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Mrs, HUNT s ta ted that she does not feel that she
Fossesses any i n ~ ~ t i o n wbich i s direct ly Telated to the
burglary a t the Democratic National Headquarters and that·}·. ~ g ~ ~ ~ i ~the only information she possesses concerning th i s
~. i s what she has read in the loca l n e > ~ s p a p e r s Mrs •. - - · ~ ' ' O O @ ~
noted that she has read considerable information-toeffec t tha t her husband. EVERETTE HOHARD HUNT, JR. , ..
iuy· have been assccia ted with t.l,.e ir .dividuals who w e r e e ; j ~ ~ ~ i ~ J ~ ~ ~ ~ ; r f ~ ~ ;axresteJ fe r the burglary of . the Democratic National C
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SA displayed a ser ies ofFhotographs of un. ::.no;m 'olhite males and a
lihich were signed BOB and JUAN CJ..RLOS• . .:. ~ - - · " · : . . ~ ~ ' ; ' ;. ~ - < · ~ .. l- . _ ; : _ : . - : : : ; ~ ~ > · ·· :1 : . - = : ~ ~ :
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= · = ~ : t ~ a ~ ~ ~ ; d ~ ~ ~ ~ r i ; ~ n w ~ t s o ~ e ~ ~ n ~ ~ ~ - ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ · , : · ~ ~ ; ; l ~ ~ ~ ~u. s TreaS'..n:y Department. She s ta ted tr .at she had nearly _ . _ , . , . ~ . ; . - ; : . · ·forgot ten about the gun but sta ted tha t she does not k.•ov bow .': .: : ' ~ , I for 'When th is gun was removed ttO 'l her resicenee. She s ta ted ·
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:Ltduring the. evening homos of June. 24. 19-72. . : : ~ ~ ·: - ; . ~ ~ [ ~ ~ : . ~ : ; t : ~f ~ l l o w i n g photographs t o - ~ - ~ ' ? " ~ ~ : ~ ? ~ ' ;
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• . 1-trs. HlJNT stated t ha t a t the present t ime she ·bel ieves her lrusband to be employed a t the w"hite House asa con 'c:ultant, a t the Robert R. Hullen Ccmpany as· a l .Titer e.ndholding an unkr.own posi t ion with the Committee to Re-Elect
. the President . Mrs. HUNT s ta ted t ha t in the Spring of 1.972,
her husband made two t r ips to · ~ E U l i , Floc-ida, &nd one t r i p to ·- ' - ~ ' >Los Angeles, Calif-ornia, for li'hat she believed to be negot ia t ions : ~ ~concerning the change of the Republlca..'l National Convention ,_<,:
• from San Diego, California, to Hi.ami, Flor ida •
. . .... r-Jrs. hlJNT ztated tha t she l a s t saw her husband onMay 31, 1972, 't;'hen she departed "With he"t· daughter for a · ·>·'? ;;,;,.
·vacat: .on tour of Europe. Hrs. h lJNT s ta ted t ha t she l a s t . · · : : ~ ~ : ~ ~ ~spoke to her husbond on June 21, 1972, by phone in London, ..._England, and he advi.zed her t ha t there -was a· "proplem" here in .. ··; : ; ~ : :Washington an<:] tha t he l·ms g o i ~ g to go to Nev Ym:,.k, Nev York,
to do t l ~ s i o n co=erc ia l s . 1-lrs. HUNT s ta ted tha t herhusband c l a i ~ e d tha t there was considerable haressment from
reporters and tha t he was· going to Nev York, Ne7 York, to do . :· '::/"{.the te lev is ion c ~ e r c i a l and t h ~ go on a vacat ion for a fev
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days to lu=e the repo; : ters a" lay f ran t he i r residence. . '::··. \.. .
1-trs. H\Th 'T s ta ted t ho t she· has not b e ~ d ~ : - s p O . . ' < e n · . ' > : · ~ ·with her husband s i n ~ e · tha t t i l ~ and t ha t she has nli' idea "'-•-'
concerning h i s trrescnt -...hereabouts. ·--: ::.
