John Allen Family

Slate Creek

Montgomery County, Kentucky

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Prepared by

5th Great-Grandson Marvin O. Allen

3907 S. Laurel Ct. Bloomington, IN 47401

812-369-4130

March 16, 2015

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Contents Descendants Report 3 Timeline of John Allen Family 8 Fort Boonesborough 12 Fayette County, KY Tax List 13 Clark County, KY Tax List 14 Lulbegrud Baptist Church 15 Marriage to Ann Griffin 16 Marriage Permission 17 Marriage Bond 18 Will 19 Estate Inventory 23 Estate Settlement 28 Land Record 32 Appendix 37

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Descendants Report

First Generation

1. John Allen was born about 1750. He died Jan 1804 at Slate Creek in Montgomery Co., KY.

John married Hannah. She died about 1794.

They had the following children.

+ 2 F i. Catherine "Catron" Allen was born about 1774. She died before 1820.

+ 3 F ii. Sarah "Sally" Allen was born about 1776.

+ 4 M iii. George Allen was born about 1782. He died in 1839.

+ 5 M iv. Joshua Allen was born about 1784. He died about 1830.

+ 6 F v. Hannah Allen was born about 1787. She died after 1850.

7 M vi. William Allen was born about 1789. He died in 1814 in Montgomery Co., KY.

William married Sally.

8 M vii. John Allen Jr. was born about 1791.

John also married Ann Griffin, daughter of Richard Griffin and Mary Brown, on 18 Jun 1794 in Clark Co., KY. Ann was born about 1767 in Virginia. She died about 1826.

They had the following children.

9 F viii. Elizabeth (name uncertain) Allen was born in 1795.

Elizabeth married William H. Forkner, son of Henry D. Forkner and Frances Howell. William was born in 1798.

+ 10 M ix. Richard Allen was born in 1797. He died in 1866.

+ 11 M x. Daniel Allen was born in 1799. He died in Apr 1826.

12 M xi. Elijah Allen was born in 1801 in Montgomery Co., Kentucky.

Elijah married Catherine "Caty" Williams, daughter of Joshua Williams and Catherine Summers "Catey", on 13 Nov 1821 in Floyd Co., KY by William Coffee. Catherine was born in 1800 in Floyd Co., Ky.

Second Generation

2. Catherine "Catron" Allen was born about 1774. She died before 1820 in Montgomery Co., KY.

Catherine married Jonas Forkner, son of William (Faulkner) Forkner and Priscilla Lewis, before 1798. Jonas was born in 1765 in Surry Co., NC. He died in 1826 in Montgomery Co., KY.

They had the following children.

13 M i. William Forkner was born in 1792 in Surry Co., NC. He died in 1822 in Montgomery Co., KY. Note: William may have been born to Jonas first wife.

14 M ii. Squire Forkner was born in 1794 in Surry Co., NC. He died on 19 Sep 1825 in Montgomery Co., KY. Note: Squire may have been born to Jonas first wife.

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15 M iii. Lewis Forkner was born on 1 Apr 1798 in Montgomery Co., KY. He died on 28 Oct 1847 in Brazil, Clay Co., IN. He was buried in Billtown Cemetery, Clay Co., IN.

Lewis married Elizabeth Yocum on 5 Apr 1820. Elizabeth was born on 2 Oct 1800 in Mason Co., KY. She died on 11 Feb 1833 in Brazil, Clay Co., IN.

Lewis also married Rachel Stewart on 12 Apr 1833 in Clay Co., IN. Rachel died in 1849.

16 M iv. John Forkner was born on 5 Sep 1809 in Montgomery Co., KY. He died on 31 Jan 1848 in Clay Co., IN.

John married Nancy Wools, daughter of Daniel Wools and Elizabeth Butts, on 23 Sep 1830 in Clay Co., IN. Nancy was born on 17 Mar 1808 in Kentucky. She died on 9 May 1890 in Clay Co., IN.

17 M v. Hiram Forkner was born on 12 Jun 1812 in Montgomery Co., KY. He died on 19 Dec 1878 in LeGrand, Marshall Co., Iowa.

Hiram married Susannah Lemaster on 11 Jun 1833 in Vigo Co., IN. Susannah was born on 25 Oct 1811 in Indiana.

3. Sarah "Sally" Allen was born about 1776.

Sarah married John White, son of Jonathon White and Ann "Nanny" Martin, before 1804. John was born about 1778. He died in 1826 in Montgomery Co., KY.

They had the following children.

18 M i. John White Jr was born about 1802 in Montgomery Co., KY. He died about 1845 in Callaway Co., MO.

John married Acenith Thompson on 8 Sep 1825 in Montgomery Co., KY. Acenith was born about 1808 in Montgomery Co., KY. She died in 1866 in Jackson Co., CO.

19 M ii. Frederick White was born about 1804 in Montgomery Co., KY. He died in 1843 in Callaway Co., MO.

Frederick married Louisiana Hensley in 1827 in Clark Co., KY. Louisiana was born in 1803. She died after 1860.

20 F iii. Nancy White was born in 1806 in Montgomery Co., KY.

Nancy married John Kitchen on 30 Dec 1822 in Clark Co., KY.

21 F iv. Elizabeth White was born in 1808 in Montgomery Co., KY.

Elizabeth married Benjamin Borgus on 28 Feb 1825 in Clark Co., KY.

22 M v. Peter White was born in 1810 in Montgomery Co., KY.

Peter married Jane "Virginia" Foster on 8 Nov 1843 in Callaway Co., MO.

4. George Allen was born about 1782. He died in 1839 in Bath Co., KY.

George married Barbara "Barbary" Myers, daughter of Henry Myers and Hannah Miller, in 1806 in Montgomery Co., KY. Barbara was born in 1783 in Fayette Co., PA. She died after 1850.

They had the following children.

19 F i. Elizabeth "Betsy" Allen was born in 1806 in Montgomery Co., KY.

Elizabeth married Austin Johnson about 1824. Austin was born about 1805.

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20 M ii. John Allen was born in 1809 in Montgomery Co., KY. He died before 1841 in Hancock Co., IL.

John married GeorgeAnn Botts, daughter of William Botts, on 10 Aug 1833 in Bath Co., KY. GeorgeAnn was born in 1812 in Kentucky.

21 F iii. Louisiana Allen was born in 1813 in Bath Co., KY.

Louisiana married Joseph Morrison McCormick on 17 Sep 1834 in Bath Co., KY. Joseph was born on 7 Dec 1813 in Montgomery Co., KY. He died on 13 Jan 1876.

22 F iv. Melinda Allen was born in 1814 in Bath Co., KY.

Melinda married Joseph Crooks about 1834. Joseph was born in 1814.

5. Joshua Allen was born about 1784. He died about 1830.

Joshua married Eleanor Davenport, daughter of Stephen Davenport and Esther Verlina Wynn, on 12 Jun 1816 in Clark Co., KY. Eleanor was born about 1796 in Frederick Co., VA.

They had the following children.

23 M i. Stephen Allen was born in 1821 in Montgomery Co., KY. Stephen died after 1880 in IN.

Stephen married Ellen Lovelace, daughter of Jeremiah Lovelace and Phoebe Ellen Lipps, in 1848 in Estill Co., KY. Ellen was born in Dec 1830 in Estill Co., KY. She died on 12 Apr 1909 in Clinton, Vermillion Co., IN.

6. Hannah Allen was born about 1787 in Tennessee. She died after 1850 in Illinois.

Hannah married Abraham Downs, son of Robert Downs and Permelia Ingram, about 1810 in Kentucky. Abraham was born in 1788 in Grassy Lick, KY. He died after 1850 in Illinois.

They had the following children.

24 M i. Jacob Downs was born in 1810 in Kentucky.

25 M ii. Robert Downs was born on 15 Dec 1812 in Montgomery Co., KY. He died on 24 Sep 1902 in Edgar Co., Illinois. He was buried in Elledge Holley Cemetery, Edgar Co., IL.

Robert married Nancy Rice Dudley on 25 Nov 1835 in Edgar Co., Illinois. Nancy was born in 1818 in Muhlenberg Co., Kentucky. She died on 30 Aug 1854 in Symmes, Edgar Co., Illinois.

10. Richard Allen was born in 1797 in Montgomery Co., Kentucky. He died in 1866 in Morgan Co., KY. He was buried in Allen Cemetery, Lower White Oak, Magoffin Co., KY.

Richard married Edith "Edy" Williams "Edy", daughter of Rev. Daniel Williams and Violet Crouch, on 20 Jan 1820 in Floyd Co., KY by William Coffee. Edy was born in 1803 in Floyd Co., Ky. She died on 10 Dec 1858 in Morgan Co., KY from consumption. She was buried in Allen Cemetery, Lower White Oak, Magoffin Co., KY.

They had the following children.

26 M i. Daniel Webster Allen was born on 5 Dec 1820 in Floyd Co., Ky. He died on 11 Jan 1912 in Magoffin Co., KY. He was buried in Allen Cemetery, Lower White Oak, Magoffin Co., KY.

Daniel married Susannah Taulbee "Suckey", daughter of John C. Taulbee and Nancy Catherine Hill, on 29 Jul 1841 in Morgan Co., KY. Suckey was born in 1822 in Kentucky. She died in 1891 in Magoffin Co., KY. She was buried in Allen Cemetery, Lower White Oak, Magoffin Co., KY.

Daniel also married Lucinda "Cindie" Burton, daughter of Daniel W. Burton and

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Perlina Taulbee, on 13 Sep 1891 in Magoffin Co., KY. Lucinda was born in Jul 1846 in Kentucky.

27 M ii. Elijah Allen was born on 16 Sep 1822 in Floyd Co., Ky. He died on 5 Jun 1896 in Morgan Co., KY. He was buried in Oney Cemetery, Harper, Morgan Co., KY.

Elijah married Martha Barker, daughter of Williamson Barker "Wilsie or Wills" and Elizabeth Owens, on 3 Oct 1843 in Morgan Co., KY. Martha was born on 6 Feb 1823 in Morgan Co., KY. She died on 21 Oct 1886 in Morgan Co., KY. She was buried in Oney Cemetery, Harper, Morgan Co., KY.

