Is survival predetermined in the critically ill
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A R E PAT I E N T S P R E D I C AT E D T O L I V E O R D I E ?
Mervyn Singer Bloomsbury Institute of Intensive Care Medicine
University College London, UK
C O R O L L A R Y
Does this explain the failure of so many ICU studies?
Progress in critical care in last 20 years relates to doing less iatrogenic harm to the patient
Critically ill patients are predestined to survive/die. And this can even be predicted as early as the ED
Modern medicine supports those predicted to live.. .. but prolongs death in those predicted to die
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FA E C A L P E R I T O N I T I S R AT M O D E L
Vic Khaliq
FA E C A L P E R I T O N I T I S R AT M O D E L
40-50% mortality
… which occurs between 18-36h
survivors show marked clinical improvement by 72h
at 6 hours post-insult, clinical severity = mild
- eventual survivors indistinguishable from non-survivors
6 hour sampling of blood and tissue:
controls vs. predicted survivors vs. non-survivors
controlsurvivornon-survivor
FA E C A L P E R I T O N I T I S R AT ( 6 H O U R S )
heart rate stroke volume
PAT I E N T D ATA
controlsurvivornon-survivor
IL-6 IL-10
PAT I E N T D ATA
FA E C A L P E R I T O N I T I S R AT ( 6 H O U R S )
controlsurvivornon-survivor
troponin BNP troponin
BNP
PAT I E N T D ATA
FA E C A L P E R I T O N I T I S R AT ( 6 H O U R S )
controlsurvivornon-survivor
cholesterol triglycerides cholesterol
PAT I E N T D ATA
FA E C A L P E R I T O N I T I S R AT ( 6 H O U R S )
controlsurvivornon-survivor
T3 glucagon T3
survivors
non-survivors
PAT I E N T D ATA
FA E C A L P E R I T O N I T I S R AT ( 6 H O U R S )
controlsurvivornon-survivor
adrenaline noradrenaline adrenaline noradrenaline
PAT I E N T D ATA
FA E C A L P E R I T O N I T I S R AT ( 6 H O U R S )
- survival predicted on 6h IL-6 level
.. with a trend to harm in predicted survivors
- dexamethasone 2.5 mg/kg given 8 and 32h post-CLP
sick septic shock patients
tachycardic AND high dose NE
after 24h
Esmolol (vs placebo) ->
improved cardiac function
faster fall in troponin
better recovery of eGFR
faster reduction of NEPI
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Survivors
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EsmololPlacebo
EsmololPlacebo
Davide Andreis and Vic Khaliq
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Predicted survivorsSurvival (%)
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Predicted non-survivorsSurvival (%)
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F I N A L T H O U G H T S
Septic patients and animal models suggest outcome is
determined at an EARLY stage of critical illness
Does this mean we are merely delaying death in those
determined to die with current Rx paradigms??
Challenge is to use this knowledge to do something different
- and hopefully more effective - in those very likely to die
Using this to improve trial design would be a useful start