Hrs. RUNT stated th."t the t ens tha t ~ : ~ e displnyed ' : ; / ~ : ·to h = e a r l i = in the intervie-R cay bave been kept by her ··
husband in a s ~ r e t J dc?osi t bo:.: they oe>.intained a t the P,is;;s .. •.:.-,.·
National Bank a t tasconsin and H Street N.W., ~ " ' D C . Hrs. h 'U:<T. ·-.· <.· L z . . . . ~ : - e n ~ · . . . . . : . · .· r r - i l ( ,.,._._
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, - ~ ) r n N E T H J . P.ASER on June 30, 1972, disc lose t ha t E. HO .-IARD
·::-:·iroNT was l a s t i ssued Passpor t B-1811567 a t Washington, D.C.
· (WDC), on Ju ly 21, 1971, for proposc:d business t r ave l fo r one
:. month to France, England and Eelgiu.'Il. ::Ln his appl ica t ion ,
· : :dated Ju ly 21, 1971, he s t a t ed his i n t en t ion to depar t by a i r
· about .September, 197-1, and expected to take another t r i p abroad
·wi th in two years . This passpor t was va l id for f ive years 'to a l l co•mtries except . Cuba, North Korea and North
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· ' ·- ·under passpor t regu la t ions , t h i s ind iv idua l may use
· - · - ~ : : - · t h i s ' passpor t for la-wful t r ave l within the per iod of i t s
. v a l i d i t y ~ h e n e v e r and as of ten as des i red without f u r t t e r
.. not i f i ca t ion to the Department of State or other G o v ~ r C T . e n t.. <·agency. The Passport Offi ' :e does not r ece ive informst ion as
· · to _whether or when a passpor t i s used fo r foreign t rave l .
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f - + i < - ~ ~ - - ; _ . . ,. HUNT s t a t ed tha t he was born on October 9, 1918, a t. , Hamburg, New York, and the f i l e ref lectc:d t h a t his bi r th
c ~ r t i f i c a t e has been seen by passpor t au thor i t i e s . lie gnve hi s
_ ' _'permanent' res idence and mail ing address as 11120 River Road,
.. ·:.-Potomac, Y.c ryland, home te lephone 299-7366, business te lephone
- · . 293-2900. In the event of cicath or accident , he rzq-.;ested t h a t
· DOROfHY LOUISE HUNT, his wife, be not i f i ed a.t the home address .. -· · ~ ' : - ~ ~ : .. ...
. -·... , : : ' t : . : : - ~ - · These records show t h a t t h i s ind iv idua l as :s'n::RETTE
- c . ~ · R m i ' A R D HUNT, .TtL, was f i r s t i s sued Passport 638014 a t \-. DC onJune ·22, 1939, for proposed pleasu::::-e t r ave l for two ::-:cnths to
._ ; ;England, Scotland, France, Iceland, F o r ~ v a y , ::;,-:eden, Denr:-.ark and·Holland. He plan..'led to depi' rt from ~ i e w York City on the
. "Oslof jord" on Ju ly 5 , 1939 .. :rhis passpor t -was va'1i..d fe r two
··years·:· His - ,e=anent res idence ; ~ a s then l i s t ed as i - ~ 5 L.'l.ncaster
A v ~ n u e , · u f f ~ l o , _ Kew York. Hi's f a the r served as hi97 i d e r . t i f y i r . ~··_-_witness. By l e t t e r received in the Passport D i v i s i _ ~ : n on J'ur.c: 3, ..
:.1941. hi s fa ther , on hi s s t a t ionery as an a t to rney a t 163 Allen_St-reet,. South, Albany, New York, asked i his son ' s pass;>ort.. • . · ~ - - : : . .
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:hould b . 'L in for change of ~ ~ ' J f t ? ~ l n g ~ ; ; ; A : . s ~ o ~ n : ~ _ B - ~ t ~ f .was then on duty· with the Nc.V'/ and res id ing a t tha t Albany -:-•'''"·-_:r,;;:'ii :
address . Ee was informed by l e t t e r dated June 7, 1941, t ha t· '
the passpor t should be sent in to Washington for re ten t ion ·::-.;,,i_": :,,;tj·'
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EVERETTE HC.fARD HU1u, JR. , vas next issued Passpor t · · · · ; ; I i .
13850 a t New York City on February 20, 1943, to expire, on · . -.-·;:.
August 20, 1943, not va l id fo r t r ave l in any count ry except . . ..
