwrappingup,thecurrenttopoliticalenvironmentofvolatilebutpresentsnewopportunitiesbothincountrydomesticallyandinternationallyandwearewell-positionedtocapitalizeaswemovethrough2016.WecontinuetoexecuteourstrategyofstrengtheningourportfolioinvestinginbusinessesthatweknowwellandleveragingourstrongcashflowgenerationtoinvestintheCompanyandatthesametimereturncashtoshareholders.
OurinvestmentinR&Dinourmarket-leadingpositionsbecausereadytoaccommodatetheshort-termneedsoftheUSgovernmentandtoadaptandshippedaccordingtoitslonger-termthirdoiloffsetstrategyweareseeingbenefitsfromourrefinedstrategymarginsareimprovingin2016asisourtoplineandweconsiderandwewillbemovingforwardwiththeseeffortwellinto17andwe'replanningonkeepingthemarginexpansionfrontandcenterforseveralyearstocomeinuntilwearesatisfiedwithdoingthebestwecouldpossiblydoofproductasacrosstheCompany.
CompanyName:L-3CommunicationsHoldingsIncCompanyTicker:LLLSector:IndustrialGoodsIndustry:Aerospace/Defense
EventDescription:Q42015EarningsCallMarketCapasofEventDate:8.64BPriceasofEventDate:111.98
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WerecommittedtostrategicgrowthandperformanceandandalwayswillingweretoenhancevalueforshareholderssothanksagainforjoiningusthismorningandwelookforwardtospeakingwithyouagaininApril.
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