Hari Kondabolu interviewed by Nia King

8/10/2019 Hari Kondabolu interviewed by Nia King

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FAPH=Nbkak was iy drlai sfbw. Chel, Clttlriak waskt lvlk hk tfl rlaci bg pbssh`hchty. H mustdhdkt sll tfat fapplkhk , sb ht waskt chel ht was a drlai !bil trul. Ht waskt lvlk a drlai. Histhcc sfb!eld `y ht. "bkak was a drlai !bil trul. As a ehd, tfat was tfl sfbw, tfat akd #$Cwlrl tfl sfbws tfat il akd iy grhlkds wbucd tace a`but, sb tb `l bk Nbkak was a `h dlac. Hiprbud bg tfat slt, ùt chel, H was sh!e akd kasaccy akd ht waskt iy `lst plrgbriak!l. H cbvl tfbsl

mbels ùt H dhdkt db tfli musth!l.

Hi prbud bg tfhs sl!bkd slt. H glct chel H was flactfy akd H was strbk . H glct chel agtlr dbhkClttlriak, tbb, H glct chel ibrl !bkghdlkt. H must dhd wfat H waktld tb db. #b ylaf Hi prbud bg tfatslt `l!ausl hts must chel, tfhs hs wfat H db, tfhs hs tfl rak l bg stugg H db akd tfhs hs fbw H db ht.

$HA= %laf. %buvl acsb llk bk Jihdkhoft a !bupcl thils.

FAPH= &cau fhk ' %laf(

$HA= )fh!f hs bkl bg iy gavbrhtl sfbws. Akd "frhs Fardwh!es ghkaccy startld prbkbuk!hk yburkail rh ft( &cau fhk '

FAPH= Ph ft, rh ft. $b, hts gukky. Ht usuaccy taels tfli * tfl bkcy plrsbk wfb lvlr bt ht rh ft tflghrst thil was +bfk chvlr. -ay`l hts `l!ausl fls rhthsf akd iay`l hts sbiltfhk a`but fhsa!!lkt tfat ghts br iaels ht wbre, br fl must hktuhthvlcy lts ht, ùt hts chel, H rlili`lr tfl ghrstthil H dhd Mbfk Bchvlrs UKlw XbreY ^takd-\p ^fbw . Ht was, tfat was part bg tfl sfb!e was dbhka sfbw whtf ak audhlk!l tfat `h akd l/!htld, was :Fl bt iy kail rh ft( Fl dblskt favl tbrl*tael tfat(1

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= #b ylaf, Jihdkhoft s rlaccy guk. H cbvl ht acsb `l!ausl H must lt tb `l a !bildhak. H dbktekbw fbw tb l/pcahk ht. H must lt tb wrhtl mbels. g !bursl H cbvl iy stakdup akd H cbvl wfat H dbakd H put sb iu!f tfbu ft hktb lvlrytfhk H put but akd tfl wbrdhk s sb dlch`lratl akd whtfJihdkhoft , H must lt tb wrhtl mbels. H must lt tb wrhtl mbels. Akd H tfhke plbpcl gbr lt tfat Hi a*

$HA= )flk ybu say :wrhtl mbels1 db ybu ilak ybu prlparl tfli `lgbrlfakd0

FAPH= %laf.

$HA= eay.

FAPH= f ylaf. %laf, tfl sfbws kbt !bipcltlcy hiprbvhsld.

$HA= Ht dbls applar tfat way. &cau fhk '

FAPH= %ls, ylaf. ut H tfhke plbpcl ekbw tflrls ldhthk `l!ausl acc bg a suddlk H favl >44pbhkts, acc bg a suddlk H favl


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$HA= f kb, hts !clar tfat tflrls ldhthk . Hts kbt kl!lssarhcy !clar tfat tfl mbels arl prl*prlparld.

FAPH= %laf. H ilak, sbil bg tfli arlkt, `l!ausl sbil bg tfli ybu must ghkd a ibilkt akd

ybu b whtf ht, ùt ylaf hts a cbt bg, hts hktlksl wrhthk rh ft `lgbrl. #b rlaccy hts as !cbsl tbhiprbvhshk as ybu !ak ? lt6, `l!ausl ybu sthcc favl tb prbdu!l a 8uachty sfbw.

$HA= Fbw iu!f thil db ybu favl tb prlparl gbr tfat0

FAPH= Chel ak fbur, clss. Akd ybu àsh!accy, ybu lt tfl tbph!s akd ybu wrhtl, ybu wrhtl, ybuwrhtl. Chkdy )lst, H ekbw, avl il a !bupcl bg chkls `lgbrl H wlkt up tflrl. Flr ghak! wfbs iywrhthk partklr, Afailgucl cub, avl il a glw tfhk s. -y `rbtflr tfrlw hk a !bupcl bg tfhk s. Hwrbtl a ùk!f * sb hts àsh!accy chel ybu slt up a ihkh wrhthk tlai akd ybu must try tb !bil upwhtf sbiltfhk akd at tfl lkd bg tfl day iay`l ybu usl bkl bg tflhrs akd ibst bg ht lkds up`lhk yburs `l!ausl at tfl lkd bg tfl day ybu ekbw ybur vbh!l `lttlr, ùt ht was !bbc. 5flrlwas bkl tfat was Chkdys. Ht was :#bup, br -arhb rbtflrs01 Akd tfats, :3cdlrcy 9hdlb ;ails1was tfl kail bg tfl tfhk . Akd tfat was Chkdys chkl. Hts rlaccy guk. #b hts chel partcy hiprbvhsld,partcy wrhttlk, partcy yburl hk tfl ibilkt, akd yburl tryhk tb lt as iu!f dbkl as pbssh`cl.%bu lt tb `l a !bildhak pcayhk a ail akd H gllc chel, ybucc sll, wflk H db iy sfbws, H cbvliy audhlk!ls akd H tfhke tfat tflrl arl !lrtahk l/pl!tathbks tfat !bil whtf tfat, wfh!f Hukdlrstakd akd li`ra!l, ybu ekbw, akd ht clts il `l a trulr vlrshbk bg iyslcg, ùt tfhs hs guk asa !bildhak wfb chels tb must wrhtl mbels. H tfhke plbpcl gbr lt Hi a !bildhak. 5fly appcy btflrca`lcs bk il, akd Hi chel, :Hi a !bildhak akd a mbel*wrhtlr.1 5fats, sbil plbpcl whcc saytfhk s chel, ybu ekbw, :%burl ibrl tfak a !bildhak tb il.1 Akd H apprl!hatl tfat, ùt2

$HA= 5fats ehkd bg hksucthk .

FAPH= Ht hs hksucthk ( Ht taels away tfl vacul bg !bildy akd tfl fhstbry bg !bildy, chel, Ph!fardJrybr !ail grbi, tfhs hs fhs tradhthbk. 5fhs hs "archks tradhthbk. 5flrls a cbt bg plbpcl wfb arl apart bg tfhs tradhthbk. 5flrl arl plbpcl wfb favl !fak ld Ailrh!ak fhstbry, akd bur `h !ucturac!bktrhùtbrs akd favl spbelk gbr plbpcl bg !bcbr akd tfl bpprlssld, akd, ghrst bg acc, tfly splaegbr tflislcvls, ùt rlgcl!t vbh!ls tfat dbkt lt flard akd tfats tfrbu f !bildy, tfats tfrbu fstakd*up. H fatl tfat, wflk plbpcl ihkhih l wfat wl db. H acsb fatl tfl ca`lcs bg chel, a!thvhst!bildhak br sb!hac musth!l !bildhak `l!ausl hts chel, akd Hvl sahd tfhs `lgbrl, :Hi a !bildhakakd tfl sl!bkd wl start putthk tfbsl ca`lcs bk il, ybuvl taelk il but bg tfl iahkstrlai hksbil way.1

)lcc ybu !bucd say, :)lcc tfats bbd. 5fl iahkstrlais awguc.1 Akd Hi chel, :%bu tfhke sb!hac musth!l sfbucdkt `l hk tfl iahkstrlai0 %bu lchlvl tfat ybur !bk!lpts akd ybur hdlas arl gbrybu akd ybur grhlkds tb tace a`but hk aecakd01

$HA= &cau fhk '


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FAPH= :)fat arl ybu tacehk a`but0 5fats kbt wfat tfhs hs a`but. 5fhs hs a`but tryhk tb rla!f asiaky plbpcl as pbssh`cl `l!ausl tflsl !bk!lpts arl iahkstrlai !bk!lpts.1 Chel, wflk ybusay tfl wbrd :a!thvhst,1 Hi surl tflrls a car l plr!lkta l bg tfl Ailrh!ak iahkstrlai tfatsfuts bgg hiildhatlcy, chel, :@ f, glihkhsts. @ f.1

$bt tb say tfat tflrls akytfhk wrbk whtf tfbsl wbrds akd tfly dbkt favl hk!rldh`cl fhstbrhlstfat !bil whtf tfli, ùt hg ybu say tfl sail tfhk whtf btflr cak ua l, yburl rla!fhk plbpclchel,

:%laf, ylaf tfhs a!thvhst stugg hs dhs usthk , rh ft0 ut fbw a`but chel, gahr wa ls akd ybur ehdsfavhk l8uac bppbrtukhthls akd musth!l01:%laf, ylaf, ylaf. +usth!l, wfat db ybu ilak `y musth!l01: f H must ilak ybu dbkt lt chel tfrbwk hktb prhsbk ukgahrcy akd tflrls dul prb!lss.1:%laf, H `lchlvl hk acc tfbsl tfhk s, tfhs hs Ailrh!a, ylaf.1

ut hg ybu tfrbw hk :a!thvhst1, yburl dbkl. Hts rhdh!ucbus, akd hts ukgahr ùt a cbt bg tfhs hs`rakdhk , rh ft0 5fhs hs fbw Ailrh!a wbres hk parth!ucar. Hts fbw wbrds lt `rakdld. Akd H gllcchel cakouaol akd `lhk a`cl tb !biiukh!atl hs sb iu!f ibrl hipbrtakt tfak tfbsl ca`lcs.5fats rlaccy wfat tfhs hs a`but. )lrl rlstrh!tld `y a glw wbrds. )lrl rlstrh!tld `y 5whttlr akdND4 !fara!tlrs. )lrl rlstrh!tld `y tflsl chihtathbks tfat arlkt kl!lssary acc tfl thil akd sb Hgllc chel tflsl ca`lcs db us a dhsslrvh!l, akd !lrtahkcy tfly dbkt db il aky gavbrs, tfbu f H acsbukdlrstakd hts a way bg plbpcl tfat cbvl iy wbre tb say :H cbvl ybur wbre1 akd gbr il tbukdlrstakd, tflyrl chel, : f, yburl bkl bg * yburl il. %burl bkl bg il. )lrl tfl sail *1

$HA= :)lrl bk tfl sail tlai.1

FAPH= k tfl sail tlai( Ph ft. :)lrl tlaiiatls.1 At tfl sail thil H gllc chel part bg ilfatls tfat `l!ausl Hi a !bildhak. Hi kbt asfaild bg `lhk a !bildhak. 5flrls iakydhgglrlkt * wflklvlr plbpcl say, :A f, !bildys bpprlsshvl.1 Hi chel, :Jclasl dbkt. %bu ghkd

lrtahk plbpcls vbh ls bpprlsshvl. %bu ghkd lrtahk hdlas bpprlsshvl. "bildys a rlgcl!thbk bgsb!hlty, akd tfats acsb a rlgcl!thbk bg sb!hltys bpprlsshbk, chel wfat wl db. "bildy hskt tflprb`cli.1

Hts chel sayhk , :H fatl rap. Pap hs sl/hst akd ihsb ykhst akd ra!hst L 1 $b. Pap fas `llk !b*bptld `y !brpbratl hktlrlsts akd ra!hsi, must chel lvlrytfhk lcsl hs. Gbkt b agtlr tfl art gbri.;b agtlr fbw hts `lhk usld. #ail whtf aky art. Ht grustratls il tb flar plbpcl say tfat a`but!bildy `l!ausl !bildy fas acsb `llk part bg iy ch`lrathbk akd hs part bg iy grlldbi. H dbktukdlrstakd wflk plbpcl dhsihss ht. H ukdlrstakd wfy plbpcl dhsihss ht, ùt H dbkt tfhke hts gahr,akd H tfhke tfat wl acc favl tfl a`hchty tb usl aky art gbri tb L

$HA= Obr bbd0

FAPH= %laf, gbr bbd, whtf akytfhk . Jlbpcl ellp sayhk , :)lcc ybu !akt usl tfl iastlrs tbbcstb dlstrby tfl iastlrs fbusl1 akd Hi chel, :)lrl splaehk hk 3k chsf(1


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$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= :%burl tlcchk il tfhs hk 3k chsf( %burl tlcchk il kbt tb usl tfl iastlrs tbbcs, ushk tfliastlrs cak ua l(1

$HA= &cau fhk ' %laf. %bu tbu!fld bk sb iaky tfhk s H wakt tb tace a`but.