..:;s,i·Aus t ra l ia for ne1o1.spaper work and nec<'ssary countr ies en rou te •. - ; ; : ; ; ~ This appl i ca t ion dated February 10, 19lf3, a t He·" York Ci ty was :] {:-,supported by a l e t t e r dated FebrJary 9 1943; from DANIEL · c ' ? ~ ~LOl Gw'ELL, E:cecutive Edi tor , L i fe , s t a t ing tha t h1JiiT was a . . _ : ; j ; ; ; _ : _ : . ~member of the s t a f f of t ~ t magazine who was pr_cceeding abroad - - ~ V { f .with the Paci f ic f l e e t w ~ t eventual assignment with- an Army _,c\·-,-·
uni t sorne'lolhere in the Pac if ic . His dra f t boerd number 343 - .,._-.,;'";:,;ij.
a t Albany issued the approprLHe permi t . He gave his per:::;anent<?':';':
res idence a t tha t t ime as 192 Euclid f,v=nue, Albany, New York, _ · ; , . ; ; ~ ; - ·He s ta ted tha t he had been in Iceland, Norway, Denmark, S w e d e n , . < 0 1 ~ YHolland, France, England and Scotland from June to September, . ··'c.,,· g;,_-1''
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~ . ; _ : . · . . . : - , ; ; : ~ ~ ~ · : -By undated l e t t e r , RUNT r e q u · ~ s t e d renewal of h is ., ~ ~ · ; - o : -
_1943 passpor t for proposed t r ave l tha t year and next under a < ~ t SGuggenheim c emoria 1 Foundat ion scholarship. On September 19, { - ; . , " ; : ' . ~1946, he was informed tha t the 1943 passpor t would be expi r ing . _- :: n•· t<>>l
on February 2{), 1947, so he might l i ke to apply fo r a new one . ~ : _ . f j ~He wrote a;:;ain on Sept.:ornber 24, 1946, s ta t ing t ha t he 'I<JOuld : - ~ : ; ' ~ · :seek a new passpor t and requested cance l la t ion of and re tu rn - : - : : ; _ ~ 0 : -of h is e a r l i e r passs>orts. · · . ~ . : ; ; ; , ~ _ , ; - i ~ ; ~ ; k ; ; t
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/r h e r m ~ ~ ment operatives. And he presents a cases ' f r l i J ' V Y J t ~ ' i i J n th<fl\"ll'avei:7} 1 · ~ ( li stack of evidence to prove his claim. gone to the 'Supreme Court about 44
Skolnick also maintains that Rennie times. So for better or worse, I hold the
SKJ· ~ @ k Davis, Abby Hoffman, and most ofthe dubious distinction of having been to
..... . ~ ~ ~ ~ · Chicago Seven, leaders o f t ~ h e Supreme Court of the United
F J fi during the 1968 e m o c r a t i c ~ -States more times than any other per-
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Convention, are all CIA agents. Here, son in the history of the country.
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again, he cites argument after argument COQ: So you never got your money
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a gueto make his case. Skolnick is e q u a l ~ y back?. B · adamant about the conspiracy theory SKOLNICK: No. But the point is that
involving President Kennedy's assassi- I found that other people had also
nation. But most startling of all, he been swindled in the courts. ThereforeA wide grin creases Sherman Skol
nick's face when you ask him If he
sleeps well, or whether his dreams are a
nightmarish pastiche of shadowy in
trigues and dark conspiracies. Sure I
sleep well, he replies, but rhere's some
thing in the way he says it that suggesrs
that Skolnick's nightmares begin not
when he sleeps but when he awakens.
For from that moment, Skolnick is a
man for whom every ring of the phone,letter in the mail, or knock on the door
takes on the ominous tone of a Kafkanovel. It is an existence that Skolnick
has not quite grown _accustomed to -
like Alice in Wondenand, excepr that
Skolnick's wonderland is far more vi-
olent and bizarre than anything A lice
ever witnessed. Since 1967 in a virtual
one:..man cr.1.sade, Skolnick.hos bucked.
crooked politicians, the syndicate, cor
rupt government officials, and a sus
pected agent provocateur or rwo.
