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JosephPaiva59thAnnualNYSAPLSConference

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®  Howtoprepareyourselftocollectthedataforyourapplication

®  Howtoapplyonce,correctly,andsuccessfully

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®  Talktopeoplewhohaveappliedrecently®  Talktoyourmentorswhoareprofessionals®  Talktoeducators(ifapplicable)®  Talktoyouremployersandlicensedsurveyorsyouintendtouseasreferences

®  GotoNYSEDwebsite,findlandsurveyingpagesanddownloadEVERYTHINGasPDFs(youcanlaterdecidewhichpartstoprint)

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®  Inwriting®  Onthephone®  Inperson

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®  Readallthepertinentinformationaboutlicensureasalandsurveyor.Thenreadtheapplicationformsfrombeginningtoend

®  Now,read(again)allapplicableformsforyourapplicationfrombeginningtoend

®  http://www.op.nysed.gov/prof/pels/lsurvforms.htm

®  Thenread(again)allotherpertinentinformationaboutlicensureasalandsurveyor

®  http://www.op.nysed.gov/prof/pels/lsurvlic.htm

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®  Nowmakeupalistofallthepertinentinformationyouneedtopullasreferenceinformation,orwhichyouwillneedtosendasoriginals,certifiedcopiesorsimplycopies

®  Makeupalistofallthepeopleyouwilluseasreferences

®  Thiswouldbeagoodtimetoprintformsaswellaspartsofthewebsiteinformationthatyoumaybereferringtofrequentlyandputitinabinder

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®  Nowcontacteachofthesereferences,advisethemthatyouwillbeapplyingforlicensure

®  Politelyasktheemploymentreferencestopleaserespondtotheinformationrequestsquicklyandcompletely.Thisisalsoagoodtimetotellthemthatyouwillbesendingthemwhatyoubelieveyourworkexperiencewaswiththem

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®  Currently$377forlicensureandfirstregistration®  Thisopensafileonyou®  InformationthatcomesinfromNCEES,schools,yourreferences,etc.nowhaveahome

®  Failuretodothiscanresultinlostdocumentation;definitelylongertimespentbyboardofficetoputyourfiletogetherifthedocuments(i.e.NCEESresults)comeinbeforeForm1

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®  Makesurethereferencesarewillingtorespond;besurethatyouWANTthemascharacterreferences!

®  Filloutforms,readingandre-readingtheinstructions.

®  Beclear,conciseandaccurateinyourresponses.Butalso,becomplete!

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®  Whereitispermittedtohaveaddendumsheets,preparethemintypewrittenform,withcleartitles,indicatewhichquestionthepage(s)is/areanaddendumto,andiftheaddendumismorethanonepage,repeattheaddendumtitleontopprovideconsecutivepagenumbersforeachaddendum,restartingwith“page1”witheachnewaddendum.

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®  Asyoufillouttheapp,andyouhaveattachments,keepalogoftheattachmentsandforms,andmakesuretheyareintheorderyouwillplacethedocumentswhenyouassembleyourpacketforsubmission

®  Beaccurate.Donotstretchthetruth.®  Useadictionarytomakesureyouspellwordscorrectly

®  Beawareofyourgrammar.Havesomeoneyoutrustrevieweverythingyouwriteontheapplication.Bepreparedtoamend!

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®  ITISLIKELYYOUAREJUDGEDONFITNESSTOBEANAPPLICANTONHOWYOUFILLEDOUTTHEAPPASWELLASTHECONTENTSOFTHEAPPANDREQUIREDDOCUMENTS

®  Takeplentyoftimetogettheappfilledout®  Donotrushtomeetadeadline;forearmedisforewarned

®  Bepatient

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®  Neatnesscounts!®  Lookatyourapp.Doesitlook(almost)aspristineaswhenyouprinteditout?

®  Ifnot,ado-overwouldbeappropriate®  Definitelyno

  Coffeestains  Tears(asinrips)whetherrepairedornot  Creases,dog-earedcondition  Non-uniformtext(fontstyles/typefaces)  etc

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®  Whileyourappisprocessingstartreviewingtheinformationyouneedtoknowfortheexams.