Elijah also married Dorcas Payne, daughter of David Payne, on 16 Jun 1887 in Magoffin Co., KY. Dorcas was born on 1 May 1822 in Tazewell Co., Virginia. She died on 11 Jul 1892 in Magoffin Co., KY.

Elijah may have also married Printha Heise after 11 Jul 1892.

28 F iii. Mary Anne "Polly" Allen was born in Jan 1824 in Morgan Co., KY.

Polly married Caleb William Lykins, son of Peter Lykins and Winnie Williams on 28 Jul 1847 in Morgan Co., KY. Caleb was born in 1823 in Morgan Co., KY.

29 F iv. Violet Allen was born in 1827 in Morgan Co., KY.

Violet married Eli Williams Rev., son of Isaac L. Williams Sr. and Elizabeth "Betsy" Lykins, on 8 Jan 1846 in Morgan Co., KY. Eli was born on 15 Aug 1825 in Morgan Co., KY. He died on 24 Jan 1916 in Magoffin Co., KY.

30 M v. Joseph D. Allen was born in Feb 1829 in Morgan Co., KY. He died in 1907. He was buried in Joseph D. Allen Cemetery.

Joseph married Rebecca Taulbee, daughter of John C. Taulbee and Nancy Catherine Hill, on 20 Nov 1849 in Morgan Co., KY. Rebecca was born in 1830 in Bath Co., Kentucky.

31 F vi. Frances Jane "Frankie" Allen was born on 3 Nov 1831 in Morgan Co., KY. She died on 19 Oct 1913 in Magoffin Co., KY. She was buried in Daniel Gullett Cemetery, Holliday, Morgan Co., KY.

Frankie married Humphrey Cockerham, son of William Cockerham and Elizabeth Hill, about 1852. Humphrey was born in 1824 in North Carolina.

Frankie also married Joseph Wesley Pugh, son of William H. Pugh and Frances Townsend, after 1870. Joseph was born on 24 Feb 1817 in Lee Co., VA. He died on 9 Oct 1877 in Magoffin Co., KY. He was buried in Oney Cemetery, White Oak, Morgan Co., KY.

Frankie also married Josiah Hammons, son of Benjamin Hammons and Sarah Johnson, after 1877. Josiah was born on 20 Apr 1828. He died on 5 Nov 1911. He was buried in Daniel Gullett Cemetery, Holliday, Morgan Co., KY.

32 M vii. George Washington Allen was born in 1835 in Morgan Co., KY. He died in Mar 1867 in Morgan Co., KY.

George married Celia "Selah" Patrick, daughter of Hugh Patrick and Mary Jane Prater, in 1856 in Kentucky. Celia was born on 4 Jul 1836 in Morgan Co., KY. She died on 11 Mar 1914 in Wolfe Co., KY.

33 F viii. Darcus "Darcy" Allen was born in 1837 in Morgan Co., KY.

Darcy married William Barker, son of Williamson Barker "Wilsie or Wills" and Mollie Day, on 3 Nov 1854 in Morgan Co., KY. William was born in Jan 1833.

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34 F ix. Nancy Ellen Allen was born in 1839 in Morgan Co., KY. She died about 1880.

Nancy married William M.(Cockerham) Cochran, son of William Cockerham and Elizabeth Hill, on 10 Oct 1857 in Morgan Co., KY. William was born in 1827. He died before 1878.

35 F x. Rachel Allen was born in 1842 in Morgan Co., KY.

Rachel married William "Willie" Pugh, son of Joseph Wesley Pugh and Jane Bailey "Virginia or Jennie or Janie", on 21 Apr 1859 in Morgan Co., KY. William was born in 1838 in Morgan Co., KY. He died in 1906 in Kentucky. He was buried in White Oak Cemetery, Morgan Co., KY.

11. Daniel Allen was born in 1799 in Montgomery Co., Kentucky. He died in Apr 1826 in Morgan Co., KY.

Daniel married Nancy Hughes, daughter of Absolom Hughes and Betsy, on 27 Feb 1822 in Bath Co., KY. Nancy was born about 1802 in Kentucky. She died in 1840 in Kentucky.

They had the following children.

36 F i. Elizabeth "Betsy" Allen was born in 1822 in Morgan Co., KY.

37 M ii. Daniel Williams Allen was born on 9 Feb 1826 in KY. He died on 9 Apr 1883 in Grundy Co., MO. He was buried in Buried in Stepp Cemetery, Grundy Co., MO..

Daniel married Narcissa J. Pergrem, daughter of James Enoch Pergrem Sr. and Emily Stephens, on 23 Nov 1848 in Bath Co., KY. Narcissa was born on 29 Dec 1827 in Bath Co., KY. She died on 31 Oct 1861 in Grundy Co., MO. She was buried in 1861 in Stepp Cemetery, Grundy Co., MO.

Daniel also married Lucinda Ann Ricketts on 11 Jul 1865 in Grundy Co., Missouri. Lucinda was born on 26 Apr 1827 in Virginia. She died on 5 Aug 1878 in Grundy Co., Missouri. She was buried in 1878 in Stepp Cemetery, Grundy Co., MO.

Daniel also married Frances Ann Dillon on 3 Aug 1879. Frances was born on 21 Mar 1838 in Indiana. She died on 11 Sep 1879 in Grundy Co., Missouri. She was buried in 1879 in Dillon Cemetery, Grundy Co., MO.

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Timeline of John Allen Family 1752: John Allen was born 1740-1755. 1754: French and Indian War began 1763: French and Indian War ended 1773: John Allen married his first wife Hannah. 1774: Lord Dunmores War and Battle of Point Pleasant 1774: Daughter Catherine Catron born. 1775: Revolutionary War began 1775: Fort Boonesborough was established 1776: Daughter Sarah Sally born. 1779: Daniel Boone led 100 people from the Yadkin in North Carolina up Boones Trace through the Cumberland Gap to previously established Boonesborough 1779: An unknown John Allen is tried as a Tory in Montgomery Co., VA 1780: Several John Allens are mentioned in George Rogers Clarks memoirs between 1780-1784 1780: Battle of Kings Mountain 1780: Fayette Co., KY was established 1781: Capt. Billy Bush brought 40 families from Culpeper Co., VA and arrived in Fayette Co., KY in 1783 1781: Scholl Station was established near the Lulbegrud in 1781 or 1782 1782: Son George born. 1782: Battle of Blue Licks 1783: Craigs Travelling Church of several hundred Baptists, including an orphan Joseph Allen, left Spotsylvania Co., VA headed for KY. 1783: Revolutionary War ended 1784: Son Joshua born. 1784: The State of Franklin was established in northeast, TN 1784: A group of 10 families consisting of Allens, Trimbles and Moffetts from Augusta Co., VA grew to 500 by the time they left Bean Station, TN finally settling in Fayette Co., KY.

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1787: Daughter Hannah born in Tennessee. 1788: John Allen arrives in Kentucky with 3 horses and an unknown number of cows. 1789: The State of Franklin was dissolved 1789: Son William born in Fayette Co., Kentucky. 1790: Son John born in Fayette Co., KY. 1790: Mount Sterling was established 1791: Bourbon Iron Furnace established 1792: Kentucky becomes a state 1792: John Allen moved from Fayette Co. to Clark Co. near the headwaters of Hingston & Lulbegrud Creeks. 1793: Clark Co., KY was established 1793: John Allen was one of the founders of the Lulbegrud Baptist church 3rd Saturday March. 1793: Nearby Morgans Station massacre took place April 1st. 1793: Johns wife Hannah was received into the church by letter the 1st Saturday of July. 1793: John Allen was listed with 5 horses and 19 cows and living near Nicholas Anderson, Edward Williams and John Harper August 2nd. 1793: Daughters Catey and Sally were received into the church by experience the 3rd Saturday of December. 1793: John Allens 1st wife Hannah died possibly late in the year. 1794: John Allen was appointed church elder the 3rd Saturday of March. 1794: John Allen married Ann Griffin June 18th. 1795: A daughter possibly named Elizabeth/Ann or Mary was born. 1797: Montgomery Co., KY was established 1797: Son Richard Allen was born in what was now called Montgomery Co. 1798: Daughter Catron married Jonas Fortner 1797-1803. 1799: Son Daniel Allen was born in Montgomery Co. 1799: John Allen purchased 300/518 acres on Slate Creek from David Trimble. 1800: Son-In-Law Jonas Fortner was living in Green Co., KY. 1801: Son Elijah Allen was born.

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1801: Daughter Sally married John White 1799-1802. 1802: The Lulbegrud church began meeting in David Barrows schoolhouse. 1804: John Allen was deathly ill and had his will prepared January 12th. 1804: John Allens will was proven in court January 23rd. 1804: The 1st entry in John Allens estate settlement, Son-In_Law John [Sally] White, was dated January 27th. 1804: The 2nd entry in his estate settlement, son George Allen now 21, was dated January 28th. 1804: John Allens estate inventory was presented to the court February 27th. 1804: The 3rd entry in John Allens estate settlement, Son-In_Law Jonas [Catron] Fortner, was dated May 5th, indicating they must have lived some distance away, probably Green Co., KY. 1805: Son John Allen age 14 early inheritance April 3rd , entry in John Allens estate settlement. 1806: Son George Allen married Barbara Myers. 1806: The Lulbegrud Baptist church built a new church between 1806 and 1810 about a mile from the original church. 1810: Son William Allen January 30th, entry in John Allens estate settlement 1810: Daughter Hannah married Abraham Downs. 1811: Son John Allens note settled October 2nd for early inheritance given in 1805. 1811: Bath Co., KY was established 1812: Son-In_Law Abraham [Hannah] Downs November 9th, entry in John Allens estate settlement. 1812: War of 1812 1812: Son Joshua Allen and Son-In-Law John White fought in the War of 1812. 1814: Son William Allen died without any children leaving widow Sarah. 1816: Son Joshua married Eleanor Davenport June 12th. 1818: Son-In_Law William [unknown daughter, possibly named Elizabeth turns 21] Forkner August 30th, entry in John Allens estate settlement. 1818: Mt. Sterling's earliest newspaper, the Kentucky Laurel, was established 1819: John & Sally (Allen) White and George & Barabara (Myers) Allen were mentioned on a 44.25 acre Montgomery Co. land sale on Greenbriar Cr. to Mile D. Orear in November.