Confined ro a wheelchair because of
polio, ru..,ming zhe show out ofhis living
room with the help ofa small, dedicated
volunteer staff, Skolnick has nonethe
less managed to gather enough evidence
to knock an Illinois governor out ofhis
seat, remove several corrnpt judges and
predict the resignation of ormer Vice
President Spiro Agnew months before
he stepped down from office. All ofwhich has taken its toll on Skolnick. He
has been arrested, harassed, and dis
credited by his powerful political enemies, much along the same lines as Jim
Garrison, Ma k Lane, and i\1arthaMitchell.
In fact, Skolnick has managed to
step on so many thumbs that he has had
more government agents calling on him
rh n have neighbors down the block.
But IfSkolnick has proved to be a Jere
miah of sorts, on some occasions he is
still more the master of the art of srartl ng disclosures-many of which still
remain to be prove.d true. For instance:
He strongly asserts that the United Air
Lines plane that crashed in Chicago in
1972 and which carried .lvirs. Howard[{wu aboard, was planned by govern-
broadly hints that Nixon himself may in 1963 we formed the Citizens' Com
have had a hand in the tragic affair. mittee to Clean Up the Courts. We figIt was with such daims in-minQ rhat ured this was a name that no illiterate,
COQ recently sat down with Skolnick to crooked judge could possibly mistakediscuss these and other matters. The as. to what we were into. \Ve made a
talk lasted almost five hours. At one -s tudy of all the bank cases in the Fed
point the phone rang and the orher end era Court of Appeals covering a ten
went dead. Earlier, Skolnick's one- year period. We found that there were
armed chauffeur mysteriously worded a 27 cases, and 26 of them were won by
message to his boss and sudden(y hur- the banks. We then determined who
ried off. It was Holmes, Chan, and a bit the judges were hearing these cases,
of Bond combined. It w s Sherman and they were bankers. We compiled
Skolnick-muckracker gadfly, fighter information on the state of bribery.
of the never-ending battle for truth, jus- We figured out exactly how you gotice, and the American way in the set- about bribing a judge and things of
ting he likes best. that sort, You don t bribe him in an
The interview w a ~ conducted by Ste- alley, by the way.ven Feldman, Fram;ois Roberr, Nancy COQ: You've branched out from in
Sundquis[,,and Lesley Sussman. vestigating the courts to include politiCOQ: How did you get into this rack---· cal figures. For ·· exariq)le,-you v e
'et? charged that the Chicago Seven were
SKOLNICK: Some 15 or 16 years ago, on government payroll.my folks put some money in trust for SKOLNICK: We traced their money
me, and the people who were sup- to the CIA through foundations. Beposed to administer the trust abscond- sides, they got half a million dollars
ed with the money. From there we for the street riot5 five years ago.
ended up in the courts. In the begin- COQ: Who got it?ning I had a lawyer representing me, SKOLNICK: Oh, Rennie Davis and
and we spent some nine years in the those people. That s why I got arrest
courts trying to get the money back. ed. During the taping of a TV show l
We finally ended up in the State Su- confronted Rennie and he wouldn t
preme Court, and by that point I had answer. Instead, the police showed up
studied enough law so that I was able and took me away.t.o represent myself. Round about COQ: How did you develop your in-
1961, I took up the study oflaw on my formation? Where did you get your
own. My house-at one time had'6000 first in..'Lding that there might be some
law books. I found outgoing through thing ?the courts that there was really no jus- SKOLNICK: Just from putting bitstice. There was more conflict of inter- and pieces together. \Ve compile in-
est. I found that there were other peo- formation on foundations, and after a
ple similarly situated who had been while you get to know which founda-
donein in the courts. I spent years in tions are connected with Central In tel-
the courts, and I couldn't get any sa is- ligence: the J.M. Kaplan Fund in New
faction. The case involving my trust York, the New World Foundation of
fund banged around five times to the Chicago, and others.
U.S. Sup;eme Court . I also became COQ: Can you prove these cbnnec-
interested in doing some public good, tions?and I worked on some public-interest SKOLNICK: Sure, some of them have
cases that didn t involve me personal- come out already. The National Stu-
ly. Sort of what are loosely known as dent Association, the \Vorld Group of
''class actions. As a result of that, Jurists, and others like these were
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identified in February 1967 as CIAfronts. These are the foundations thatsupplied the Chicago Seven with allthe money.COQ: How do you know they got
money?SKOLNICK: The foundations are theonly entities in the country that must
file public tax returns. We compilethose, and we were able to show, forexample, that the Parvin Foundation,headed up by Justice Douglas. was aCIA front.COQ: Do you have any views on \Va
tergate?SKOLNICK: Waterga te to us does notstand for burglarin , it stands for mur
der. Since June -17 1972, several
hundred people have been murdered
because of the b r e a k ~ i n . One of o n ~aid Segretti's associates, for example,was murdered in an alleged accident.There have been other attempts at
murder. \Vatere:ate is a continuationof a decade of Political assassinations.