FAPH= H cl!turl hk tfhs `h arrl way. Hts `lhk bvlrldu!atld.

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= Hts stuphd.

$HA= )lcc, wl !ak tace a`but tfat. &cau fhk '

FAPH= )flk H ilak bvlrldu!atld H acsb L H 8uachgy lvlrytfhk . ut H ilak bhk tfrbu f gbriacldu!athbk akd tfly tla!f us tb splae hk lssays whtf, :5fhs hs iy tflshs statlilkt akd tflsl arliy pbhkts tb prbvl ht.1 Hi kbt sayhk tflrls kl!lssarhcy sbiltfhk wrbk whtf tfat, ùt tfhs hsfbw Hi trahkld.

$HA= -fi. )lcc Hi rlaccy hktlrlstld hk tfl tlkshbk `ltwllk L fbw db H put tfhs L ybu say tfat!bildy hs kbt a ibrl bpprlsshvl gbri bg ildha br art gbri tfak aky btflr ehkd bg ildhuis, ùtH tfhke tflrl hs sbrt bg a tfhk hk !bildy, wflrl2 yburl grll tb say tfhk s tfat btflrwhsl ybuwbucdkt `l a`cl tb say, akd `l!ausl yburl tryhk tb lt a cau f, H tfhke plbpcl arl ibrl L Hwbucdkt say plbpcl arl ibrl gbr hvhk , `l!ausl ltthk cau fs hs fard &cau fhk ' L ùt H ulss H

must gllc chel tflrls sbrt bg tfhs :#ay akytfhk 1 br :Akytfhk bls1 ?lkvhrbkilkt60

FAPH= H tfhke hts ibrl dak lrbus, wfh!f hs part bg tfl l/!htlilkt bg ht.

$HA= )fats ibrl dak lrbus0

FAPH= H tfhke !bildy hs dak lrbus hk tfat ybu !ak say akytfhk , akd lvlrybkl gllcs ht. 5flaudhlk!l gllcs ht, tfl plrgbrilr gllcs ht, chel yburl pcayhk whtf tfl ld ls bg wfat ybu !ak akd!akkbt say. Hts chel wflk plbpcl say Hi kbt bgglkshvl, akd H lt a htatld. Hi chel, :Hi kbtbgglkshvl tb !bu .1

$HA= &cau fhk ' Gb ybu tael tfat as ak hksuct0

FAPH= H tael tfat as sbil`bdy wfbs cbst a slksl bg !bktl/t. Hi kbt bgglkshvl tb ybu. %bu ekbwwfat tfl wbrcd hs, akd tflrls a cbt bg plbpcl wfb wace but bg iy sfbws `l!ausl tflyrl ak ry,`l!ausl tflyrl bgglkdld. 5fly !ak !acc il :pbchth!accy !brrl!t1 as iu!f as tfly wakt tb, ùttflyrl bgglkdld `y wfat Hi sayhk akd tfats wfy tflyrl wacehk but.

$HA= -fi.


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FAPH= 5fly dbkt chel wfat Hi sayhk , `l!ausl * wfb ekbws wfy0 l!ausl tflyrl wfhtl,`l!ausl tfly *

$HA= %burl !facclk hk tflhr kbris.

FAPH= l!ausl Hi !facclk hk tflhr kbris, ylaf, akd tflhr wbrcdvhlw, akd br iay`l `l!auslbtflr plbpcl arl cau fhk akd tfly dbkt chel tfat `l!ausl tfly dbkt chel tb `l bk tfl shdl tfatscau fhk at , iay`l hts aky bg tfbsl tfhk s0 ut ylaf tflrls sbiltfhk a`but !bildy tfatsdak lrbus, akd tfats part bg ht, ùt wflk H flar sbilbkl say sbiltfhk tfats fbrrhgh! * flrlstfl wlhrd tfhk a`but ht, H tfhke plbpcl gbr lt Hi a !bildhak. 5fats iy hce. 3vlk tfl plbpcl ybufatl, Hi bkl bg tfli. Hts fard tb adiht tfat, akd H adiht tfat * hts kbt fard tb adiht tfat, H aitfat L ùt hts fard gbr plbpcl tb flar tfat. H ai tfat, Hi grbi tfat, tbb. Chel, tflsl arl iy pllrs.5flsl arl plbpcl H ekbw. 5flsl arl plbpcl H fak but whtf, akd H ih ft kbt kl!lssarhcy chelwfat tfly say bk sta l acc tfl thil, ùt Hi bkl bg tfli. )l db a vlry wlhrd, spl!hgh! tfhk tfatbtflr plbpcl dbkt db br kl!lssarhcy ukdlrstakd. H dbkt acways ukdlrstakd wfy H klld tb dbtfhs. H 8ulsthbk ht acc tfl thil, chel, :)fy ai H L H favl a wbkdlrguc gaihcy akd grhlkds wfb cbvlil akd a partklr wfb !arls gbr il, chel wfat hs tfhs0 )fy db H klld tb db tfhs0 )fy dbkt H musttla!f01

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= $btfhk a ahkst tla!flrs, ùt H !ak db btflr tfhk s tfat arl prbà`cy ibrl wbrtfwfhclakd iay`l ibrl pbwlrguc, chel H db tfhs, akd H cbvl ht akd H klld ht akd L

$HA= Favl ybu !bil up whtf ak akswlr tb tfat 8ulsthbk0

FAPH= H klld ht, H cbvl ht, H klld ht. 5flrls sbiltfhk H lt but bg tfl l/plrhlk!l tfat wflk tfatghrst cau f fapplks br lvlk wflk Hi hk a fbcl akd H favl tb lt iyslcg but `l!ausl H put iyslcg hk a fbcl, fbw db H lt but bg tfhs ilss akd H lt but bg tfl ilss br H dbkt lt but bg tfl ilss,ùt tfl kl/t thil H lt but bg tfl ilss, tflrls su!f l/!htlilkt hk ht. $btfhk iaels il, kbtfhkiaels il gllc sb fappy wflk hts wbrehk , wflk hts !ch!ehk , wflk hts bk, chel wflk a klw mbelwbres. f iy bd, tfat :!ats arl wfhtl plbpcl mbel1 tfat H dhd cast kh ft, wfh!f H dhdkt wakt tbspbhc ùt tfats a L

$HA= %bu acrlady put ht bk 5whttlr.

FAPH= H puta chkl bk 5whttlr ùt tflk H turkld hktb sbiltfhk lcsl.

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= 5fl klw iatlrhac kh fts tfat H acways db hk #lattcl, tfly acways iael tfat fapplk. H must!bil up whtf tflsl ia h!ac tfhk s. Hi sb l/!htld a`but tfhs phl!l. Hi must sb l/!htld. H dbkt


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ilak hts ia h!ac chel lvlrybkl tfhkes hts ia h!ac. H gllc ia h! wflk H say sbil bg tflsl tfhk s.Hi chel, :Fbw dhd H tfhke bg tfhs01

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= l!ausl hts sbiltfhk a`but tfl ibilktui bg tfl audhlk!l akd il gllchk !bigbrta`clakd must ltthk ht but akd tfli trusthk il, il trusthk tfli. ut ylaf Hi bkl bg, Hi a!bildhak, akd Hi hk tfat rbup, sb H tfhke plbpcl tfhke L

$HA= 5fly tfhke yburl kbt bkl bg tfli, yburl bkl bg us.

FAPH= Akd Hi `btf.

$HA= -fi.

FAPH= Hi `btf. H !bil grbi a sb!hac musth!l à!e rbukd, akd H rlad iaky bg tfl sail tfhk siaky bg tfl gbces H chel rlad, akd H !arl a`but iaky bg tfl sail tfhk s, akd H favl tfl sailpbhkts bg vhlw, akd Hi 8ulsthbkhk iyslcg !bkstaktcy, ùt Hi acsb a plrgbrilr. -y bac hskt tbiael ybu tfhke, iy bac hs tb iael ybu cau f. Hg H waktld tb iael ybu tfhke, Hd iael ybu dbsbiltfhk lcsl. Hd db sbiltfhk tfat ibrl plbpcl a!tuaccy chstlk tb akd Hd db ht tb iael plbpclcau f. $b dhsrlspl!t tb pbltry, H tfhke hts `lauthguc akd pbwlrguc, ùt H acsb ekbw tflrls arlasbk wfy !bildy !ak ibvl ilssa ls gastlr. Hts kbt tb say tfat !bildy dbls ht `lttlr, brdbls ht ibrl !clarcy.

$HA= Hts ibrl a!!lssh`cl.

FAPH= %laf. Ht shipchghls a cbt ibrl tfak pbltry dbls, H tfhke. Ht shipchghls hssuls akd ilssa ls,`l!ausl tflrls ak l/pl!tathbk bg cau ftlr, akd sb yburl rlstrh!tld `y tfl gbri. ut H `lchlvl hktfl gbri akd H cbvl tfl gbri, akd tfl gbri hs sbiltfhk H dhd `lgbrl H !accld ht a gbri, akdsbiltfhk tfat was vlry katurac tb il hk tfat H dhd whtf iy grhlkds akd gaihcy as a way bg !bphkakd survhvhk , akd ht waskt sbiltfhk tfat was gbriach ld as a gbri, stakd*up !bildy, ùt htsfbw H tace. H !biiukh!atl tfrbu f fuibr. H !akt flcp ht. Hts must wfb H ai. #b H tfhke hts L Hi a!bildhak. #b wflk plbpcl say, :$b, H fatl !bildhaks,1 Hi part bg tfat. Hi part bg tfat, akd htsa vlry !bipch!atld flrhta l. H tfhke tfl gbri hs !bipch!atld akd ht hs dak lrbus akd kbtlvlr!tfhko !bu flar whcc olc whtf !bu .