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1820: Daughter Catron died before 1820. 1820: Son Richard Allen moved to Floyd Co. and married Edy Williams January 20th. 1820: John Allens estate officially settled with Montgomery Co. court August 30th. 1821: Son Elijah Allen moved to Floyd Co. and married Caty Williams November 13th. 1822: Son Daniel Allen married Nancy Hughes February 27th in Bath Co. 1825: Daughter Sally (Allen) White died after 1820 but before 1825. 1826: Son Daniel Allen died in April. 1826: Son-In-Law John White died. 1826: Son-In_Law Jonas Fortner died. 1826: Court record dated March 18th conveyed John Allens 510 acres on Slate Creek to his heirs, sugggesting John Allens widow Ann must have died. 1829: Son Joshua Allen died after 1820 but before 1830. 1839: Son George Allen died in Bath Co. 1850: Daughter Hannah Downs died in IL after 1850 but before 1860.

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Ft. Boonesborough

John Allen is listed on all current Ft. Boonesborough settler lists, including the monument in the Ft. Boonesborough State Park in Madison Co., KY.

There is no evidence John Allen ever lived within the walls of the fort itself, nor was he listed on original lists of Ft. Boonesborough settlers. He and numerous others were added to the list of Ft. Boonesborough settlers by Judge French Tipton in the papers he compiled during the 1880s.

Tipton had collected notes over several decades about early Fayette County intending to eventually write a history of Fayette County. However, he was killed during a confrontation with a rival newspaper editor before accomplishing the task.

I requested and received copies of Tipton's original notes referencing John Allen at Fort Boonesborough but was not able to ascertain Tipton's basis for including John Allen in his list of settlers. It is possible Tiptons reasoning was several John Allens mentioned in George Rogers Clarks memoirs between 1780 and 1784. See appendix page 34. It may also have been the 1788 Fayette Co. tax list discussed on the following page.

Ft. Boonesborough was established on the south bank of the Kentucky River by Daniel Boone in 1775. At that time, all of present day Kentucky was known as Fincastle County, Virginia. After several reorganizations of the counties in that area, Ft. Boonesborough came to rest at the north boundary of Madison County where it remains today. The Kentucky River separates Madison Co. to the south and Fayette Co. to the north.

From 1788 tax records we can see John Allen lived somewhere near Ft. Boonesborough but on the north side of the Kentucky River in Fayette County. It would seem John must have arrived with his family in 1787 or 1788, as he is not shown on the 1787 Fayette tax list or any other county with available tax records in Kentucky. Unfortunately, any earlier tax records do not seem to have been preserved.

Many of the settlers living near John later in Clark Co. are also found on these Fayette Co. tax lists and will be discussed later. There does not appear to be any connection to Richard and Thomas Allen also listed on the Ft. Boonesborough monument. See appendix page 81.

Extensive research surrounding this John Allen on Ft. Boonesborough settler lists has not produced any information that would contradict this being our John Allen.

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Fayette County, KY 1788 Tax List 1788 is the first we can say our John Allen was in KY with a high level of confidence. There is a John Allen listed in 1787, but he has slaves. I believe he is the Judge John Allen who migrated to KY in 1786, lived in Paris, KY and died in 1816.

The specific date people were enumerated implies those recorded the same day lived very close. We can see John must have lived near Nicholas Anderson, Edward Williams and John Harper. In addition John Summars and John Treadway were also listed in Fayette. John Allen was later associated with these same men in Clark Co. on those tax lists and other documents.

Johns location in Fayette Co. in 1788 may have been directly across the Kentucky River from Ft. Boonesborough in Madison Co. John is shown with one tithable (himself) and 3 horses. Apparently, cattle were not enumerated in 1788.

The following totals may help put the population of 1788 Fayette Co. into perspective. There were 237 white males over 21 years of age, 363 blacks of all ages, 912 horses and 2,364 head of cattle. Other Allens listed in 1788 include Elisha, Joseph, Richard and Sylvanus Allen, who apparently did not live close to John Allen.

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Clark County, KY 1793 Tax List This tax list places John Allen near Andersons Station and the Lulbegrud Baptist church a few miles south of todays Mt. Sterling in Montgomery Co. John was enumerated with 5 horses and 19 head of cattle but owned no land. This tells us there were at least 5 persons in the household capable of using a horse.

The same settlers living near John in Fayette Co. were living near him in Clark Co.; Edward Williams, Nicholas Anderson, Peter Harper, Peter Dewitt, John Summers, Richard Griffin and others. Edward Williams and Nicholas Anderson had acquired land in Clark Co. through 1779 preemptions but apparently felt it unsafe to move their families there until 1792. The tax list shows Nicholas Anderson with 800 acres of land. His homestead must have been fortified to some extent and was known as Andersons Station. Other Allens in Clark Co. in 1793 include Josiah, Isham and Winefred Allen. None seemingly lived close to John Allen.

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Lulbegrud Baptist Church The Lulbegrud Baptist church was established by 20 unnamed United Baptists somewhere near the headwaters of Lulbegrud Creek the 3rd Saturday March 1793.

There is a lengthy list at the front of males, females and blacks, however these names appear to have been listed some years later in no particular order.

There are a number of men and women referred to in the minutes as Brother and Sister without having been mentioned as being received by the church. I believe those, including John Allen, would be among the founding members and are listed in the transcribed minutes in the appendix beginning on page 48.

It might be noted that the wives of some of these Brothers, e.g., Mary Griffin, Hester Griffin, Vilolet Williams, Jemimah Williams and others are never mentioned in the minutes at all. It is unlikely a husband would be a member without his wife being a member. The fact that they are not mentioned simply means they were probably among the 20 founders but were not in a leadership role or did anything requiring mention. We only find men asking questions and giving answers in the minutes.

On the other hand, we do see a few Sisters being accepted by the church without mention of a husband. This reverse scenario may not have been too unusual. The number of women listed at the front of the minutes is more than twice the number of men.

There are also numerous people in the lists at the front who were never mentioned within the minutes. That simply means those people didnt do anything requiring them to be mentioned.

The churchs minutes provide a number of references to our Allen family. Since John Allen is the only male Allen mentioned, we can be fairly certain all these references are to members of his family. There were no entries for April and May 1793. The massacre at nearby Morgans Station occurred on April 1, 1793, and area settlers retreated to nearby forts for safety. See appendix page 83.

Sister Hannah Allen was received by letter the 1st Saturday July 1793. Some researchers have wondered if Hannah was John Allens wife or mother. Others have thought she was Johns daughter Hannah, who would have only been 7 years old at that time. The reference to Sister Hannah tells us she had been previously baptized and had been a member of another Baptist church that had given her a letter of dismission. We are fairly certain Hannah was in fact our John Allen's wife who apparently died by Jun 1794 when John married Ann Griffin.

Then daughters Catey and Sally Allen are mentioned in the minutes when they were received by experience and baptism the 3rd Saturday December 1793.

John is first mentioned in the Lulbegrud churchs minutes when he and John Summars, Sr. were appointed elders the 3rd Saturday of March 1794. Since John is not previously mentioned in the minutes as being received, we can assume he was one of the founding members when the church was established a year earlier.

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Marriage to Ann Griffin

Johns 1st wife, possibly Hannah, must have died in late 1793 or early 1794, because John married Ann

Griffin June 18, 1794. I dont believe he would have stayed unmarried long because he was left with several young children. John Jr. would have only been 3 and William only 5 years of age.

Johns marriage record to Ann Griffin took place June 18, 1794. Ann is not mentioned in the Lulbegrud

church minutes, but her father Richard and brother Anthony are mentioned several times.

Actually no marriages are mentioned at all in the Lulbegrud church minutes and must not have been

considered official church business. Most pioneer weddings took place in the brides home.

A 1793-1886 Marriage Register in the Clark County courthouse lists Elijah Summers as the preacher that married John and Ann Jun 18, 1794. One of the duties of the licensed preacher was to file a record of the marriage at the county courthouse.

In John Sharps book Raccoon Smith page 140, when discussing the Separate Baptist churches in this area, he says Blue Ash or Bethel, which Summers gathered about 1794 probably with Williams's help, a little to the east near Slate Creek14.

John and Ann moved to Slate Creek around 1799 and may have joined a different church at that point.

Brother Elijah Summars and his wife Philadolphia and Penellipha Summars had been received by letter the third Saturday of December 1793. Elijah is last mentioned in the minutes September 1795, which coincides with John Sparks comment above.

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Richard Griffins Permission for Ann Griffin to marry John Allen Richard Griffin gave permission for his daughter Ann to marry John June 18, 1794. The Griffins were also members of the Lulbegrud Baptist church. They had moved to Kentucky from the Prince Edward, Charlotte and Lunenburg area of Virginia. Based on her fathers permission statement, it would appear Ann was not yet 21 years of age when she married John Allen.

Transcription: June the 18th 1794 this is to certify that I have given liberty to you to grant to my daughter John Allean lisons of marriage as I cant mak it consent to com myself given under my hand the date above mentioned Richard Griffin teste John Treadway

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John Allens 1794 Marriage Bond John Allens Marriage Bond is also dated June 18, 1794 and was signed by John, as well as John Treadway, another prominent member of the Lulbegrud church. John Allen himself, had just been appointed church elder a few months earlier on March 3, 1794. A marriage bond was an official notification of a grooms intention to marry and that he was free to do so, i.e., not already married. While no money was actually exchanged when the marriage bond was posted, the groom would have to pay the amount of the bond should he fail to follow through with the marriage.

Transcription: Know all men by these presents that John Allen and John Treadway are held firmly bound unto Isaac Shelby Governor of Kentucky in the sum of fifty pounds to which to this governor or his we bind ourselves our heirs exec & a jointly & severaly firmly by their presents & also this 18th day of June 1794 The condition of this above obligation is such that whereas this is a marriage shortly intended to be had solemnized between bound Jno Allen & Ann Griffin this obligation remains inforce sealed & Presence of John Allen John Treadway

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John Allens 1804 Will

Johns will dated January 12, 1804 was witnessed by John Treadway, as well as his brother-in-law Anthony

Griffin.