COQ: You're the latest in a growinglist of people such as Mark Lane, Jim
Garrison, and }vfartha Mitchell who
are ridiculed for their conspiracytheories. How do you feel about it?
S K O I N I C ~ K : Well,) answer it with ajoke. It's a paranoid subject. But the
· way things are going in this country,· iyou're not paranoid, you're crazy.\Ve've found that government com
plicity exists in the ·assassination field,
in the political field, in the peace field.A percentage of the bombing of gov
ernment buildings has been done by
provocateurs. \Veil, how are the tax
payers served when government
agents born b government buildings?A notorious example was in Seattle.
As a result of the unemploymentthere people were getting restless. The
FBI staged an incident to blame on
the radicals-they bombed the post office. But the FBI has got o i l e t ~ t r a i n i n g
h a n g ~ u p s . They re always· bombing
johns. During the Haiphong harbormining protests, they bombed the
women s john in the Pentagon. \Vhat
great radical thing is bombing a john?You find that the czars did the same.
COQ: Did you know that Stalin was amember of the Czar's secret police?
SKOLNICK: Well, if you want to getinto a broad philosophical subject, Ican show you documentation that the
Russian Revolution was financed inNew York through the Rockefellers asan experiment in socialism. How
many people know that Standard Oil
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and Ford Motor never had their facili
ties appropriated when the Bolshevikscame to p o w ~ r ?COQ: You've been on a Rockefeller
thing lately. Is something going on?SKOLNICK: The reason we got into
that is that it helps explain some phenomena in this country that otherwise
are inexplicable. So one of the hipthings we got into was this plane crash.COQ: The one at Midway Airport in
1972, with Mrs. Howard Hunt on it?SKOLNICK: Yes. At first we wanted
to tum back on it because a lot hashappened to me and my friends which
would have made anybody with moresense than us give up.COQ: What do you mean?SKOLNICK: I mean we were fucked
over so much. \Ve should have quit.
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ernment phenomena. My closest
friend spent 40 days in jail without atrial because of this Midway crash.COQ: What was the charge?SKOLNICK: There wasn't any. We
picketed the street for five or six
weeks. We raised an· kinds of shit. I t
was an illegal detention.COQ: How did you get him out?
SKOLNICK: We raised all kinds ofnoise. For the first time in the historyof our group we picketed the streets. Idon t like to. picket. The weather is
bad, you know. And publicly I usuallygo in the wheelchair. I don't want to
wear out the tires on my aluminum
wheelchair.COQ: How does this tie in with Rockefeller?SKOLNICK: We found out .who wasinvolved in the crash. We did a studyof the whole thing. Who had an i n t e r ~est to crash the plane? Who are the
--principal stockholders of United AirLines? Rockefeller.
COQ: What if Mrs. Hunt had bookeda flight on American?
SKOLNICK: You want to go throughthe whole corporate study of UnitedAir Lines? You're forcing me to go
into a little philosophy. Two factions
struggle for control of this country.
The one faction you re all aware of isNixon and his group of whatever youwant to call them. Ni.xon was a Rocke
feller man. When he lost in politics in1962, he supposedly was broke. He
then moved into a 175,000 condominium in Rockefeller's building, the
same building that Rockefeller livesin, and then went on a $200,000-a
year speaking tour. Just to keep him
busy. He then became a partner in a
law firm that does a lot of Rockefellerwork. From 1962 to about 1966, he
was in Rockefeller's pocket. Nixon gotwealthy. What Rockefeller either
wasn't aware of or overlooked was
that Nixon, from the Second World\Var on, was very much in with the
gangsters. Sundance magazine went
into a whole detailed study of Nixon
and the lvfafia from about 1944 on.Nixon -was in·· with -the people who -
-.,vere in the tire recapping rackets dur
ing the Second \Vorld \Var. Nixon at
one time wanted to set up a business in
Havana during the Batista regime.
