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(CNN)-- Monday's announcement by Malaysia's Prime Minister
acknowledgingthat missing Flight 370 ended in the southernIndianOceanopens the door to a big question: How did new number
crunching confirm the Boeing 777's path?
Now we know for sure "there's no way it went north," said Inmarsat
Senior Vice President Chris McLaughlin.
Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said Monday that the p lanewas last tracked over the middle of the Indian Ocean, west of Perth,
Australia. Malaysian Airlines has informed passengers' relatives that"all lives are lost," a relative to ld CNN.
Monday's announcement brings new questions about the mystery
that has captivated the planet for more than two weeks. It also
provoked a call that all airliners be constantly tracked.
The mathematics-based process used by Inmarsat andthe UK's Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) to
reveal the definitive path was described by McLaughlin as"groundbreaking."
"We've done something new," he said.
Here's how the process works in a nutshell: Inmarsatofficials and engineers were able to determine whether
the plane was flying away or toward the satellite's locationby expansion or compression of the satellite's signal.
What does expansion or compression mean? You may
have heard about something called the Doppler effect.
"If you sit at a train station and you listen to the train
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How 'groundbreaking' number crunchingfound path of Flight 370By Thom Patterson, CNNMarch 25, 2014 -- Updated 1258 GMT (2058 HKT)
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STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Satellite experts use"groundbreaking" process totrack Flight 370's final hours
The Malaysia Airlines Boeing777's last position was "in themiddle of the Indian Ocean, w estof Perth"
Satellite official: Hopefully, thisw ill trigger a "mandate that allaircraft s hould be constantlytracked"
One thing's missing from theofficial version of w hathappened to Malaysia AirlinesFlight 370, say some expertsand family members: hardevidence.
Where's the proof?March 25, 2014 -- Updated 1223 GMT (2023 HKT)
More than 300 relatives andfriends of missing Flight MH370passengers marched to theMalaysian Embassy in Beijing toexpress their anger andfrustration.
Angry families march on Malaysian
EmbassyMarch 25, 2014 -- Updated 1129 GMT (1929 HKT)
Malaysia Airlines off icials saythey are praying for thepassengers and crew of Flight370.
Airline: 'We extend our prayers'March 25, 2014 -- Updated 0609 GMT (1409 HKT)
Erin Burnett talks to Heidi Snowabout the Flight 370passengers' relatives w how ere told that their loved-onesdied.
MH370 families still holding out hopeMarch 25, 2014 -- Updated 0011 GMT (0811 HKT)
The deep sea robot search for 370March 25, 2014 -- Updated 0010 GMT (0810 HKT)
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whistle -- the pitch of the whistle changes as it moves
past. That's exactly what we have," explained CNN
Meteorologist Chad Myers,who has studied Dopplertechnology. "It's the Doppler effect that they're using on
this ping or handshake back from the airplane. They knowby nanoseconds whether that signal was compressed a
little -- or expanded -- by whether the plane was movingcloser or away from 64.5 degrees -- which is the latitude
of the orbiting satellite."
Each ping was analyzed for its direction of travel, Myers
said. The new calculations, McLaughlin said, underwent apeer review process with space agency experts and
contributions by Boeing.
It's possible to use this analysis to determine morespecifically the area where the plane went down, Myers said. "Using
trigonometry, engineers are capable of finding angles of flight."
What could wreckage tell us about Flight 370's fate?
No surprise
Experts said they weren't surprised by the news that the flight
traveled along the southern track -- one of two possible pathsrevealed by satellite data last week. The possible northern track
toward Pakistan would have been heavily monitored by radar.Pakistan had said it found no evidence of Flight 370 on its radar
systems.
"It was very difficult to believe that no watch captain"
along the possible northern path "would've seen aburning or distressed aircraft in the sky during the course
of their watch," said McLaughlin.
Is the more pinpointed flight path now focused enough toincrease the chances of finding wreckage from the plane?
If the flight definitely ended far from land, does thatsupport the theory that the plane was not hijacked? It's
just one question of many that investigators likely will bepondering in the coming days.
Hours before the Prime Minister's announcement,
Australian officials said they had spot ted two objects inthe southern Indian Ocean that could be related to the
flight, which has been missing since March 8.
One object is "a gray or green circular object," and the
other is "an orange rectangular object," the AustralianMaritime Safety Authority said.