From the Lulbegrud church minutes, we can see John Treadway and Anthony Griffin were active in the

church through at least 1804 when the minutes end, which suggests John Allen was still closely associated

with them and the Lulbegrud church.

There is nothing in Johns will suggesting his age. He only says he is in a low state of health which implies

he was sick and might not survive. It is important to note he had purchased 510 acres just 4-5 years earlier.

Such a property, combined with all the livestock listed in his estate inventory, suggests John felt he was up

to the task of farming and not approaching old age.

John had also fathered two sons in the previous 5 years, which doesnt necessarily mean he was still middle aged, but does open that possibility.

It would appear John had died by January 23rd the date the will was proven in court. It is presumed John

was buried on the farm at Slate Creek near Jeffersonville.

Summarizing Johns will, his wife Ann was to receive the farm, household furniture and all the livestock.

Catron and Sarah received 10 pounds each. Then each child, the rest unnamed, was to receive 10 pounds

when they reached 21.

Since bonding for the executors was set at 400 pounds, we can assume that was the estimated value of

Johns estate, at least prior to his estates inventory.

We have assumed daughters Catron Fortner and Sarah White were 21 at the time of Johns death, since his

will says paying Catron Fortner and Sarah White ten pounds a piece with what they have received. But is it

possible they were mentioned in this way only because they were both married and no longer at home?

The statement also implies they had already been given something else, perhaps a dowry at marriage?

Unfortunately, Johns will does not mention the names of his other children, only that they are to each

receive 10 pounds when they come of age. It is only through his later estate settlement that we are able to

acquire their names.

To put 10 pounds in perspective; at that time a typical horse might have a value of 10 pounds, a cow or rifle

might be worth 3 pounds.

By the time the estate settlement was being recorded, values were being expressed in dollars. From that we

can see 10 pounds was worth $33.33 by 1820.

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MONTGOMERY COUNTY WILL BOOK A PAGE 149 January the twelfth day one thousand eight hundred four I John Allen being in a low state of health but of sound judgment do leave this as my last Will and Testament, first I commit my soul to God who gave it and my body to the dust from whence it was taken as for my worldly affairs I do will and bequeath to my well beloved wife Ann Allen my plantation with all Kitchen and Household furniture and all stock with paying Catron Fortner and Sarah White ten pounds a piece with what they have received and the rest of my children ten pounds a piece as they come of age and the rest of my estate I do will to my beloved wife her lifetime or as long as she remains a widow and at her decease or marriage to fall to my children by equal division the conducting of which I leave to my Executors MONTGOMERY COUNTY WILL BOOK A PAGE 150 do witness my hand and seal John Allen John Tredaway Anthony Griffin Teste Isaac Lykins James Lacey William Lykins At a Court held for Montgomery County the 23rd day of January 1804. This last will and Testament of John Allen Deceased was proven by the oaths of Isaac Lykins, James Lacey and William Lykins witnesses thereto Subscribed and ordered to be Recorded, And on the motion of John Treadaway and Anthony Griffin the executors therein named who made oath thereto as the Law directs and together with Richard Griffin and Jonas Fortner their securities entered into and taken xx their bond in the amount of 400 pounds Conditions as the law directs certificates granted them for obtaining a probate thereof in due ?? Teste M Harrison C.M.C.

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John Allens 1804 Estate Inventory Johns estate inventory was presented to the court February 27, 1804. It was witnessed by Tobias James, John Stephens and James Lacy. It sheds quite a bit of light on a Kentucky pioneers life and the items important to their survival. There are names that are no longer used for numerous items. I had some luck researching what Lewis & Clark took on their trip west in 1804 1805. It would seem reasonable to assume nearly everything on Johns estate inventory was brought with him on his trip to Kentucky and must have required more than a few horses to carry such items. Some of the more striking items listed: The land and plantation was valued at 100 pounds just 4 years after its purchase for 50 pounds. Improvements probably included a cabin, barn, sheds and stone fences. See page 28 for more discussion about the land. 2 sets of bedroom furniture, a Table and 4 chairs (a wifes touch) A sundial (probably small brass palm sized and may have included a compass) 4 books

From Waddells Annals of Augusta County, Virginia; Jean (Allen) Trimbles diary, All rode upon horses, and upon other horses were placed the farming and cooking utensils, beds and bedding, wearing apparel, provisions, and last, but not least, the libraries, consisting of two Bibles, half a dozen Testaments, the Catechism, the Confession of Faith of the Presbyterian Church, and the Psalms of David. Each man and boy carried his rifle and ammunition, and each woman her pistol, for their long journey was mostly through a wilderness, and that infested by savages.

Bibles were costly in those days. During colonial times, the printing of the English version in America was prohibited, and a heavy duty was laid on copies imported.

A loom and other items related to turning sheeps wool into clothing Only 1 gun

Every man and every boy old enough to use a gun was required to have one. Johns sons must have already acquired one.

Only 2 horses, both mares, and 2 saddles

Johns sons must have already gotten their horses. A large variety of livestock and fowl.

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Transcription: Page 156 Inventory of The Estate of John Allen Decd 8 head of hogs 7 shoats 6 head of hogs 7 shoats five hogs 2 Yearling Calves 1 red & white heifer1 cow red & white 1 Cow Black & White & calf? 1 Black Cow 1 Black Steer 1 Black & White cow & calf? one gray mare 1 black mare 10 head of sheep The Land & plantation 1 Rife gun Shot pouch & horn 1 dutch oven & lid? 1 pot & hooks 1 pot 1 skillet 1 pr fire tongs 1 Iron chain 1 food adz 1 drawing knife 1 hand saw 2 Augers & 2 hurdles? 1 froe 2 axes 1 shovel

Part of a steel trap Flint? forks & ladle 1 Womans Saddle 20 Ducks 7 Geese 1 Bridle 4 Books 4 Chairs 1 Sifter 1 Bedstead bed & furniture 1 half bushell? 3 friggens & bucket 1 collar 1 pack saddle 2 Kettles 1 pr Truck wheels 1 pepper Box 13 3/4 of pure? tea 1 Quart Baron 1 pr Wool Cards 1 Soup Spoon 1 Clevis pd pewter? 6 tin cups 6 knives & forks 1 Small Stand to die in 1 Canteen 3 pd Clean Salt petre? 1 Small ___?___ no ___?___

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Page 157 Inventory of The Estate of John Allen Decd 9 Sows 7 Shoats 19 piggs 4 Cart wheel boxes 110.4 12 Gallon kettle 1 plow 1 Cotton wheel 1 Chick reel 1 pr Cotton Cards 1 Flour wheel 1 Table 1 pr Stirrup Irons earthen ware 1 hoe 1 Churt? 16g of Salt petre? three tubs 1 Churn 2 Wash tubs 2 Juggs 1 Canteen 12 Tallow Four bags 2 bucketts 6 Feathers Bedstead bed & f. Ditto 2 pices leather

1 Bell Collar & buckle 1 pr Saddle Bags 1 Saddle tree 2 bottles 4 Slays & pr Harness? 2 bare skins & horse hide 1 Loom 1 Box Iron 1 pr Sheirs 1 Grubing Hoe Old Iron & nails 1 Sun dial Tobias Jones James Lacey I do hereby certify that Tobias Jones John Stephens and James Lacey was sworn to before me to appraise the estate of John Allen decd. Given under my hand This 27th Feby. 1804 Is Housley At a court held for Montgomery County this 27th Feby 1804 This Inventory & Appraisal of the estate of John Allen decd was recd Into Court & Order to be recorded Teste M Harrison Clerk Montgomery County January Court 1804 Henry Mires Tobias James John Stephens & James Lacey ___?___ ___?______?______?______?___ being first duty ___?______?___ are ordered to appraise ___?___ money the Star ___?___ ___?___ the inventory thereof to the next Court ___?___ Teste M Harrison C.M.C.

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John Allens 1804 to 1820 Estate Settlement

The first entry on Johns estate settlement was dated January 27, 1804 for John White, Johns

daughter Sarah/Sallys husband. Son George is entered January 28, 1804, and daughter Catrons husband Jonas Fortner is entered May 5, 1804. From this we know the 3 of them have already

turned 21.

The other 4 children by his 1st marriage are then listed over the next 8 years as each of them turns

21. Joshua/Josiah in 1805, Hannahs husband Abraham Dowden in 1812, William in 1810 and John

Jr. in 1812.

The settlement with Johns 3 sons Richard, Daniel and Elijah by Ann Griffin isnt clear. There does appear to be wording regarding them at the bottom of page 1, other legatees given when under 21

years of age taken up by the executors . This may mean those 3 sons were given something of a

lessor value as they were growing up, perhaps a horse?

Although Johns will stated values in pounds, by the time of his settlement values were being stated

in dollars and cents. 10 pounds = $33.33 at that time.

It should be recognized that pioneer settlers didnt really have much if any cash. The monetary

reference was used to set a value to property. For example, a son or daughter might have received

a cow or a few head of swine if their value had been set at 10 pounds by the executors. Buying and

selling was done in goods and services by pioneers.

The last Estate Settlement entry was dated 1818 when Johns 1st child by Ann, a daughter, turned 21. The settlement was, of course, listed in her husbands name William Forkner. Then the settlement is closed out in 1820 with the reference to John Allens other legatees under 21 as mentioned above.

