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R ? Efw mf yfu lddn bkfut ted wby `g we`he hfgtdcpfrbry Kr`t`secfv`ds mdb n w`te hnbss bgm rbhd rdnbtdm `ssuds6

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R ? Q ebt mf yfu lddn bkf ut ted dx fm us fl sf c bgy tbndgtdm Kr`t`se

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tf cbg y l`nccbjdrs, ted hebg hd tf cf vd k dyf gm ted kbrr`drs fl

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sfc dkf my , wef `s pbrt fl ted dstbkn`sec dgt.  cdbg ed s b sgfk.

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sfc d rdhfrm hfc pbg y. Ed lb`ndm. ]e dg ed bhhdptdm ted H fnuc -

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bks urm ” bgm kbm . Kut `t s b hfcpn`hbtdm qudst`fg bt ted c f-

cdgt wedg b mdh`s`fg ebs tf kd cbmd bs tf wedtedr wd wdrd

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wrfga mdh`s`fg wbs cb md , sf 2 m fg t of`g `g ted hry fl Q brc fg -

adr ]ebthedr. Fg ted ftedr ebgm, wd sefunm ebvd gdvdr afttdg

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ldrvfr, we`he @ l`gm m`saus t`ga. Pfu hfunm sby ted kf ys `g @l wdrd

trbm`t`fgbn`sts, we`he sfu gm dm pbrbmfx `hbn kdhbu sd bnn ted bp pb -

rbtu s fl trbm`t`fg bpp db rs tf kd fg ted s`md fl butefr`ty, ku t te bt s

gft gdhdssbr`ny trud. ]edy brd pbrt fl ted trbm`t`fg fl `gmdpdg-

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vdry m`ll`hunt lfr cd tf `cba`gd tebt C `hj `s af`ga tf w`g .

R ? Mbv`m Xedrw`g (ted l`nc s shr`ptwr`tdr) sb`m tebt ky ted l`nc sdgm`ga C`hj ebs kdhfcd b cfgstdr bs kbm bs ted systdc edl`aets bab`gst.

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R? Qebt wbs g  yfur  c`gm wedg  C`hj   s adtt`ga  e`s kdbt`ga6 Pfu hut

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c`hrfshfpd bt webt bppdbrs tf kd hdnn m`v `s`fg .

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FEvdr sfc dw edrd. @t's vdry strbgad . Kut yfu sef unm sdd  ]ed

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rdbht`fg6

B? [ukk`se P fu jgf w tedy rdbnny br d bnn `m`fts @ te`gj ted c fv`d `s

v`fndgt, dxtrdcdny v`fndgt. Qd n`vd `g b vdry v`fndgt wfrnm.

Bgftedr hr`t`h bt ted t`cd sb`m ted cfv`d wbs efpdndss. Qdnn

tebt's webt `t's n`jdny tf kd bt b t`cd fl m`sbstdr. @ hbg't ednp ted

kfura df`s hr`t`h w ef nfgas tf kd ndlt bnfg d, w ef g dd ms bs su rbg hd .

]edy wb gt tf kd rdbss urdm . ]e d gd brd r yfu adt tf ted tdrr`ly`gatrute, ted c frd tedy wbg t gft oust tf dv bm d `t, kut tf m`shrdm`t y fu

bs wdnn. X f, yf u af fll tf sdd  B L`se Hbnndm Qbgmb.

R ? Efw m`m yfu hfc d tf m`rdht  Qebnds fl Buaust6   @t sd dc s tf kd

vdry m`lldrdgt tebg bgyte`ga dnsd yfu'vd dvdr m`rdhtdm.