"This is obviously a major tragedy," McLaughlin said. "The
only thing you can hope is that from this, just as the Titanic resultedin (new safety legislation), that from this, there will be a mandate
that all aircraft should be constantly tracked."
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How did new numbercrunching conf irm the Boeing777's path?
Number crunching found plane's pathMarch 25, 2014 -- Updated 1258 GMT (2058 HKT)
Since the disappearance ofAmelia Earhart, no aviationsearch has garnered moreattention than the loss ofMalaysia Airlines Flight 370.
Pilot: This could have downed flightMarch 25, 2014 -- Updated 1246 GMT (2046 HKT)
Before a news c onference,relatives of passengerslearned the tragic new s via atext f rom the airline.
'They have told us all lives are lost'March 25, 2014 -- Updated 0357 GMT (1157 HKT)
Amid the void of information ontheir fates, it seems at timesthat the passengers and crewof MH370 have been reducedto a number.
Who were the passengers?March 25, 2014 -- Updated 0247 GMT (1047 HKT)
A painting of his, entitled"Outlook" is part of National ArtMuseum of China collection, atestament to the 35-year old'sskill.
The Uyghur painter on Flight 370March 25, 2014 -- Updated 1311 GMT (2111 HKT)
Authorities released newdetails that paint a diff erentpicture of w hat may havehappened in the plane'scockpit.
Altitude dropped after sharp turnMarch 24, 2014 -- Updated 0225 GMT (1025 HKT)
Any debris found could giveinvestigators some clues as tow hat happened to the jetliner.
What could wreckage tell us?March 24, 2014 -- Updated 1733 GMT (0133 HKT)
A closer look at the technologyand details of the oceansearch f or missing Malaysia
Airlines Flight 370.
How they're searching for debrisMarch 25, 2014 -- Updated 1208 GMT (2008 HKT)
Somewhere in the vast IndianOcean, a tiny aluminum cylindermay be emitting a steady ping.
World listens for slowly fading pingsMarch 23, 2014 -- Updated 1350 GMT (2150 HKT)
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Its not news that they're grieving, anyone would be. Plenty of other aspects of this
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the global attention it deserved. STOP IT ALREADY
Stevenurke
OK HM. I will go with your version. Butpromise johnny and everyone
on this site that god forbid something like this happens to a loved one
of yours and you will not be one bit upset about your picture be
plastered while grieving on any site or magazine cover. Be very
careful what you ask for or say, as you may get your wish and not be
happy with it.
Del
I have often thought that motorcycle crashes, and similar
things should be shown in every bit of gory detail. The purpose
would to let people know what actually happens, rather than
waiting for it to happen to them or their loved ones or friends. It
would seem better to see some of these gory details, if it
would prevent death and injury going forward.
desurt trippur
Sure, while we're at it, show all of the car crashes,
pedestrians hit by cars, people who fell off cliffs and policeshootings. Throw in a few drunk driving victims and drowning
victims for good measure. Maybe then people will just stay in
their houses all their lives and no one will get hurt or killed.
Greg C
There are web sites that show these gory details of accidents.
Believe me they will make you sick.
Herenamaste
If anything I think CNN is keeping this story relevant versus
other media organizations. I watched Andersen Cooper lastnight and out of respect for the victims families he didn't show
their reactions. You flip on Fox News and you have Bill O'Reilly
telling everyone he was correct on his assertion of the flight
crashing due to pilot intentions, and he immediately has that
blabber mouth Bernie Goldberg disenfranchising the
mainstream media...it's just one big broken record on that
network.
Anthony.Davis.
Groundbreaking math?
Welp... I suppose they are Asians and all...
CASE CLOSED
Mark
"groundbreaking" is quite a stretch in the description of how
they determined the location.
Sam Harris
Using math to extrapolate Doppler shift measurements on
pings to a satellite to provide a track for the aircraft has not
been done before and may have other applications. QED
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groundbreaking.
Don't understand your Asian comment but the case is by no
means closed for everybody.
anarcdisquislvr
Fact #6: BREAKING NEWS. News Summary of what's
happened over the last 18 days.
The plane flew high, the plane flew low.
The captain went where nobody knows
The media is left to presuppose
The plane flew to the left, and then to the right
It vanished out of everyone's sight
Lithium batteries explode like dynamite.