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Transcription: WILL BOOK B, PAGE 355 The estate of John Allen dec'd xx to John Treadway Exec of the estate of the Said Decedant August 30, 1820. 1804 Jan 27 ^ To John White xx 10 pounds one of the Legatees of said decedant ^ $33.33 1/3 28 ^ To George Allen one of the Legatees of the said decedant 10 pounds xx ^ $33.33 1/3 March 5th ^ To Jonas Forkner one of the Legatees of the said decedant xx 10 pounds ^ $33.33 1/3 1805 Apr 3 ^ To John Allen one of the Legatees of the said decedant xx 10 pounds ^ $33.33 1/3 1810 Jan 30 ^ To William Allen one of the Legatees of the said decedant xx 10 pounds ^ $33.33 1/3 1812 Nov 9th ^ To Abraham Downs one of the Legatees of the said decedant xx 10 pounds ^ $33.33 1/3 1818 Aug 30th ^ To William Forkner one of the Legatees of the said decedant xx 10 pounds ^ $33.33 1/3 1815 Oct 5th ^ To Moses Thomas $8.90 in part of an Exec xx against Ann Allen widow of said decedant an xx in the Montgomery Circuit Court on xx xx ^ $8.90 1801 Nov 16 (date o note xx) ^ To Mark Lacey on note given by the dec'd xx xx Lacey & xx xx 1.14 pounds xx 1.17 pounds ^ $6.21 1804 July 2nd ^ To John Lacy xx 2.2.0 pounds ^ $7.00 July 25 ^ To Caleb Cash xx 1.6.0 pounds ^ $6.00 2nd Oct 1811 ^ To xx xx note of John Allen one of the Legatees given when under 21 years of age taken up by the Executors since xx xx John Allen came of age xx 10 pounds ^ $33.33 1/3 To the executors for their trouble and service ^ $33.33 1/3 ^^ $328.11 WILL BOOK B, PAGE 356 In obedience to an order of the Montgomery County Court directing us to settle with John Treadway executor of John Allen dec'd the forgoing amount was xx to us by John Treadaway Anthony Griffin not being present and xx allowed xx the whole as xx and xx vouchers as done before us is xx herewith xx as xx xx the date above. James French A Payne Isaac Faurotte Montgomery County Court xx 2 xx 1820 This settlement of accounts with John Treadway Executor of John Allen deceased was this day xx to the court xx xx order to xx which is done accordingly

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John Allens 1799 purchase of 510 acres on Slate Creek

In 1799 John purchased 510 acres on Slate Creek where he died in 1804. This suggests he was still young enough to take on what was surely a large amount of work establishing a new homestead. The land was about 8 miles southeast from Anderson's Station.

1826 Montgomery County clerk record In reading this document, it appears that even though John bought his 510 acres from David Trimble in 1799, he had never followed through with all the legal filing requirements before he died in 1804. This document essentially means David Trimble is relinquishing all rights to the property to John Allens heirs and legal representatives in lieu of the 50 pounds John had paid David earlier. What we dont know is why this legal proceeding took place in 1826. It may mean that Johns widow Ann had just died and as the property was being sold or transferred, it was discovered it didnt have a clear legal title. It doesnt seem too likely Ann would be remarrying after being a widow 22 years. Johns 1804 will stated that should his widow Ann pass away or remarry, the estate would then be divided among his heirs. It could be possible Ann was moving in with a son or daughter and was trying to legally transfer ownership of the land to her children. As near as I can determine 50 pounds for 510 acres might have been a relatively low price in 1799. Much would have depended on water availability and soil conditions. None the less, one cant help but wonder if some sort of relationship existed between John Allen and David Trimble. The seemingly low price, a land transaction based on trust and other connections between Allens and Trimbles (see appendix page 111) seem more than coicidence. It is interesting that Montgomery Co. tax lists in the 1820s show Ann Allens land valued at one dollar per acre and classified as grade 3, the lowest grade. Similar properties are valued at 4 to 7 times as much, leading me to believe older widows were given a substantial tax break. A mile and a half of only slightly rolling terrain along Slate Creek would not be a low grade of land. As stated earlier, all early Montgomery Co. vital, circuit court and land records were lost in courthouse fires in 1851 and 1863. Only county clerk records, including wills, have survived. Even though this record involves land, it was, fortunately, recorded by the county clerk. This land would have been ideal for raising the livestock listed on Johns estate appraisal. Besides cows, quite a number of sheep, hogs, geese and ducks were listed. We are also fortunate this record details the legal description of John Allens 510 acres.

Beginning at two maples on the bank of Slate Creek corner to Isaac Lykins thence meandering with his line S 30 W. 80 poles to a white oak corner to said Lykins and John Craig Thence with Craig line S 23 W his corner in all 510 poles to a Stake in James Frenchs line Thence with his line East 288 poles to two white oaks on the bank of Slate Creek thence down the Creek with the several meanders thereof and binding on the same to the beginning

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Poles are the same as rods or 16 feet long. An important point to note in this description is that when a metes and bounds surveyor says down the creek, this means toward the creeks headwaters. In this instance, down the creek means north along Slate Creek toward its mouth up at Wyoming, Bath County, KY.

John and Anns 510 acres would have been just east of Jeffersonville and about 3 miles west of the Montgomery-Menifee County line.

Henry and Hannah Myers lived about a mile south. John's son George married their daughter Barbary in 1806. Henry and Hannah are buried in a cemetery just off KY 599.

The Sycamore Baptist church, founded by Daniel Williams, was about a mile west and was almost certainly the church John and his family attended after moving to Slate Creek.

More than 50 smaller creeks empty into Slate Creek along its 75 mile journey from its mouth up at Wyoming in Bath Co. to its headwaters down in Menifee Co. See appendix page 87.

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Transcription: Page 309 [Transferer or Trustee]? David Trimble Sr to decd John Allen Heirs Examined X This Indenture made and entered into this eighteenth day of March in the year of our lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty six between David Trimble senior of the county of Montgomery and State of Kentucky, of the one part and the heirs and legal representation of John Allen decd of the State aforesaid of the other part, that the aforesaid David Trimble for and in consideration of the sum of fifty pounds to him in hand? paid? by the aforesaid John Allen in his life time now deceased the receipt whereof is hereby acknowledged granted conveyed and do by these presents grant convey and confirmed unto the aforesaid heirs legal representatives of the aforesaid John Allen decd, a certain tract or parcel of land by survey containing five hundred and ten acres, lying in Montgomery on the waters of Slate Creek it being a part of James Frenchs survey, and bounded as follows (To wit) Beginning at two maples on the bank of Slate Creek corner to Isaac Lykins thence meandering with his line S 30 W. 80 poles to a white oak corner to said Lykins and John Craig Thence with Craig line S 23 W his corner in all 510 poles to a Stake in James Frenchs line Thence with his line East 288 poles to two white oaks on the bank of Slate Creek thence down the Creek with the several meanders thereof and binding on the same to the beginning, to have and to hold the aforesaid tract or parcel of land with all and singularly the appurtenances, improvements and conveniences thereunto belonging, and aforesaid David Trimble Sr for himself his heirs, executors, administrators forever warrant and defend? the aforesaid tract or parcel of land unto the aforesaid heirs and legal representatives of John Allen, Decd against the claim of him the aforesaid David Trimble Sr his heirs, executors, administrators and from all and every person or persons claiming by through or under him or his heirs and if the aforesaid tract or parcel of land should be lost or taken by Page 310 any other prior or better claim the aforesaid David Trimble Sr is to refund back the purchase money with lawful interest thereas from the year one thousand seven hundred and ninety nine. In testimony whereof the party of the first part have hereunto set his hand and affixes his seal this day and the date above written. Atteste David Trimble Geo. S. Hampton DC State of Kentucky Montgomery C9ounty Clerks Office March 18th 1826 I George S. Hampton deputy Clerk for Micajah Harrison Clerk of the Court for the bounty aforesaid, Do hereby certify that this deed of conveyance from David Trimble Sr to the heirs and legal representatives of John Allen, decd was this day to me in the office aforesaid and acknowledged by the said David Trimble Sr to be his act and hence and seal for the purposes therein named, whereupon the same is duly entered of record in said office as the law directs. Attest: George S. Hampton, DC

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Appendix George Rogers Clark Memoirs 38 Land Grants 40 State of Franklin 42 Bush Settlement 45 Andersons Station 47 Lulbegrud Baptist Church 52 Allied Families 82 Other Kentucky Allens 85 Nearby Places 87 Family Legends 92 Cemeteries 95 18th Century John Allen Marriages in Colonial America 97 Allens in Kentucky before 1800 105 Enumerations 112 Speculation 114 My Line of Descent 119 Connecting Richard Allen to John Allen and Ann Griffin 120

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George Rogers Clark Memoirs

The John Allens mentioned in Clark's memoirs would have lived in the Ohio River Valley area of western Virginia, eastern Ohio, northern Kentucky and southern Indiana. It is possible one of these John Allens is my 5th great-grandfather.

In 1776, George Rogers Clark, already a renowned Indiana fighter, was given responsibility for defending Kentucky, then a county of Virginia, from violent Indian attacks. This was during the Revolutionary War, and much of the Indian animosity toward Kentucky settlers was instigated by the British out of forts in what are now Indiana, Illinois and Michigan. Clark is especially renowned for taking the British forts at Kaskaskia (southern Illinois) and Vincennes (southern Indiana).

During this time, Clark recruited hundreds of men for his militias. Many men are mentioned, although their locations are not always clear. These papers list a number of Allens apparently in the early Kentucky area, although some may have been up the Ohio River in western Pennsylvania and northwest Virginia. Some of the soldiers mentioned were no doubt single men, while those mentioned as supplying goods may have been family men.

Only references to John Allens are shown below. I have a copy of the complete document with references to all Allens, which include a Samuel, Isaac, Nathan, James, David, Reener, William, Joshua, Henry, Herman, Elisha, Elijah and Thomas.

The John Allens probably represent several different John Allens. It isn't obvious from the list below, but from my complete document it becomes apparent these John Allens were in different places. The first one mentioned is apparently deceased. One John Allen is in a position to provide iron. Another worked with pack horses.

In some records Clark has referenced a John Allen, Jr and John Allen, Younger, which implies there must have been another John Allen considered John Allen Sr.

I have reason to believe one of these John Allens, a soldier, was the father of the John Allen born 1791 who married Nancy Ford in Woodford Co., KY in 1817 and moved to Bath Co, dying there in 1853. Is it possible that this John Allen mentioned in Clarks memoirs is the son of Lt. Hugh Allen who died at Point Pleasant in 1774?

