UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA

ROGER HALL, etal.,

Plaintiffs,

CENTRAL INTELLIGENCEAGENCY,

Defendant

C. A. No. 04-0814 (RCL)

DECLARATION OF CAROL HRDLICKA

I, Carol Hrdlicka, declare and say as follows:

1. I am the wife ofColonel David L. Hrdlicka, a known Prisoner of

War ("POW") captured inLaos in 1965. David has been repeatedly

reported alive since the United States withdrew from Vietnam, Laosand

Southeast Asia in March 1973. The United States Government has informed

me that hewas captured butdied in captivity. On three different occasions,

theDepartment of Defense ("DOD") told me that he had died.

2. A Russian correspondent, Ivan Shchedrov ("Shchedrov")

interviewed my husband several times inSam Neua, Laos. My husband was

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wasseen at the dedication of a cave complex which Sheldonwitnessed,

See Attachment 1.

3. My husband and anotherPOW named Sheltonwere attempted

to be rescued from the communists in 1966, but later recaptured. State

Department documents found in the President President Johnson

Library by Roger Hall reveal this attempted rescue. SeeAttachment 2.

Retired GeneralRichard Secord, the then head of Central Intelligence

Agency ("CIA") Air Operations in Laos, authorized that rescue.

4. Documentsobtained from the CIA over the years never had

my husband's name in them. The CIA never has released documents

pertaining to the escapeand recapture of my husband. At long last, a

document released by the CIA in Hall v. CIA. Civil Action No. 04-0814,

indicates that my husband was alive in 1968. See Attachment 3. It has

my husband's name handwritten in the right-hand margin and at the

bottom of the document. There should be many other relevant

documents which have not been released to date.

5. General Secord is still aliveand has personal knowledge about

this mission that attempted the rescue of David and Shelton. This Court

should allow Mr. Hall to take General Second's deposition and also

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taKltgofo^scovery ofCIAoffieials whomay have:per#ientksiowle%e

abo^Me^ant records and eveftfo

Ideiiar^und^penal^ofpfjtttyihatthe Foregoing is true and

correct* Ixeeuted mm .15* day ofJune, 2012.

CAROL HHMJCKA

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_ **uhe oeacprul Laotia" pacple, ho are ca~ryii,y on a ;just."Struggle "hilp a p-isoner I was o^*n roderp reaxcal

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^V-ipate:= v,a5 PJbli3hed tn Pravda along with a piotograpn"^Several mon.ns Iat«r * rsce^ved a lctcor froTi California.

-.3JMrs Ciheyrs Dzh Sh"ans wrote, that on tne advice froii,*- '-riends, sne found P^a^da where the article was writt.n InJ "tne newspaoe*- ohotogr^pi she saw a nan *ho lookec nuch iifre/ iher lusband He too vas a nilitary pilot vho combed Laos^ ard did not return rron one of nis missions She dskod for

.„ ^ -.^l Af^help to clear up the fate o* her nusbdnd Is he -live or"%J> Kf^fiOifa^ "Maybe, - mqjired Mrs. Ehvans, - you confused the

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war' ag*in^c LaosThe widows ot A^enea should Vnov. witn what their

nusb;ras were *rd ire ln^ol^ed in Laos, you Inov they arei.ci^a the cu'h

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"bPt _p report 1127 Arer can a-.rp_c.-es and helicopters vpre^shot dc^n o er the ^ beratea rpc.on

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"* "•''J^sp io ^na^n captive in l>e gra^ -a\es are awaiting t eend cr -he war and t^e dpci^.on on the r rate

3at they will ha/e uO answer *or tie "-obbery At tie^nd o^ 1968 a cotjiiss on /as rened -n the L-barated i-etr cs•to <oo-p t^« cri-ie ot *-he Ve>- can mcenalicts rle»-e aresc » rd-^s it eo'leeted In lQoo, jnir-d States air torces"c'*rijc-a^ 2T tnousd"d c-in-'t srr*-iP3 nve- the Liberat»drJ is „n *»6/ lore ^.ha" <* n^js-t'--l "n the £.-»_ fp" q •» oy data ^r ^ra1" car r *-ers ••>-* neiibpr quddrup.pdi i. .. oi to 155"1

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3RING our "LIVE"POW's Home fromSoutheast Asia!

July 2?t 1992

This is a request under the fVeedga,of -Information andFrivaoy Act. I a* **u.«titf^flka&i-. that havV^e^Jftlybeen declassified concerning MIA>07." a in'Laos. I £ *apecificalljr lpoXin&-foc all the documents pertaining to.rJS-i^fel^ ft* ^ ^aia ^ freedoa 6f Col« Da*W *- rmtv h^JitZ£5 ^WS^l*?? USAF- Xballw *• **** «.«• attempt

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