B ? Qdnn `t `s, kut bgy kf my w ef w bs g't he`hjdg wf unm bhhd pt ted

fpp frtug `ty tf m`rdht N`nn`bg A`se bg m Kd ttd M bv`s. @t `s te d ndbst

pfn`t`hbn fl cy cft`fg p`hturds. Kut fgd hbg ebvd m`lldrdgt

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bs b tedbtdr m`rdhtfr `s n`jdny tf cbjd m`lldrdgt hef`hds. @ cdbg

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c bm d l`ncs tebt ebvd strfga sfh`bn `cpn`hbt`fgs, kut try`ga tf k d

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bgyfgd nffjdm bt cy wfrj terfuae ted ydbrs tedy wfunm sdd

dndcdgts fl nyr`h`sc `g tefsd wfrjs bgm `g   Qebnds fl Buaust.  2

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tebg Fg  Afnmdg  Yfgm @t s cf rd nyr`hbn. Bntefuae te bt, fl hfu rsd,

wb s b c uhe cfrd pfpunbr `nc kd hb us d `t's cu he c frd shecbntzy.

R ? E fw m`m yfu l`gm wfrj`ga w`te Kdttd Mbv`s6

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Ky ted wby, @ 'vd spdgt ted nbst ydbr `g ]frfgtf cbj`ga b c`g`-

sdr`ds lfr Efcd Kfx Fll`hd. @t's hbnndm AnfrW Anfr^: @ tffj tebt

fg kdhbusd, bch`z`gany, ted shr`pt turgdm fut tf kd qu`td affm.

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lfr sf c df gd fl cy tdc pd rb c dg t brd vdry m`ll`hunt, vdrv n`c`tdm.

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Efsp`tbn,  `s dv`mdghd fl te`s.

R ? Q ey m f yfu te`gj te`s wbs6

B ? Q d'r d bhh us tfc dm , tf pu t `t prdtdgt`fusny, tf b l`nc hunturd `g

we`he bksurm ny arf tdsq ud ef rrfr `s b pbrt fl b trbm`t`fg. Cy l`nc

w bs sf sbt`r`hbn tebt `t m dc bg m dm b sdgsd fl euc fr. Fl hfu rsd,

ted trfuk nd `s tebt pd fp nd e bv d kd au g tf te`gj `g hn`heàs. @l tedy

te`gj ted y'r d af `ga tf sdd b sbt`r`hbn sfh`bn l`nc, ted g ted y'rd gf t

prdpbrdm lfr ted j`gm fl dxtdgmdm sbt`rd prdsdgt `g   Kr`tbgg`b

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ebvd te`s hrd`zy mfhtfr wef `s cbj`ga bksfnutd sdgsd, kut fl

hfursd `t 's afgd kdyfgm e`s sdgsd `gtf lurtedr cbmgdss. Ky ted

dgm fl ted l`nc, yfu ebvd b l`nc tebt's pdss`c`st`h bkfut ted

pfss`k`n`ty lfr eucbg surv`vbn kdhbusd wd ebvd sh`dghd lfr

sh`dghd's sbjd bg m fut fl ted rdbnc fl b euc bg p urp fsd . X f ted

dgm `ga, fl hfursd, `s dxtrdcdny mbrj.

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b l`nccbjdr. @ cd bg n 'c b l`ncc bjdr `g ted sdgsd tebt @ ebvd mfg d

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R ? Efw m`m  Aery Anfry ebppdg6

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tedc, tedy'rd cuhe cfrd dxtrdcd, bgm cfrd fkgfx`fus, tebg

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kda`gg`ga. Frbn [fkdrts `s ted fgd wef `gsp`rdm ted sdr`ds

kdhbusd Kfgg`d ebm mfgd rdsdbrhe fg Frbn [fkdrts sdvdrbn

ydbrs baf. ]ebt abvd edr ted `mdb, bgm sed aft Xtbg Mbg`dns tf

wr`td `t. Xtbg Mbg`dns `s b vdry `gtdrdst`ga hebp bgm b vdry affm

wr`tdr. Ed wf rjdm fg ted Cbry ]yndr C ffrd sefw bg m ]bx`.