7952-5-46-47-November 22, 1780: Top document. Faded. Reference to continental currency, late estate of John Allen, flannel, blue cloth, shirts and Clarksville. Names: Leonard Helm, Capt. John Dodge, Silas Harlan [Harland], Capt. James Prigg?

10247-6-554-555-April 30, 1781: Second document. Reference to iron received from John Allen for use of George Rogers Clark expedition. Names: Samuel Seuelt?

10265-6-564-565-April 29, 1781: Bottom document. Receipt for iron. Names: John Allen, Joseph Parkison.

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11467-6-1342-1343-June 23, 1781: Second document. Commonwealth of Virginia account with John Allen for 3 months working driving bullocks and pack horses at boats. Names: Peter Triplett.

11469-6-1342-1343-June 25, 1781: Bottom document. Commonwealth of Virginia account with John Allen for driving bullocks and pack horses for boats.

12099-7-402-404-July 21, 1781: Top document. Duplicate filming. Indian meal. Names: Andrew Heath, John Allen, Joseph Parkison

13329-8-186-187-September ?, 1781: Third document. John Allen was paid $900. Names: William Clark.

13449-8-339-341-October ?, 1781: Commonwealth of Virginia account. Items purchased and names of persons supplying such. Items: hemp, express service, ferriage, whiskey, blacksmith work, making bags, tar, bacon, oats, gimlets, beef cattle, corn, pasture, planks, flour. Names: William Steward, William Crawford, Jacob Pindell, George Blakison, John Rogers, Joseph Chamberlain, Francis Newill, James Moody, Joseph McCaffe, Samuel Wilson, William McKee, Joseph Smith, John Stephenson, Benjamin Whaley, Joseph Rogers, David Mortan, Nathan Shannon, Hugh Newill, George Jasmoon, David Scott, John John, Bill Crawford, John Bell, Rich Hughs, Peter Triplett, Thomas Ball, James Harmon?, John Ballenshall, Isaac Pue?, Benjamin Kuykendall, John Allen, Thomas Bell, Charles Brandford, Gilbert Simpson, Christopher Graybill, Joseph McDowell.

15287-9-479-481-April 23, 1782: Letter from John Montgomery at Richmond, Virginia to Treasurer John Allen. Reference to bills of exchange, Oliver Pollock, horses, Capt. John Dodge, Mr. Molvost, General George Rogers Clark.

15304-9-505-506-April 8, 1782: George Slaughter certified wages due to the following men: Daniel Johnson, Mason Johnson, Joseph Cornell, Benjamin Tailor, Ebin Parker, Daniel Congil, John Neal, John Rose, William Long, ? Butler, Edward Thomas, James Ballenger, James McQuigley, John West, Peter Triplet, Henry Foster, Franklin Zimmerman, Jr., John Angel, John Burroughs, Charles Asher?, William Abbott, William Abbott, Jr., John Allen, Jr., John Allen Younger, several names too faded to read.

15310-9-515-517-April 8, 1782: List of non-commissioned officers and privates discharged with date of enlistment. Names: John Burroughs, James Ballard, William Dennis?, Daniel Colvin, Madison Colvin, Joseph Cornell, Benjamin Taylor, Ebin Porter, Daniel Congil, John Neil, John Rose, William Long, Richard Taleferro, Edward Thomas, James Ballenger, Samuel McQuidy, John West, Robert Triplet, Henry Foster, Fred Zimmerman, John Angel, Francis Nash, Charles Asher, William Abbot, William Abbot, Jr., ? Mitchell, William Mitchell, John Allen Jr., John Allen, Younger.

16142-9-1146-1153-July 26, 1782: Duplicate filming. Very faded. Appears to be account of Benjamin Little. Items: Beef, flour, corn, rye, bags, whiskey. Names: Hans Hamilton, John Allen, James Stephenson, John Robinson, John Harrison, Will Harrison, Richard Wallace, J. Carney, Benjamin Wells, Capt. Carney.

18733-11-1223-1224-August 30, 1784: Pay of John Allen for service in [Capt. Richard] Brashear from May 30, 1780 to October 4, 1780.

Source: Sons of the Revolution in the State of Illinois

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Land Grants

The given name John and the surname Allen were popular names in Colonial times resulting in numerous John Allens at every turn. For example, the DAR has registered 52 Revolutionary War veteran John Allens among the 13 Colonies, complete with death dates. Since we have our John Allen's will and estate settlement papers, we can be certain he was none of those John Allens.

Actually, we don't know if John Allen was a war veteran or not. Since he died in 1804, he did not live long enough to apply for a pension. Pensions first became available in 1818 for wounded veterans, but most of those were soon rescinded. In 1832 pensions were made available for both living veterans and their widows.

Our John Allen should have been of an age appropriate for enlistment in the Revolutionary War which lasted from 1775 to 1783. We do know his last 4 children by his 1st wife were born between 1782 and 1790. His 1st 2 children were born in 1774 and 1776, although this is only a best estimate for those 2 daughters. There is a possible gap between 1776 and 1782 that could be explained by military service, but this would only be an unsupported guess.

We have identified several John Allens with dealings in Kentucky prior to 1792. Quite a few more John Allens arrive in the same area in the years immediately following statehood in 1792 further confusing matters.

One way we might ascertain if John was a veteran is if he had received a military bounty land grant for land in Kentucky issued by Virginia. Most states were unable to pay their soldiers for military service and issued military bounty land grant for service in the French and Indian War, Revolutionary War and War of 1812. Virginia issued their warrants for land in Kentucky, then a sparsely settled part of Virginia.

The size of land grants was related to a soldiers rank. Privates usually received 100 acres with officers receiving up to several thousand acres. To be eligible, it was necessary to have served a minimum of three years in the Continental Army. Any service in a militia did not qualify a veteran for a bounty land grant. This restriction applied only to land grants not later military pensions.

It should be noted that North Carolina issued their bounty land grants in what is now Tennessee, which was then a sparsely settled territory of North Carolina. As a result of these arrangements, the majority of early Kentucky settlers were from Virginia.

There were other ways of acquiring Land in early Kentucky. For a time Virginia encouraged settlement in Kentucky by issuing land grants to anyone who would move there, build a cabin and raise a crop. This occurred mostly just before and early into the Revolutionary War, which broke out in 1776.

With this in mind, we have researched early Kentucky land grants of all types to Allens, particularly John and George Allens. There is reason to suspect a George Allen might have been connected to John in some way, perhaps a brother or father.

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Early land records show several instances naming a John Allen. Understanding the dates on various documents pertaining to a property can be confusing due to warranty dates, grant dates, survey dates, entry dates and recorded dates. Additionally a survey has a different number than the warranty number.

The first two were for military service during the French and Indian War 1755-1763.

The earliest is 1,000 acres #3956 granted to a John Allen on June 25, 1776. It is described as 1,000 acres in Fincastle County lying on Clear Creek a watercourse of the Kentucky River near Harrod's Landing. It was signed by Thomas Jefferson.

Historians consider Harrodsburg the first settlement in Kentucky. It was established by James Harrod and the 41 men he brought with him from the Monongahela River area of western Pennsylvania in 1774. They travelled down the Ohio River to the mouth of the Kentucky River and then upstream (south) to a place now known as Harrod's Landing. From there they travelled overland a short distance west and settled at what is now known as Harrodsburg in the spring of 1774.

At that date all of Kentucky was known as Fincastle County, Virginia. Clear Creek runs across today's Woodford County. Although once part of Fayette Co., that part became Woodford Co. in 1789.

This land grant is especially interesting in that it was an inherited military bounty land grant. The original recipient was this John Allen's father Hugh Allen. The grant states it was for service in the war between Great Britain and France, i.e., the French and Indian War 1755-1763. However, the only Hugh Allen we know was killed at the Battle of Point Pleasant, VA in 1774, and his son John Allen should have only been 10 years old in 1776.

The same month as the above grant, a James Allen was granted 2000 acres #3968 as a representative of John Allen for service in the war between Great Britain and France, i.e., the French and Indian War 1755-1763. This was probably the above Hugh Allens brother John who was killed at Braddocks Defeat in 1755. It seems unusual that his brother James would be able to apply for a grant on behalf of his brother.

See appendix page 110 for more discussion about this Allen family.

The last three land grants mentioned are Treasury Warrants. This was land in Kentucky simply being sold by Virginia for a price.

A 1787 Treasury Warrant #14783 land grant to a John Allen was for 625 acres survey #7999 on Brashear's Creek in Shelby Co. At first glance one would think this was Col. John Allen of Shelby Co. fame, however, he was born in 1771 and would have only been 16 years old. His father was named James, so this seems to be another John Allen land mystery.

A 1792 Treasury Warrant #14021 land grant for 282 acres survey #830 in Bourbon Co. to a John Allen was most likely to Judge John Allen of Paris, KY.

A 1795 Treasury Warrant #504 land grant for 500 acres survey #1524 in Madison Co. to an unknown John Allen.

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State of Franklin The short-lived State of Franklin was formed in 1784 by eight counties in what is now the northeast corner of the state of Tennessee.

Franklin collapsed in 1789 and reverted back to part of North Carolina. Then, of course, those counties became part of the new state of Tennessee in 1796.

Franklin became a place of interest when we discovered that John's daughter Hanna, born in 1787, said on the 1850 census she was born in Tennessee. Assuming we have the correct Hanna and the correct information was recorded on the census, this indicates John Allen and his family were probably either travelling through or living in that northeast corner of TN prior to moving up to Fayette Co., KY.

Daniel Boone's 1775 Wilderness Trail from Virginia to KY dipped down into TN at what is now Kingsport, in Sullivan Co., TN. Boone's earlier 1769 trail from his home at the Yadkin River in North Carolina went through northeast TN to KY roughly following the Watauga River. It is generally known as Boone's Trail. Either of these trails might explain why John Allen and his wife had a daughter born there in 1787.

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Other places on the above map; Choate's Ford is now Bluff City, TN. Sapling Grove is now Bristol, TN. Carter's place on the Watauga River was in the heart of the Watauga Settlement.

John Allen might have been one of the Watauga Settlement settlers who had arrived there in 1772. This group came down the Great Wagon Road through Virginia and settled there thinking they were still in Virginia. They soon found themselves at odds with both states and set up their own government known as the Watauga Association.