And there were two people whoe a d ~
ed up the Bay of Pigs, two overseers:
Richard Nixon and E. Howard Hunt.And so Nixon had quite a bit to do
with the Mafia. A lot of the people r e ~cruited for the Bay of Pigs were gangster types. They were not paid inmoney, they were paid in heroin, and
they sold that and raised money withthat. But from 1966 on, Nixon departed from the super-elitists, the intellectuals, the liberals, as they call them,and fell back into his previous back
ground with Rebozo and Lansky.
There are two things that are in theworks now which will force Nixon
either to leave office or leave the coun
try. I attended a conference on political assassination research last Thanks
giving weekend. One of the thingsthat's coming up, which is very hip, is
- that Nixon is going t be implicated inPresident Kennedy s assassination.
There s a link between Dallas andV..'atergate. You ve got to read a bookcalled Farewell America. It's one of
the books that's banned in the United
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States, and it tells about the CIA's involvement with the assassination.
We ve got very few copies left, but I ll
give you one. \Ve obtained some cop
ies by devious means, and we use them
to raise money for our organization. In
other words, you donate ten dollars, Igive vou one free. Bookstores cannot
~ e l l the book. They can't import it, it's
illegal. U.S. Customs doesn't allow it.The book shows that leaders of the as
sassination attempt met the night be
fore, or tv ro days before, and planned
the-last-mi lute things. Nixon and J.
Edgar Hoover two days before Dallas
met at an oil millionaire s ranch, and
on the morning of the assassination
Nixon took flight 82 to New York.
The other major accusation against
Nixon \Vill concern a gambling place
called Paradise Island. The gambling
casino is known to the press, but
they re waiting for a strategic moment.
It's owned by the international gang
ster Meyer Lansky, by Bebe Rebozo,
and by Richard Nixon.
Stuart Publishers. It's about David
Rockefeller. The Rockefellers own,
you might say, the mass media. They
own 17 percent of CBS, they're the
principal stockholders in RCA, which
has as a subsidiary the NBC network,
and they have a major interest inABC. So the three networks are owned
and operated by the Rockefellers.
Then through their various bankinginterests in Chase Manhattan Bankand others, they have a good ·working
interest in every major paper that you
want to talk about: The Nev. York
Times, the Field papers,_etc.COQ: How would you describe Rock-
efeller?SKOLNICK: He s not an American. I
I associate with reporters from all
over the world. Occasionally, they say,
Hey, I ve got this stOI) , I can t move
with it, you got an idea?" In April I~ · ~ 2 e t ~ i l i n g what ~ · a s going to hap- ~ ' · - < 'pen withAgnew. When ard Agnewg1C- f - . - · ~ 1 : \ i , ; , ; w - -put to the wall? On the day that tlie / / . 1Senate Watergate Committee re- ·· • ' ' Icessed for the s u m m ~ r . On that day : / . ~ ~ - - - ~ > ~ ? ;the press started m wlth Agnew. Why , :didn t they start in April? They had all _ .-,.,.-
'
the facts. It s a scenario. It is orches
trated by what is loosely known as the
Rockefeller element, what is known as
the Council on Foreign Relations.
They pushed Agnew out. Agnew is
very much in with Rockefeller. They
threw one of their people out in order.
ibecome depleted he will put his foot
stronger into the other country, Rus
sia. Like some of the other oil million
aires, he has no country. Their country
is where the business is.
to get at Nixon.
COQ: Why?SKOLNICK: In Heritage o Stone, Jim
Garrison says that Gerald Ford is one
of the people the CIA likes the most.Ford sat on the \Varren Commission,
as did Leon Jaworski as special coun
sel to the Commission.
COQ: Did you say that Ford was a
Rockefeller man? ·SKOLNICK: Well, in a way.
was never made a part of the United
States. If he ever goes to his Florida\Vhite House, he s not in the United
States. \Ve can t sen e a summons on
him or do anything.COQ: Presumably Meyer Lanskycould help him get to the Bahamas.
SKOLNICK: Yeah.
COQ: Your credibility, which has
never been very great. ...
SKOLNICK: Credibility \vith whom?