@ te`gj `t's b sup dr`f r shr`pt. @t m`m wdnn. @t w bs vdry wdnn rdhd`v dm .

R ? Hfunm yfu dnbkfrbtd fg wey yfu hbnndm Eu c perdy Odgg `gas ted

fgny Kr`t`se pf dt 6

B ? Pfu ebv d tf sdd e`s p`hturds. E d's vdry `c pfrtbg t bhtubnny.

Odgg`gas wbs b vdry `gtdrdst`ga l`nccbjdr wef m`mg't cbjd b

vdry nbrad gu c kd r fl l`ncs. Ed stbrtdm bs b pb`gtdr bgm ebm b v dry

strfga lddn`ga lfr trbm`t`fg. Ed hbcd tf cbtur`ty mur`ga ted wbr,

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h`bn. Ed m`m g't eb vd bg y hfc cdrh`bn prdssurds fg e`c: tedrdlfrd,

ed wbs lrddny bknd tf dxprdss e`s strfga, pdrsfgbn, pbtr`ft`h

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mfds Bgmdrsfg hfgs`mdr e`csdnl b pfdt6

R ? Qdnn, m f yfu rdabrm yfursdnl bs b pf dt6

B? @ wfunm rbtedr kd rdabrmdm ky ftedrs bs b pf dt. Q edg  mf sby

pf dt `g tebt sdgsd, @ c db g s fc dte`g a pbrt`hunbrny pdrsf gbn, b

nyr`hbn lddn`ga `g h`gdcb, hfgs`stdghy `g pdrsfgbn`ty w`te bg

`gtdarbt`fg fl stynd bgm hfg tdgt. Pfu adt tebt w`te Of e g Lf rm, fl

hfursd: ted wby ed usds ted hbc drb m`spnbys bg dbs`ny rdhfag`z-

bknd stynd.

R ? Efw mf yfu lddn ]ebthedr`sc e bs blldhtdm te d l`ncs fl hf gtd c -

pfrbry Kr`t`se l`nccbjdrs n`jd Xt dp ed g Lrdbrs bg m Mdrdj O br c bg 6

B ? Qd uglfrtugbtdny sddc tf eb vd lbnndg hfc pndtdny lfr w eb t wd

hbnn ted butdur`st pe `nfsfpe y fl l`ncc bj`ga, tebt kd `ga ted

bksurm gft`fg tebt ted m`rdhtfr `s rdspfgs`knd lfr ted dgt`rd

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l`ncs wr`ttdg ky Ebg`l Jurd`se`. Qebtdvdr yfu te`gj fl Ebg`l

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te`gj`ga. B ofurgbn`st w`nn cbjd b trdgm fut fl twf p`hturds, bgmtedy mf gddm cfrd bgbnyz`ga tebg tebt.

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H`gdcb, b rdnbtdm arfup fl ted <F's, bgm ted l`ncs cbmd `g ted

l`rst ebnl fl ted <F's. Edrd yfu m`m ebvd b lb`rny hfgs`stdgt sfh`bn

pf`gt fl v`dw, hnbss pf`gt fl v`dw, bgm pbrtny kdhbusd fl tebt

rdbsfg wd wdrd shfrgdm bgm rdodhtdm ky Dgan`se c`mmnd-hnbss

hr`t`hs bg m `gtdnndhtubns w ef bnn strfgany rds`stdm rbm`hb n l`ncc bj-

, `ga. Pfu w`nn l`gm, fl hf ur sd , `sfnbtdm f r nfgdny dx bc pnds fl

, pd fp nd wfrj`ga `g tebt v`dwp f`gt.  hdrtb`gny m` mg 't lddn b pb rt fl

bg y `gtdnndhtubn arfu p. Bnsf @ cust hbut`fg yf u, bs eb pp dg s

wedg fgd adts fnmdr, yfu adt nbzy, yfu adt ndss `gtdrdstdm.

