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CamomanGuest

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:17 am Post sub ject: rem ove bark o ff a tree log

What is the best way to take the bark off. Do I have to remove the bark offthe log before I turn it or can I just turn it o ff. Is this to h ard on thechisels or not? And can you recomend some good turning books to get so I canlearn better ways and skills. Thanks

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EcnerwalGuest

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:00 am Post sub ject: Re: remove b ark off a tree log

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What is t he best way to take the bark off. Do I have to remove the bark off the log b efore I turn it or can I just turn it off.

You'll often save headaches by removing it before turning. Specifically,

dirt collected in the bark tends to dull your tools faster than cuttingclean wood, and chunks of bark flying off can hurt. Neither means thatyou can't, or even "shouldn't" turn with the bark on, just things to beaware of. Depending when the tree was cut, and how fast you get to it,bark removal methods range from "falls off by itself", through "peelsoff by hand" up to "cut off tediously with a drawknife".

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mac davisGuest

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: remove bark off a tree log

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 15:17:00 -0500, "Camoman" wrote:

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What is the best way to take the bark off. Do I have to remove the bark off the log before I turn it or can I just turn it off. Is this to hard on thechisels or not? And can you recomend some good turning books to get so I canlearn better ways and sk ills. Thanks

I find that it depends a lot on what type of tree it is...

Some have a thin bark that is a PITA to take off before turning, so I leave iton..

Walnut bark is pretty easy to pry off, and saves a lot of cleanup later as itflies all over the shop in large sections if you leave it on..

I've been turning a lot of green pine lately, and I'm using a chisel and rubbermallet to remove as much bark as possible, to avoid the mess and shower ofwater... pine sap is bad enough to deal with, but wet, sticky bark all over thelathe, chisels and shop are not a good thing.. *g*

mac

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robo hippyGuest

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:10 am Post subject: Re: remove bark off a tree log

I use both a hand axe, and a flat bar nail puller with hammer to pryand chip off the bark. If I don't take it off, I make sure to stand outof the line of fire when turning until all of the bark is off.robo hippy

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res055a5Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:53 pm Post subject: Re: remove bark off a tree log

a log cabin builder i know uses a spud (very large chisel about 4 feet long)on pine.i used to use a drawknife if the tree was green, but if the tree has beencut any lengthof time this method really sucks. turning "bark on" can produce some prettypieces,but if you do then expect some out of balance turns and to sharpen toolsmore often.i wonder how sawmills do it? i think they have a machine that gnaws at the
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...grinds it like a coffee grinder.rich"Camoman" wrote in messagenews:%[email protected]...

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What is the best way to take the bark off. Do I have to remove the barkoff the log before I turn it or can I just turn it off. Is this to hard on thechisels or not? And can you re comend some good turning books to get so Icanlearn better ways and sk ills. Thanks

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mac davisGuest

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:36 pm Post subject: Re: remove bark off a tree log

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:53:35 GMT, "res055a5" wrote:

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a log cabin builder i know uses a spud (ve ry large chisel about 4 feet long)on pine.i used to use a drawknife if the tree was green, but if the tree has beencut any lengthof time this method really sucks. turning "bark on" can produce some prettypieces,but if you do then expect some out of balance turns and to sharpen toolsmore often.i wonder how sawmills do it? i think they have a machine that gnaws at thebark ...kind of grinds it like a coffee grinder.rich

I've only toured one saw mill, but it seemed to me that most of the bark wasremoved with high pressure water...It was maybe 20+ years ago, so I could be "mis-remembering".. *g*

mac

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GeorgeGuest Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: remove bark off a tree log

"res055a5" wrote in messagenews:jsJSd.18320$uc.6938@trnddc01...

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i wonder how sawmills do it? i think they have a machine that gnaws atthebark ...kind of grinds it like a coffee grinder.rich
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e ar ers are pretty muc urr mi s. og is rotate into rotating urrs toclear off the bulk of the bark.

My answer? It's one sharpening at most, so what's firm can stay there untilI cut it away. I stay safely out of the line of fire.

Then there's birch, where the flapping mess can whip your knuckles rawbefore you can reach the switch to turn off the lathe.

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WillGuest

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:19 am Post subject: Re: remove bark off a tree log

res055a5 wrote:Quote:

a log cabin builder i know uses a spud (ve ry large chisel about 4 feet long)on pine.i used to use a drawknife if the tree was green, but if the tree has beencut any lengthof time this method really sucks. turning "bark on" can produce some prettypieces,but if you do then expect some out of balance turns and to sharpen toolsmore often.i wonder how sawmills do it? i think they have a machine that gnaws at thebark ...kind of

There is a "de-barker" in sawmills and wood processing plants. Some Ihave seen do indeed "gnaw" at the bark and shred it -- more or less.

The de-barker may be a little expensive for in-home use.

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grinds it like a coffee grinder.

Close enough... :-)

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rich"C amoman" wrote in messagenews:%[email protected]...

What is the best way to take the bark off. Do I have to remove the bark

off

the log before I turn it or can I just turn it off. Is this to hard on thechisels or not? And can you re comend some good turning books to get so I

can

learn better ways and sk ills. Thanks
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--WillOccasional Techno-geek

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res055a5Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:34 pm Post subject: Re: remove bark off a tree log

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I've only toured one saw mill, but it seeme d to me that most of the barkwasremoved with high pressure water...i wonder if the home version pressure washers will remove bark? it wouldbe

cold work sometimes of the year, but what a savings on your back! when iuseda draw knife, it took quite a while to clean a 20 foot log and the work waseasy becausethe log was fresh fallen, but you did have to do a lot of deepbending/kneeling. maybeall that could be avoided by putting the log up on saw horses, etc. on somespeciesyou could probably peel away some of the sapwood with a high pressurewasher.and by wetting down the log you could probably help prevent somechecking...at thelumber mills i've been to they use sprinklers to keep the logs wet or floatthem in ponds.

Do lumber mills cut off logs to standard lengths before sawing them intorough boards?if so, then that might be a source of turning wood.rich

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GeorgeGuest

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:02 pm Post subject: Re: remove bark off a tree log

"res055a5" wrote in messagenews:K83Td.55530$uc.27389@trnddc04...

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Do lumber mills cut off logs to standard lengths before s awing them intorough boards?if so, then that might be a s ource of turning wood.rich

Some do. Especially veneer mills. What you're looking for are the ones with

"BE" spray-painted on the ends. That means "Birdseye!" They're normallyonly 10" long trims. They also have the centers of peeled veneer logs, but
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that's rarely worth more than the firewood price.

At least here the practice of allowing civilians to carry away trims hasfallen prey to liability concerns. The trims have to go through a reseller,which makes them older, more end-checked, and if compared to the price ofcordwood, expensive.

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