Hvl !lrtahkcy sahd tfhk s Hi kbt prbud bg, akd H favl !lrtahkcy sahd tfhk s H rl rlt akd favl fadtb rlwrhtl akd rltfhke. Akd Hvl !lrtahkcy `llk !accld but, akd sbilthils H dhsaorll whtf `lhk!accld but. Akd H sthcc dbkt a rll whtf sbil bg tfl tfhk s plbpcl favl sahd H sfbucd db br sfbucdkbt db. 5flrls btflr tfhk s H tfhke a`but akd Hi chel, :H fatl fbw ybu sahd ht ùt H whcc tfhke a`butht.1 %bu ekbw, Hi fuiak, akd H favl tfl rh ft tb dhsa rll, akd H favl tfl rh ft tb iaeldl!hshbks tfat * Hi kbt bhk tb say Hi 8ulsthbkhk iy rh ft, Hi kbt bhk tb ar ul tfat * ùtHi bhk tb db tfhk s tfat iay`l plbpcl bk :bur shdl1 arl kbt bhk tb chel, br ghkd hssuls whtf.


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Akd ybu ekbw wfat0 5fats iy mburkly, akd H favl tb gh url tfat but gbr iyslcg, ùt at tfl sailthil Hi apprl!hathvl bg tfl plbpcl tfat favl sfarld tfhk s whtf il tfat gbr!ld il tb tfhkea`but iy pbhkts bg vhlw. Akd ucthiatlcy as a plrsbk, ht iaels il a gucclr plrsbk, akd as awrhtlr, ht iaels il a `lttlr wrhtlr, `l!ausl Hi taehk hk a pbhkt bg L hts !lrtahkcy, as a!bildhak, hts chel tfhs hs ibrl hktlrlsthk akd l/!hthk `l!ausl Hi l/prlsshk a pbhkt bg vhlw

tfats kbt kbriaccy tflrl. Hk addhthbk tb tfl rh ftlbus bg tfl pbhkt bg vhlw, akd iy `lchlg hk tflpbhkt bg vhlw, hts ibrl hktlrlsthk !rlathvlcy `l!ausl hts kbt as strah ftgbrward. Pa!hsi hs lasy.#l/hsi hs lasy. Chel, !rlathvlcy0 Hts must rh ft. Hts lasy.

$HA= l!ausl tfl mbels favl acrlady `llk wrhttlk0

FAPH= Hts `llk dbkl( H !ak flar ht hk a àr akywflrl. Hg ybur ra!hst uk!cl !ak say ht, wfy ai Hsayhk ht0

$HA= &cau fhk ' eay. A ahk, sb iaky tfhk s H wakt tb rlspbkd tb.

FAPH= &cau fhk ' Hi sbrry.

$HA= $b, kb. Hts acc bbd. kl bg tfl tfhk s H tfhke hs rlaccy hktlrlsthk akd ybuvl, yburl bhkfard gbr !bildy, akd H apprl!hatl tfat, as ak ukdlrvaculd art gbri. 5fl bkl tfhk H L beay, H gllcchel tfhs hs rlaccy bhk tb upslt ybu.

FAPH= #ay wfat ybu favl tb say.

$HA= H gllc chel hk a parth!ucar way, !bildhaks arl a chttcl `ht chel !bps.

FAPH= Chel !bps0

$HA= %laf.

FAPH= f bd. H wakt tb flar tfhs.

$HA= &cau fhk ' Hk tfat, wflk bkl bg tfli gu!es up, acc tfl btflr plbpcl hk tfl `rbtflrfbbd ehkdbg slli tb favl tflhr à!e. )bucd ybu dhsa rll whtf tfat0

FAPH= H ilak, H, H, H ehkd bg a rll whtf tfat. $bt !bipc* H sll wfat ybu ilak, akd H tfhke tfatsak hktlrlsthk pbhkt, chel tfl hdla. 5fl dhgglrlk!l hs tfat !bps favl pbwlr.

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= "bps favl hksthtuthbkac pbwlr.

$HA= "bps favl tfl statl vhbclk!l `lfhkd tfli.


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FAPH= #tatl vhbclk!l, ùt !bildhaks, ybu !ak acsb L ybu !akt acsb `by!btt !bps. "bps whcc ghkd L Hi kbt sayhk wfb tb `by!btt, ùt Hi sayhk ybu !ak !fbbsl kbt tb. H tfhke !bildhaks ltvlry upslt wflk tflrlrl scai phl!ls a`but L scai phl!ls hs su!f a sfhtty way bg sayhk tfhs Lwflk tflrlrl phl!ls a`but tfli, br twllts a`but tfli, !rhth!h hk tflhr wbre. 5b il tfats a sh ktfat plbpcl arl chstlkhk , akd a!tuaccy vacul ybur wbrds akd ybur cak ua l.

$HA= -fi.

FAPH= 5fat ilaks tfat ybu a!tuaccy !bukt. l!ausl wflklvlr !bildhaks say, :Hts must a mbel,1hts chel sayhk , :Cbbe, H dbkt iattlr. Gbkt ybu ukdlrstakd tfat iy wbrds dbkt iattlr01 Placcy05flk wfy arl ybu up tflrl sayhk tfli0 Akd sb Hd !lrtahkcy, Hvl fad `llk !rhth!h ld pu`ch!cyakd H dbkt chel ht, ùt tfats part bg L wlcc, ybu put yburslcg but tflrl, wfat db ybu l/pl!t0 5fatspart bg ht. #b H wbucdkt say, wflklvlr a !bildhak says sbiltfhk gu!eld up akd awguc, chel dbybu sll il à!ehk hcc "bs`y0 Hts kbt wfat fl sahd. H ilak fls sahd tbks bg tfhk s H dbkta rll whtf, ùt chel hts kbt chel, ybu ekbw wfat H ilak, tflrls a cbt bg !bildhaks H dbkt chel, Hdbkt a rll whtf tfat pbhkt bg vhlw.

H !ak flar a mbel akd ht !bucd `l gu!eld up akd awguc akd bpprlsshvl, akd as a !bildhak H !aksay, :Fuf, tfat was wrhttlk wlcc. 5fat was a rlaccy wlcc*stru!turld mbel a`but sbiltfhkfbrrlkdbus,1 L put hk ybur :fbrrlkdbus1, wfatlvlr tfat hs L akd sthcc fatl tfl mbel. 5fats tfl!bipch!atld tfhk . H !bucd `l a ghciiaelr akd wat!f "fl #hrtf b$ tfl Kathbk akd tfhke :5fatssbil rlat ldhthk .1 akd fatl ht. Chgl hs !bipch!atld. %bu !akt must `l chel, :Hts ùccsfht, hts akawguc ghci.1 Hi chel, :%b. %bu !ak usl tfbsl ldhthk tl!fkh8uls tb iael sbiltfhk akth*ra!hst.1%bu !ak clark, ybu ekbw wfat H ilak0 Chel tfl iastlrs tbbcs, tfhs tfhk , H ukdlrstakd, ùt hksbil ways wlrl stu!e whtf ht tb sbil dl rll, whtf tfl iastlrs tbbcs. )fltflr hts 3k chsf,wfltflr hts wfatlvlr. )lrl rlstrh!tld `y wfat wlrl dbhk . Chel, wlrl ushk ak hJfbkl tb

!apturl pbch!l `rutachty. Hts ak hJfbkl. Gb ybu ekbw wfat Hi sayhk 0 Hts sthcc ak hJfbkl.

$HA= 5fl iastlrs tbbcs.

FAPH= %laf. Chel tflrls bhk tb `l rlstrh!thbks, ybu ekbw0 5fats, wlrl stu!e tb sbil dl rll.@kclss wl lt tb -ars ghrst.

$HA= :)l1 `lhk plbpcl bg !bcbr0

FAPH= %laf, ùhcd tfbsl rb!elt sfhps ghrst akd lt up tflrl ghrst akd gh url ht but, ùt2 !bil upwhtf a dlglksl systli. 5flrls rlaccy2 wl favl tb db wfat wl !ak db. #b Hi kbt bhk tbdlglkd acc !bildhaks. Hi kbt bhk tb dlglkd tfl :`rbtflrfbbd1.

$HA= rbtflrfbbd iael ht sbukd chel wlrl tacehk a`but Aryaks.

FAPH= H gllc chel, H tfhke plbpcl !rhth8ul hk tflsl ways akd hts chel Hi kbt bhk tb dlglkd ht, ùtHi bhk tb dlglkd tfl gbri, akd tfl art gbri, akd bg !bursl Hi kbt bhk tb say H dlglkdgrlldbi bg spll!f, wfh!f hs stuphd, `l!ausl kb bkls atta!ehk grlldbi bg spll!f whtf


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grlldbi bg spll!f. Hvl klvlr fad !bildhaks say tfat chel, :-y ghrst ailkdilkt, grlldbi bg *1Chel, kb. "fl %N pbch l& 5flrls kb su!f tfhk ( )flrl arl tfl arrlsts0 Hvl klvlr sllk tfl J"arrlsts akd tfl J" mahcs( )fat arl ybu tacehk a`but0

Akd plbpcl tace as hg tflrls a glar bg chel, ybur rh fts `lhk taelk away, must chel akytfhk lcsl.

Jlbpcl say, :)lcc tflk plbpcl whcc stbp, `by!btt iy sfbws(1 'lcc tfats fbw ht wbres( 5fats fbw!aphtachsi wbres( )fat db ybu tfhke0 Hg plbpcl dbkt chel wfat ybu db, tfly stbp sfbwhk up.5fats acways `llk tfl !asl( 5fats wfy sbil !bildhaks iael ht up tflrl `l!ausl tfly lt accsbrts bg suppbrt grbi iambr !brpbrathbks, akd tflk sbil plbpcl dbkt. 5fhs hs ukgahr("aphtachsis ukgahr( Akd sbilthils !aphtachsis usld a ahkst !bu tbb(

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= )fat arl ybu sfb!eld `y0 #b kb, Hi kbt bhk tb say H suppbrt acc !bildhaks. Hts chelsayhk Hi bhk tb suppbrt acc ) . Hi klvlr bhk tb db tfat. Akd lvlk hg tflrls a !bildhak * Hekbw a tbk bg !bildhaks wfbrl chel, must `l!ausl tfly say sbiltfhk tfats gu!eld up dblsktilak tfat H dbkt chel btflr tfhk s tfly say. %bu ekbw, tfats tfl !bipch!atld katurl bg aky ehkdbg dhs!bursl, aky ehkd bg dhs!usshbk. H chel tfat pbhkt bg vhlw. H tfhke tfat pbhkt bg vhlws `rhcchakt.Hvl klvlr sllk sbiltfhk chel tfat `l sahd a`but ra!l akd tfats a`sbcutlcy hk!rldh`cl, ùt tfhsbtflr pbhkt bg vhlws hk!rldh`cy fbibpfb`h!( Gb wl dhsihss tfhs plrsbk as a wfbcl0 H dbkt tfhkewl dhsihss tfhs plrsbk as a wfbcl. )l tael wfat wl !ak tfats `lklgh!hac akd wl db wfat wl!ak whtf tfli. Hvl iadl a cbt bg ihstaels acbk tfl way tb lt wflrl H ai akd H dbkt tfhke Hia plrgl!t fuiak. H cbvl wfat H db, ùt H cbvl a cbt bg btflr plrgbrilrs akd plbpcl ih ft ghkd tfli* akd H fatl tfl usl bg tfl wbrd :prb`cliath!1, hts ak lipty wbrd L hts must away bg sayhk :H ghkdsbil bg tfhs sfht gu!eld up1.

