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$IONTAN/: I . ; C.:' : ;:.,IE COU~~CIL. p&@R&RY MhY 2 3 *v MINUTES OF THE MEETING FINANCE AND CLAIMS-HOUSE APPROPRIATIONS SUB-COMMITTEE ON LONG RANGE BUILDING MONTANA STATE SENATE February 12, 1977 The first meeting of the Joint Sub-committee on Long Range Buildi~ig met in roonl 331 of the State Capitol on the above date. The meeting was called to order at 2:45 by Senator Fasbender, Chairman. All members were present except Rep- resentatives Lund and Halvorson. Senator Fasbender explained the purpose of the meeting was to hear all building requests for University and Vo-Tech. He asked for the Vo-Tech preserltation first and requested the mentbers to open their Capitol Construction Books, copy attached as ex- hibit I., to page 126, priority 36. Mr. Glenn Burgess addressed the budget request from the VoTech center at Billings. He said they were one of the 5 that were started in 1969. He presented a green brochure (exhibit, at- tached) which he said was in capsule form to facilitate the discussion in the interests of time. In 1972 the state board of Public Education developed and approved a plan for the 5 centers which was designed to meet the needs throughout the state. The Billings center is now the only one that does not have state facilities. In 1973 they received $100,000 for the Billings Center for the purpose of develaping a planning study. We have reviewed the plan studies of 1975 to determirie how valid that plan is and t o make amendments to meet the standards of on-the-floor training, he said. Re went through a rust colored brochure, (exhibit attached), point by point, and passed out exhibits (attached) on the planning study and the supplement to the planning study for t h e comrni.ttee members, then went through parts of them with the conunittee. He said they have 13 major programs, some with several sections and being spread all over Billings, it made a nightmare to ad- minister. He said 1.2% of the budget is used for administration at-the present time; landlords threaten to sell or actually sell, at any time, and this makes problems and he gave the example of the welding class at the present time. He went through sections of the planning study and explained the various parts as he pointed them out. He said the central facility would be more efficient, and the rental budget of around $133,000 for the next year could be used to better advantage. W e said they serve a Large geographical area, with Yellowstone County, and serve the largest city in the area, touched on the demand for trdined people from the center, training for employers, and the in- creased enrollment. They felt around 800 this year on the enrollment, and about 50% of the students coming from Yellow- stone County. They are accredited, but if the facilities are not there, they will not have their accreditation renewed. Exhibit 6 was passed out as a preliminary site plan. He men- tioned the matter of the water level at the point and the

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  • $IONTAN/: I.; C.:' : ;:.,IE COU~~CIL. p&@R&RY

    MhY 2 3 *v MINUTES OF THE MEETING

    FINANCE AND CLAIMS-HOUSE APPROPRIATIONS SUB-COMMITTEE ON LONG RANGE BUILDING

    MONTANA STATE SENATE F e b r u a r y 1 2 , 1977

    The first m e e t i n g o f t h e J o i n t Sub-commit tee on Long Range B u i l d i ~ i g m e t i n roonl 331 o f t h e S t a t e C a p i t o l on t h e above d a t e . The m e e t i n g was c a l l e d t o o r d e r a t 2 : 4 5 by S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r , Chairman. A l l members were p r e s e n t e x c e p t Rep- r e s e n t a t i v e s Lund and H a l v o r s o n .

    S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r e x p l a i n e d t h e p u r p o s e o f t h e m e e t i n g was t o h e a r a l l b u i l d i n g r e q u e s t s f o r U n i v e r s i t y and Vo-Tech. H e a s k e d f o r t h e Vo-Tech p r e s e r l t a t i o n f i r s t a n d r e q u e s t e d t h e mentbers t o open t h e i r C a p i t o l C o n s t r u c t i o n Books, copy a t t a c h e d a s ex- h i b i t I., t o p a g e 1 2 6 , p r i o r i t y 3 6 .

    M r . Glenn B u r g e s s a d d r e s s e d t h e b u d g e t r e q u e s t f rom t h e VoTech c e n t e r a t B i l l i n g s . H e s a i d t h e y were o n e of t h e 5 t h a t were s t a r t e d i n 1969 . H e p r e s e n t e d a g r e e n b r o c h u r e ( e x h i b i t , a t - t a c h e d ) wh ich h e s a i d was i n c a p s u l e form t o f a c i l i t a t e t h e d i s c u s s i o n i n t h e i n t e r e s t s o f t i m e . I n 1972 t h e s t a t e b o a r d o f P u b l i c E d u c a t i o n d e v e l o p e d a n d a p p r o v e d a p l a n f o r t h e 5 c e n t e r s which was d e s i g n e d t o meet t h e n e e d s t h r o u g h o u t t h e s t a t e . The B i l l i n g s c e n t e r i s now t h e o n l y o n e t h a t d o e s n o t have s t a t e f a c i l i t i e s . I n 1973 t h e y r e c e i v e d $100 ,000 f o r t h e B i l l i n g s C e n t e r f o r t h e p u r p o s e o f d e v e l a p i n g a p l a n n i n g s t u d y . W e have r e v i e w e d t h e p l a n s t u d i e s o f 1975 t o de t e rmi r i e how v a l i d t h a t p l a n i s a n d t o make amendments t o meet t h e s t a n d a r d s o f o n - t h e - f l o o r t r a i n i n g , h e s a i d . R e w e n t t h r o u g h a r u s t c o l o r e d b r o c h u r e , ( e x h i b i t a t t a c h e d ) , p o i n t by p o i n t , a n d p a s s e d o u t e x h i b i t s ( a t t a c h e d ) on t h e p l a n n i n g s t u d y and t h e s u p p l e m e n t t o t h e p l a n n i n g s t u d y for t h e comrni.ttee members, t h e n went t h r o u g h p a r t s o f them w i t h t h e conuni t tee . H e s a i d t h e y have 1 3 m a j o r p r o g r a m s , some w i t h s e v e r a l s e c t i o n s a n d b e i n g s p r e a d a l l over B i l l i n g s , it made a n i g h t m a r e t o ad - m i n i s t e r . H e s a i d 1.2% of t h e b u d g e t i s u s e d f o r a d m i n i s t r a t i o n a t - t h e p r e s e n t t i m e ; l a n d l o r d s t h r e a t e n t o s e l l o r a c t u a l l y s e l l , a t a n y t i m e , a n d t h i s makes p rob lems a n d h e gave t h e example o f t h e w e l d i n g c l a s s a t t h e p r e s e n t t i m e . H e went t h r o u g h s e c t i o n s o f t h e p l a n n i n g s t u d y a n d e x p l a i n e d t h e v a r i o u s p a r t s a s h e p o i n t e d them o u t . H e s a i d t h e c e n t r a l f a c i l i t y would b e more e f f i c i e n t , and t h e r e n t a l b u d g e t of a r o u n d $133,000 for t h e n e x t y e a r c o u l d b e u s e d t o b e t t e r a d v a n t a g e . We said t h e y s e r v e a Large g e o g r a p h i c a l a r e a , w i t h Y e l l o w s t o n e County , and serve t h e largest c i t y i n t h e a r e a , t o u c h e d on t h e demand f o r t r d i n e d p e o p l e f rom t h e c e n t e r , t r a i n i n g f o r e m p l o y e r s , and t h e i n - c r e a s e d e n r o l l m e n t . They f e l t a r o u n d 800 t h i s y e a r on t h e e n r o l l m e n t , a n d a b o u t 50% o f t h e s t u d e n t s coming from Yellow- s t o n e County . They a r e a c c r e d i t e d , b u t i f t h e f a c i l i t i e s a r e n o t t h e r e , t h e y w i l l n o t have t h e i r a c c r e d i t a t i o n renewed.

    E x h i b i t 6 was p a s s e d o u t a s a p r e l i m i n a r y s i t e p l a n . H e men- t i o n e d t h e matter o f t h e water level a t t h e p o i n t and t h e

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    d i f f e r e n t t y p e o f sewage t r e a t m e n t wh ich meant u t i l i t y ponds .

    1 I a r r i e t Mtlloy, Chairman o f t h e Board o f P u b l i c E d u c a t i o n s d i d s h e a q r e e d w i t h t h e p r e s e n t a t i o n and h a s c o n s i d e r e d it t h e i r f i r s t 1 ) r i o r i t y .

    M r . U l m e r was a s k e d t h e q u e s t i o n by S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r i f t h e s p d c e t l icy a r e r e n t i n q i n B i l l i n g s i s a l l p r i v a t e l y owned o r a r e you u s i n g any b u i l d i n g s t h a t t h e s c h o o l p r e s e n t l y owns? H e answered : A l l p r i v a t e l y owned b u i l d i n g s w i t h t h e e x c e p t i o n o f o n e w h i c h is t h e o l d s h i l o s c h o o l .

    Quest : ions a n d a n s w e r s as f o l l o w s :

    S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r : Is t h e s c h o o l e n r o l l m e n t g e n e r a l l y i n c r e a s i n g s o t h a t s c h o o l b u i l d i n g s would n o t become a v a i l a b l e f o r s u c h a program a s t h i s ? Ans. Y e s , i n f a c t t h e d i s t r i c t j u s t v o t e d f o r 2 new b u i l d i n g s a n d a new h i g h s c h o o l was r e q u e s t e d , b u t v o t e d down b e c a u s e n o t enough p e o p l e t u r n e d o u t t o v o t e .

    S e t l a t o r F a s b e n d e r : Your p r e s e n t e n r o l l m e n t i s 850 a n d you a r e a n t i c i p ' l t i n g t h i s b u i l d i n g w i l l h a n d l e up t o 1252? Ans. Y e s .

    Sc r l a to r F a s b e n d e r : H o w f a s t do you e x p e c t t o expand t h i s f i y u r e ? Ans. I t h i n k w e w i l l f i l l it v e r y s h o r t l y a f t e r w e g e t i t u p .

    S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r : I n o t h e r words , t h i s d o e s n o t r e a l l y a n t i c - i p a t e much room f o r e x p a n s i o n ? Ans. T h a t ' s r i g h t .

    Senator F a s b e n d e r : I t w i l l m e r e l y t a k e c a r e o f t h e l o a d you havc r i g h t now? Ans. And what w e t h i n k w e ' l l h ave i n 1980 . They dre p r o j e c t i n g t o a b o u t 1980 .

    R e p r e s e n t a t i v e Kvaa len : 1 would l i k e t o a s k M r . C r o s s e r o r M r . Hauck t h e q u e s t i o n . I n t h e b u d g e t book , what a r e t h e p e r - s o n a l s e r v i c e s and o t h e r i t e m s h e r e u n d e r e s t i m a t e d o p e r a t i n g c o s t s of c o m p l e t i o n ? I n t h e g r e e n s h e e t and t h e b u d g e t book , t h e r e i s a v a r i e n c e . Ans. Wauck. P e r h a p s Ben c a n answer t h i s b e t t e r . These a r e r e q u e s t s t o f u l l f i l l House B i l l 4 6 3 , I be l i eve i t was, a n d a r e t h e p r o j e c t e d f i g u r e s f o r o p e r a t i n g costs s u p p l i e d by t h e u n i t a s o p e r a t i n g c o s t s b e c a u s e of t h e new f a c i l i t y .

    Sc-ridtor I - l i m s l : You s a i d it would n o t r e q u i r e less s t a f f on y o u r g r e e n s h e e t , b u t on t h i s o n e it s a y s you would r e q u i r e 2 2 a d d i t i o n a l o n e s . Ans. M r . B u r g e s s . The 22 ' i d d i t i o n a l o n c s w o u l d b e b e c a u s e o f g rowth .

    S e n d t o r I I i m s l : What would t h i s b e f o r i n s t a n c c when you a r e n o t r e q u i r i n g t h a t t h e b u i l d i n g b e c o m p l e t e d u n t j 1 1980? P r e v i o u s l y w e a l l o c a t e d $ 1 m i l l i o n t o t h e G r e a t F ' a l l s U n i t which was matched by G r e a t F a l l s w i t h $ 1 m i l l i o n . T h i s o n e c a l l s f o r $ 2 . 8 m i l l i o n . Is t h e r e a n e x p l a n a t i o n f o r t h a t ?