Historians say the Watauga Association also included some North Carolina "Regulators", dissidents displeased with colonial government in the Carolinas.

It is conceivable that during the Revolutionary War John was one of the Overmountain Men from Tennessee; the frontier militia that crossed the Appalachian Mountains and defeated an army of British loyalists at the Battle of Kings Mountain in September 1780.

Ramsey's Annals of Tennessee to the End of the Eighteenth Century, published in 1853, makes several references to an early Allen, including a John Allen. However, all of the following Allen references pertain to central TN not northeast TN.

Page 105 mentions that in 1771 a group of men descended the Lower Cumberland River in the vicinity of today's Nashville. A Christopher Stoph and William Allen were taken prisoner by the Indians.

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Page 464 says "During the summer [1787] , the Indians came to Drakes Creek, where William Montgomery lived, shot down and scalped his son, and wounded John Allen." This location also seems to have been near Nashville.

Page 743 mentions Allen's cabins during a discussion about founding Montgomery and Robertson Counties [1796], which would also be near Nashville.

It does seem unlikely anyone would relocate from this central area of Tennessee back northeast to Fayette Co., KY.

Of course, this Tennessee conjecture is based on Hannah (Allen) Downs 1850 census record in Cumberland County, Illinois. While many Ft. Boonesborough settlers came with Daniel Boone from North Carolina, it should be noted nearly all of the settlers who lived in early Clark and Montgomery County were from Virginia. If John was from North Carolina (by way of Tennessee), he would have been an exception.

Also see Allen/Trimble 1784 migration to KY through Beans Station, TN on appendix page 110. A branch of the Wilderness Trail followed the Holston River deeper into TN before turning northward through the Cumberland Gap.

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Bush Settlement

Our John Allen was listed on Fayette tax lists from 1788 to 1791 somewhere near the Bush Settlement based on his neighbors, however no documentation has been found associating any Allen with the Bush Settlement. From 1789 to 1791 a George Allen is listed on the same tax lists next to John.

William "Captain Billy" Bush persuaded forty families from Culpeper Co., VA to move with him to Kentucky in 1780. Capt. Billy had been at Ft. Boonesborough in 1775 and 1776 with Daniel Boone and the others who blazed the Wilderness Trail through the Cumberland Gap and build Ft. Boonesborough on the Kentucky River.

Unable to complete their move due to Indian uprisings, Bush's party was forced to spend 3 years at the Holston River settlements in extreme southwest Virginia until 1783. But eventually they were able to move into Kentucky settling on the north side of the Kentucky River across from Ft. Boonesborough on the south side of the river.

Bush had laid claim to considerable land there which he divided up among his forty some friends and neighbors who moved with him from Virginia. There is no record of an Allen in his party or any of John Allen's future neighbors or associates. We include this segment because 3 years after Howard's Creek Baptist church was established within the Bush Settlement in 1783, Edward Williams, Nicholas Anderson and the Harpers joined this church in 1787. It is said Howard's Cr. was the first Baptist church near Ft. Boonesborough.

This map offers an opportunity to mention 4 Mile Creek just to the east of the Bush Settlement. The southwest 1/4 of Clark County shown on this 1818 map was actually Fayette County from 1780 to 1792.

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Records show Edward Williams, Nicholas Anderson and John Harper were at or near Ft. Boonesborough in 1779, because they laid claim to land at the headwaters of Hingston Cr. about a dozen miles east where they moved in 1792.

We have not yet found where the Williams, Andersons and Harpers lived between 1779 and 1787. Tax records have not been preserved earlier than 1787. Being Baptists from Virginia, they would have joined Howards Creek had they lived in that vicinity any earlier.

The Bush Settlement consisted of 14,600 acres bounded by the Kentucky River, Lower Howard's Creek and 2 Mile Creek. Lower Howard's Creek Church was situated nearly in the middle of the settlement. It became the Providence Church in 1790 when the church split, and is also known as the "Old Stone Church". It is still standing, having been rebuilt some years ago.

Then beginning in 1792 John Allen is listed in Clark to the east near Anderson's Station at the headwaters of the Lulbegrud and Hinkston Creeks. Beginning in 1797 a George Allen is listed in Clark on 4 Mile Creek with 39 acres. Is this the same George Allen listed beside John Allen earlier? We don't know, and so far have not been able to uncover anything else about a George Allen in Fayette or Clark prior to 1800.

It is possible George and John Allen were living on 4 Mile Creek earlier putting them in the vicinity of both the Bush Settlement and Ft. Boonesborough. Although no relationship has been established between John and George, one might suspect George was either John's brother or his father. After all, John did name his first born son, who born in 1782, George.

George's 39 acre land does not show up in any land grant records, so it was apparently a local person to person sale that should be recorded at the Winchester courthouse. A sale of the land later might also be recorded. It would be most helpful if a wife was listed on the sale. It would also be helpful to check Clark tax records past 1799 to see how long George lived on 4 Mile Creek.

Howard's Creek Church founded 1782 became the Providence Church in 1792 and was later known as the Old Stone Meeting House.

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Anderson's Station

Nicholas Anderson is of particular interest for several reasons. He was a close lifelong associate of my 6th great-grandfather Edward "Ned" Williams, whose grand-daughter, Edy Williams, married John Allen's son Richard, my 4th great-grandfather, in 1820.

Edward Williams and Nicholas Anderson joined the Chopawamsic Baptist church in Prince William Co., VA the same day November 24, 1767. The Chopawamsic church had been constituted November 1766 by religious dissenters in Overwharton Parish, Prince William Co.

It should be noted John and Elizabeth Summars, as well as Betty Harper were also members of the Chopawamsic church. Betty Harper was the mother of John and Peter Harper.

A few years later all were living at or near Ft. Boonesborough, KY. Edward Williams and Nicholas Anderson signed the Corn Compact in April 1779. However, some researchers believe they didn't move their families to Kentucky until some time after 1779.

Both men were granted land in December 1779 at the headwaters of Hinkston Creek about 18 miles northeast of Ft. Boonesborough. It was too dangerous to move their families there at that time, so they remained near Ft. Boonesborough until 1791 or 1792.

Between 1780 and 1782, Nicholas Anderson showed up in George Rogers Clark's military records several times, as did Edward Williams, Daniel Williams, John Summers, John Harper and Peter Harper.

In September 1787, Nicholas Anderson, his wife Barbary, Edward Williams and his wife Jemima and Peter Harper joined the Howard's Creek Baptist church, just north of Ft. Boonesborough.

Some of the best research on Edward Williams and his son Daniel can be found on Bobby Daniel's website bobbystuff.com.

There is no evidence John Allen and his first wife were ever members of the Howard's Creek church, but John Allen is recorded on the Fayette County tax list in 1788 along with Nicholas Anderson, Edward Williams John Harper, Peter Harper and John Summars.

By 1792 it must have been deemed safe enough to move to their land grants near the headwaters of Hinkston Creek (Little Mountain Creek) and Lulbegrud Creek over to the east in newly formed Clark Co.

Based on 1793 - 1799 tax enumeration dates, it is apparent John Allen lived very near these same families at Anderson's Station until he moved to Slate Creek.

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Nicholas Anderson's cabin must have been well fortified, as it became known as Anderson's Station by local settlers. It would have been located just north of the junction of KY-11 and KY-646 south of Mt. Sterling.

The Great Warrior's Path ran directly through these lands and based on Filson's 1784 map probably following the Lulbegrud to the Hinkston or about where KY-11 is today south of Mt. Sterling. Anderson, Williams and the others may have chosen this location to be near a main trading route.

The two records that have helped establish John Allens whereabouts in 1792-1793 are the Clark Co., KY tax lists for 1792-1796 and the minutes of the Lulbegrud Baptist church founded March 1793.

From the landowners listed the same day on these tax lists we can see John must have lived near Andersons Station, which was on the ridge at the headwaters of Hingston Creek. This would be about 2 miles south of Mt. Sterling in present day Montgomery Co.

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The following names were recorded the same day, Monday, Sept. 2, 1793. To give some indication of each persons situation, I have included horses, cattle and acres (if any) after their names.

John Allen 5-19, James Anderson 3-11, Nicholas Anderson 5-63-800, Abihu Anderson 2-5, Joshua Bartlett 3-0, John Bartlett 12-35, James Bradshaw, 2, 4, Audley Curt 0-3, Joseph Clemons 3-4, Robert Drayhart? 4-2, Peter Dewitt 2-14, Martin Dewitt 3-9, John Downey, Samuel Elkins 0- 4, Moses Fraze 4-30, James Fraze, Peter Fort 5-11, Anthony Griffin 1-6, Richard Griffin Sr 5-15, Richard Griffin Jr 1-4, John Harper 5- 40-400, James Hartley, Stephen England 2-4, James McGill 6-32, John McKee 6-27-150,William McLee? 9-23-400, William Payne 9-36-600, Jonathon Ridgeway 1-4, Green? Rigsbury (maybe Greenbury Riggs) 2-12-290, John Treadway 5-11, Edward Williams 3-32-1287, Daniel Williams 4-10, Moses Wilkinson 6-32.

Among those recorded the following day were: John McGuire, James Trimble and John White; more names associated with John Allen. I have not been able to determine who actually recorded the Clark Co. taxpayers, but David Bullock, Clark County Clerk, attested to their accuracy.

From what I have been able to determine, it wasnt until 1810 that taxpayers were required to travel to the tax commissioners to file their taxes. Previous to that time tax commissioners travelled the countryside, no doubt attempting to visit all those in a given area at the same time. It was also normal and customary for pioneers to invite travelers to have dinner and spend the night with them. A tax commissioner might have spent the entire week away from his own home, except for Saturday and Sunday, which were reserved for church activities.

The men with land at Andersons Station had acquired preemptions on their land there while living at Fort Boonesborough around 1779, but it had been too dangerous to actually move their families until 1789-92.

The Great Warriors Path ran directly through Andersons Station following Hinkston Creek from the north on to Lulbegrud Creek to the south. It had been used for centuries by native Americans and connected the Great Lakes with the Gulf of Mexico.