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= H ilak H db tfhke L sbil`bdy sahd sbiltfhk bk Oa!l`bbe wfh!f H apprl!hatl L tfldhgglrlk!l tfbu f `ltwllk :gu!eld up1 akd :prb`cliath!1 hs :prb`cliath!1 dbls pbsl ht as aprb`cli tfat !ak `l sbcvld whtf sbcuthbks, wfh!f H db apprl!hatl, ùt H db tfhke hts sthccsbilwfat va ul. %bu say ybu dbkt chel ht, tfat sbiltfhk `btflrs ybu ùt ht dblskt say wfattfl prb`cli hs. ut H tfhke hts hipbrtakt gbr tfl pbhkts bg vhlws tb `l but tflrl, akd lvlk hg htsgu!eld up, tfat gu!eld uppld*klss hs a rlgcl!thbk bg sb!hlty. Hts a rlgcl!thbk bg iay`l !lrtahkiahkstrlai `lchlgs, akd hts ak bppbrtukhty kbw ibrl tfak lvlr, `l!ausl bg tfl hktlrklt, tbdhs!uss ht, tb dhs!uss ht hk a way tfats klvlr `llk dhs!ussld `lgbrl.

Akd H acsb tfhke !bildhaks lt a cbt ibrl, lt ht a cbt fardlr tfak btflr art gbris l!ausl htsa!!lssh`cl, `l!ausl hts strah ftgbrward, `l!ausl hts a fuiak tacehk . ut ybu ekbw wfat05flrl arl tfhk s tfat H tfhke arl lvlk wbrsl `l!ausl bg tfl prbdu!thbk vaculs bg ghci akdtlclvhshbk. Akd `l!ausl hts a chttcl ibrl raphd*ghrl whtf hia ls akd wfat plbpcl sfbw. H tfhketfat a!tuaccy hs2 akd H tfhke hts a!tuaccy lashlr tb b agtlr !bildhaks. Hts a plrsbk tacehk ,tflrls a shk cl a!!bukta`cl plrsbk hk a !lrtahk way, vlrsus ga!lclss !brpbrathbks. %bu ekbw,hts kbt tfl a!tbrs gauct. Hts must ak a!tbr( Acc ybu !ak say ?hs6, : f tfl a!tbr tbbe tfat rbcl(1 5fats


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acc ybu !ak say, :)fyd ybu tael tfat rbcl01 ùt ucthiatlcy tflrls a cbt bg ibkly `lfhkd ht,tflrls a cbt bg wrhtlrs `lfhkd ht, tflrls a cbt bg btflr hkgculk!l `lfhkd ht. A !bildhak, ybu ekbwl/a!tcy wfb tb tar lt akd dhs!uss. Akd H gllc chel, H ukdlrstakd ht, ùt H acsb tfhke hts, tflrl arlplbpcl wfb favl a cbt ibrl hkgculk!l, a cbt ibrl L iambr ibthbk ph!turls arl bhk tb favliu!f ibrl hipa!t tfak Cbuhs " , must `l!ausl bg tfl kui`lrs bg plbpcl sllhk ht akd tfl ga!t

tfat hts bhk cbàc.

$HA= %laf.

FAPH= Hts kbt tb dlglkd acc !bildhaks. Hts must tb `l chel, :Clts `l rlac a`but wfat wlrl dbhkakd wfy wl !fbbsl tb tace a`but !bildhaks1 akd kbt tb say wl sfbucdkt, Hi must sayhk tflrlsa rlasbk gbr sbil bg tfhs akd H db tfhke tfat hts !fak hk . Akd H db sll ibrl !bildhaks bg !bcbr akd !bildhaks wfb favl à!e rbukds hk akth*bpprlsshbk wbre sfarhk tflhr vbh!ls. Akd H dbtfhke tfat, Hd chel tb tfhke, tfat "btacc! #hasld fas sbil rbcl hk tfat akd tfl ga!t tfat `lgbrl wll/hstld, Hd ekbwk kbtfhk chel us.

$HA= %laf.

FAPH= %laf. 5fats a cbt, tfats a cbt, Hi sbrry.

$HA= H tfhke tfl `h lr, tfl !bp tfhk , H waskt tryhk tb say ybu suppbrt acc !bildhaks br dlglkdacc !bildhaks wflk tfly say rlaccy gu!eld up tfhk s. H tfhke wfat H was tryhk tb lt at was tfatsbrt bg, chel L

FAPH= :%bu1 `lhk :kbt il1, ùt :ybu1 `lhk tfl, as a !bildhak. r il0

$HA= H dbkt rlili`lr wfat H must sahd. &cau fhk '

FAPH= eay, ylaf.

$HA= %bu plrsbkaccy wlrl sayhk tfat ybu dbkt dlglkd, gbr l/aipcl, hcc "bs`y.

FAPH= r, Hi kbt bhk tb dlglkd, Hi kbt bhk tb dlglkd L hts must wlhrd. %bu flar la!fstatlilkt as ht hs akd ybu rlspbkd tb tfl statlilkt. r whtf "bs`y, hts kbt a statlilkt, htssbiltfhk `h lr tfak tfat, b`vhbuscy. Ak a!!usathbk bg `lhk a slrhac raphst hs kbt a statlilkt,tfats chel, : f iy bd.1 akd ht rlgcl!ts kbt bkcy bk fhi, ùt bk bur sb!hlty tfats accbwld gbr tfhsgbr sb cbk . Akd tflsl vbh!ls arl kbt klw vbh!ls tfat favl a!!usld fhi. 5fhs hs dl!adls bg stugg tfat wl must h kbrld ukthc kbw0 )fh!f hs, ylaf. ut Hi kbt bhk tb L "bs`ys kbt tfl rlatlstl/aipcl `l!ausl hts kbt chel rlspbkdhk tb a mbel br ak hdla. Hts a rlspbkdhk tb sbiltfhkiu!f, iu!f `h lr. ut H gllc chel H favl tfl, H dbkt klld tb rlspbkd kl!lssarhcy tb lvlry mbel a!bildhak iaels akd say fbw iu!f H fatl ht. 5fats kbt iy rbcl.

$HA= $b.


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FAPH= -y rbcl hs tb b bk sta l akd splae iy trutf akd clt iy trutf `l tfl rlspbksl.

$HA= Ph ft, akd H waskt tryhk tb su lst tfat was ybur rbcl.

FAPH= f kb, gbr surl. %laf, ylaf.

$HA= H tfhke stakd*up hs a rlaccy fard mb`. H tfhke hts rlaccy ukdlrvaculd art gbri. H tfhke hts chelbkl bg tfl bkcy art gbris wflrl ybu lt fl!ecld. &cau fhk '

FAPH= %laf, ylaf, ylaf.

$HA= %bu klvlr sll plbpcl at a iuslui sayhk , :5fhs hs sfht(1 akd tfrbwhk l s bk ht.

FAPH= )lcc hg sbilbkl waces but akd prbtlsts at a pcay br sbiltfhk , tfats a klws stbry. 5fatpbtlkthaccy !bucd `l `h lr. )flk ht fapplks hk !bildy, Hi chel :3f.1

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= H ilak tfats wfat ybu lt gbr `lhk larklst(

$HA= &cau fhk ' 5fats sb !ykh!ac( ut H tfhke tflrl hs tfhs tfhk bg chel, `l!ausl wfat ybu db hsrlaccy fard, tfat tflrl hs a tlkdlk!y tb `l chel, :H ih ft kbt a rll whtf tfhs dudls pbhkt bg vhlw,ùt H rlspl!t fhi as a mbel*tlcclr, H rlspl!t fhi as ak arthst.1 r must chel, :H rlspl!t tfat fl !ak

lt up tflrl akd tlcc mbels hk grbkt bg a rbup bg drukes lvlry kh ft gbr fbwlvlr cbk .1

FAPH= Ph ft. Fl, br sfl, br tfl! , rh ft0 H ilak, akd H whcc say :tfly1 `l!ausl H tfhke hts kbt must

strah ft wfhtl !hs ilk akyibrl. 5fl ail hs !fak hk . Hi prbud bg tfhs ay Arla chkl*up. Hilak ybu saw tfl sfbw cast kh ft.

$HA= -fi.

FAPH= 5fhs traks wbiak, H `lchlvl 3ch!ha hdlkthghls flrslcg as 8ullr, `h. Hi chel a strah ft !hsdudl, ùt Hi #butf Ashak Ailrh!ak. #b tfats ak hk!rldh`cl chkl*up. Akd ybu ih ft say, :%laf,yburl pcayhk hk #ak Orak!hs!b.1 Hi pcayhk at a bild! cu* hk #ak Orak!hs!b. Hts a rlat!bildy !cu`, akd bkl tfat Hvl acways waktld tb fladchkl, ùt hts sthcc a !bildy !cu`, whtf tfl!bildy !cu` kbris, akd sb tfats ak hk!rldh`cl chkl*up. 5fhs wllelkd tb il hs chel, :)fat tflfl!e hs bhk bk0 5fhs hs rlat( 5fhk s arl chel...1 Akybkl wfb !bils tb tfl sfbw whtf a !lrtahkslt bg l/pl!tathbks bg a !bildy !cu` akd slls tfl tfrll bg us. f iy bd, $atasfa -usl,3ch!ha #ak!fl , akd il0 f iy bd2 H cbvl tfl ga!t tfat L H saw ak bcdlr wfhtl !bupcl hk tflaudhlk!l tfat dhdkt ibvl tfl wfbcl, tfly must... Ht waskt chel tfl usuac wfhtl plbpcl wfb b L

$HA= &cau fhk ' Arl tfly tfl bkls tfat tfl $JP mbels a`but0

FAPH= $b, kb, kb. Ht waskt tfl $JP pbchtl !capphk sihcls. Ht was tfl, :)fat tfl flcc hs tfhs01


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$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= :H !ail tb sll strah ft wfhtl dudls( )flrls +a!ehl -asbk01 @f, ht was `lauthguc. #bylaf, H ilak hts !lrtahkcy * tfl ails !fak hk . Akd H dbkt ilak must !bildy. H ilak

lvlrytfhk , akd 8uh!ecy. Hts sb scbw, ùt hts 8uh!elr tfak ht usld tb `l, db ybu ekbw wfat Hilak0 Ht dlplkds bk ybur plrspl!thvl. %bu !bucd acways L ht cbbes scbw grbi a dhstak!l ùtwflk ybu cbbe, hts must. H dbkt lvlk ekbw wfat Hi sayhk , Hi must tryhk tb db sbiltfhk whtfplrspl!thvl akd Hi gahchk at ht. ut wfat Hi sayhk hs hts a cbt gastlr tfak ht usld tb. 5lk ylarsa b, !fak l dhdkt fapplk as 8uh!ecy. 5fl Hktlrklt !fak ls lvlrytfhk . 5flrls ibrl vbh!lsakd a!!bukta`hchty. H cbvl ht.

#b ylaf cast kh ft akd tfhs wllelkd hk #ak Orak!hs!b, chel, hts dhgglrlkt. Ht must gllcs dhgglrlkt.

$HA= ut yburl grbi chel tfl ibst dhvlrsl pca!l

FAPH= Mullks, ylaf.