The plane flew low, the plane flew high
It decompressed and the passengers died.
Conspiracies soar that the government lied!
It flew over land and flew over ocean
It turned and turned in mysterious motion
"Abducted by aliens" is a cult devotion
Akbar Javid
Why so much doom and goom.
August First
It's news, not a picnic.
NW323KLMT
It is very sad... As I have said about this in the past, I knew itwas an accident.. many people speculated about the terrorist
involvement including Fox News. I think they should be fired for
the spreading false news....
Al Jazeera TV never indicated terrorist plot.
did you guys have seen last week Sean Hannity interviewing a
guy and he had indicated 100 % of terrorist activity....Both
should be fired....
My heart felt condolences to those who lost their loved ones...
It is a common sense. The Plane had lithium batteries in
cargo.. And also any mechanical or electric fault would have
shut down the transponders quickly and there by instead of
going forward it had turn into opposite direction and ran out of
fuel and fell into Indian ocean...
Sam Harris
Astonishing. Glad we now have the answer, thank you. Have
you told the FAA? They might give you a prize.
Jericho Cain
We don't yet know it was an accident. It was absurdly off
course. Why would it fly all the way out into the middle of
nowhere and crash if it were just an accident? It made 2-3
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course corrections to get where it wound up.
68gto
Where it ended up is apparently the most remote location
without having been identified that it could possibly go out of
an entire 360 degrees. Coincidence? or someone that
intended to not have the plane found, for reasons yet to be
determined.
Ben CNN
You know, of course, that despite the "please" of RMaddow,
MSNBC has made statements like "it is landed in some
jungle" as recently as this AM??? Of course you do...because
you are an open minded and fair person...
collhi
We don't know that foul play wasn't involved. So, it's
hypocritical for you to call for firings over speculations when
you don't even know whether your own speculation is correct.
Guest
What's sad is your pro_Gangrape policies
T5309
It's your choice to look, but we should always have a choice
and when the day comes to where we don't have the option to
look or read about what we want is a turning point in our
culture. I personally would rather have the access to it if I'd
like. Don't look, but please, don't make it hidden to everyone.
John Ross So what the hell does that have to do with a plane crash?
Show the gory details so people will think twice about flying on
planes. Your post is stupid and it makes no sense.
Del
Showing people the gory things that happen in accidents was
brought up. I have seen victims of almost every accident you
could imagine. If people were shown some of these things, it
might help some of them to avoid risky behavior. Is there a
rigid set of rules for commenting on these articles that we
must all obey?
djd
Has nothing to do with showing the victim's families over and
over and over again. The victim's families did not behave in a
risky manner.
Dan
No but think a little deeper and showing the victims grieve
might make someone avoid risky behavior if they get a
glimpse on what their family would be going thru
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Atrahasis
My guess is that death is seldom pretty. And for some of us
"risky behavior" makes us feel truly alive. We're all going to
die. It's only the time spent before we meet the Reaper that
really matters.
malcolm
If you have to think twice about flying, why not?
snaffew
I agree, also show graphic pictures of heart attacks and open
bypass surgery from eating foods rich in fats/ processed
foods and sugars. Show stroke victims who suffer from
hypertension due to drinking coffee, and also show colon and
rectal cancer along with graphic images of rectal hemorrhoids
from poor eating habits. Show tenacious reporters being
stabbed to death and suicides of lonely people...we want t see
it all!
JoshS
Coffee doesn't cause anything more than transienthypertension, if that. It does, however, have several beneficial
health effects, including a modest cancer-protective effect.
Facts, man. Facts.
Del
If young inexperienced "immortal" people can be dissuaded
from risky behavior by public displays and discussion is that
pointless ? Information on all manner of things that can cause
us problems should also be available in libraries, on the
internet, etc.; so if one wishes to seek out such things, one
can find them. Warning people that if they drink a fifth of
bourbon over a one hour period or less, they will die seemsworthwhile. Every year in some U.S. college such a death
occurs, and I don't think it happens to someone who knows it
will mean certain death. Your suggestions made to bolster
your argument go to rather irrational extremes.