The Hingston (aka Little Mountain Creek) flows northward from this ridge through Mt. Sterling, about 2 miles distant, eventually emptying into the Licking River and then the Ohio River. On the other hand, the Lulbegrud flows southward from the ridge down to the Red River.

Headwaters of Hinkston (Little Mountain) Creek - Aug. 2009.

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The ridge between the headwaters of Hinkston and Lulbegrud Creeks - Aug. 2009.

Since John Allen did not have a preemption for land, this suggests he had not arrived earlier in the 1770s, as some of the other settlers but had arrived in Kentucky, some possibly just before 1788. Since he didnt have a military warrant to exercise, that suggests he didnt serve in the Continental Army during the Revolutionary War. Although it is possible John did serve in a state militia, whose veterans were not eligible for land warrants.

John and his wife died before Federal pensions became available for veterans, so we havent been able to find anything showing he served in the war. He might have been too young, or he might have been too old. Or he might have served in a state other than Virginia. Only Virginia paid their soldiers with military land grants in Kentucky, which was one of its unorganized counties.

John is listed with 5 horses and 19 head of cattle on the 1793 Clark Co., KY tax list. We had a family with 4 or 5 children and at least a dozen or more head of cattle that had moved several hundred miles through the wilderness by 1788.

From Johns entry we can see he was taxed on 5 horses and 19 head of cattle. He was not taxed for any males in the household between the ages of 16 and 21, but he was taxed on himself being over 21. The exact items taxed from year to year varied as government needs changed.

John was recorded Sept. 2, the same day as Nicholas Anderson who had 5 horses, 63 head of cattle and 800 acres, along with James and Abihu Anderson. From this we can see John must have lived near Nicholas Anderson and his son Abihu.

The number of horses owned by a family can be important to genealogy. A pioneer wouldnt keep any more horses than absolutely necessary. Generally the number of horses or mules would equate to the number of family members old enough to use a horse. In fact a pioneer with only 1 horse is a good indication he wasnt married. Johns 5 horses fit his family well with a wife and 4 children aged 10 or more.

Since cows can only have 1 calf per year, it is obvious these pioneers brought large numbers of cattle along with them as they migrated to Kentucky.

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The 800 acres Nicholas Anderson was taxed on in 1793 can be seen on the above map as 2 plats, 387 acres and 400 acres.

At the time John Allen and his family moved to Kentucky, his children could not have been much help. Given that and the danger of Indian attacks in those times, it is almost certain John and his family travelled to Kentucky with other families or relatives.

If they migrated to Kentucky from southwest Virginia, eastern Tennessee or North Carolina, they probably travelled the popular Wilderness Trail into central Kentucky and then back eastward to Clark County.

However, if they came from western Pennsylvania, Maryland or what is now West Virginia, they likely travelled down the Ohio River to Maysville, KY and then overland on the new road from there into eastern Kentucky. Or they might have come across Virginia more directly through the Pound Gap and the new road opening up between there and Mt. Sterling.

Some of Johns neighbors had roots in Stafford and Prince William Co., VA up along the Potomac River on the east coast. Those include Nicholas Anderson, Edward Williams, John Harper and John Summers. But these families seem to have moved to KY years earlier, first living at or near Boonesborough.

Of John Allens neighbors in 1792, the Lykins, Dewitts, Griffins and Treadways seem most likely to have arrived about the same time as John and his family.

The Griffins and Treadways had roots in Charlotte Co., VA in south central VA. Those two families probably did travel the Wilderness Trail together into eastern KY around 1792.

Isaac Lykins and William Lykins had roots in Berks Co., PA. Peter Dewitt and Martin Dewitt were from Hampshire Co., VA up near the Cumberland area of western Maryland and western Pennsylvania. Either or both of these families may have come down the Ohio River to Maysville. In Benjamin Allens interview by Shane, he talked about coming down the Ohio River by flatboat to KY from the Cumberland area of Maryland in 1790. Actually, we dont know that this Benjamin Allen of Clark County wasnt related in some way to John Allen.

But we have found no evidence yet that John Allen travelled with any of those families or had roots in those areas back east. It may be worthy of note that none of the families in early Clark/Montgomery Co. seem to have had roots in North Carolina.

If John and his wife followed tradition, and we have the order of their children correct, Johns parents might have been George and Sarah (Sally) Allen. Johns wife might have been Hannah, and her parents might have been Joshua and Catherine (Catey). There are, in fact, several George Allens in the Stafford-Prince William area of Virginia in the early 1700s.

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Lulbegrud Baptist Church

The Lulbegrud Baptist church was established by 20 unnamed United Baptists somewhere near the headwaters of Lulbegrud Creek the third Saturday of March 1793. The church was relocated about a mile away on Jilson Paynes property in the early 1800s when a new church was built.

Before delving into the Lulbegrud church itself, a review of its founder's previous church memberships may be helpful. The majority of its founders previously attended the Baptist church on Lower Howard's Creek as discussed under the tab for Bush Settlement. As mentioned in that discussion, it adhered to the beliefs of the Separatist Baptists.

It should come as no surprise that when some of those same families moved eastward near the headwaters of Lulbegrud Creek at Anderson's Station, they promptly established a new Baptist church based on those same beliefs.

There is no indication based on the Lulbegrud's minutes that Nicholas Anderson was a member, although that may be because he didn't involve himself in any church matters requiring an entry in the minutes. However, the Williams were very active in the church, as was John Allen and his family.

Prior to moving to Kentucky, we find the Andersons, Williams, Harpers and Summers and their wives at the Chopawamsic Baptist church in Stafford Co., Virginia. That church was constituted Nov. 22, 1766 by a number of members from the Broad Run Baptist church in Fauquier Co., VA, including Betty Harper.

The Broad Run Baptist church had been constituted Dec. 3, 1762. While its minutes don't mention the Andersons, Williams or Summers, an Elizabeth Harper was dismissed to be part of the new church at Chopawamsic. It seems likely this is the same Betty Harper who was one of the founding members of the Chopawamsic church.

John and Elizabeth Summers joined the Chopawamsic church Mar. 3, 1767. Edward Williams and Nicholas Anderson joined Nov. 24, 1767. Jemiah Williams Dec. 3, 1767 and Barbery Anderson May 21, 1768.

Other interesting names at Chopawamsic include; Sary Summers, Samuel Summers, Thezeah Summers and Elizabeth Folkner.

It is interesting that the Chapawamsic and Broad Run churches were not part of the Separatist movement but were Regular Baptists. Of course, Stafford and Fauquier counties were in old Virginia, whereas the Separatist movement took hold in the remote areas of Appalachia.

John is first mentioned in the Lulbegrud churchs minutes when he and John Summars, Sr. were appointed elders the third Saturday of March 1794. Since John is not previously mentioned in the minutes as being received, we can assume he was one of the founding members when the church was established a year earlier.

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That first year, Johns daughters Catey and Sally Allen are mentioned in the minutes when they are received by experience and baptism December 1793.

But even more interesting is the Sister Hannah Allen that had been received by letter a few months earlier in July 1793. Some researchers have wondered if Hannah was John Allens wife or mother. Others have thought she was probably Johns daughter Hannah, although she would have only been 7 years old at that time.

The reference to Sister Hannah tells us she had been previously baptized and had been a member of another Baptist church that had given her a letter of dismission. We are fairly certain Hannah was in fact our John Allen's wife who apparently died by Jun 1794 when John married Ann Griffin.

While the minutes tell us the church was founded March 1793 by 20 United Baptists, there isnt a list of just those 20 founders. There is a lengthy list at the front of males, females and blacks, however these names appear to have been listed some years later in no particular order. There are a number of men and women referred to in the minutes as Brother and Sister without having been mentioned as being received by the church. I believe those would be among the founding members and are listed below.

John Allen, James Anderson, John (Joshua?) Bartlett, Winnefred Bartlett, Samuel Denny, Martin Dewitt, Richard Griffin, Anthony Griffin, Moses Lacy, Jonathon Landers, William Payne, Edward Payne, Edward Williams and Daniel Williams.

It might be noted that the wives of some of these Brothers, i.e., Mary Griffin, Hester Griffin, Vilolet Williams, Jemimah Williams and others are never mentioned in the minutes at all. It is highly unlikely a husband would be a member without his wife being a member. The fact that they are not mentioned simply means they were probably among the 20 founders but were not in a leadership role or did anything requiring mention. We only find men asking questions and giving answers in the minutes.

On the other hand, we do see a few Sisters being accepted by the church without mention of a husband. This reverse scenario may not have been too unusual.

There are also numerous people in the lists at the front of the minutes that were never mentioned within the minutes. That simply means those people didnt do anything requiring them to be mentioned.

John Allen is not mentioned in the minutes after 1794. Johns second wife Ann is never mentioned at all, but neither was Anns mother, Mary. It is possible Ann and her mother were among those 20 founding members.

The Lulbegrud Baptist church was originally built on the banks of the Lulbegrud Creek not far from Anderson Station in 1793. Within a few years, though, the congregation was meeting in the Lulbegrud schoolhouse, presumably near its final location a mile west near Jilson Payne's Pleasant Hill estate.

This cemetery and site of the former church are located about 6 miles southwest of Mt. Sterling just off Prewitt Pike. The original church is said to have been a mile to the east on Lulbegrud Creek but was moved near the site of this cemetery in the early 1800s.

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Jilson Payne donated land for the relocated Lulbegrud Baptist church and the cemetery. His Mount Pleasant home can be seen from the cemetery.

Our transcription of the Lulbegrud church minutes from 1793-1804 is located under the documents tab and mentions many names of importance to a history of John Allen. A transcription of the [Kentucky] North District Association of Baptists listing the messengers and the churches they represented is also stored under the documents tab. It offers an excellent list of early Baptist churches in that area.

Elder John Sparks' 2005 book "Raccoon John Smith: Frontier Kentucky's Most Famous Preacher" may be the most authoritative source of information about the Lulbegrud church, as well as its early preacher Daniel Williams and the later churches he founded.

Although the Lulbegrud's minutes don't reflect this, it is likely John and Ann Griffin became members of one of Daniel Williams' subsequent churches when they moved to their 510 acres