$HA= %laf, sb whtf tfhs chkl*up, ybu dbkt sll tfhs hk $lw %bre0 Hs tfat wfat yburl sayhk 0

FAPH= $b, kbt chel tfhs. l!ausl !bildy hs sthcc !bildy. )lrl tacehk a`but tfl hkdustry bg ht,ybu ekbw0 Akd acsb tfl kui`lr bg vbh!ls bg plbpcl chel -ar a ;bil 0 5fats a ay Arlacl lkd, cls`hak, chel wflrls flr vbh!l hk tfl iahkstrlai0 #fls `llk arbukd gbrlvlr.

$HA= %laf.

FAPH= #fls a ay Arla cl lkd, ùt wfy hskt sfl a `h lr dlac0 H was tacehk tb ;uy rakuia`but tfhs, akd hts chel -ar as a cl lkd, ùt sfl !ail at a thil plrhbd wflrl sfl dhdkt lttfbsl bppbrtukhthls. ut sfls a cl lkd(

$HA= #fls sthcc flrl.

FAPH= #fls sthcc flrl, ùt sfls kbt iahkstrlai kathbkac hk a way sfl !bucdvl `llk hg sfl wassbilbkl lcsl dbhk a dhgglrlkt tfhk . 5fats part bg wfy sfls aia hk as wlcc, ùt tflrlssbiltfhk a`but chel L hg sfl was hk a dhgglrlkt shtuathbk H `lt ybu sfl wbucd favl `llk2 chelflr tbday, H tfhke, wbucdvl L

$HA= Chel hg sfl was bihko up tbday hkstlad bg acrlady `lhk a cl lkd0

FAPH= %laf, ylaf, ht wbucdvl `llk dhgglrlkt. )fb ekbws0 Fhkdsh ft hs 74E74. ut chel H must gllcchel tflrls sb iaky vbh!ls tfat dhdkt lt tb iael ht tfat wl tace a`but catlr akd sahd chel, :5fatwas ak hkgculk!l,1 akd wlcc dhs!bvlr tflhr wbre catlr. ut kbw, ybu ekbw, plbpcl arl ltthk!fak!ls tb `l bk 59. Jlbpcl arl ltthk !fak!ls tb `l bk Jihdkhoft akd `l bk catl kh ft tfatwlrlkt accbwld tb `lgbrl. Akd lvlk whtfbut tfbsl iahkstrlai atlellplrs, plbpcl arl ghkdhk


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a way tb lt tflhr vbh!ls flard, hk !bildy akd hk btflr gbris, tfrbu f tfl Hktlrklt akd btflrtfhk s. H cbvl sllhk wfat Hi sllhk . Hts rlat.

$HA= %bu sbukd acibst fbplguc.

FAPH= H ekbw, hts bgg*`rakd, hskt ht0

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= Hts bgg*`rakd gbr il( H ai, tfbu f. Hts gukky. H was tacehk tb iy grhlkd, +ay ak . +ay"asphak ak 0 %laf, wl wlkt tb bwdbhk tb ltflr. #iacc, rh!f ch`lrac2

$HA= %laf, H favl a grhlkd tfat L H tfhke wl favl a iutuac grhlkd.

FAPH= )fbs ybur iutuac20

$HA= +bfk kapp.

FAPH= )fh!f +bfk kapp0 H ekbw twb +bfk kapps.

$HA= Hts chel tfl ibst !biibk wfhtl uy kail lvlr. &cau fhk '

FAPH= 5flrl wlrl twb +bfk kapps wfb wlrl tfl sail ylar wfb eklw la!f btflr, akda!tuaccy fad a radhb sfbw !accld : kapp #8uarld1 wflk H was tflrl.

$HA= )lcc, fls tfl tacc wfhtl uy whtf `rbwk fahr. &cau fhk '

FAPH= f( : h +bfk kapp,1 as H !accld fhi. Fl pcayld Orhs`ll. Gb ybu ekbw hg fl pcaysOrhs`ll sthcc0

$HA= H dbkt ekbw.

FAPH= %bu sll Chttcl +bfk kapp acways wbrl a twlld ma!elt akd drake wfhsely. Akd h +bfkkapp, ih ft favl drake wfhsely, `ut fl was tacc akd fl pcayld Orhs`ll whtf iy `lst grhlkd,

#ai.

$HA= eay.

FAPH= %laf, fbw db ybu ekbw +bfk kapp0

$HA= Fl usld tb datl iy `lst grhlkd.

FAPH= )fbs ybur `lst grhlkd0


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$HA= Chcy Fbggiak*Akdrlws.

FAPH= f iay`l2 $b, H dbkt ekbw, `l!ausl H favlkt2 5fl cast plrsbk +bfk datld wassbil`bdy H acsb eklw at bwdbhk.

$HA= %laf, tfhs hs wflk fl chvld hk )br!lstlr.

FAPH= H ekbw wfh!f +bfk kapp yburl tacehk a`but. H ihss +bfk. +bfks rlat. Fl usld tb chvldbwk tfl facc grbi il hk sbpfbibrl ylar. Fls rlat. ut wflrl wlrl wl bhk `lgbrl tfhs+bfk kapp L fly +bfk(

$HA= &cau fhk ' %bu wlrl fak hk but whtf +ay ak .

FAPH= %laf( Fls ak bcd bwdbhk grhlkd akd fl fad wrhttlk ak arth!cl a`but ^lrhac .

$HA= %laf, H must rlad tfhs rl!lktcy.

FAPH= %laf, fl was must `lhk !rhth!ac bg tfl ga!t tfat ybu favl a rlpbrtlr wfbs wfhtl, favhk awfhtl clks tb dhs!uss plbpcl bg !bcbr akd hiih rakts. Hts bhk tb `l kbt 8uhtl rh ft. Akd plbpcl

must bt bk fhi a but tfat( Akd H gbukd tfat su!f ak a`surd grustrathk tfhk . +ust chel, bkl, htsfard wflk ybu !rhth!h l wfhtl plbpcl, tfly grlae but, akd hg ybu !rhth!h l a tfhk wfhtl plbpcl chel,bf i! obd(

$HA= 3spl!haccy :ch`lrac1 wfhtl plbpcl.

FAPH= f iy bd, `l!ausl tflk tfly favl tfhs, :Cbbe, Hi acrlady ch`lrac, Hvl acrlady taelk iy

!cassls. Hvl acrlady rlad tfl stugg.1 %bu dbkt lvlk favl tb rlad tfl stugg( Chstlk tb il tace(

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= :$b, `ut Hvl rlad tfl stugg, H ekbw wfat yburl bhk tb say.1 Hts tfat arrb ak!l, sayhktfat fl sahd sbilbkl was ra!hst br usld tfl wbrd :prb`cliath!1. +ay dhdkt say aky bg tfbsltfhk s. %burl putthk wbrds hk fhs ibutf. #b il akd +ay wlrl tacehk , must a`but fbw wlcc

bwdbhk prlparld us gbr tfhs kbkslksl.

$HA= Obr wfhtl dlibkry0 &cau fhk '

FAPH= Obr wfhtl dlibks, gbr ch`lrac wfhtl plbpcl wfb dbkt chstlk tb ybu akd tfhke tfly ekbwlvlrytfhk akd dbkt rlspl!t ybur pbhkts bg vhlw akd tfly !cahi tfly db. 5fly tace a`butdhvlrshty `ut tfly dbkt wakt tb flar ybur vbh!l. Akd hts sb arrb akt akd grustrathk . Hts chel, :)lekbw fbw tb wrhtl arth!cls tfl sail way ybu db, `l!ausl wl wlkt tb tfl sail dlibk s!fbbc,sb wfy arl ybu tacehk tb us tfhs way01


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ut wlrl `btf tacehk a`but tfl ga!t tfat, wl wlrl `btf sayhk L H tfhke +ay wbucd `l beay whtfil sfarhk tfhs L ùt must fbw tflrls a ybuk lr lklrathbk tfat dblskt tael sfht akyibrl. Akdwl tbbe sfht. Akd tfly dbkt tael sfht `l!ausl bg tfl Hktlrklt. 5fly rlw up favhk tflhr vbh!lsflard. 5fly dhdkt waht. 5fly rlw up favhk tfl Hktlrklt, favhk pbwlr. )htf tfl Hktlrklt,favhk pbwlr, tfly eklw fbw tfat wbreld. Akd wlrl tacehk a`but a lklrathbk tfats bkcy gbur,

ghvl ylars ybuk lr tfak wl arl. Hts kbt lvlk tfat `h bg a `rlae. Akd tfly dbkt tael sfht . Akdwl `btf sahd tfat, ybu ekbw, tfat wl wlrl fbplguc, akd ht was bgg*`rakd.

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= Hts kbt chel us at acc ( Ht rlaccy hs a dhgglrlk!l. H tfhke gbces wfb, #butf Ashak gbces wfb dbktlt iy `httlrklss iay`l, akd grustrathbk, akd ht !bils grbi rbwhk up whtf must Apu, akd ht

!bils grbi rbwhk up whtf glwlr vbh!ls `lhk prlslkt.

$HA= %bu ilak !bukolr #butf Ashak gbces0

FAPH= %buk lr #butf Ashak gbces wfb dbkt lt ht. H tfhke tflrls a lklrathbk tfats chel, :%ls( Hrlili`lr acc tfhs akd Hi sthcc l/plrhlk!hk ht.1 5fhs lklrathbk H tfhke iay`l hs sbilwfat chel,tfly sll sbil `rbwk plbpcl akd tfly dbkt sll tfl `h lr hssuls `l!ausl tfly favl tfhsihkhiui tfhk tfly dbkt ukdlrstakd tfat tfhk s arl sthcc kbt gahr, wfat tfl fhstbry bg tfl !buktryhs, akd tflyrl sbilwfatL

$HA= #flctlrld0

FAPH= #flctlrld, ùt acsb tflyrl fappy whtf sbiltfhko . )htf sbiltfhk , ybu ekbw.

$HA= -fi.

FAPH= H tfhke wl !ak sthcc db ibrl. Hi kbt must tacehk a`but #butf Ashaks, ùt hk tlris bg vbh!lstfat rlgcl!t tfl `rbadlr l/plrhlk!l bg Ailrh!a br must L ildha hs sb hipbrtakt, lspl!haccy wflkyburl a ybuk plrsbk akd yburl `lhk sfapld `y wfat ybu sll. 5fl hdla bg wat!fhk arbiakth! !bildy, wfh!f ybuk plbpcl db, akd Hi kbt lvlk tfat bcd akd Hi sayhk :ybukplbpcl1 wfh!f hs upsltthk , ùt L

$HA= %burl chel >70

FAPH= >7. Akd must tb, hg H rlili`lr, sllhk rbiakth! !bildhls was lvlrytfhk , ùt H acwaysfavl tb trakscatl grbi tfl wfhtl plrsbk. Chel tfhs plrsbk hs wfhtl akd tflyrl tacehk a`butdhgglrlkt tfhk s akd dhgglrlkt l/plrhlk!ls, ùt ybu ekbw, cbvl hs sbiltfhk H !ak ukdlrstakd. Hwakt tfat gllchk , Hi `rahkwasfld hktb tfhs, ùt ht fas tb `l tfrbu f tfl wfhtl clks, rh ft0 Hgtflrls tbb iaky plbpcl bg !bcbr hk tfhk s, tflk ybu flar plbpcl b, : f ybu klld sbil wfhtlplbpcl hk tfhs, btflrwhsl wfhtl plbpcl arlkt bhk tb wat!f ht br lt ht.1 Akd Hi chel, :Gb yburlach l fbw slcghsf akd ukgahr tfat hs0 5fat wl acways favl tb trakscatl, wl acways favl tb sllburslcvls as tfl wfhtl plrsbk, ùt tfl wfhtl plrsbk klvlr fas tb sll tflislcvls as us. 5fly


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!akt db ht. 5fly arl kbt whcchk tb db ht. 5fat upslts tfli. Gb ybu rlach l fbw2 )l favl tb `ll)tra fuiak. Gb ybu ekbw wfat H ilak0 )l favl tb sll fuiakhty hk btflr plbpcl tfat favldhgglrlkt l/plrhlk!ls, gbr us tb lkmby akytfhk .1 Akd as a wfhtl plrsbk ybu dbkt acways favl tbdb tfat. @kclss ybu travlc, tflk ybu lt tb sll L

$HA= %bu fardcy lvlr favl tb db tfat.