Tg lfrtugbtdny, @ m f g 't rdn`a`fusny af tf bnn tedsd c fv`ds, b gm @

mf g't af tf cfv `ds ted wby @ wfunm l  wdrd b hr`t`h.

R ? F gd hr`t`h hnb`cdm, bk fu t Xtd pe dg Lrdbrs, tebt yfu hbg trust e`c

tf tbjd b p`dhd fl wfrj bgm gft cuhj `t up.

B ? Qdnn teb t's b hebrc `ga te`ga tf sby. Ky hfgtrbst Xtd pe dg wbs

kd`g a vdry j`gm tf c d we`nd ed w bs mf `ga b l`vd-pbrt sdr`ds kb sdm

fg Bnbg Kdggdtt's kffjs lfr tdndv`s`fg. Ed fgny m`rdhtdm twf fl

tedc , bgm ed vdry j`gmny aft cd tf mf fgd .  sb`m tf e`c bgm tf

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prdp brdm tf, `g b wby fgd wfunm wfrj fg b cfv`d. Bnbg

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gftdm tebt  w bs ted l`rst m`rdhtfr w ef 's kddg bknd tf cbj d Bnbg

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t`fg fl bg Bnbg Kdggdtt shr`pt, kut sfcdte`ga dnsd. @t wbs cfrd

n`jd b cfv`d.

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`t fg ted s hrddg vdry, vdry wdnn. ]e d fgny te`ga  wf unm sby `s tebt

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Ed's kddg kndssdm bgm bnsf kddg vdry `gtdnn`adgt. Fgd fl

Xtdpedg's qubn`t`ds `s `gtdnn`adghd bgm heffs`ga tf mf affm

cbtdr`bn.

R ? Pfu'vd mfgd b nft fl wr`t`ga fg Ofeg Lfrm. Pdt ed 's hdrtb`gny gftb sfh`bn b`t`h `s ed6

B? Gf, gf, gf, ed wbsg't. Kut  wfunm sby tebt ted hfgln`ht `g Lfrmkdtwddg trbm`t`fgbn`sc bgm `gm`v`mubn ty wbs dxtrdcdny strfga.]ed sdgsd fl ted `gmdpdgmdghd fl ted `gm`v`mubn cbjds e`c bg`gm`v`mubn st bgm bnsf b trbm`t`fgbn`st. Pfu sdd Lfrm wbs b ardbtbrt`st, kut bg brt`st w`te wefc tedrd `s b ardbt mbgadr tf

`gtdnndhtubn`zd bkfut tff cuhe. [dbm sfcd fl ted hfccdgtbryky sfcd fl ted nbttdr mby, webt yfu wfunm hbnn, butdur`sts. ]edrds b kffj ky ]ba Abnnbaedr w`te b nft fl affm rdsdbrhe `g `t, kut

`t's bksfnutdny `m`ft`h. @tsefw sted gddm fl ted `gtdnndhtubn hr`t`htf try tf hfgstruht sfcd `gtdnndhtubn hfghdpt`fg tebt w nn bhtubnnyoust`ly ted`r dx`stdghd, sf tedy s`t mfwg bgm wr`td b pbpdr bkfut`t bgm bkfut ted pdss`c`sc fl Lfrm. Cy  brn`ga H ndcdgt`gd  sgft b pdss`c`st`h l`nc, gfr `s  Xed Qfrd b Pdnnfw [`kkfg ]edy

wfunm try tf cbjd fut, n`jd Ydtdr Kfamfgbv`he, tebt tedrd `s bprfardss`fg tf pdss`c`sc.

Qebt ebppdgdm tf Lfrm wbs tebt ed aft fnm bgm, fl hfursd, fnmbad kr`gas m`lldrdgt `gs`aets. Ed aft fnm `g b wfrnm `g we`he edldnt `ghrdbs`gany bn`dgbtdm, kut ed w bs gft b pdrsfg wef wfunmdvdr m`shuss tebt g bg `gtdrv`dw. ]ed fgny t`cd ed wfunm kd bkndtf tbnj bkfut sfcdte`ga n`jd tebt w`te sfc dfgd wbs l ed jgdw

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tedcsdnvds. @ mf g t te`gj tedy dgn`aetdg pdf pnd.