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    Ans. Hauck. T h e r e was a m i l l i o n o f s ta te money a n d a m i l l i o n o f r e v e n u e s h a r i n g t h a t was matched by $ 2 m i l l i o n on a bond i s s u e i n G r e a t F a l l s . T h a t i n c i d e n t l y was t h e l a r g e s t t h a t t h e s t a t e had matched a t t h a t p o i n t . T h i s i s a l a r g e r f a c i l i t y a n d c o n s e q u e n t l y t h e y are a s k i n g f o r a l a r g e r match . I d o have some a d d i t i o n a l comments i f you would l i k e m e t o make them a t t h i s t i m e .

    S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r : A r e you r e f e r r i n g t o t h e EDA GRANT? Ans. Yes. S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r : G o a h e a d . Hauck: Well s i n c e t h i s r e q u e s t was made a n d s i n c e t h e p r e c e d e n t so f a r a s t h e s t a t e b u i l d i n g program a n d m a t c h i n g l oca l money o n v o - t e c h f a c i l i t i e s h a s been a 50-50 ma tch , t h e B i l l i n g s Va- tech c e n t e r was s u c c e s s - f u l i n g e t t i n g a s s i s t a n c e t h r o u g h t h e EDA p rog ram and d i d a c q u i r e a m i l l i o n and 4 d o l l a r s f o r t h i s f a c i l i t y . P e r s o n a l l y , I t h i n k t h a t t h i s s h o u l d b e r e c o g n i z e d as p a r t o f t h e c o s t o f t h i s f a c i l i t y a n d i n p r o v i d i n g m a t c h i n g t h e s t a t e s h o u l d t a k e t h i s i n t o a c c o u n t . T h e r e is one o t h e r i t e m , i f you w i l l l o o k on page 127 , t h e cost o f t h e l a n d a c q u i s i t i o n was p u t i n h e r e a t % m i l l i o n d o l l a r s . M r . U l m e r r e f e r r e d t o a p r e v i o u s app rop- r i a t i o n t h a t was made i n 1973 where t h e Long Range B u i l d i n g Commit tee a p p r o p r i a t e d $100,000 t o B i l l i n g s f o r p l a n n i n g , a n d it a l s o i n c l u d e d l a n d p u r c h a s e s . A t t h a t t i m e w e s i q n e d a g r a n t a g r e e m e n t w i t h t h e s c h o o l d i s t r i c t a n d o n e o f t h e c r i t - e r i a was t h e c o n s i d e r a t i o n o f t h i s p i e c e o f l a n d which i s i n t h e b r o c h u r e , i t i s a 30 a c r e s i t e i m m e d i a t e l y w e s t o f t h e p r e - s e n t High S c h o o l v o - t e c h f a c i l i t y . The p u r c h a s e p r i c e was e s t a b l i s h e d a t t h a t p o i n t i n t i m e a n d t h e a q r e e m e n t was a $119,000 p r i c e i n s t e a d o f + m i l l i o n . Now t h e c o s t o f t h e f a c i l i t y s t a r t s a t $ 5 , 6 2 5 , 0 0 0 , i f you back o u t t h e p r i c e o f t h e l a n d c o s t it i s $ 5 , 2 4 4 , 0 0 0 , i f you t a k e i n t o c o n s i d e r a t i o n t h e m i l l i o n a n d !5 f e d e r a l g r a n t , i t b r i n g s it down t o $ 3 , 7 4 4 , 0 0 0 a n d t h e n ma tch t h a t amount , t h e s t a t e s h a r e would b e $ 1 , 8 7 2 , 0 0 0 , i n s t e a d of t h e 2 . 8 t h a t i s r e f l e c t e d i n t h e r e q u e s t . Now t h e r e i s a n o t h e r t h i n g t h a t I f e e l I s h o u l d b r i n g t o y o u r a t t e n t i o n . T h i s s i g h t i s g o i n g t o r e q u i r e a sewage t r e a t m e n t package p l a n t and a w a t e r t r e a t a e n t p l a n t b e c a u s e it is o u t s i d e t h e c i t y l i m i t s . These i t e m s a r e r e f l e c t e d as c o s t i n g $173,000 and w i l l be s h a r e d by t h e H i g h School Vo-tech c e n t e r . I n compar ing the c o s t w i t h , and w i t h o u t t h e High S c h o o l Vo-tech c e n t e r , t h e r e i s a d i f f e r e n c e o f $115 ,000 i n t h a t item. I h a v e no a rgumen t w i t h s h a r i n g t h e f a c i l i t i e s w i t h t h e s c h o o l d i s t r i c t v o - t e c h ten- ters, b u t I f e e l t h a t i n f a i r n e s s t o t h e S t a t e of Montana, t h e s e t h r e e i t e m s o u g h t t o b e t a k e n u n d e r c o n s i d e r a t i o n , wh ich w i l l s u b s t a n t i a l l y r e d u c e t h e s t a t e ' s s h a r e on a 50-50 match.

    R e p r e s e n t a t i v e S o u t h : P h i l , why o u t o f t h e $173,000 -- why would $115,000 be a t t r i b u t a b l e t o t h e High S c h o o l ? Ans. I n t h i s b r o c h u r e , a p p a r e n t l y CTA on p a g e 1 6 g i v e s p r i c e s f o r t h i s sewage t r e a t m e n t p l a n t and t h e w a t e r t r e a t m e n t p l a n t t h a t would b e r e q u i r e d . These e s t i m a t e s a s t o how much wou1.d b e s h a r e d w i t h e x i s t i n g f a c i l i t i e s , a n d on t h e n e x t p a g e I assume a r e c o m p a r a b l e f i g u r e s o f j u s t t h e p o s t s e c o n d a r y vo - t ech w i t h - o u t t h e c o n s i d e r a t i o n o f t h e High S c h o o l Vo-tech b e c a u s e t h i s f a c i l i t y would b e l o c a t e d o n a d i f f e r e n t site and n o t in

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    i n c o n j u n c t i o n , s o I j u s t t o t a l e d ' t h o s e up and s u b t r a c t e d t h e d i f f e r e n c e and s o t h e r e i s $115,800 d i f f e r e n c e .

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : For t h e b e n e f i t o f t h e commit tee , and t h e p e o p l e o f B i l l i n g s , a t t h e t ime t h i s g r a n t was r e q u e s t e d , o r p u t i n t o t h e Long Range B u i l d i n g Program, B i l l i n q s d i d n o t have t h e i r EDA g r a n t . A f t e r t h e i n f o r m a t i o n was p r i n t e d and t h e i n f o r m a t i o n had gone t o t h e L e g i s l a t u r e , t h e g r a n t was a c q u i r e d and w e d i d i n q u i r e o f B i l l i n g s what t h e i r r a t i o n a l was s o f a r a s u s i n g t h e $1.5 m i l l i o n g r a n t and I am s u r e t h a t I have s l e t t e r t o t h a t e f f e c t . I a m s u r e t h e y would respond a t t h i s t i m e f o r any r a t i o n a l f o r k e e p i n g t h a t $1 .5 m i l l i o n a s s t r i c t l y l o c a l match r a t h e r t h a n u s i n g a p o r t i o n of t h a t t o lower t h e s t a t e f u n d i n g t h a t would be r e q u i r e d . M r . U l m e r , I see you have your b r o c h u r e r e a d y t o go.

    M r . U l m e r : T h a t ' s r i g h t , and I would l i k e t o respond a l i t t l e b i t t o t h a t sewage. T h e r e ' s a t r a d e - o f f t h e r e i n t h a t by a l low- i n g t h e c a r e e r c e n t e r t o u s e t h e sewer sys tem w e a r e g o i n g t o p l u g i n t o t h e i r w a t e r sys tem. There i s r e a l l y a t r a d e - o f f there--meaning t h a t w e do n o t have t o d e v e l o p a n o t h e r new w a t e r sys tem f o r t h e vo- tech c e n t e r .

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : Do you have f i r m f i g u r e s a s t o what t h e d i f f e r e n c e would be t h e r e a s t o what t h e t r a d e o f f a c t u a l l y was? Ans. Wel l , I t h i n k t h e c o s t s a r e t h e r e , t h e (page 1 6 ) --Not a l l o f t h e t r a d e - o f f s a r e r e a l l y computed i n t e r m s o f b e n e f i t s one way o r t h e o t h e r . There a r e s e v e r a l t r a d e - o f f s / W e a r e a l s o u s i n g t h e i r p a r k i n g l o t s , w e ' r e u s i n g t h e i r w a t e r sys tem, w e ' r e u s i n g some o f t h e r o a d s t h a t t h e y deve loped ; i n o t h e r words, t h e d i s t r i c t i s making q u i t e a committment t h e r e . Along w i t h t h a t , w e ' r e g o i n g t o be u s i n g t h e a c c e s s t o t h e f a c i l i t y , and t h o s e t h i n g s have n o t been computed a s t o what t h e y would mean i n d o l l a r s and c e n t s . W e do know t h i s , t h a t i f w e d i d n o t have t h e c a r e e r c e n t e r t h e r e t o u t i l i z e it a l o n g w i t h what w e a r e a s k i n g f o r h e r e , w e would have t o r e q u i r e a f a c i l i t y t h a t would b e a n o t h e r $ 1 m i l l i o n i n o r d e r t o meet t h e demands.

    M r . U l m e r went on t o t a l k a b o u t t h e p l a n n i n g s t u d y and t h e r u s t c o l o r e d b rochure . H e s a i d i f you look under t h e s c h o o l laws o f Montana 75-7709, S e c t i o n 4 o f t h e board o f t r u s t e e s , "Any d e s i g n a t e d High School d i s t r i c t where a p o s t secondary v o - t e c h n i c a l c e n t e r i s l o c a t e d , may be r e q u i r e d t o f u r n i s h up t o 50% of t h e f u n d s r e q u i r e d f o r t h e c o n s t r u c t i o n . The p e r - c e n t a g e o f c o n s t r u c t i o n f u n d s t o be f u r n i s h e d by any d e s i g n a t e d d i s t r i c t s h a l l be d e r i v e d from any o f t h e f o l l o w i n g s o u r c e s . F i r s t o f a l l s a l e o f bonds, which w i l l be p a r t o f it. b. Any o t h e r f u n d s a v a i l a b l e t o such d i s t r i c t which w i l l b e l e g a l l y and p r o p e r l y a p p l i e d t o such a c o n s t r u c t i o n . ( t h e EDA f u n d s ) . c. Value o f l a n d , b u i l d i n g s , f i x t u r e s o r equipment ." I n f a c t , by t h e t i m e w e b e g i n t h e rest o f t h i s w e w i l l i n e f f e c t , be t a l k i n g a b o u t b u i l d i n g s , i n t h a t t h r o u g h t h e EDA g r a n t w e w i l l have t o b e g i n from s c r a t c h w i t h i n 90 d a y s , and t h a t d a t e i s A p r i l 2 4 , and w e w i l l be i n t h a t b u i l d i n g by n e x t w i n t e r , around December.

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    Under t h e a c t which w d s f o r $ 1 , 5 0 0 , 0 0 0 , w e p l a n t o c o n s t r u c t 58 ,000 s q u a r e f e e t o f s p a c e , and f i n i s h 30 ,000 s q u a r e f e e t . O n t h e s i t e p l a n , t h e b l a c k p o r t i o n a n d t h e b l a c k l i n e a r o u n d t h e l i g h t e r a r e a i s t h e o u t l i n e o f t h e 58 ,000 s q u a r e f e e t . T h a t w i l l . b e t h e p o r t i o n t h a t w i l l b e c o m p l e t e d w i t h t h i s g r a n t . The b l a c k p o r t i o n w i l l h a n d l e w e l d i n g , r e f r i g e r a t i o n , and a u t o m o b i l e c o l l i s i o n r e p a i r . The rest o f it w i l l b e a s h e l l , a n d w i l l n o t b e c o m p l e t e d . T h a t ' s a s f a r a s w e c a n yo w i t h a m i l l i o n and $. The d i s t r i c t f e e l s v e r y s t r o n g l y t h a t t h i s ' i s l o c a l money s i n c e t h e g r a n t w a s made t o t h e B i l l i n g s High S c h o o l D i s t r i c t # 2 . You have a copy o f t h e g r a n t s t a t i n g t h a t , a n d I have some more c o p i e s f o r t h e com- m i t t e e . He r e a d a n d t o l d o f t h e q u a l i f i c a t i o n s t h e y m e t and what t h e y had t o d o t o g e t t h e EDA g r a n t .