COQ: With a mass of people who follow you. You went before the Mi lway
plane crash hearing and couldn t real
ly baci-: up your charges.SKOLNICK: Now wait a minute.When I showed up with three suitcases
filled with documents, I spread them
out on a big table. Reporters had
heard of this hearing and came from
all over the Western world. I spread
out on the table the entire government
file on the crash which I told the Safety
Board then in session that I had stolen.If they wanted to prosecute me that
would be the time and place. We had
over 1300 pages of exhibits, reports,
photographs, and diagrams, which,
when you analyze them step by step,
show that this was not an accident.
The government proposed to suppress
t_his Jike the Warren Commissiondocuments:-Excepi we headed it off by
stealing it all. Therefore, if your judg
ment about my credibility is based
upon what the media ran, then you
rightfully say that I have no credibil-ity. However, the Associated Press ran
a story that was accurate. They said .
Skolnick today was at a special hear-
. ing of the National Transportation
Safety Board and has presented a
heavily documented case of sabotage.
This wire service story was not run yany major paper in the United States,
even though it was on the A wire. t
ran in a couple of small papers near
Seattle and in a few small Southern
papers. The rest of them took a differ
ent position entirely.COQ: Let's try to make sense of the
United Air Lines crash. What do you
think happened?
COQ: What about Archibald Cox?
SKOLNICK: Cox for years has been
one of Rockefeller's people. Rockefel
ler surrounds NLxon now. He s got
Haig in there, he s got Kissinger, \Vho
used to be a director of the RockefellerFoundation. Nixon is surrounded,
he s not the President anymore. There
is a book that only circulates around in
a limited way called David from Lyle
COQ: So why did Nixon pick him?SKOLNICK: Nixon had nothing to do
with it. He s no longer in c o n t r ~ l . It isof no consequence what Nixon does.
COQ: Why ·doesn't he fight?
SKOLNICK: His options are dimin
ishing. He's getting down to the point
where he's implicated in the Kennedy
assassination. They'll shoot him and
get away ·with it. His options are gone.
COQ: Why doesn't he flee the coun
try?SKOLNICK: I made a study of that.
Do you know where he has his FloridaWhite House? It's not in the United
States. It's in old Spanish territory that
SKOLNICK: Mrs. Hunt carried twomillion dollars of valuables traceable
to CREEP. We have two witnesses to
that. She had what amounted to a
document that was probably one of
the most controversial documents in
recent history. It shows that two weeks
after Jack Kennedy s election in 1960,the incumbent President, Eisenhower,
for reasons which he thought were
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best for the Republic, signed an order
for Kennedy s removal. It was author;:ized by the National Security Counciland to be put immediately in the ar-
chives. Mrs. Hunt was carrying that
document. Now, whether her husband
fabricated that document based on
other historical evidence or whether itis a true document, I don t know. But
four documents that she had with her
on the plane by some miracle floodedaway from that plane, beyond the
crash zone, beyond the FBI, and gotcaught in a.bush. Some little old ladyhad it for several months. This lady isnot in politics, she is not a spy. She
didn t know what to do with it. It final
ly ended up with us.COQ: You have these documents?SKOLNICK: We are in possession of
them. \Ve have written a book about
it, and the book is going to be pub-
Lished, I think, in Europe. I don t think
it can be published in the United
States, because the document so much
we ordered a large pizza. He wanted
everything on it, and it cost $17.95. Sohe tells this joke. That was a good joke.COQ: You ve charged that the plane
had extraordinary amounts of cya
nide. But the official report deniesthat.SKOLNICK: That s much in dispute.By the way, the pilot had an inter
esting name, Captain Whitehouse. Of
the three people in the cockpit, the
pilot is the only one who had cyanide,
and he had 3 9 micrograms per milliliter. You don t breathe after 1.0,you re wiped out, while 3:9-is impossi
ble by inhalation. Only by injection or
ingestion, not by inhalation, can 3 9
milliliter be gotten in your body.Therefore, this pilot was four timesdead, thus indicating foul play. There
is other circumstantial proof to show
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{J /. ·. ~ las says that Nixon who was a member ~ ~ ' } ,of the National Security Council, or- / .
