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Health andConsumers
NAS Network feedback on reference document
"Objectives and Indicators"
MANCP Network meetingFVO, Grange
25-26 November 2014
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Health andConsumers
In plenary, members analysed the document "Objectives and Indicators", Version 1, Revision 5 of 15/07/2014Replied to three questions:1.Is the document useful for NAS auditors?2.Is the approach followed for the structure of the document adequate?3.What can be improved?
NAS Network meeting of 24-25/09/2014
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Health andConsumers
• Auditors don’t write the MANCP but if people who write the MANCP follow the reference document then it will be more easily audited.
• Yes, it is useful but if it is to be used in an audit context it needs an annex with specific examples (e.g. validation of indicators).
• Provides important background information on “objectives and indicators” in the MANCP context.
Is the document useful for NAS auditors?
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Health andConsumers
• Helps an auditor understand the auditees’ intention and direction of their control systems and how they define objectives and indicators (common terminology), but is not a tool for audit performance.
• Encourages MS to have objectives and indicators and is a good reference for CAs that have to design systems.
• Not relevant for audits directly but allows understanding of how indicators are developed/created.
Is the document useful for NAS auditors?
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Health andConsumers
• Outcome of the use of the reference document is useful for the auditors (useful for improving the MANCP).
• More useful for management level, but still useful for auditors as a background.
• It needs to be completed with national audit instructions and translated into MS languages.
Is the document useful for NAS auditors?
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Health andConsumers
• In general yes. The parts “purpose and use” and “characteristics” (although the acronym RACER was new for some participants) are useful. The part “principles” is confusing.
• Does the scope include “fraud” too? (Example on Annex 1.2).
• More effective to have objectives and indicators together in one reference document.
Is the approach followed for the structure of the document adequate?
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Health andConsumers
• Impact of indicators in terms of behaviour/risk management needs to be highlighted.
• Needs to be included in the wider context of the purpose of the MANCP.
• Structure and logics are adequate but the diagrams need more explanations (for instance diagram 2 and its legend).
Is the approach followed for the structure of the document adequate?
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Health andConsumers
• Strategic objectives cannot be SMART. On the other hand, operational objectives are easier to fit in the SMART characteristics. A hierarchy of objectives should be defined, where indicators are linked specifically with operational objectives.
• Part “Types and Examples” could be clearer and include more examples.
• A procedure for acceptance of objectives and indicators is missing (top-down, down-up).
• Better examples linked with diagram 2.
What can be improved?
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Health andConsumers
• More diverse examples (quantitative and qualitative indicators).
• In the definition of indicators change “tool” to “feature”.
• Title of the document doesn’t reflect content.• Reference to “Effectiveness” reference document –
link the two documents.• Examples in annexes could be further developed
(bearing in mind that examples for each sector could undermine a final agreement on the reference document).
What can be improved?
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Health andConsumers
• Keep the categorisation of indicators in the definitions - “output”, “outcome” and “impact” indicators.
• Clarify the part “principles”.• Include a methodology to build a good indicator (use
a diagram?)• Change title of the document – “Principles for
objectives and indicators and good practice”.• Add examples of key indicators.• Prescriptive indicators – list of indicators that could be
used by all MS?
What can be improved?
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Health andConsumers
Thank you!
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