    S e n a t o r Fdsbende r : M r . U l m e r , w i t h t h e 28 ,000 o r 30,000 s q u a r e f e e t o f s h e l l . s p a c e t h a t i s g o i n g t o be t h e r e , a t what t i m e i n t h e f u t u r e a n d what s o u r c e of f u n d s d o you e x p e c t t o u s e t o f i n i s h t h a t s p a c e ? Ans. W e e x p e c t t o u s e t h e s t a t e a l l o c a t i o n and l o c a l money f o r t h e r e m a i n d e r o f t h i s p r o j e c t .

    S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r : A t what t i m e would you a n t i c i p a t e f i n i s h i n g t h a t s h e l l ? Ans. I f t h e money i s a u t h o r i z e d a n d a p p r o p r i a t e d by t h e L e g i s l a t u r e , t h e n o f c o u r s e w e c o u l d go i n t o a c t i o n t o p l a n f o r a bond e l e c t i o n l o c a l l y and g e t moving on t h a t a s soon a s p o s s i b l e .

    S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r : The l o c a l bond r e q u i r e m e n t would be wha t? Around $500,000? Mow much would you r e q u i r e l o c a l l y i n o r d e r t o come up w i t h t h e ma tch? Ans. About a m i l l i o n d o l l a r s .

    S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r : I f t h e s t a t e o n l y a p p r o p r i a t e d a m i l l i o n e i g h t , i f t h a t w e r e a l l t h a t was a v a i l a b l e , would t h a t re- q u i r e a h i g h e r bond? Ans. I t would r e q u i r e more money f rom somewhere. Q. L o c a l l y ? Ans. Not t o r e q u i r e t h a t s e c t i o n , b u t t o c o m p l e t e t h e o t h e r b u i l d i n g s .

    S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r : I n t h e p a s t , B i l l i n g s h a s had t r o u b l e p a s s i n g t h o s e bond l e v i e s , e s p e c i a l l y i n r e l a t i o n t o t h e V o - t e c h a r e a . Would you a n t i c i p a t e t h i s ? Ans. I n t h e p a s t , B i l l i n g s h a s n e v e r a s k e d f o r money f o r a vo - t ech c e n t e r .

    S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r : But t h e y ' v e had t r o u b l e p a s s i n g a bond l e v y . L e t ' s p u t i t t h a t way. Do you a n t i c i p a t e w i t h t h e o t h e r bond ing r e q u i r e m e n t s t h e c i t y i s p r e s e n t l y u n d e r , t h a t you would have t r o u b l e p a s s i n g t h a t s i z e bond l e v y 3 I ' m n o t t a l k i n g a b o u t t h e one f o r a m i l l i o n e i g h t , I'm t a l k i n g a b o u t if w e a p p r o p r i a t e o n l y o n e - e i g h t . Ans. Would w e have a p rob lem p a s s i n g o n e - e i g h t ? I d o n ' t know. 1 d o n ' t know how t h e p o e p l e a r e g o i n g t o go . A l l I know i s t h a t a t t h i s p o i n t t h e r e i s c o n s i d e r a b l e c o o p e r a t i o n i n t h e community i n t h e c o n s t r u c t i n g o f t h e v o - t e c h c e n t e r . I t h i n k it l o o k s r e a l

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    b r i g h t . What t h e y a r e g o i n g t o do when t h e y go t o t h e p o l l s I d o n ' t know--they m i g h t .

    S e n a t o r Himsl-: What d i d t h e s c h o o l d i s t r i c t r e q u e s t i n t h i s EDA money--is t h i s t h e amount? Ang. T h i s i s t h e amount , y e s . Q . They r e q u e s t e d a m i l l i o n and % a n d g o t t h e f u l l amount? Ans. Y e s . Q. I h a v e a q u e s t i o n f o r M r . Hauck--In t h e G r e a t F a l l s a r e a , I ' m a l i t t l e c o n f u s e d . W e a p p r o p r i a t e d a m i l l i o n d o l l a r s i n s t a t e f u n d s a n d t h e n r e v e n u e s h a r i n g went i n t h e r e t o c o n t - r i h u t e ? Ans. S t a t e r e v e n u e s h a r i n g . Q. And t h e n i t , i n e f f e c t , c o n s t i t u t e d wha t? A s h a r e of t h e l o c a l match? Ans. T h a t was f o r $ 2 m i l l i o n of s t a t e money. I t was ma tched by $ 2 m i l l i o n o f l o c a l . Q. And t h e y matched t h i s o u t s i d e o f t h e r e v e n u e s h a r i n g ? Ans. Y e s , t h e y p a s s e d a bond i s s u e f o r $2 m i l l i o n .

    J a c k C r o s s e r s a i d h e would l i k e t o a d d a l i t t l e - - T h e o r i g i n a l a l l o c a t i o n t o Great F a l l s w a s f o r $ 1 m i l l i o n due t o t h e f a c t t h a t w e were u n a b l e t o s e l l bonds a t t h a t t i m e . T h a t p r o j e c t was d e l a y e d , and i f you recal l , t h e fo rming and r e v e n u e s h a r i n g w a s a l l o c a t e d t o t h e Long Range B u i l d i n g Program t o p i c k up t h o s e p r o j e c t s t h a t were o r i g i n a l l y t o b e funded by bond i s s u e s . W e were u n a b l e t o se l l t h e bonds a n d w e went on a c a s h b a s i s a t t h a t t i m e on a r e v e n u e s h a r i n g f u n d . The s e c o n d m i l l i o n d o l l a r s was a p p r o p r i a t e d by s u b s e q u e s t l e g - i s l a t u r e f o r t h e Great F a l l s p r o j e c t .

    R e p r e s e n t a t i v e S o u t h : I f w e were l o o k i n g a t t h i s s i n g l e s h e e t t h e r e , how much l a n d a r e you b u y i n g f o r ?i m i l l i o n d o l - l a r s ? Ans. Where i s it o n t h i s s h e e t ? ( H e showed t h e a r e a , a n d p o i n t e d o u t t h e a r e a d e s i g n a t e d ) Q. And you s t a t e d you had t o g e t s t a r t e d b u i l d i n g by A p r i l ? Ans. R i g h t . Q. T h i s coming y e a r ? Ans. Y e s . Q . So y o u ' r e g o i n g t o have t o buy t h e p r o p e r t y w i t h t h e m i l l i o n a n d +? Ans. N o . W e a l r e a d y have t h e p r o p e r t y .

    P h i l Hauck: The p r o p e r t y i s a l r e a d y p u r c h a s e d f o r $119,000 on a l o n g t e r m d e a l o u t o f t h a t $100,000 a p p r o p r i a t i o n made i n 1 9 7 3 . I ' m n o t q u i t e s u r e , I ' d have t o go back and r e a d h o w t h a t wen t . The s t a t e money was advanced . The B i l l i n g s s c h o o l d i s t r i c t d i d n ' t h a v e a n y , s o t h e y u s e d t h e s t a t e money a n d t h e r e was (correct m e i f I ' m wrong, Ben) b u t t h e r e was a d e a l made where t h e s c h o o l d i s t r i c t was g o i n g t o pay o f f t h e i r ha1.f o v e r t h e y e a r s . The p o i n t i s t h a t t h e p r i c e was se t a t $119 ,000 a n d a g r e e d upon t h a t t h a t v a l u e was g o i n g t o b e used when making a 50-50 g r a n t f rom t h e s t a t e , r a t h e r t h a n t h i s 4 m i l l i o n t h a t i s r e f l e c t e d i n t h i s c o s t a n a l y s i s . Q. W h a t ' s t h e l a n d w o r t h , t h e n ? Ans. by U l m e r . The l a n d h a s b e e n a p p r a i s e d , o r a t l e a s t a f t e r l o o k i n g a t it a n d a t comparab le p r o p e r t y , and c o n t a c t i n g r e a l t o r s t h a t t h a t i s t h e p r i c e a f f i x e d t o it.

    S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r : I t i s correct t h a t t h e l a n d , w h i l e you p r o j e c t e d a v a l u e o f $500 ,000 t o it t o u s e t h a t a s a ma tch on t h e loca l l e v e l , o r i g i n a l l y was p u r c h a s e d a t a much lower p r i c e ? Ans. Y e s . Q. And p a r t o f t h a t p u r c h a s e p r i c e was S t a t e money? Ans. N o . N o , t h a t was l o c a l money. Q. Was

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    $119,000 l o a n e d and t h e n p a i d back t o t h e s t a t e ? No. The d i s t r i c t p a i d f o r t h a t .

    M r . IIauck: I d o n ' t want t o g e t i n t o a n a rgument h e r e , but--- M r . U l m e r : The $100 ,000 w e - - B i l l i n g s g o t f rom t h e s t a t e was u s e d t o d o p l a n n i n g . Ijowever, none o f t h e money was u s e d t o p u r c h a s e l a n d .

    S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r : W e c a n l o o k t h a t up a n d f i n d o u t . I d o n ' t t h i n k it n e c e s s a r y t o g e t i n t o a n a rgumen t a b o u t i t r i g h t now. U l m e r : I d o n ' t b e l i e v e a n y o f t h e money was used t o p u r c h a s e 1.dnd.

    S e n a t o r Fdsbende r : W e ' l l go back a n d t a k e a l o o k a t t h a t . U l m e r : T h a t l a n d was p u r c h a s e d t o meet t h e r e q u i r e m e n t s f o r ~nd tch inc f .

    1 , d ~ r y Key: M r . Cha i rman, I ' m i n f o r m e d t h a t u n d e r t h e c o n s t r u c t i o n of t h e B u t k e c e n t e r t h e y u s e d t h e EDA g r a n t .

    S e n d t o r F a s b e n d e r : W e c a n d i s c u s s t h a t l a t e r . B i l l i n g s g o t i n t o t h i s whole t h i n g b e f o r e t h e Vo- tech c e n t e r s were e s t a b - 11-shed , it i s a l o n g h i s t o r y . The c o m m i t t e e may o r may n o t , be aware o f t h a t , a n d w e ' l l d i s c u s s it a t a l a t e r p o i n t , r a t h e r tllaii r i g h t h e r e .

    A f t e r r e q u e s t s f o r f u r t h e r q u e s t i o n s , t h e hea r i r i g on t h e vo- t e c h c e n t e r was c l o s e d , and S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r s t a t e d t h a t h e r e a l i z e d t h e r e w e r e o t h e r p e o p l e h e r e f rom o t h e r v o - t e c h ten- t e r s , and t h a t a t t h e p r e s e n t t i m e w e a r e o n l y g o i n g t o b e h e a r i n g t h e members o f t h e B i l l i n g s v o - t e c h c e n t e r . H e re- minded members o f t h e commi t t ee t h a t on page 2 9 5 t h e r e a r e o t h e r r e q u e s t s f rom t h e S u p e r i n t e n d e n t o f P u b l i c I n s t r u c t i o r l i n t h e a r e a o f o t h e r v o - t e c h s t h a t amount t o some $ 2 3 m i l l i o n , and t h e r e a r e s e p a r a t e b i l l s p u t i n t h a t would r e l a t e t o t h e s e c e n t e r s . T h e r e w i l l b e t i m e g r a n t e d i f t h e y a r e n o t r e l a t e d t o s p e c i f i c v o - t e c h c e n t e r s t o h e a r them.

    M r . Key p a s s e d o u t some b r o c h u r e s , a t t a c h e d a s e x h i b i t s .