FAPH= Fardcy lvlr( Akd lvlk wflk yburl travlchk , yburl sthcc sllk whtf tfhs fh f rl ard. #b Hsll fbpl hk tfat way tfat tflrl arl ibrl vbh!ls2 akd hts kbt rlat, hts kbt plrgl!t, hts kbtlvlrytfhk , `ut hts sbiltfhk akd wl dhdkt favl sbiltfhk .

$HA= %laf. "ak wl tace a`but "btacc! #hasld 0

FAPH= g !bursl wl !ak.

$HA= &cau fhk ' )fat was tfl prb!lss bk L Hvl acways waktld tb ekbw wfat hts chel tb wrhtl gbra 59 sfbw. )fat dbls tfl a!tuac wrhthk rbbi chel akd tfl prb!lss0

FAPH= H ilak H dbkt ekbw wfat lvlry wrhthk rbbis chel akd Hvl bkcy wrhttlk gbr bkl sfbw, akdbur sfbw hs a vlry ukh8ul sfbw, akd grbi vltlrak wrhtlrs wfb wlrl bk bur stagg, hts tfl ibstdhvlrsl wrhthk rbbi tflyvl lvlr sllk, lvlr. Akd tfhk s wbre dhgglrlktcy bk bur sfbw tfak bkbtflr sfbws, sb H dbkt rlaccy ekbw.

$HA= Fbw iaky wrhtlrs tb start whtf0

FAPH= @f, H tfhke wl fad chel tlk, `ut H tfhke wl addld a !bupcl ibrl wflk wl wlkt dahcy. H

ilak, ht varhls. Ohrst slasbk akd sl!bkd slasbk varhld, tbb. Ohrst slasbk, wld pht!f tfhk s,aiau wbucd flar ht, wld `rlae up hktb rbups akd wrhtl, br wld wrhtl sbiltfhk akd tflk

wld rlad ht akd plbpcl wbucd add mbels tb ht. 5fl wllecy, !lrtahkcy, H cbvl tfl dykaih!s bg tfat acbt ibrl `l!ausl wl fad tfl s!rhpts at tfl lkd bg tfl wlle, wld sll wfats strbk lst akd tfatcasts. Akd sbilthils aiau lts hksphrld akd tfat `l!bils, tfat taels prl!ldlk!l akd sb wlacc waht gbr sbiltfhk grbi kl/t wlle iay`l. )l usld tb chel, H tfhke fl was `lst wflk fl fadsbiltfhk fl rlaccy cbvld tfat was acibst ak lssay gbri, akd wflk fl fad ibvlilkt.

$HA= eay.

FAPH= A cbt bg plbpcl saw aiau hk ehkd bg a sthgg way wflk fl was ushk tfl tlclprbiptlr.)flk fl was ibvhk , akd ushk tfl s!rllk, wfltflr ht was :#hefs akd #flhes1 br tfl btflrtfhk s wl dhd tfat plbpcl cbvld, tfats wflk fl was at fhs `lst, `l!ausl tfats stakd*up aiau.

aiau usls tfl sta l `lttlr tfak aky !bildhak Hvl lvlr sllk, dbhk tfl tfhk s tfat flsdbhk , tacehk a`but tfl hssuls tfat fls dbhk , akd sthcc `lhk a`cl tb usl tfl sta l tfat way,fls a *rhcchakt plrgbrilr. H dbkt tfhke Ailrh!a saw tfat part bg fhi as iu!f as tfly sfbucdfavl. Akd tfl phl!ls tfat rlaccy fht tfl fardlst wlrl tfbsl phl!ls. rhcchakt plrgbrilr.


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#b hg fl bt hksphrld, br sbilthils, lspl!haccy larcy bk hk tfl sfbws fhstbry, Gwaykl lkkldy,wfb dblskt usl a !biputlr, wfb must rl!lktcy bt a !lcc pfbkl a glw ylars a b akd bkcy tl/tshk acc !aps. &cau fhk '

$HA= &cau fhk ' ;bd, H cbvl fhi sb iu!f(

FAPH= Gwaykl hs su!f a !asl. Fls aia hk . )flk Gwaykl wbucd `l bk a rbcc, hk tfl wrhtlrsrbbi, ht `l!ail a sfbw wflrl Gwaykl was starrhk akd wld must sht `a!e akd wrhtl grakth!accyakd sbilthils fl wbucd wrhtl akd a!t fhislcg must `y rhgghk , kbt `y ilakhk tb, ht was acibstchel fl `ca!eld but akd was bhk akd wlrl chel, :)lcc, tfats tfl sfbw(1

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= )l wastld a wlle wflk Gwyakl must wlkt bgg gbr N4 ihkutls akd wl wrbtl ht. 5flrl wasibilkts bg tfat, lspl!haccy larcy bk hk tfl sfbw. Ht was a ia h!ac wrhtlrs rbbi akd tfl ghrstslasbk lspl!haccy glct tfat. Ht was must rlaccy spl!hac, rlaccy rlat dykaih!s, tfl grlldbi tb saywfatlvlr akd kbt favl tb dlac whtf tfl wfhtl a l. f( :;a l1 splccld :;*A*1 f `by. f kb.

$HA= &cau fhk ' 3/!lpt gbr ;uy rakui.

FAPH= Hia hkl tfat. :Farh sahd wfhtl ays ruk Fb L: $b, H dhdkt say tfl wfhtl ays L cbbe, tflpbhkt bg vhlw bg tfl L

$HA= ;*A* *3.

FAPH= %laf, ylaf, ;*A* *3. f iy bd.

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= f kb.

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= Fuggpb fladchkl= :Farh bkda`bcu Fas Hssul )htf )fhtl ;ays.1 $b( $b, ybu dhdkt, tfatskbt L yburl splcchk ht L kb( Gbkl hk `y wrbk wbrd !fbh!l.

$HA= 5fhs whcc `l traks!rh`ld gbr dlag a!!lss sb Hcc iael surl tfat hts splccld !brrl!tcy.

FAPH= 5fake ybu. 5fake ybu.

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= ;bd, tfat wbucd `l awguc.


18/29

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= "arllr dlstrbyld whtf tfl wrbk wbrd. ut wl fad su!f a grlldbi, akd wl cau fld sbfard hk su!f a way tfat Hvl klvlr cau fld. Hts fard, chel cau ftlr whtf !bih!s `lhk bk sta l.Placcy yburl tryhk tb tbp ybur plrsbkac l/plrhlk!l cau fhk whtf grhlkds, akd tfats fard

`l!ausl fbklstcy, Hvl cau fld fardlr whtf grhlkds tfak hk aky btflr shtuathbk. Chel, grhlkds mustekbw ybu. 5flrls kb !bktl/t tfat kllds tb `l hvlk. Chel, must bkl rlibvld wflk yburl at a!bildy sfbw. %burl kbt bkl rlibvld wflk yburl cau fhk whtf ybur grhlkds. %bu ekbw wfat Hilak0

$HA= -fi.

FAPH= ut tfat wrhtlrs rbbi was tfl fardlst H cau fld butshdl bg cau fhk whtf grhlkds. Ht wasprltty aia hk . +ust cbshko ht `l!ausl tflrl wlrl su!f `rhcchakt plrgbrilrs akd wrhtlrs akd H glctsb prhvhcl ld.

$HA= Gb ybu favl aky gavbrhtl tfhk s tfat dhdkt iael ht bk0

FAPH= f ylaf. ;bd, H !akt rlili`lr tfli. 5flrl wlrl tfhk s H whsf fad iadl ht hk tfat klvlr dhd, br chkls. H !akt rlili`lr, `l!ausl ybu ekbw, lvlry day tflrls sb iu!f stugg.

$HA= %laf.

FAPH= 5fl Pldsehks, tfl )asfhk tbk Pldsehks stugg, tflrl was a mbel hk tflrl whtf a rlaccysukùrkld wfhtl plrsbk. 5fat was bkl bg iy bcd stakdup mbels tfat aiau usld bk tfl sfbw. Hfad tfhs wfbcl tfhk a`but :Clts iael ht a !aipah k, clts db tfhs wfbcl tfhk .1 Akd wl dhdkt db

ht akd aiaus chel, :H dbkt tfhke...1 H aseld fhi agtlr tfl sfbw, :"ak H tael sbil bg tfl phl!lstfat klvlr iadl ht bk, br phl!ls wl klvlr rlaccy dhd iu!f whtf01 Fls chel, :%laf, db wfatlvlrybu wakt whtf wfats clgt.1 Akd sb H bt tb iael iy bwk )asfhk tbk Pldsehks vhdlb.

$HA= )htf rhak -!"akk0

FAPH= )htf rhak -!"akk, wfb was a Nbkak wrhtlr, ùt fl was acsb a 5btaccy hasld wrhtlrsl!bkd slasbk, wfh!f, fls su!f a taclkt. 5flrl was must sb iu!f stugg tfat wl dhdkt L akd

aiau was chel, ybu ekbw, akd H was fappy tb db tfat phl!l a`but tfl )asfhk tbk Pldsehks`lhk rl`rakdld as a slvlrlcy sukùrkld wfhtl plrsbk. Chel tfat was ak bcd stakdup mbel tfatwas tflk a `rhlg "btacc! #hasld mbel, tfat l!ail a !aipah k tfat H bt tb start, akd sb, tflrls!lrtahkcy tfhk s tfat H, whtf aiaus `clsshk , Hd `l a`cl tb ph!e tfrbu f bcd `hts bg ihkl tfatiadl tfl sfbw, br dhdkt iael tfl sfbw, tfat kbw H !ak rldb stugg whtf.

$HA= )flk ybu wlrl wbrehk whtf tfl sfbw, wlrl ybu tflk hk tfl )rhtlrs ;uhcd0

FAPH= %ls. %laf, ht was a ukhbk sfbw.


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$HA= eay. Arl ybu sthcc hk tfl )rhtlrs ;uhcd0

FAPH= %laf, H tfhke bk!l yburl hk, yburl hk, ùt ybu favl tb pay duls, akd acc tfat.

$HA= )fat dbls tfat lt ybu0 Hi must rlaccy !urhbus.

FAPH= Flactf hksurak!l.

$HA= eay.

FAPH= Hg ybu iael a !lrtahk aibukt bg ibkly, akd chel ybu wbre a !lrtahk aibukt bg 8uartlrs br sbiltfhk , ybu lt ybur flactf !bvlra l, wfh!f hs fu l. #!rllkhk s tb pbtlkthaccy award*kbihkatld ghcis. %bu vbtl gbr tfhk s. #bil dhs!bukts.