®  Thisisagoodtimetostartbuildingyourreferencelibrary,andtakinglandsurveyexamreviewcourses,bothfortheNCEESpartaswellasthestatespecificpart

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®  Boardevaluatesacceptableexperiencebasedoncriteriaspecifiedinregs.Mustinclude:  50percentoftherequiredexperiencespentinchargeofworkrelatedtopropertyconveyanceand/orboundarylinedetermination;

  Demonstratedexperienceinthetechnicalfieldaspectsoftheprofession;

  Demonstratedexperienceinchargeoftheofficeaspectsoftheprofession;

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  demonstratedexperienceinlegalaspectsoftheprofession;

  demonstrateadequatedirectsupervisionofapplicant’sexperiencebyalicensedlandsurveyor;and

  atleast2yearsofexperienceworkingonprojectsrequiringaknowledgeanduseofsurveyingcodesandpracticesutilizedintheU.S.

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®  …includefull&currentknowledgeofallsurveyingequipment;measurementsofspace,water,land&structurestodetermineboundaries,areas,elevations,alignments&locations;evaluation&analysisoffielddata,appropriateresearchofpublic&privatelandrecords,preparationofclientservicecontracts&finalsurveyingreports,maintenanceofsurveyrecords&supervisionoffieldandofficepersonnel,allinaccordancewithlegalregulations&statutes&standardsofprofessionalpractice

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  "Stake-out"and"lineandgrade"surveysdonotprovideadequatetraininginthemselves.However,whensuchsurveys,including"right-of-way"surveys,areperformedunderthesupervision&directionofalicensedlandsurveyor,theBoardmay,atitsdiscretion,grantcreditfortheworktowardpartialfulfillmentoftheexperiencerequirement

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®  ExperiencetobeevaluatedmustbereportedchronologicallyonForm4&describedonForm4A.Experiencedescriptionsmustincludespecificdutiespersonallyperformed,complexityofthework,andmakecleartheextentoftheapplicant’sresponsibilityforthework

®  Listexperienceincomprehensive,detailed&explicitmanner.Onlyexperiencecompletedbythedateoftheappissigned&submittedonforms4and4Awillbeconsidered.Qualityofexperience,notmerelycalendartime,willbeevaluated.Timeclaimedontheformscannotexceedactualcalendartime.

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®  ThedeadlinesforsubmittingaNYSlicensureapplicationfortheNYStateSpecificexamare:

®  FSandPSexamsarenowcomputer-basedtesting(CBT)

®  TheycanbetakenatPearsonVUEtestcentersthroughouttheyear,anddonothavetobetakeninNY

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ExamMonthDeadlineforLicensureApps April Nov.1ofpreviousyear

October June1ofsameyear

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1.  Beginatthebeginning:NewYorkStateOfficeoftheProfessions:http://www.op.nysed.gov/

2.  Professionspage:http://www.op.nysed.gov/prof/

3.  LandSurveyingpage:http://www.op.nysed.gov/prof/pels/  Note:abovepageisthesamepageasyougetwhenyouclickon“Engineering”

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5.  LefthandcolumnofLandSurveyingpage:Licenserequirements/LandSurveying:http://www.op.nysed.gov/prof/pels/lsurvlic.htm

6.  LefthandcolumnofLandSurveyingpage:ApplicationForms/LandSurveying:http://www.op.nysed.gov/prof/pels/lsurvforms.htm

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®  Personinresponsiblechargewasnotactuallylicensed[applicantonlygotcreditfortheworkdonewhiletheendorserwasactuallylicensed]

®  AnappsentbackwithcommentnotenoughexperiencedoingworkwithGPS[knowledgeofallsurveyingequipment]

®  Getcertifiedasaninternlandsurveyor?Why?How?

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®  Tobeeligibleforanidentificationcardasan"InternLandSurveyor,"youmust:  beofgoodmoralcharacter;  UnitedStatescitizenorqualifiedalien;  havegraduatedfromanABETaccreditedbaccalaureatedegreeprograminsurveying;and

  passedPart1–NCEESFundamentalsofSurveying(FS)ofthelicensingexamination.

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®  ToapplysubmitForm1with$70fee®  SendForm2-CertificationofProfessionalEducationtoschoolsotheymaysubmitverificationofyourABETaccreditedSurveyingB.S.directlytoBoard

®  NOTE:forlicensingandinternlandsurveyorstatuseducationverification,transcriptsmaynowbesentbyacademicinstitutionsine-form

®  Whetherpaperore-form,mustbesentdirectlytoboard,notapplicant

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®  Calculatorpolicyhasbeenchangedfor2017®  NewCasiocalculatoradded®  http://ncees.org/2017-calculator-list-approved-new-model-added/

®  Casio:allfx-115andfx-991models®  HP:33s,35s®  TI:allTI-30XandTI-36Xmodels

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