    S e l l a t o r F a s b e n d e r announced t h a t t h e n e x t p r o j e c t s w e were t o t a k e up would r e l a t e t o higher e d u c a t i o n , a n d a s k e d f o r M r . Hauck t o p r e f a c e t h e d i s c u s s i o n b y e x p l a i n i n g t o t h e com- m i t t e e some o f t h e t h i n g s t h a t a r e i n i t . The r e q u e s t s that came i n which a r e i n t h e book , r e l a t e t o t h e boa rd o f r e q e n t s and a l s o t o r e q u e s t s f rom t h e u n i v e r s i t y s y s t e m s themselves. The r e q u e s t t h a t i s recommended by t h e E x e c u t i v e a r c d i f f e r e n t t h a n a l l o f t h o s e f i g u r e s i n t h e book , and h e a s k e d P h i l t o go t h r o u g h a n d e x p l a i n what t h e s i t u a t i o n i s and why a l l the numbers a r e n o t t h e same.

    P h i l Hauck s a i d t h e b i g g e s t r e a s o n t h e numbers a r e n ' t t h e same i s t h a t w e had r e q u e s t s f o r o v e r $ 8 2 m i l l i o n d o l l a r s i n LRB money a n d o v e r $102 m i l l i o n f o r all . k i n d s o f money. H e p a s s e d out a s h e e t , a t t a c h e d as a n e x h i b i t , wh ich shows t h e f i n a n c i n g

  • l ~ . ) r l c j l i d r i j e D u i 1 t l i n J F e b r u a r y 1 2 , 1977 Fiage 8

    c.stirndt:cs o f t h e Long Hange B u i l d i n g Program which i s c u r r e n t . You w i l l see a t t h e b o t t o m t h e e s t i m a t e d t o t a l f u n d s a v a i l a b l e , $15 ,860 ,000 . The b i g g e s t r e a s o n t h e s e f i g u r e s d o n ' t match i s t h e d i f f e r e n c e be tween $100 m i l l - i o n a n d 1 5 m i l l i o n a s t h i s s p e c i f i c a l l y a p p l i e s t o t h e u n i v e r s i t y s y s t e m . On p a g e 207 of t h e book it r e i t e r a t e s t h e r e q u e s t s by p r i o r i t y l i s t a s t h e y came from t h e b o a r d o f r e g e n t s .

    S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r s u g g e s t e d j u s t l i m i t i n g t h e d i s c u s s i o n t o t h e s e p r o j e c t s .

    P h i l went t h r o u g h t h e r e q u e s t s l i s t i n g t h o s e by t h e b o a r d o f r e g e n t s and t h o s e made by t h e E x e c u t i v e . H e s a i d t h e y a s k e d t h e U n i v e r s i t y Sys t ems t o p r o v i d e a d e t a i l e d l i s t which w e have on r e c o r d o f a l l t h e p r o j e c t s t h a t t h e y were g o i n g t o d o u n d e r t h e i r p a r t i c u l a r r e q u e s t . W e g o t t o l o o k i n g a t them, a n d t h e r e w e r e a l l k i n d s o f p r o j e c t s i n t h e r e . T h e r e w e r e p r o j e c t s i n t h e r e f o r 3 a n d 4 a n d e v e n up t o $800,000 t h a t s h o u l d h a v e been b r o k e n o u t a n d i t e m i z e d a s i n d i v i d u a l p r o j e c t s . W e wen t t h r o u g h dnd g r a b b e d e v e r y t h i n g t h a t w e t h o u g h t was o f mag- n i t u d e t h a t was o v e r t h e i n t e n t o f what t h i s t y p e o f p r o j e c t was f o r . T h i s t y p e o f a p p r o p r i a t i o n i s s t r i c t l y f o r main- t e n a n c e a n d s m a l l t h i n g s t h a t would b e a l o n g l i s t o f l i n e items i f t h e y w e r e l i s t e d i n d i v i d u a l l y . Then w e f u r t h e r re- duced it by s a y i n g t h a t work ing f o r a c u r r e n t l i s t w e needed money t o j u s t m a i n t a i n it f o r t h e n e x t 2 y e a r s ; t h i s i s t h e t y p e o f p rogram it meant t o u s , a n d i t i s what w e a r e t r y i n g t o p r e s e n t t o you. W e were a b l e t o r e d u c e it f rom 4 . 1 m i l l i o n t o 1 . 4 m i l l i o n . W e f e e l t h a t t h i s i s enough t o do t h e work t h a t t h i s t y p e o f a n a l l encompass ing t y p e o f a p p r o p r i a t i o n i s meant t o d o . The s e c o n d p r i o r i t y f rom t h e r e g e n t s was f o r p l a n n i n g f u n d s f o r $190 ,000 . T h i s o r i g i n a l l y r e q u e s t e d u n d e r Long Range B u i l d i n g , w e f e l t t h a t t h i s t y p e o f f u n d i n g c o u l d e a s i l y b e p r o v i d e d f o r by what w e r e f e r t o a s l o c a l f u n d s , it h a s i n t h e p a s t . W e r e q u e s t e d t h e U n i v e r s i t y c o n s i d e r t h i s a s a s o u r c e o f f u n d i n g so it w o u l d n ' t f u r t h e r d e p l e t e t h e Long Range B u i l d i n g Program, wh ich i s a l r e a d y u n d e r s e v e r e stress. So , i n o u r b u d g e t you w i l l n o t i c e t h a t t h a t i s o u r s e c o n d recommendat ion , b u t i t i s from l o c a l f u n d s , n o t f rom L R B .

    T h e t h i r d recommendat ion f rom t h e b o a r d o f r e g e n t s i s t h e s c i e n c e h y i l d i n g a t U . o f M. T h i s was o r i g i n a l l y r e q u e s t e d a t $8.7 m ~ l l i o n , it was r e d u c e d t o $5 .5 m i l l i o n by t h e r e g e n t s and w e f u r t h e r r e d u c e d it t o $ 4 m i l l i o n . Now we're n o t g o i n g t o s t a n d h e r e and t e l l you t h a t we a re g o i n t t o b u i l d a $5.5 m i l l i o n b u i l d i n g f o r $ 4 m i l l i o n . We've r e d u c e d t h e p r o j e c t - - t h e r e i s g o i n g t o b e d i s c u s s i o n on t h i s . W e f e e l f r a n k l y , t h i s was o n e i t e m t h a t w e s e r i o u s l y c o n s i d e r e d t a k i n g o u t b e c a u s e o f t h e s i z e o f i t , b u t i n t h e f i n a l a n a l y s i s it is way down on t h e p r i o r i t y l i s t , b u t a t l e a s t i s i n t h e program f o r $ 4 m i l l i o n , a n d w e f e e l t h a t t a k i n g a l l o t h e r f a c t o r s i n t o con- s i d e r a t i o n , t h e o t h e r n e e d s o f t h e o t h e r i n s t i t u t i o n s and agen- c jes t h a t $4 m i l l i o n i s a l l t h a t t h e y c a n come up w i t h , b u t a s t e p i n t h e r i g h t d i r e c t i o n b e c a u s e w e have acknowledged t h e need i s t h e r e . The f o u r t h recommendat ion t o t h e r e g e n t was t h e p h y s i c a l p l a n t a t E a s t e r n . T h i s was o r i g i n a l l y r e q u e s t e d d t $990 ,000 , t h e r e g e n t s r e d u c e d t h a t t o $550,000 and i n o u r t u r m o i l o f t r v i n s t o b a l a n c e t h e budoct w e had to deduc t

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    $40,000 and come up w i t h $510,000,. Again w e r e c o g n i z e t h e need f o r t h i s f a c i l i t y , and w e f e e l w e can do a t l e a s t a p r e t t y good job o f g e t t i n g s t a r t e d f o r t h e $510,000. The r e g e n t s 5 t h p r i o r i t y was t e l e v i s i o n f a c i l i t i e s and remodel t h e p o r t i o n o f Research Park B u i l d i n g $2,064,500. T h i s was con- t r o v e r s i a l on t h i s q u e s t i o n a s t o whe the r o r n o t f i l m t e l e v - ~ s i o n s h o u l d remain a t Bozeman. I t h i n k t h e b i g g e s t r e a s o n h e r e was t h a t t h i s went o u t i n p r e f e r e n c e t o t h e need of t h e U n i v e r s i t y f o r a S c i e n c e f a c i l i t y . Number 6 was t h e Sewer L ine , Montana Tech, $75,000 was t h e s i x t h p r i o r i t y o f t h e r e g e n t s , and i s a l s o o u r p r i o r i t y , W e t a l k e d f o r a l o n g t i m e , b u t t h i s was t h e p r o j e c t t h a t was needed. E v e r y t h i n g on t h e back s i d e of t h e campus, sewage i s pumped up o v e r t h e h i l l , and w i t h t h e a d d i t i o n of t h e new l i b r a r y and t h e p h y s i c a l e d u c a t i o n p l a n t g o i n g i n down t h e r e it i s almost mandatory t h a t t h a t sewer l i n e be e x t e n d e d . No. 7 from t h e r e g e n t s was t o remodel a p o r t i o n of L i n f i e l d H a l l , MSU, $ 5 1 0 , 0 0 0 . Again i n t h e p r i o r i t i z i n g of a l l t h e s t a t e i n s t i t u t i o n s t h i s one a t Lin- f i e l d , even though w e a r e s y m p a t h e t i c and someday i s g o i n g t o have t o be a d d r e s s e d , w e d i d n o t f e e l it was t h e h i g h e s t p r i o r - i t y now, so--keep a s k i n g . No. 8 was t h e a u t o d i e s e l l a b a t Nor thern $350,000 r e q u e s t e d by t h e r e g e n t s . T h i s was i n c l u d e d i n o u r program, b u t reduced t o $297,000 i n t h e i n t e r e s t s o f b a l a n c i n g t h e budge t i n t h e l a s t minu te c u t t o make e v e r y t h i n g b a l a n c e o u t w i t h t h e funds a v a i l a b l e ,

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : Reduce t o what? $297 or 279? Ans. Excuse m e , $279,000. A l l t h e o t h e r i t e m s on t h e r e g e n t s l i s t - - comple te l i b r a r y a t U o f !!, b u i l d a new l i b r a r y a t N o r t h e r n , ( ~ d d i t i o n t o and remodel o f e x i s t i n g V e t e r i n a r y C l i n i c b u i l d i n g s , Ag. Experiment S t a t i o n , MSU, Land a c q u i s i t i o n , EMC, and phy- s i c a l p l a n t improveme~l ts a t FISU, w e d i d n ' t f e e l w e r e o f s i g - n i f i c a n t need t o r e v e r s e t h e l i b r a r y a t Nor the rn . I n f a c t w e had it i n and o u t a c o u p l e o f t i m e s , b u t when t h e f i n a l a n a l y s i s f o r t r y i n g t o b a l a n c e t h e funds a v a i l a b l e , it was f i n a l l y dropped i n f a v o r o f t h e p r o j e c t s t h a t were l e f t i n t h e budge t . W e a l s o f e l t t h a t t h e V e t e r i n a r y C l i n i c b u i l d i n g , i f p o s s i b l e , shou ld have been funded , r a t h e r t h a n bonding from LRB, it shou ld have been funded from A g research, earmarked revenue.

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : But you d i d n o t recommend t h a t ? Ans. I t h i n k w e d i s c u s s e d t h a t and t h e r e w e r e n ' t any funds a v a i l a b l e . Is t h a t r i g h t Hank? Ans. Yes. P h i l : There w e r e no f u n d s a v a i l a b l e , I t h i n k t h a t was t h e r e a s o n . T h a t ' s t h e t o t a l l i s t , M r . Chairman, u n l e s s you want t o go i n t o something else.

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : W e w i l l b e g i n w i t h t h e U n i v e r s i t i e s main- t e n a n c e p r o j e c t s program, t h e committee shou ld a s k q u e s t i o n s a s w e go a l o n g on t h e s e p r o j e c t s . H e informed t h e members o f the committee t h a t t h e p r o j e c t l i s t s t a r t s on page 22.

    M r . B i l l Lannan from t h e o f f i c e o f t h e commissioner o f Higher E d u c a t i o n , t o o k c h a r g e o f t h e p r e s e n t a t i o n from t h e U n i v e r s i t i e s and s a i d he would sum it up a t t h e end. H e s a i d he had made a r rangements f o r M r . Lewy Evans, Chairman o f t h e C a p i t o l Con- s t r u c t i o n committee o f t h e Board o f Regents t o g i v e a s h o r t p r e - s e n t a t i o n , and t h e n w e w i l l have t h e i n d i v i d u a l p r e s i d e n t s

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    d i s c u s s i n t o t a l a v e r y s h o r t p r e s e n t a t i o n on t h e i r p a r t t o speak t o e a c h o f t h e p r o j e c t s t h a t were recomrrieneded by t h e Board of Regents .