desertvoice
This is a very thoughtful comment. Early on, all children
should be taught in school about the value of life and its
precariousness. The dangers of drinkig, in particular, should
be exemplified with examples of how mind loses its
awareness after a few drinks! I racall how I rolled over in
Alaska, after emptying a quart of vodka. I continued my drivingimmediately, forgetting fo a second that the road was covered
with ice sprinkled with rain, a deadly combination. Or the
Irishman, James Nolan, his example also comes to mind. He
had been drinking in a Polish bar, in Bydgoszcz, Poland, a
year or so ago. After heavy drinking, he felt "immortal." Then
he walked outside to take some fresh air. Ended dead in the
nearby river. True story. May he rest in peace! Incidentally, we
do need another Prohibition in view that in the 1920's we only
had a few Ford T's on the highways. Now we have 50, 000 car
accident deaths each year! Let's disregard the "experts" and
try another Prohibition!
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barb'sbarb
Not necessarily. Some folks think nothing will ever happen to
them.
SillyWill
I've got life insurance... so I won't die.. ;-)
Timmay
Your payment this month was late. You might want to rethink
that. lol
Del
Is it useless then to inform anyone?
Kaedwon
Gory details? What details? We know little more about what
happened to this plane than we did two weeks ago. It's not
narrowing things down much to say it's somewhere in the
Indian Ocean. In the absence of data, CNN goes wall to wall
with speculation, conjecture and wild a** guesses. If, as
seems increasingly likely, nothing of the plane is ever found,
you can bet this will join the ranks of 9/11 truther conspiracies.
Tatts
Back in the '60s the state of Connecticut displayed crashed
cars near the site of their accident (along side the highway) as
a reminder to other drivers.
Going Foul
all you need is an internet connection to see those things.
oldguy68
When I was in the Air Force, before every holiday they would
show such films (attendance mandatory). They thought it
would influence people to drive more safely. I have no idea
whether it accomplished its purpose.
Timmay
Except that there are many people in the world who never
have any desire or means to ride a motorcycle, but hey lets
make them look at bloody gory crash scenes just in case...Fail
T CP
Never works.
uppertal
News media used to show the gory results of war.
Unfortunately, the powers that be had that stopped after
Vietnam. Nice and sanitized now, for our viewing pleasure.
GC
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yes, it "might dispel" the thwarting emotions of the affected.
Stevenurke
I understand and agree. Just walk into any drivers training
place and you will see tons of pictures of cars of drunk drivers
and red light runners that maimed or killed an innocent person
or people. But not sure I want to see the grieving parents or
spouse. It is too Jerry Springer for me.
Del
Jerry Springer is too Jerry Springer for me. ;-) Yeah, I think
most of the grieving people is put out by the media (without
their really knowing if that increases circulation all that much),
and there is less demand from the public.
HM
Fair point, and, of course, this is the essence of this debate. I
would not have made the post unless I was more than willing
to have people see my distraught behaviour in exchange for
motivating some to put resources behind finding answers
about my loved ones for me. So, I personally have no doublestandard on this, although I can perfectly understand how
some people would be most uncomfortable about it.
Whichever way one looks at this, there's no doubt in my mind
that some of these scenes being in the media helped to focus
important minds on the search that may not otherwise have
been bothered.
Fly Guy in SD
What is your basis for the claim that all the countries who
have put resources into this search would have committed
fewer resources if CNN had not shown pictures of grieving
relatives every day? That seems unsupportable on its face,and I have heard no one else make that claim, but maybe
you're aware of some evidence that I haven't seen?
I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I have not come to
CNN hoping to see pictures of grieving relatives. I have come
only for information on the investigation. I would strongly prefer
that all news outlets give the families of the victims their
privacy and dignity. They are under terrible emotional stress
and it's not only rude but just plain mean and
uncompassionate to splash photos and videos of them having
emotional meltdowns on the news. That's not news; that's
exploitation.
Jon
Part of what makes the story IS the pictures and stories of the
grieving families. It helps those of us who are reading the
stories connect to the story. That's what news is/does. This
isn't anything new.
Fly Guy in SD
Sounds kind of sadistic to me.
A week or so ago, CNN had a piece called something like
"Who are the passengers on MH370?" in which they profiled
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Splashing pictures of people in the throes of abject grief
across the Internet is not. It bears not the slightest shred of
human decency.
cuspernicus
If you need imagery to "connect" to this kind of story then i
think that speaks volumes.
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