R ? Mf yfu te`gj wd sefu nm stumy ted e`stfry fl h`gdc b6

B ? ]e d e`stfry fl h`gd c b” tebt s b m`lldrdgt cbttdr. Pfu sdd yfusn`ppdm `g tebt wf rm t ed rd. @ te`gj ted e `stfry fl h`gdc b `s

dssdgt`bn tf stumy, kut b e`stfry fl h`gdcb gft gdbrny mdbn`ga sf

cuhe w`te bdstedt`h m`lldrdghds. @t sefunm k d cu he c frd `g-

vfnvdm w`te ted sfh`bn `cpn`hbt`fgs bgm ted dhfgfc`h prfkndcs

fl h`gdc b. ] ed rd s b ardbt mdbn tf m`shuss kdlfrd f gd adts fg tf

Mdhf gstruht`fg. Bdstedt`hs m fg t ebvd bgyte`g a tf m f w`te te d

dxp dr`dghd fl brt. ]edy brd bg dg m `g tedcsdnvds. ] f wr`td bk fu t

stynd `s b trdc dgmf us ny m`ll`hunt te`ga tf mf , ku t `t s b vdryvbnubknd te`ga tf mf `l bgykfmy m`m `t r`aet.

]e`s `s bgf tedr rdbsfg wey yfu fua et tf rdbm c y kffj bkfu t

Of e g Lfrm. @t ebs cuh e c frd tf mf w`te ted dxpdr`dg hd fl sdd`ga

Of e g Lf rm s l`ncs tebg tedsd tedfrdt`hbn kf fjs. @ c dbg tebt

`m`ft`h te`ga ky Y dtdr Q fnndg, X`ags bgm dbg`gas  fr sfc d suhe

te`ga. @ mf g t jgf w e fw b gy kf my hbg rdbnny adt terfuae tebt

stu

Pfu st`nn l`gm bhbmdc`h stum`ds tebt sddc tf kd tftbnny`gldhtdm ky butd ur`s c . @ rdc dc kd r af`ga tf b sdc `gbr `g @tbny

bkfut Ofeg Lfrm bgm n`stdg`ga tf bnn tebt bhbmdc`h gfgsdgsd.

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tebt sf c d fl Lf rm s l`ncs wdrd wr`ttdg ky Mumndy G`hefns, sfc d

wdrd wr`ttdg ky Lrbgj Gua dgt, bgm sf c d ed tffj fg kdhbu sd ed

eb m gf te`ga dnsd tf m f . Pfu ebv d tf cbjd tedsd m`lldrdgt`bt`fgs.

]edsd b rd suppf sdm tf kd bhbm dc `hs bltdr  bnn.  Pdt gfg d fl tedc

wdrd hbpbk nd dvdg fl cdg t`fg`ga b wr`tdr. Xf c fst fl we bt tedywdrd tbnj`ga wbs rukk`se, bhtubnny. ]edy wdrd hfgstruht`ga bg

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Lfrm, mur`ga f gd `gtdrv`dw, tfnm Ydtdr Kfamfg bv`he tf seut up.

R ? Xf efw mf yfu cbjd bg bum`dghd te`gj6

B ? Gfw ted rd s b lbtbn bssu c pt`f g. Pfu hbg t c bjd tedc bnn te`gj,

tef ua e @ eb vd tr`dm tf . 2 try gf t tf sbt`sly bg bu m `dg hd s

dxpd htbt `fg s. C bykd te bt s ted mdldht fl b nft fl l`ncc bj`ga? tebt`t s hbrdlun tf rdc b`g `g ted bu m`d gh d s dx pdhtbt`fgs w`te te d

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