    M r . Lewy Evans s a i d P h i l had p r e t t y w e l l covered pages 207-209 and t o b r i n g something t o your a t t e n t i o n r e l e v a n t t o t h a t , I would l i k e t o s u g g e s t t h a t you c o n s i d e r an a d d i t i o n t o t h e Law L i b r a r y a t t h e U n i v e r s i t y o f Montana. Tha t you c a l l t h a t p r i o r i t y 1 4 and t h a t you p u t t h e f i g u r e o f $1,300,000 on it. Tha t would make a t o t a l o f o u r r e q u e s t o f $18,960,000. The emphasis of t h e o r i g i n a l r e q u e s t t h a t is shown on pages 210- 235 w e r e o r i g i n a l l y $45,201,850, t h e commissioner recommended $14,375,000, and t h e House B i l l 1 4 4 $6 ,540,935 f o r a l l t h e campuses. H e s a i d i n a d d i t i o n a c o n s e r v a t i o n s t u d y f o r e n e r g y had been recommended, w i t h t h e G o v e r n o r ' s recommendation o f $200,000 for a l l t h e a g e n c i e s i n t h e s t a t e , and t h e r e g e n t s would l i k e t o recommend $150,000 f o r t h i s sys tem. Two a d d i t - i o n a l recommendations h i g h l y recommended by t h e r e g e n t s , which a r e n o t i n t h e r e p o r t , t h e y c o v e r OSHA r e q u i r e m e n t s t h a t shou ld be m e t a t a l l 6 campuses and t h a t would be a t a c o s t o f a b o u t $400,000 t o a d e q u a t e l y t a k e c a r e o f t h e i r needs . W e would recommend t h a t t h a t be a s i n g l e a p p r o p r i a t i o n which w e w i l l u s e t h e n t o a d m i n i s t e r t h e t o t a l campuses from, t o b r i n q it up t o t h e OSHA codes .

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : Would t h a t be p r i o r i t y 15 o r what? Ans. I suppose . Q . Why was t h a t n o t o r i g i n a l l y i n t h e r e q u e s t ? Was t h a t a n o v e r s i g h t t o o , o r what? Ans. ( d i d n o t g e t name) I c o u l d respond t o t h a t , t h e r e were t h r e e items tha t - -and w e s e n t a l e t t e r t o t h e Governor on t h r e e i t e m s t h e e n e r g y s t u d y , removing b a r r i e r s t o t h e handicapped, and i n OSHA, s a t i s f y i n g OSHA r e q u i r e m e n t s . The r e g e n t s f e l t t h a t t h e s e s h o u l d be recommended and p o s s i b l y be a d d r e s s e d on a s t a t e wide b a s i s i n l i e u o f j u s t t r y i n g t o s a t i s f y t h o s e needs on t h e v a r i o u s campuses. The Department o f A d m i n i s t r a t i o n , i n l o o k i n g a t t h e Long Range B u i l d i n g Program, d i d n o t i n c l u d e t h e r e q u e s t s f o r OSHA; t h e y a d d r e s s e d it on e a c h i n d i v i d u a l agency and a s a r e s u l t o u r s n e v e r g o t i n t o t h e LRB Program.

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : The $ 6 . 0 m i l l i o n t h a t you r e q u e s t e d for t h e handicapped--Ans. The $3 .45 m i l l i o n ? Q. Tha t was o n l y f o r 5 u n i t s . I u n d e r s t o o d it would t a k e a n o t h e r $ 3 m i l l i o n t o u p d a t e WMC a l o n e . Ans. W e have a s e p a r a t e b i l l which was i n t r o d u c e d , House B i l l 2 7 8 , t h a t would a d d r e s s t h a t . To go on, b e f o r e t h e campus r e p r e s e n t a t i v e s b e g i n t h e i r t e s t i m o n y , t h e p a r t t h a t P h i l went o v e r e a r l i e r a b o u t t h e maintenance-- B i l l h a s made a l i s t t h a t compares t h e o r i g i n a l $4,153,000 t o t h e l i s t you have o f where t h e money goes--comparing t h e two b u d g e t s . H e p a s s e d o u t t h e l i s t , a t t a c h e d .

    Western Montana C o l l e g e . M r . Henry S t i s h , Western Montana C o l l e g e r e p r e s e n t i n g t h e campus development . H e s a i d i n p r i o r i t y 1, which i s where a l l t h e i r money comes from - t h e recommendation i s t h e sum o f $351,500. H e compared t h e f i g u r e s w i t h t h o s e on House B i l l 144 and s a i d he was con- c e r n e d t h a t s o many were c u t , He s a i d f h e p r o j e c t s were i m p o r t a n t t o s t a r t w i t h , r e p r e s e n t e d maintenance, and it was

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    a ~ l d i t was i m p o r t a n t t o n o t pos tpone them and wind up w i t h some major r t ; q u e s t 2 y e a r s from now. H e s a i d many t h i n g s have been d e l a y e d f o r some y e a r s and a r e b e g i n n i n g t o c a t c h up. H e s a i d t h e o n l y i t e m he c o u l d a g r e e w i t h d e l e t i n g i s t h e one t h a t h a s t o do w i t h s u b c a t a g o r y 3 . He s a i d he was l o o k i n g i n t o t h e p o s s i b i l i t y of r e s t o r i n g t h a t b u i l d i n g t h a t was b u i l t i n t h e l a t e 1 8 0 0 ' s a s a h i s t o r i c a l l a n d mark. The o t h e r i t e m he men- t i o n e d was a r o o f on t h e o l d gym. I n t h e l a s t biennium it was okayed a s a p r o j e c t , now it seems t o be u n i m p o r t a n t . H e s a i d t h e roof i s s t i l l i n bad r e p a i r because t h e amount o f money a p p r o p r i a t e d was n o t enough t o d o t h e job . H e s a i d t r y i n g t o c o v e r up h o l e s f o r 2 y e a r s would s p e l l t r o u b l e sometime, and f e l t it was an e x t r e m e l y i m p o r t a n t need. H e e x p l a i n e d t h a t i n s p i t e o f it b e i n g c a l l e d " o l d gym" it h a s v e r y l i t t l e t o do w i t h t h e gymnasium s i t u a t i o n . The c e r a m i c s depar tment a s w e l l a s t h e campus book s t o r a g e i s i n t h e basement s o t h a t a c t u a l l y , i t was a n e d u c a t i o n a l b u i l d i n g a t t h e p r e s e n t t i m e , and n o t one which would f a l l i n t o t h e p a r t i c u l a r c a t e g o r y o f p h y s i c a l e d u c a t i o n .

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : You s a i d t h a t t h e money was a p p r o p r i a t e d l a s t t ime t o do t h a t , b u t wasn' a d e q u a t e t o g e t t h e job done. What was done w i t h t h e money? Ans. W e had some e a r l i e r p r o j e c t s t h a t had t o do w i t h b u i l d i n g s a f e t y a c c e s s e s , i n - s t a l . l i n g t h e f i r e a l a r m sys tem on t h e e n t i r e campus, p l u s son12 o t h e r f i r e c o n t r o l measures .

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : Had t h o s e e a r l i e r p r o j e c t s been funded p r e v i o u s l y ? Ans. Y e s , t h e y had, and a r e i n t h e p r o c e s s o f b e i n g comple ted comple ted a t t h e p r e s e n t t i m e .

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : I g u e s s what I ' m r e a l l y g e t t i n g a t i s -- t h e r e seems t o be a change i n your p r i o r i t i e s a s you set f u n d i n g , even though it i s n ' t enough. Did you go back and e x p e r i m e n t on a p r o j e c t t h a t had been funded e a r l i e r o r what a c t u a l l y d i d happen w i t h t h a t fund ing? Ans. You mean--- Q. The f i r e sys tems and t h a t s o r t o f t h i n g . Wasn' t t h e r e a d e q u a t e money a p p r o p r i a t e d a t t h e t i m e those were updated t o comple te t h a t p r o j e c t ? Ans. Oh, y e s . Tha t p o r t i o n o f it-- because w e had a series of p r o j e c t s , o r a s e r i e s o f items i n t h e t o t a l p r o j e c t t h a t was s i m i l a r t o t h e lump p r o j e c t t h a t w e have now, and w e j u s t went down t h e l i n e , you see. W e w e r e b a s i c a l l y i n f l u e n c e d as far as t h e f i r e m a r s h a l 1 w a s concerned , t o comple te t h o s e p ro jec t s - -more s o t h a n t h e r o o f . W e chose t h o s e and t h i s came down t o a b o u t 3rd a t t h a t t i m e , and t h e r e a r e some t h i n g s i n t h i s r e q u e s t l i k e t h e sound sys tem and t h e a u d i t o r i u m c u r t a i n s t h a t were n o t funded i n c o n n e c t i o n w i t h t h a t same program.

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : How much was a p p r o p r i a t e d l a s t t ime t o r e p a i r t h e r o o f ? Ans. $56,000, I b e l i e v e t h e number was o f f hand.

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : $56,000 was a p p r o p r i a t e d f o r t h e r o o f and t h e s e o t h e r p r o j e c t s , o r just f o r t h e r o o f a l o n e ? Ans. No. For t h e e n t i r e p r o j e c t i n t h e l a s t biennium.

  • 1,orly l idnyc B u i l d i n g F e b r u a r y 1 2 , 1977 Page 1 2

    S e n a t o r Fdsbende r : How much o f t h a t s h o u l d have been a p p o r - t i o n e d f o r t h e r o o f ? Ans. About $21 ,000 , o r s o m e t h i n g l i k e t h a t w d s t h e e s t i m a t e a t t h a t t i m e .

    S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r : Mabe I ' m c o n f u s e d . P h i l , what happened t h e r e ? A r l s . T h a t makes t w o o f u s . Q . I t d o e s n ' t make a n y s e n s e . P h i l : No. I c a n ' t e x a c t l y remember, b u t I c a n g e t t h l s i n f o r m a t i o n f o r you o u t o f my f i l e s , a n d I w i l l . Maybe t h a t would be b e t t e r , r a t h e r t h a n t o t r y t o o u t - q u e s s t h i s . T h e r e was a whole series o f p r o j e c t s t o be done w i t h a lump sum t y p e o f a p p r o p r i a t i o n .

    S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r : B u t who set t h e p r i o r i t y o n c e t h a t lump sum was g i v e n ? The U n i v e r s i t y u n i t s wen t back a n d d e c i d e d , and t h e y d e c i d e d t o d o o t h e r p r o j e c t s r a t h e r t h a n t o d o t h e r o o f ? Ans. Y e s . M r . S t i s h : But h e r e t h e p r o j e c t s were f u n d e d , a l s o . -1 t h i n k you a r e m i s s i n g t h e po in t - -These p r o j e c t s were a l l i n one lump and t h e r e w a s n ' t enough money t o d o e v e r y t h i n g i n t h e lump. T h e r e f o r e , w e u s e d t h e money a s f a r a s it would g o , b u t d i d n ' t h a v e enough t o c o m p l e t e t h e r e q u e s t b e c a u s e t h e r e w a s n ' t enough f u n d i n g . P h i l : T h i s g e t s back t o t h e game o f econ- o m i c s , where t h e programs expand . A s t h e program wen t a l o n g , w e had t o d e c i d e on some p r i o r i t i e s a n d t h i s p r o j e c t w a s a b o u t 3 rd b e c a u s e w e o n l y g o t 3 t h i n g s done o u t o f t h e 5 t h a t w e would h a v e l i k e d t o have had done .

    S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r reminded t h e commi t t ee members t o b r e a k i n and a s k q u e s t i o n s whenever t h e y needed i n f o r m a t i o n o r had a q u e s t i o n .