1Iered the demise of Jack Kennedy for : ) ~ . . . . , . _ : __ : : ~ .
what he thought patriotic reasons. ,.;COQ: How do you know that is an of- / ;
fi. l d ? .. ./ .
cia ocument. ____ . ___ .. _ . ______ , + C - ? ~ ; ~ . ~ ~ ~ - - _ _ L
~ ~ ~ \ ~ : : . c : : . ~ e ~ e ~ s ~ ~ w : ; ~ f v ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ : - ~ , ~ } ; . · ~ · w a . ~ i - ' - ling it. I am not with the government. i .
COQ: May we see that doc_ument? : j - ~ ' ~ ' f : P '• <
1
.
SKOLNICK: I won t show 1t to any- J >··· _ Z :. . ..body. It will come out in our book. .• . ., 1
COQ: You see, Sherman, you should · , . ·· .• ' _ jbe open with people. You re playing : d f h ' ' l i e & . t t j i ; j t ~ . * •the same government games that rhe pilot was dead before the crash.you re supposedly against. Fl.ighr regulations provide that, at
SKOLNICK: No, no, you can inter- minimum, the pilot must fly the firstview the witnesses. five minutes and the last five minutes.
COQ: That s not the point. Could we During the last two and a half minutes
see the document? we don t hear from the pilot at all. He
SKOLNICK: I can show you a facsimi- is not flying. The copilot and the sec-le of it. I'll tell you something. Six ond officer are talking.man ths ago, if a reporter came to me, I But our case does not stand or fall
would show him practica)ly every- on the cyanide issue. For example,thing that was in the house. I gave most of the food tables were in the
up that idea after what Rolling Stone serving position. When the plane s
did to me. Their reporter, Terry landing, those food tables have got toSheridan, whom I',.··e known for more be down, and the biggest crash in the
than three years, once ·wrote a story world cannot dislodge those food ta
that was objective about us. I t didn t b es. This indicates that the ground
necessarily praise us but merely told controllers misdirected the plane, so
the truth about our work. So then that the crew thought they were in aTerry Sheridan writes a four-page landing pattern and not about to land.
story in Rolling Stone without refer- The FBI and the Safety Board did not
ring to the documents. He was there tell the public that many died by being
during the two days of hearings. In- crushed against the food tables. What
stead he \Vrote that \Vhile he was at my do they tell you \vhen you re ap
house a week or two after the hearings preaching the airport? Fasten your
seat belts and fold up your food table
right? Well, you could say that on;
.person forgot to fold up his table, but
how could most of the food tables befolded out?No doctors or nurses or ambulances
that responded to the crash emergencywere allowed to go to the plane. They
were all kept in a garage 30 to 40 feet
away. One doctor went toward theplane and a nameless, faceless person,
who the doctor thought was FBI and
who had the area blocked off, said that
everybody \Vas dead and there was no
need for doctors. An ambulance driver
was not allowed to go any closer ei
ther, even though he heard peoplescreaming on the plane. Hundreds of
FBI men had taken the area over and
kept everyone out, including police.
COQ: Why were there so many FBI
agents? ·
SKOLNICK: Of the 12 Warergate
people who were on the plane, onesurvived. She is half out of her mind
by terror because of this crash. Shekeeps moving every month to a differ
ent address. She s got triple locks on
her house. She told one of our staffpeople that when she gets to know usbetter she will tell us about the terriblethlilg.S tha.t \\;entolliiithe-cabillbefofe
the crash. We believe that some of
Mrs. Hunt s luggage was stolen. She
had some under her seat that was sto
len before the -:rash. We believe shewas murdered. Why else did the FBI
not allow the body bags to be exam-
ined and refuse last rites to be admin
istered?
COQ: Wasn t there any autopsy?SKOLNICK: No. The FBI had
stripped all the bodies of all their pos
sessions, all their rings, credit cards,
everything. The press was either not
diligent enough to know about all this
or didn t want to know, because report
ers for all the major papers simply put
their bylines on press releases.COQ: What advice do you have for
young people?SKOLNICK: The United States is the
last place in the world for those whowant to lead a life of freedom. We are
the last place, there is no other place togo. There was a thing called the Amer-
ican Dream, but it has probably been
gone for a hundred years now. I t hasbeen taken over by the Rockefellers,the Marshall Fields, the Camegies,and the rest of them. There is no suchthing as free enterprise. There is no
such thing as justice. O ~
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