$HA= &cau fhk ' #b lvlk tfbu f yburl kbt wrhthk akyibrl, ybu sthcc lt flactf hksurak!ltfrbu f tfl ;uhcd0

FAPH= 5lipbrarhcy, H tfhke ukthc Aprhc, tflk H favl tb gh url ht but. ut ylaf, ybu lt sbil!bvlra l, bbd !bvlra l, bbd flactf hksurak!l. Fbklstcy, H tfhke wrhtlrs lt a `lttlr dlac tfaka!tbrs db.

$HA= Fuf.

FAPH= Obr surl. H ilak, hts wfb bwks tfl stugg, rh ft0 )fb bwks tfl tbbcs, rh ft0 Hts wfblvlrbwks tfl stugg. )rhtlrs akd prbdu!lrs bwk tfl stugg. A!tbrs dbkt bwk tfl stugg.

$HA= H fadkt tfbu ft a`but ht tfat way.

FAPH= Hts hktlccl!tuac prbplrty.

$HA= %laf, ùt fbw iu!f db ybu lt tb rltahk tfl rh fts tb tfl stugg ybu wrhtl0

FAPH= %bu lt rlshduacs, ybu dbkt rlaccy bwk tfl rh fts tb ht. %bu lt pahd bk!l hts ahrld hk away tfat a!tbrs db tbb, ùt kbt as iu!f as wrhtlrs. Jlbpcl wfb prbdu!l akd wrhtl stugg lt pahd`lttlr tfak, ybu ekbw.

$HA= Hi rlaccy !urhbus a`but fbw tfat wbres, ùt H dbkt ekbw hg iy audhlk!l hs as klrdy a`butsfbw`h as H ai. &cau fhk '

FAPH= H tfhke a!tbrs favl tfl caibur pbshthbks ùt rlaccy tfl siart ibvl hs tfl bwk tfl wbreakd tb iael, !rlatl tfl wbre. H ilak, hg yburl tacehk a`but ghkak!hac sta`hchty akd stugg, akd acsbpbwlr. Hts plbpcl `lfhkd tfl !ailras wfb favl tfl pbwlr, kbt tfl a!tbrs akd wrhtlrs. Hts chel,wflklvlr plbpcl b agtlr ak a!tbr gbr taehk a part, Hi chel, :H ukdlrstakd wfat yburl sayhk ,chel I)fy db tfly db `rbwkga!l01 H lt ht, ùt surl. Jarth!ucarcy wflk hts plbpcl bg !bcbr wfb


20/29

iael !fbh!ls, ùt Hi chel, :%burl bhk agtlr tfl cast chkl bg dlglksl. #bil`bdy was bhk tbpcay tfat part, `l!ausl hts ak hksthtuthbkac tfhk . Hts a`but pbwlr akd ibkly. %burl bhk agtlrtfl siacclst part bg ht.1

$HA= #b wfb db ybu tfhke tfly sfbucd `l bhk agtlr0

FAPH= )fb !rlatls ht akd a !ucturl tfat accbws gbr ht.

$HA= 5fat wbucd `l tfl wrhtlrs, rh ft0

FAPH= Ht wbucd `l tfl wrhtlrs br ht wbucd `l tfl a!tuac prbdu!thbk, tfl a!tuac plbpcl wfb put htbut. H ilak, H dbkt ekbw, hts gukky tb **

$HA= 5fl kltwbre l/l!uthvls0

FAPH= #url( Hts chel wlrl bhk agtlr tfl siacclst phl!ls bg tfl !fahk. eay, tfat plrsbks but bg ht, sbilbkl lcsl hs bhk tb db ht.

$HA= %laf.

FAPH= #faihk bkl plrsbk hs kbt tfl tfhk . Hts a `h lr, !ucturac tfhk . Hts !rlathk klw ways tbdb tfhk s, !rlathk , ybu ekbw, ybu favl tb !bkvhk!l plbpcl tflrls btflr ways tb db tfhk s,btflr ways tb iael ibkly, akd acsb !ucturaccy L db ybu tfhke !lrtahk ra!hst mbels arl dbktplrshst `l!ausl plbpcl fad a !bks!hlk!l0 $b. Hg tfbsl tfhk s iadl lkbu f ibkly, wld sthccfavl +ibs , +kd! bk tfl ahr.

$HA= f, H sll wfat yburl sayhk .

FAPH= Gb ybu ekbw wfat H ilak0 Hts chel acc bg a suddlk wlvl sfapld !ucturl wflk tfbslehkds bg tfhk s !akt iael ibkly akyibrl, sb tfly dbkt db ht. 5fhs hskt a`but rh ftlbusklssakd musth!l. Fbccywbbd fas iadl, Fbccywbbd fas dbkl tfhs akd hts sfapld L surl, ùt ybu acsbeklw tfat ht !ak iael ibkly. 5fhs hs a`but ibkly. 5fhs hs wfat tfhs hs a`but. #b ucthiatlcy htprbvls tb `l !rlathk stugg tfat prbvls tb `l sfaphk ybur bwk2 %bu ekbw, +weward #ca e hrc ,H tfhke hts sb !bbc tfat Hssa Pals !rlatld flr bwk dlsthky tb sbil dl rll. Akd sb aiau dhdas wlcc. %bu iael ybur bwk stugg akd2 &à!e rbukd kbhsl' Hts tfl Hccuihkath hk tfl à!e rbukdhg yburl wbkdlrhk .

$HA= &cau fhk ' )lrl a`but tb lt wfhseld away.

FAPH= As iu!f as tflrls rbbi gbr, bg !bursl wl sfbucd `l !rhth!ac, bg !bursl wl sfbucd !acctfhk s but, ùt iael ybur bwk stugg. Hi kbt sayhk tfat hk tfl ehkd bg kbsl*up*hk*tfl*ahr, chel, :Hgybu dbkt chel ht, db ybur bwk tfhk .1 Hi kbt sayhk tfat . Hi sayhk tfat hts ibrl prbdu!thvl akdpbwlrguc hg ybu iael sbiltfhk tfat plbpcl cbvl tfak tfhk s tfat plbpcl !ak fatl whtf ybu. Gbybu ekbw wfat H ilak0 Hts ibrl pbwlrguc akd hts ibrl uslguc. -brl tfak lvlr wl !bktrbc bur


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bwk dlsthkhls akd H dbkt ilak tfat hk a wlhrd ch`lrtarhak way. H must ilak tfat `l!ausl bg tflHktlrklt, lvlk whtf ht `lhk ibkhtbrld, wl favl tfl a`hchty tb !bktrbc tfat ibrl tfak lvlr, akdukdlr rbukd art a!tuaccy fas a `h lr gbccbwhk tfak ht usld tb `l!ausl bg tfl Hktlrklt.

%laf, surl, `l !rhth!ac ùt clts iael sbil stugg. H gllc chel, iael sbil stugg, clt ht `l pbpucar,

tflk wl wbkt wat!f tfat !rap, wlcc wat!f bur stugg. Akd iay`l wlcc lt sbil ibkly grbibtflr pca!ls tb iael ibrl stugg. Akd as iu!f as plbpcl tace a`but 5btaccy hasld L iastlrstbbcs. Chel wl wlrl bk OK, bwkld `y Puplrt -urdb!f.

$HA= %laf. )fat db ybu ilak :as iu!f as plbpcl tace a`but "btacc! #hasld 10

FAPH= Jlbpcl cbvl "btacc! #hasld , akd fbw iu!f ht ilaks tb tfli, akd stugg, akd hts bwkld `y,hts bwkld `y chel2

$HA= Ob/. %laf.

FAPH= %laf. Hts sthcc 59.

$HA= %laf. &cau fhk '

FAPH= H ilak ht hs wfat ht hs. H ilak, Hvl wbreld L wflklvlr ybu plbpcl arl prbud bg Lwflklvlr Hi bk 59, Hi acsb bk 59 akd ucthiatlcy hts bwkld `y, wfat, gbur !bipakhls0

$HA= ut !bu iadl ht. $bt chel yburl2

FAPH= Hi dbhk wfat H db hk tfbsl pca!ls. Hi sayhk wfat H wakt tb say akd sbilfbw sbil bg

tflsl hdlas arl bhk tb ibrl plbpcl tfrbu f tflsl pca!ls ùt hts sthcc tfrbu f tflsl pca!ls.

$HA= Ph ft, ùt hts chel yburl bk bg tfl bkls tfat bt hk.

FAPH= &cau fhk ' Ph ft, rh ft rh ft.

$HA= Hssa Pal akd aiau, gbr lvlry plrsbk tfat lts tb wflrl tfly arl, dbhk wfat tflyrldbhk , tflrls cbts akd cbts bg btflr plbpcl dbhk wfat tflyrl dbhk .

FAPH= %ls. Akbtflr rlasbk wfy gbr tfl gbces wfb iael ht tfrbu f, hts hipbrtakt gbr us tb `rhkbtflr plbpcl whtf us. )fat aiau dhd bk tfat sfbw, fl bt a cbt bg plbpcl bk tfat sfbw as

ulsts tfat dhdkt lt tb `l ulsts hk btflr pca!ls akd bt tb sfarl tflhr stbrhls hk btflr pca!lsakd H ilak, tfats hk!rldh`cl, iak. Hi must L fhs lklrbshty. Hi aia ld `y fhs lklrbshty, must hktlris bg L fl dhdkt klld tb clt acc fhs wrhtlrs favl phl!ls bk tfl sfbw. 5fhs hs ybur ghrst sfbw.Fl !bucdvl `llk ibrl slcghsf tfak fl was.

Hcc acways `l ratlguc. H ilak, fl was bkl bg iy `lst grhlkds `lgbrl tfl sfbw startld, akd!lrtahkcy durhk tfl sfbw, tflrl wlrl ibilkts wflk H was chel, :H fatl ybu sb iu!f.1


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$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= :H fatl ybu. Ht hs catl. H wakt tb b fbil. 5fhs stuphd sfbw hs furthk acc iy rlcathbksfhpswhtf iy partklr, iy `rbtflr, iy parlkts, akd iy grhlkds wfb H klvlr lt tb sll akyibrl`l!ausl Hi wbrehk acc tfl day gbr !bu . H tfbu ft ybu wlrl iy grhlkd, akd kbw yburl iy `bss.1

Ht dblskt iattlr, `l!ausl bk!l yburl a `bss, yburl a `bss. %bu ekbw, kb`bdy chels tflhr `bss(&cau fhk '

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= ut lspl!haccy cbbehk à!e bk ht, dudl clt il `l bk 59. )fb lcsl clt il `l bk 590 )fblcsl clt il `l bk 59 rl ucarcy akd clt il say wfat H waktld tb say akd pusf il tb b0 5fatghrst phl!l bk 5btaccy hasld wflrl H taceld a`but tfl #butf Ashak rlprlslktathbk hk ildha, akd-hkdy achk akd Apu, akd fbw wl bt tb -hkdy achk akd A h akd wfat cld tb tfat, chel, Hdhdkt wakt tb db tfat phl!l( Ohrst bg acc, H was ibrl klrvbus a`but `lhk a ghrst*thil wrhtlr akdwakthk tb `l a bbd wrhtlr, akd aiau, chel tbwards tfl lkd bg tfat ghrst !y!cl bg tfl sfbw, Htfhke ht was lphsbdl B br Z, tbwards tfl lkd bg tfl !y!cl, fls chel, :%bu klld tb db a phl!l bktfl sfbw.1 Hi chel, :-ak, Hcc must gb!us bk wrhthk . H dbkt wakt tb wrhtl gbr il `l!ausl Hvl hvlkup tfat chgl `l!ausl H wakt tb gb!us bk wrhthk gbr ybu.1 Fls chel, :)l fhrld ybu tb db phl!ls,tbb. %burl a rlat plrgbrilr.1