    S t i s h : T h i s was i t e m 4 , a n d t h e a u d i t o r i u m c u r t a i n s were d e l e t e d from t h i s p a r t i c u l a r r e q u e s t so f a r a s t h e f i r s t f ew i t e m s i n t h e s i t u a t i o n i t s e l f . A s I was s a y i n g , a l l t h e s e t h i n g s are n e c e s s a r y , b u t some are more s o t h a n o t h e r s , and i f o n e p o s t - poned t h i s t y p e o f t h i n g it d o e s r e q u i r e more f u n d s l a t e r o n . The o t h e r i t e m t h a t I had some q u e s t i o n a b o u t b e c a u s e I a g a i n was n o t s u r e i f you d e l e t e d i t - -was t h e r e n o v a t i o n o f t h e l o c k e r rooms i n t h e p o o l . A few y e a r s a g o , t h i s same t y p e o f item w a s done on t h e women's side w i t h s t a t e f u n d s , and now it s e e m s t o be an i t e m t h a t i s n o t able t o be t a k e n c a r e o f t h i s t i m e .

    S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r : I t h i n k one o f t h e t h i n g s I was t r y i n g t o g e t a t e a r l i e r i n my o t h e r q u e s t i o n was -- w e a p p r o p r i a t e d a lump sum a n d w e d i d t h a t on t h e bas is o f what w e t h o u g h t t h e p r i o r i t i e s m i g h t be . You c h o s e t o r e o r d e r t h o s e p r i o r i t i e s , and now come back f o r f u n d i n g f o r t h o s e same t h i n g s a g a i n . W e c o u l d a p p r o p r i a t e a lump sum, which w e w i l l p r o b a b l y wind up d o i n g , a n d you w i l l s t i l l r e o r d e r t h o s e p r i o r i t i e s - - s o I d o n ' t know t h a t anyone c a n b e blamed f o r s o m e t h i n g n o t b e i n g d o n e , o r why someth i i lg was changed . P h i l , would you l i k e t o r e s p o n d t o t h a t ?

    P h i l : I would l i k e t o r e s p o n d t o o n e comment you d i d make, a n d it m i g h t e x p l a i n some o f t h e t h i n k i n g t h a t went i n t o t h i s .

  • ~ o n y Range B u i l d i n g February 1 2 , 1977 Page 1 3

    E'or example, a t MSU, and y o u ' l l be h e a r i n g more a b o u t t h i s a l s o , b u t i n r e r o o f i n g and r e d o i n g f a c i l i t i e s t h a t a r e on s e l f l i q u i d a t i n g b u i l d i n g s such a s f i e l d houses--and I n o t i c e t h a t a t Western , t h e f i r s t s u b - b u i l d i n g was - - ( in te r rup ted- -Yes , I dm aware--I see your criticism t h e r e , and t h e r e i s no p rob lem. ) W e a s k e d t h e U n i v e r s i t y sys tem, when t h e s e t h i n g s w e r e b e i n g c o n s i d e r e d , i f t h e y would a t t e m p t t o p u t some l o c a l f u n d s back i n t o t h i s p r o j e c t i n t h e programs, and t o t a k e c a r e o f such i t e m s t h a t were s p e c i f i c a l l y f o r a t h l e t i c f a c i l i t i e s , s t u d e n t f a c i l i t i e s , dorms, o r a n y t h i n g t h a t c o u l d have l o c a l fund s e l f l i q u i d a t i n g a s p e c t s t o it. So a s you go th rough h e r e , you a r e go ing t o see where f i e l d houses , a t h l e t i c f a c i l i t i e s , and t h i s t y p e o f thing--swimming p o o l s and t h i n g s l i k e th i s - -were knocked o u t , s t r i c t l y because w e have a t t e m p t e d t o n e g o t i a t e w i t h t h e U n i v e r s i t y sys tem f o r l o c a l f u n d s t o do t h o s e p ro - jects. I n f a c t , w e s t i l l f e e l t h a t t h a t i s t h e way t o do it . ( i n t e r r u p t e d -- I see your p o i n t t h e r e , P h i l , and I u n d e r s t a n d t h a t . The o n l y q u e s t i o n I have i s t h e r o o f on t h e o l d gym, and t h e o l d gym i s p r i m a r i l y used fo r - - )

    P h i l : One o t h e r t h i n g h e r e , M r . Chairman, t h a t might be a f a c t o r . I f t h i s i s used a s a c l a s s r o o m now, it i s p o s s i b l e t h a t I might have made a m i s t a k e . I ' l l s a y th is - -we t r i e d from August t o -- I t h i n k w e g o t t h i s i n f o r m a t i o n and t h e s e break-downs i n November, and w e had r e q u e s t e d them back i n August o r September. I know it was tough t o (jet u s t o i t e m - i z e a l l t h i s s t u f f . When w e g o t them i n November, and t h e book had t o go t o p r e s s a b o u t t h e f i r s t o f December, w e were h a r d p r e s s e d t o check o u t a l l o f t h e s e t h i n g s . T h i s might be a c a s e h e r e , where t h i s i s a n academic f a c i l i t y and g o t lumped i n a s a gymnasium. Ans. Y e s , t h e name of t h e b u i l d i n g i s gymnasium, and would i n d i c a t e t h a t t h i s i s t h e c a s e , P h i l , and j u s t l o o k i n g a t t h i s , I r e c o g n i z e t h e s i t u a t i o n .

    P h i l : Maybe t h a t might a c c o u n t f o r z e r o i n g o u t t h a t one . H e r e i t e r a t e d some of h i s fo rmer s t a t e m e n t s , and made a b r i e f comment on t h e b u i l d i n g c a l l e d "Old Main. I t was a b u i l d i n q t h a t would r e q u i r e a l o t of a t t e n t i o n r a n d f e l t t h a t r a t h e r t h a n j u s t do one l i t t l e t h i n g , t h e y were g o i n g t o have t o a d d r e s s t h a t whole b u i l d i n g .

    S e n a t o r Fasbender a sked f o r o t h e r q u e s t i o n s from members of t h e committee. There w e r e none, s o M r . Leach was a s k e d t o c o n t i n u e w i t h t h e n e x t U n i v e r s i t y .

    Duane M . Leach, Nor the rn Montana C o l l e g e , gave o u t a b r o c h u r e on NMC, a t t a c h e d . H e mentioned t h e p o s i t i o n o f t h e c o l l e g e i n t h e U n i v e r s i t y sys tem. H e s a i d t h e y a r e a s k i n g f o r a d i e s e l l a b o r a t o r y o f 15 ,000 s q u a r e f e e t , and t h e amount o f $350,000. H e s a i d t h e y had t o d r o p some, a l o t o f p l a n n i n g had been done, and t h e y had t r i e d t o d e t e r m i n e f o r sur 'e i f p e o p l e t r a i n e d t h e r e were employable. H e s a i d t h e y were ask- i n g f o r s h e e r s p a c e and t h a t i n r e q u e s t i n g a m e t a l b u i l d i n g , c o o r d i n a t i n g it w i t h t h e d e c o r o f t h e campus, and some way t h r o u g h t h e g e n e r a l services a d m i n i s t r a t i o n t h e y might g e t i t . They had done a r a t h e r thorough j o b o f s e e k i n g a l t e r n a t i v e s , gave a n e s t i m a t e d o p e r a t i o n a l expense on comple t ion ( i n t h e

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    hand o u t , a t t a c h e d ) a n d m e n t i o n e d ' t h a t it had been c u t down f rom t h e o r i g i n a l $350 ,000 . H e s a i d t h e y p r o v i d e 3 roles-- t h e y p r o v i d e t h e s t u d e n t s w i t h t e c h n i c a l s k i l l s , t r a i n i n g f o r v o - t e c h t e a c h e r s , and w i t h t h e b a c h e l o r o f t e c h n o l o g y , t h e y are t a k i n g s t u d e n t s t h r o u g h a 4 y e a r program.

    S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r : The i n i t i a l r e q u e s t t h a t was s e n t f rom y o u r campus t o t h e Board o f R e g e n t s was f o r $465 ,000 . The c o n s t r u c - t i o n c o s t a l o n e i s $300,000 . D o you s t i l l have t h e same s q u a r e f o o t s p a c e ? Ans. W e l l S e n a t o r , it j u s t k e e p s b e i n g r e d u c e d . Q . What w i l l you c u t o u t ? Ans. W e w i l l have 5 ,000 s q . f e e t r a t h e r t h a n 15 ,000 . Now t h a t was s e n t o r i g i n a l l y t o t h e Board . The Board o f R e g e n t s l o o k e d a t it, M r . H a u c k ' s o f f i c e --I t h i n k s i m u l t a n e o u s l y , a n d it wae r e d u c e d t o $350 ,000 . A t t h a t t i m e w e were t o l d t h a t t h e y t h o u g h t w e c o u l d g e t t h e j o b done f o r t h a t k i n d o f f i g u r e , and now we're down, I t h i n k you s a i d t o $279,000. I c a n ' t s t a n d h e r e a n d t e l l you wha t w e c a n g e t done f o r t h a t . A s I s a y , we're l o o k i n g a t a metal b u i l d i n g t h a t w e c a n se t a d j a c e n t t o o t h e r t e c h n i c a l a r e a s t h a t w e c a n p u t on some v e n e e r so t h a t it w i l l match up w i t h t h e o t h e r d e c o r o f t h e campus; b u t it i s a b s o l u t e l y e s s e n t i a l t o u s b e c a u s e w e a r e g rowing i n t h a t a r e a . W e are g rowing i n s t u d e n t s t h a t w e r e coming f o r o n e and two years--now f o r f o u r , and I r e a l i z e t h a t q u i t e f r e q u e n t l y p o e p l e s a y t o m e - - W e l l , y o u ' r e d o i n g s o m e t h i n g t h a t t h e t e c h c e n t e r s are d o i n g . My answer t o t h a t h a s t o be--No, w e were d o i n g it 25 y e a r s a g o and a s p a r t o f t h e o r i g i n a l m i s s i o n o f t h i s i n s t i t u t i o n . I t i n c l u d e d t h e s e t h i n g s back i n 1929 , f i r s t became o p e r a t i o n a l a b o u t 1942 a n d 6 , b u t n o n e - t h e - l e s s , t h e s t u d e n t s are t h e r e a n d t h e y c o n t i n u e t o come.

    S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r : I g u e s s t h a t d i d n ' t answer my q u e s t i o n a n d maybe you c a n ' t . Did you c u t o u t a l o t o f m a t e r i a l t o g e t down t o t h a t l e v e l ? Did you o u t some p rog rams t h a t you o r i g i n a l l y had i n i t ? Ans. N o . W e still. want t h e same p rog ram, b u t i t ' s o b v i o u s t h a t o u r o r i g i n a l p r o p o s a l w i t h some equ ipmen t a n d t h i n g s w e would l i k e t o h a v e aye g o i n g t o have t o g o . I g u e s s a l l I c a n s a y t o you v e r y candidly i s t h a t we're g o i n g t o work w i t h w h a t e v e r w e c a n g e t , and we d e s p e r a t e l y n e e d t h i s f a c - i l i t y . I f w e c a n ' t g e t t h a t l a r g e a f a c i l i t y , maybe w e ' r e g o i n g t o have t o go w i t h a l i t t l e smaller o n e . Is t h e r e some- t h i n g else y o u ' d l i k e t o ask me?

    S e n a t o r F a s b e n d e r : L a s t t i m e we r e c o g n i z e d t h a t b u i l d i n g t h e b u i l d i n g s i s n o t n e c e s s a r i l y t h e main cost . Whenever a b u i l d i n g i s b u i l t it r e q u i r e s p rog rams and p e o p l e t o f i l l it and some l o n g r a n g e costs are i n t h e r e , I n o t i c e d i n g o i n g o v e r y o u r e s t i m a t e d o p e r a t i o n a l costs for t h e $350 ,000 b u i l d i n g t h a t you h a v e n ' t r e d u c e d them a bit f rom t h e $460 ,000 cos t . Ans. I d o n ' t know w h e t h e r we c a n . I f t h e b u i l d i n g i s s m a l l e r , t h a t m i g h t be a p o s s i b i l i t y . We're h o p e f u l t h a t we m i g h t r e c e i v e $350 ,000 f o r t h i s b u i l d i n g . We've even been h o p e f u l t h a t w e m i g h t r e c e i v e more. I'm n o t g o i n g t o come b e f o r e you a n d t e l l you t h a t w e c a n c u t t h e s e costs way back. I d o n ' t know wha t h e a t , l i g h t s , a n d u t i l i t i e s a r e g o i n g t o do . I r e a l l y d o n ' t .

  • L o n g Range B u i l d i n g F e b r u a r y 1 2 , 1977 Page 15

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : A r e w e b u i l d i n g a b u i l d i n g w i t h o u t h a v i n g any i d e a w h a t ' s go ing t o b e done w i t h i t ? Ans. No. No, w e know p r e c i s e l y what i s g o i n g t o be done w i t h i t , and what i t ' s g o i n g t o be used f o r , and why i t ' s t h e f i r s t p r i o r i t y . A t t h e same t i m e , we 'd l i k e t o have a l i b r a r y as w e l l , I t l i i n k M r . Hauck s t a t e d t h a t it i s d e s i r a b l e , b u t g o t jugg led o u t . W e f e e l t h a t w e have some v e r y c r i t i c a l needs . Nor the rn Montana C o l l e g e i s a growing i n s t i t u t i o n r i g h t now, and it seems t o m e t h a t t h e r e i s e v e r y good r e a s o n t o b e l i e v e t h a t w e w i l l c o n t i n u e t o do s o .

    Andy Van Tey l ingen asked t h e chairman i f he c o u l d a d d r e s s t h e q u e s t i o n . I work f o r t h e U n i v e r s i t y System a l s o . You a s k e d a b o u t t h e funds f o r o p e r a t i o n . The f u n d s f o r o p e r a t i o n t h a t w e r e p u t t o g e t h e r were based on t h e o r i g i n a l b u i l d i n g a s e n v i s - ioned . The Regents made a c u t , and because o f t h e t i m e l a g t h a t P h i l Hauck was t a l k i n g a b o u t and g e t t i n g t h e s e forms t o you a s f a s t a s w e c o u l d , it was n o t p o s s i b l e t o go a l l t h r o u g h them and s c a l e down t h e o p e r a t i n g c o s t s on some bas is - -assuming t h e b u i l d i n g was g o i n g t o be s m a l l e r . I t w o u l d n ' t do q u i t e a s many t h i n g s , and t h a t i s why t h a t f i g u r e may sound a l i t t l e s t r a n g e a t t i m e s .

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : Is it p o s s i b l e t o b u i l d a 15 ,000 s q u a r e f o o t b u i l d i n g and p u t t h e programs i n it t h a t you want , o r a t l e a s t some o f them f o r t h e $279,000 o r 280--almost? Ans. I t ' s g o i n g t o be v e r y d i f f i c u l t , and what it may mean i s h i g h e r o p e r a t i n g c o s t s because you run it l o n g e r d u r i n g t h e day and have t o h i r e more s t a f f t o do it.

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : How l o n g would it t a k e you t o work o u t t h e s i t u a t i o n where w e would know whether t h o s e h i g h e r o p e r a t i n g c o s t s a r e g o i n g t o be more e x p e n s i v e i n t h e l o n g r u n t h a n b u i l d i n g t h e b u i l d i n g l a r g e r ? Ans. T h a t ' s a tough o n e , be- c a u s e it g e t s i n t o t h e b u d g e t i n g o f t h e s c h o o l . What i s t h e f a c u l t y s t u d e n t r a t i o g o i n g t o be? I c a n answer t h a t q u e s t i o n b u t I d o n ' t know i f I c a n g e t it i n t i m e t o make a recommend- a t i o n f o r t h e b u i l d i n g - - b u t 1'11 t r y .

    P h i l : I f I might make a comment, M r . Chairman. There i s i n t h i s a b o u t $110,000 f o r equ ipment - - th i s i s an o p e r a t i n g pro- gram. W e r e a l i z e t h a t t h i s b u i l d i n g w i l l p r o b a b l y be s c a l e d down from t h e 15 ,000 s q u a r e fee t , however the b i g g e s t c u t w e w e r e l o o k i n g a t i s equipment . I t i s an o p e r a t i n g program now, and w h i l e it might b e v e r y d e s i r e a b l e t o augument t h e e q u i p - ment t h e y have w i t h some new, w e f e l t t h a t t h e mere f a c t t h a t t h e b u i l d i n g were a b l e t o g o t h i s biennium would augment. I f it w e r e pos tponed t h i s biennium, it would j u s t add t o t h e i n - f l a t i o n a r y c o s t s o f b u i l d i n g . I might j u s t s a y t h a t g e n e r a l l y when w e d o t h e b u i l d i n g program w e t r y t o g e t a s many o f t h e s e g o i n g a s w e can under f i n a n c i a l r e s t r i c t i o n . With t h e $15 m i l l i o n a v a i l a b l e u n d e r t h i s program on t h e b a s i s t h a t it is b e t t e r t o go now t h a n t o pos tpone it a c o u p l e of y e a r s be- c a u s e i n f l a t i o n w i l l r e d u c e it even f u r t h e r . I t ' s g o i n g t o c o s t you t h a t much more l a te r . You'd be s m a r t e r t o t a k e t h e

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    equipment o u t now, b u i l d t h e b u i l d i n g i n t h e n e x t 2 y e a r s , and buy t h e equipment 2 y e a r s from now.

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : Is t h i s b u i l d i n g b a s i c a l l y a n open s p a c e b u i l d i n g which d o e s n ' t s p e c i f i c a l l y have t o be d e s i g n e d f o r any t y p e o f equipment? Ans. Well, we w i l l know what i s g o i n g t o b e p u t i n t o it r e g a r d l e s s a s t o whe the r it i s g o i n g t o be p u t i n now o r l a t e r . I f it i s t h e t y p e o f equipment t h a t re- q u i r e s a c o n c r e t e b a s e , f o r example t o be b o l t e d down, t h i s w i l l come o u t i n t h e d e s i g n o f t h i s f a c i l i t y .

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : So it may be p o s s i b l e t h a t t h e c o n s t r u c t i o n c o s t s o f $300,000 t h a t o r i g i n a l l y went i n - ~ Q E p r a c t i c a l l y 280, w i l l b u i l d t h e b a s i s ? Ans, P h i l . I ' m p r e t t y w e l l conv inced t h i s w i l l s e r v e t h e i r program f a r b e t t e r t h a n t h e program i s being s e r v e d now, b u t I d o n ' t want t o m i s l e a d t h e committee-- t h e y might come back and a s k f o r equipment .

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : So w e may b e b u i l d i n g a b u i l d i n g w i t h o u t p u t t i n g any equipment i n t o i t ? P h i l : No, w e ' l l be p u t t i n g t h e e x i s t i n g equipment i n t o i t . They have a n e x i s t i n g program g o i n g now, and w e ' l l p u t i n any equipment t h a t w e can t h a t ' s nec- e s s a r y t o make it b e t t e r - - b u t any equipment w e p u t i n w i l l p r o b a b l y be a t t h e s a c r i f i c e o f s q u a r e f o o t a g e .

    M r . Leach: Could I a d d r e s s a n o t h e r q u e s t i o n ? I know t h a t t h e l i b r a r y was n o t v o t e d f o r by t h e Governor. I would j u s t l i k e t o s a y , and I t h i n k you s h o u l d see t h e f i g u r e s t h e r e , t h a t it w a s t h e p r i o r i t y 2 a t Nor the rn Montana C o l l e g e f o r $1.5 m i l l i o n , t h a t Nor the rn Montana C o l l e g e i s t h e o n l y u n i t i n t h e sys tcm t h a t h a s no L i b r a r y B u i l d i n g . The 42nd s e s s i o n o f t h e Montana L e g i s l a t u r e p r o v i d e d u s w i t h some p l a n n i n g money, we've u t i l - i z e d some o f it i n c o o p e r a t i o n w i t h M r . Hauck's o f f i c e , looked a t e x i s t i n g f a c i l i t i e s on t h e campus, had a n e n g i n e e r i n g s t u d y done, and a t t h e p r e s e n t t i m e , it l o o k s l i k e none o f t h i s i s f e a s i b l e . P r e s e n t l y t h e L i b r a r y i s housed i n a series o f rooms i n t h e E a s t wing o f t h e A d m i n i s t r a t i o n B u i l d i n g . T h i s i s n o t o n l y a n i n e f f i c i e n t , b u t a l s o a n e x p e n s i v e , t h i n g t o o p e r a t e . H e s a i d t h i s i s a v e r y r e a l need t o them, one t h a t h a s already been a d d r e s s e d by t h e L e g i s l a t u r e , and something t o t h i n k abou t . H e ment ioned t h e i r c o n t i n u e d i n t e r e s t , and s a i d if t h e r e w e r e any q u e s t i o n s on t h e main tenance he was open f o r q u e s t i o n s .

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : There w e r e no funds c u t from Nor the rn Montana C o l l e g e i n t h e o p e r a t i o n s ? Ans. T h a t ' s r i g h t , M r . Chairman.

    Montana C o l l e g e o f S c i e n c e and M i n e r a l Technology, M r . D e Money, P r e s i d e n t gave t h e p r e s e n t a t i o n . H e s a i d b e f o r e he a d d r e s s e d t h e i s s u e s , he would l i k e t o t h a n k t h e L e g i s l a t u r e f o r t h e money t h e y had g i v e n them l a s t y e a r , H e s a i d w i t h t h e o l d and compact c o l l e g e , it was n e c e s s a r y t o have p l a n n i n g t o u t i l i z e t o t h e b e s t a d v a n t a g e t h e s p a c e t h e y had. H e s t r e s s e d t h e need f o r p l a n n i n g . U n f o r t u n a t e l y , t h e l o c a l funds t h a t M r . Hauck ment ioned does n o t e x i s t on t h i s campus budge t , and w e made q u i t e a s t r o n g p i t c h f o r t h i s very b l a t e n t l y on o u r camPust s i n c e w e do n o t have a t present a p r o f e s s i o n a l on our

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    s t d f f who can a d e q u a t e l y h a n d l e t h i s t y p e o f a s s ignment . H e s a i d t h o s e campuses t h a t have made ' t h e most e f f i c i e n t u s e o f t h e i r b u i l d i n g s a r e t h o s e t h a t have had p $ o f e s s i o n a l p l a n n e r s . Looking o v e r t h e t o t a l d o l l a r s w e have , maintenance remode l ing , which i s p r i o r i t y #1--our c a t e g o r y 1 needs amounted t o $ 4 9 0 , 0 0 0 , r o u t h l y 1 2 % o f t h e t o t a l . Under t h e e z e c u t i v e b u d g e t , t h a t h a s b e e n reduced t o $153,000 o r rough ly 1 0 % of t h e t o t a l . I would l i k e t o make a p i t c h f o r some e q u a l i t y h e r e . We have a sewer l i n e f o r $ 7 5 , 0 0 0 which h a s more p r i o r i t y than t h e maintenance and remodeling--but t h i s i s grouped t o g e t h e r . I would hope t o have a n o p p o r t u n i t y t o p u t t h a t a s a number 1. H e showed t h e p i c t u r e and b r o u g h t a t t e n t i o n t o t h e sewer l i n e , H e s a i d i n the p r o j e c t s t h a t were e l i m i n a t e d , one was t h e maintenance t o t h e p r e s i d e n t ' s r e s i d e n c e . H e s a i d t h e r e had been cr i t ic ism o v e r t h e r e d e c o r a t i o n , and now t h e y were coming t o t h e com- m i t t e e f o r ma in tenance , t h e n asked Mrs. DeMoney t o e x p l a i n t h e needs .

    M r s . Delloney spoke o f t h e i n a d e q u a t e sewer sys tem, t h e f l o o d i n g of t h e wash room a r e a , t h e i n a d e q u a t e s t o r m window s i t u a t i o n , e tc . She mentioned t h e h e a t i n g problem i n t h e house , t h e i n a d e q u a t e b a t h room s e r v i c e on one f l o o r .

    Another p r o f e s s o r from t h e U n i v e r s i t y s a i d he f e l t t h i s was number ] - - the sewer. One of t h e t h i n g s , i n p u t t i n g i n f o r t h e s e p r o j e c t s , i f t h e money i s n o t f u l l y a p p r o p r i a t e d , t h e n w e must p r i o r i t i z e t h e l i s t and do t h e most p r e s s i n g needs f i r s t . H e s a i d it was d i f f i c u l t t o j u g g l e f i g u r e s n o t knowing what tile e n r o l l m e n t would b e , it meant j u g g l i n g s t a f f , room, e tc . H e would a l s o l i k e t o s e e r e c o n s i d e r e d some money f o r l a n d s c a p i n g , e tc . B e s a i d t h e y have two b u i l d i n g s on t h e cam- pus t h a t he f e e l s have some s e r i o u s d o u b t s a s t o t h e i r s t r u c - t u r a l i n t e g r i t y . P h i l and I and Andy have gone t h r o u g h t h e s e s e v e r a l t i m e s and I d o n ' t t h i n k t h e y w i l l d i s a g r e e w i t h me-- w e need some h e l p i n o u r main h a l l and i n o u r e n g i n e e r i n g b u i l d i n g t o r e a l l y d e t e r m i n e what i s t h e s t a t u s o f t h e s e b u i l d - i n g s . The e n g i n e e r i n g b u i l d i n g i s h e l d t o g e t h e r by, I t h i n k , 8 long b o l t s . Y e s , t h e y a r e . They e x t e n d t h r o u g h t h e b u i l d i n g . T h e main h a l l l o o k s f i n e from t h e o u t s i d e u n t i l you g e t i n s i d e , t h e n you f i n d o u t t h e c e n t e r i s d r o p p i n g down a little, and t h i s w a s c u t o u t of t h e r e g e n t s budget-- the LRB r e q u e s t , and w e would u r g e you t o r e c o n s i d e r t h i s because w e do need some p r o f e s s i o n a l h e l p on o u r campus.

    J ack C r o s s e r : I n r e g a r d t o t h e former s t r u c t u r a l s t a t e m e n t of t h e e n g i n e e r i n g b u i l d i n g o f t h e main h a l l i n t h e o l d gym-- W e had emplyed a c o n s t r u c t i o n c o n s u l t a n t j u s t r e c e n t l y t o go o v e r t h o s e b u i l d i n g s t h o r o u g h l y because t h e r e a r e q u e s t i o n s t h a t s u b s i d e n c e i s c a u s i n g t h o s e b u i l d i n g s t o b r e a k up.

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : The c o s t would be born by t h e Department of A d m i n i s t r a t i o n ? P h i l : R i g h t .

    M r . DeMoney: ?Ir. Chairman, w e have a n o t h e r m a t t e r t o b r i n g t o your a t t e n t i o n - - t h e sewer l i n e which i s one o f t h e p r i o r i t i e s , and h e r e i s M r . B u r t t o b r i n g you t h a t d e t a i l .

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    M r . V i c B u r t , b u s i n e s s o f f i c e and d i r e c t o r o f t h e main tenance p l a n t s a i d t h a t t h r e e p r o p l e had a l r e a d y a d r e s s e d t h e sewer, and b a s i c a l l y on t h e i r campus a l l t h e b u i l d i n g s on t h e e a s t s i d e o f t h e campus have a g r a v i t y f e e d t h a t d r a i n s t h e l i n e i n t o t h e sewer d i s t r i c t . E v e r y t h i n g on t h e w e s t s i d e , w i t h one except ion--a b u i l d i n g t h a t h a s a s e p t i c t a n k , i s handled w i t h pumping s t a t i o n s and a r e v e r y e x p e n s i v e t o m a i n t a i n , a s w e l l a s u s i n g a l a r g e amount o f ene rgy . H e s a i d t h i s p l a n i s t o i n c l u d e a l l t h o s e b u i l d i n g s which i n c l u d e t h e mining and geology b u i l d i n g s which have j u s t been completed-- the museum, l i b r a r y b u i l d i n g s , and h e a t i n g p l a n t s ; it would go down p a r k s t reet and w e s t p a r k , s o u t h a c r o s s t h e campus and hook i n t o t h e cen- t r a l sewer . T h i s is one o f t h e t h r e e p r o j e c t s t h a t was approved by t h e s t a t e t o a p p l y t o t h e EEA f o r f u n d i n g , and a s you know, a l l t h e s t a t e p r o j e c t s were t u r n e d down s o t h i s i s o u r number one p r i o r i t y .

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : When t h e p r o j e c t s t a r t e d o u t a s a $50,000 p r o j e c t and t h e board o f r e g e n t s i n c r e a s e d it t o 75--why? Ans. W e l l , t h a t S e n a t o r , was when it f i r s t s t a r t e d o u t - - t h a t was o u r es t imate- -$50,000. When w e s u b m i t t e d t h i s EDA a p p l i c - a t i o n , t h e commissioner and e n g i n e e r s a i d it would be $ 7 5 , 0 0 0 .

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : Because it was rev iewed , n o t because you w e r e a s k i n g f o r a g r a n t ? Ans. No, t h a t was i m p o r t a n t t o o , b u t a c t u a l l y t h e s t a f f f i g u r e s of $50,000 w e had no e x p e r t i s e , and t h i s was more r e a l i s t i c .

    R e p r e s e n t a t i v e Kvaalen: I t h o u g h t t h e c i t y b u i l t t h e sewers, you s a y you a r e r u n n i n g it down some street . On your p r o p e r t y , I assume you have t o b u i l d t h e sewers, b u t you r u n it r i g h t down Park S t r e e t ? Ans. The main d i s t r i b u t i o n sewer. The c i t y - - c o u n t y sewer e n d s r i g h t a t t h e e n d o f Pa rk S t r e e t , which i s t h e end o f t h e c i t y l i m i t s , and t h e y w i l l r o u t e t h e sewer f o r u s a t c o s t . I n o t h e r words, t h e y ' l l a s k a d d i t i o n a l c o s t be born by t h e c o l l e g e . T h i s i s a comple te r e - r o u t e o f t h e sewer. Park S t r e e t p o r t i o n o f it w o n ' t be hand led , b u t you see t h i s carr ies across t h e campus and down Diamond. P h i l : Normally when t h e c i t y b u i l d s a sewer, t h e y draw up a SID e t c , i n t h i s c a s e , t h e o n l y p r o p e r t y i n v o l v e d i s t h e c o l l e g e , s o it i s c h e a p e r t o r o u t e it t h i s way and do it o u r s e l v e s . M r . Bur t : W e have a drawing h e r e , a t t a c h e d .

    M r . DeMoney gave a summary o f t h e i r a ims , t h e i r needs o f p l a n n i n g , and t h e e f f e c t o f l o n g r a n g e p l a n n i n g on b o t h t h e e x t e r n a l campus and t h e i n t e r n a l .

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : The e x c e s s f u n d s t h a t a r e b e i n g g e n e r a t e d by s t u d e n t f e e s - - a r e you spend ing t h o s e on r e p a i r and main- t e n a n c e , o r what a r e you d o i n g with t h o s e ?

    Ans. M r . Bur t : A l l o f t h e b u i l d i n g f e e s a r e p ledged f o r s p e c i f i c p r o j e c t s . They a r e o n l y one p r o j e c t , t h e s t u d e n t union d o r m i t o r y complex--a l l t h o s e b u i l d i n g f e e s a r e p ledged .

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    S e n a t o r Fasbender : Are you g e n e r a t i n g any e x c e s s r e v e n u e s i n t h o s e a r e a s ? Ans. Yes, w e do have some e x c e s s r e v e n u e s and t h o s e a g a i n w i l l b e d e d i c a t e d t o - - t h i s is a n open end bond i s s u e and e x c e s s r evenue w i l l go t o a p h y s i c a l e d u c a t i o n c e n t e r .

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : One o t h e r q u e s t i o n . On your sub-ca tegory I , when you had gone t h r o u g h and s t r u c k t h e f i r s t t h r e e i t e m s from Tech, and t h e l a s t t h r e e remain ing you 've l e f t t h e s e i n con- t i n g e n c i e s f o r t h e amount o c $25,000. Why i s t h a t ? Ans. P h i l : I j u s t knew you were g o i n g t o g e t t h a t . W e r e g o n i z e t h a t t h e r e a r e g o i n g t o be f e e s and c o n t i n g e n c i e s on t h e two p r o j e c t s t h a t a r e l e f t , and one of t h e s e t h i n g s t h a t - - w e l l , t h e r e s h o u l d be a f i g u r e i n t h e r e - - b u t t h e $25,000 d o e s n ' t - -

    S e n a t o r Fasbender : T h a t ' s o n l y a $35,009 p r o j e c t . P h i l : T h a t ' s t r u e . There was a c o n s i d e r a t i o n h e r e tha t - -we 've run i n t o l o n g and a rduous d i s c u s s i o n s w i t h Tech on t h i s be- fore- -under t h a t c o n s o l i d a t i o n we would l i k e t o g e t r i d o f a b u i l d i n g o v e r t h e r e , c a l l e d t h e shop c o n s o l i d a t i o n , w e would l i k e t o g e t r i d o f t h e m i l l b u i l d i n g , I t s i t s r i g h t i n t h e middle o f t h e i r campus- - i t ' s t h e o ld b o i l e r p l a n t ( p o i n t e d o u t t o t h e committee on t h e mag) . I t now h o l d s a bunch o f s t o r a g e , t h e p a i n t shop and a l i t t l e b i t of o t h e r t h i n g s . I t has c r e a t e d a l o t o f d i s c u s s i o n o v e r t h e r e . One o f t h e t h i n g s w e would l i k e t o do i s t o p u t up a m e t a l b u i l d i n g and g e t some of t h a t s t u f f o u t o f t h e r e t o t h e p o i n t w h ~ r e w e c o u l d t e a r t h a t b u i l d i n g down. They need t h e l a n d . I t is n o t good s o far a s I am concerned f o r any t y p e o f r e n o v a t i n g , and f o r a b u i l d i n g t o be occupying a pr ime p i e c e o f l a n d on a v e r y con- s t r i c t e d campus and used f o r s t o r a g e and shops w i t h v e r y minimum u s a g e , w e were hop ing t h a t w e would be a b l e t o p u t up a m e t a l b u i l d i n g under t h a t t i t l e o f shop c o n s o l i d a t i o n and h o p e f u l l y t e a r t h a t b u i l d i n g down. About t h a t $25,000 --I d o n ' t t h i n k w e c a n do it , b u t I t h i n k w e meant t o i n c r e a s e a b o u t $25,000 under t h a t shop c o n s o l i d a t i o n , b u t i n s t e a d o f t h a t , it remained under t h e o t h e r a p p r o p r i a t i o n . T h a t ' s a b o u t t h e o n l y e x p l a n a t i o n i have r i g h t now. -.--

    ] ~ a s t e r n Montana C o l l e g e , a c t i n g p r e s i d e n t John Van de Wete r ing spoke. H e l i s t e d t h e f i r s t p r i o r i t y a s maintenance and re- model ing , and w i t h t h e change o f s c h e d u l e , w e have l o s t a lot o f remodel ing p r o j e c t s . These w e r e a l l d e s i g n e d t o make b e t t e r u s e o f t h e b u i l d i n g s a v a i l a b l e . H e t h


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CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS PLAN (COOP)would not necessarily require activation of the COOP. b. Major Disaster. Any disaster likely to exceed local capabilities and require a broad range

Gigaton Problems Require Gigaton Solutions: Urban Systems ...old.sustainability.gatech.edu/publications/Urban_Sustainability_April... · Core Team Members - I would like to express

Gigaton Problems Require Gigaton Solutions: Urban Systems ...old.sustainability.gatech.edu/publications/Urban_Sustainability_April... · Core Team Members - I would like to express

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· Web viewIf any modifications are identified that may require an in-depth review, such as a modification that would require an amendment prior to use, review the modified operation

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REQUIRE EVALUATION BEFORE IMPLEMENTING EX- ECUTIVE ...€¦ · Business Growth Act of 2015,’’ which would require agencies to un-dertake notice and comment under section 553,

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regulations require that any excavated waste materials would require proper characterization (hazardous vs. solid waste) and disposal at a currently licensed solid waste management

regulations require that any excavated waste materials would require proper characterization (hazardous vs. solid waste) and disposal at a currently licensed solid waste management