Akd Hi chel, :Cbbe, H ekbw tfat, ùt H rlaccy wakt tb suppbrt ybu. 5fhs hskt a but L :

$HA= %bu dhdkt wakt tb `l bk !ailra at acc0

FAPH= H waskt wbrrhld a`but ht. H must waktld tb `l tfl `lst L ybu ekbw, H waktld tb ellp tfhs

mb`, akd H wakt tb l `lttlr at tfhs. Fls chel, :Hg ybu dbkt db a phl!l, yburl bhk tb lt ghrld.1

$HA= &cau fhk ' : y il.1

FAPH= %ls, sb Hi chel, : eay(1 #b H wrhtl tfl phl!l akd H ghkd tfhs ak cl, akd H gllc !brky a`but httfl wfbcl thil, H must gllc L

$HA= Hs tfat tfl bkl chel, :$bw tfat tflrl arl ibrl #butf Ashak plbpcl L:

FAPH= %laf, :H !ak `l !rhth!ac21 %laf, akd hkhthaccy tfl phl!l was must tacehk a`but Apu akd Ltfat was a catlr ak cl bg ht tbwards wfhcl H was wrhthk dhgglrlkt dragts, wfh!f hs akbtflr rlasbkwfy H chel tfl wllecy, `l!ausl ybu !ak wrhtl ibrl dragts bg a tfhk . )flk ybu favl tfl dahcy,ybu favl clss thil, sb ht accbwld ybu tb `l ibrl !rhth!ac. #bil bg tfl dahcy phl!ls arl rlat, ùtsbil bg tfli, fbklstcy, hg wl fad tfl wlle, ht wbucdvl `llk lvlk strbk lr tfak tfly wlrl. Awlle must hvls ybu ibrl thil, ibrl plrspl!thvl, ibrl glldà!e.

ut ylaf, H sahd, :%bu ekbw, tfhs gllcs !brky, iak ùt Hcc db ht. )fy ai H tacehk Apu kbw01 Flschel, :)fat db ybu ilak, hts I!brky01


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:+ust, H gllc chel hts `llk dbkl.1:Htfaskt `llk dbkl( %buvl `llk tacehk a`but tfhs whtf ybur grhlkds $brlvlr . %bu, ybur gaihcy,ybur grhlkds favl taceld a`but fbw rhdh!ucbus tfhs hs tfat ybuvl `llk trlatld tfhs way. $b bklslvlr sahd tfhs hk iahkstrlai Ailrh!a, chel, tfhs hs a!tuaccy klw(1 akd Hi chel, : f iy bd, yburlrh ft.1

#b tfat phl!l !ail but akd bkl bg tfl tfhk s Hi prbudlst bg. 5fat splcchk `ll phl!l, akbtflrtfhk . H was chel, : f iy bd, tfhs gllcs !brky.1 $b( $b bkl lvlr sahd tfbsl splcchk `ll ehds arlatfcltls akd tfly sfbucd `l rlspl!tld akd tflyrl `lhk iadl guk bg hk tfhs way wflrl tflhrvbh!ls arl `lhk ihkhih ld. Chel, tb il hts !brky.

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= ut ht waskt. Hts gukky, H dhd ibrl #butf Ashak*tflild stugg tfak H db hk iy a!t. -y a!tfas a glw phl!ls `ut kbt rlaccy, ybu ekbw. H tace ibrl a`but ra!l as a `h lr tfhk akd as a!bkstru!t akd !bcbkhachsi. H dbkt tace a`but `lhk Hkdhak rlaccy. Jlbpcl tfhke tfats wfat H dbgrbi tfl sfbw. 5fats kbt rlaccy wfat H db hk iy a!t tfat iu!f. H tace a`but ra!l as a `h lrtfhk , kbt a`but tfat. Hts ibrl karrbw.

k tfl sfbw, H dhd ibrl bg tfat akd ht a!tuaccy L H rlach l kbw tfat, wfba, tflrls a cbt bg plbpclwfb klldld tfat plrspl!thvl, wfb dhdkt favl ht. Acsb, il akd Aparka ?$ak!flrca6 L Aparka dhddhgglrlkt tfhk s L `ut tfl ga!t tfat wl wlrl `btf tflrl, rlaccy, ht was hipbrtakt tfat wl `btf wlrltflrl, slcghsfcy. Jlbpcl bt tb sll a rak l.

$HA= Gb ybu tfhke sfl was tfl ghrst #butf Ashak wbiak tb plrgbri bk Nbkak 0

FAPH= %laf. Akd ghrst #butf Ashak wbiak tb db stakdup bk catl kh ft. )fh!f hs gukky, H dbktekbw hg tfats trul0 ut tfats wfats `llk rlpbrtld, `l!ausl H twlltld ht.

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= l!ausl H aseld Aparka hk tfl bggh!l, :Arl ybu tfl ghrst #butf Ashak tb db a Catl $h ftstakdup slt01 Akd wl wlkt tfrbu f tfl chst bg plbpcl wl ekbw akd wl `btf wlrl chel, :H tfhkesb.1 #b H twlltld ht hk acc !aps, akd tflk Ml.l*lc !htld il akd iy twllt, wfh!f was a twlltwfh!f !ail but bg il tacehk tb flr, akd kbw hts ga!t.

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= 5fats fbw tfl Hktlrklt wbres.

$HA= "bk ratucathbks. &cau fhk '

FAPH= H tfhke tfats trul. 5fats fbw pbbrcy tfhs fas `llk rlslar!fld. Chel, #butf Ashak Ailrh!ak fhstbrys kbt rlaccy L sb Hi tfl sbur!l akd tfl !rlatbr bg tfl fhstbry.


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$HA= 5fats a pbwlrguc pbshthbk tb `l hk. &cau fhk '

FAPH= %laf, Hi iy bwk fhstbrhak.

$HA= #b ybu akd aiau favl a rlaccy `lauthguc `rbiak!l. &cau fhk '

FAPH= H ilak, hts su!f a bbd grhlkdsfhp, ylaf.

$HA= Fbw dhd ybu twb illt0

FAPH= $atb ;rllk, wfb wrbtl gbr 5btaccy hasld as wlcc gbr tfl ghrst slasbk.

$HA= Akd fls a #O !bih!.

FAPH= Fls a #O !bih!( Akd $a* rlat !bildhak, akd fhs acùi hs gaktasth! akd hs vlr! iu!f aay Arla acùi. 5flrls a !lrtahk vbh!l tfat plbpcl tace a`but, chel iy acùi akd L

$HA= )fats fhs acùi !accld0

FAPH= H `lchlvl hts !accld :5fl $atb ;rllk Jarty1.

$HA= eay.

FAPH= 5fl !bvlrs fhi bk a take. Hts plrgl!t.

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= $atb fas su!f a strbk vbh!l, akd durhk tfl 4< lcl!thbks, $atb waktld tb db a tbur!accld, :Cau f ut tfl 9btl1 akd fl fad il !bil dbwk akd aiau as part bg tfl tbur, ht was astakd*up tbur, akd fl waktld il tb illt aiau. Fl eklw L

$HA= 5fhs was `lgbrl :Cau ftlr A ahkst 5fl -a!fhkl10

FAPH= 5fhs was `lgbrl :Cau ftlr A ahkst tfl -a!fhkl.: 5fhs hs wflk wl ghrst ilt akd fl mustfad a gllchk wl wbucd fht ht bgg, akd wl dhd, hiildhatlcy. Hiildhatlcy, bf iy bd, wlrl grhlkds.

Akd H must ibvld a!e tb $lw %bre at tfhs pbhkt, akd ht was vlry L ht was dhggh!uct `l!ausl H wasusld tb sta l thil hk #lattcl. -y `lst grhlkd chvld hk #ak Orak!hs!b, sb Hd gcy but tb #akOrak!hs!b a cbt tb fak but whtf fhi a cbt akd db sfbws flrl, sb H bt adbptld `y tfl s!lkl attfat thil.

aiau fad lvlk wrhttlk ak arth!cl `lgbrl iy Nbild! Nlktrac %rlslkts facg*fbur a`but fbw Hwas a #ak Orak!hs!b !bih! akd H was adbptld, chel fbw "fapplccl hskt grbi flrl, ùt fl wasadbptld `y #ak Orak!hs!b. Ht was tfl sail tfhk , fls chel, :Fls adbptld `y tfl !hty1 akd ht was


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must, !bihk grbi fhi , hk tfhs !hty, akd tfhs hs fhs !hty, fhs ay Arla L tfl ay Arla hs fhs, tfats a`h dlac.

%laf akyway, H usld tb !bil à!e flrl a cbt akd wflk H !ail à!e, H usld tb fak but whtf iygrhlkd +utthk akd db sfbws. Fak hk but whtf aiau `l!ail a `h part bg tfat. H was sb l/!htld

a`but bur grhlkdsfhp. H favl su!f a !bbc grhlkd, akd ht iadl il gllc chel H waskt acbkl, chel fhiakd $atb wlrl plbpcl wfb fad vbh!ls tfat H fadkt sllk `lgbrl. Ht iadl il gllc chel favhk tflplrspl!thvl H fad, akd favhk tflsl akth*bpprlsshbk trahkhk L akd acsb `lhk a plrsbk bg !bcbr

hvls ybu sbil akth*bpprlsshbk trahkhk tb `l hk whtf, br `lhk a 8ullr plrsbk br, ybu ekbw,wfatlvlr lcsl, chel * :wfatlvlr lcsl1 tfats su!f a dhsihsshvl way tb say ht, iy bd. Hi sbrry.Hi chel :cak ua l hs rlstrh!thvl1 ùt ybu ekbw.

ut ybu a!tuaccy favl sbil à!e rbukd ratflr tfak favhk tlris akd taehk a prbplr trahkhkakd tfhkehk a`but fbw ybu acsb pcay hktb bpprlsshbk, ybu ekbw, fbw ybu !ak `l a plrsbk bg!bcbr akd `l bpprlssld akd sthcc say tfhk s chel :wfatlvlr lcsl1 &cau fhk ', ùt H tfhke ht iadlil gllc chel H waskt wrbk hk iy !fbh!ls, `l!ausl H dhdkt favl !bildy hk tfl sail way. Hk#lattcl wflrl H startld, H usld tb fak but whtf chel cul #!fbcars, H usld tb fak but whtf chel#a` h akd ;lb. cul #!fbcars arl ak hk!rldh`cl fhp fbp rbup hk #lattcl akd tfly must L H fad!biiukhty br akh lrs, arthsts akd pblts, plbpcl H fuk but whtf. 5fhs was dhgglrlkt, `l!ausl Hfad !bildhaks. H fad iy wrhthk partklr, Afai, wfbs a !bih!, Afailgucl cub, ùt aiauakd $atb, ht was dhgglrlkt, ht was !bih!s wfb wlrl wbrehk rl ucarcy akd fad tflsl strbkplrspl!thvls. Akd ltthk tb db /auoftlr +oahkst tfl :a fhkl whtf tfli akd +akhkl rhtb was Ltfat was tfl ghrst thil H dhs!bvlrld 5fl $lw Jarhsf( H dhs!bvlrld tfl pbwlr bg aecakd.

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= H dhs!bvlrld tfat H waskt acbkl akd tfat bur vbh!ls wbucd `l flard akd !bucd `l vlrygukky akd tflrl was ak audhlk!l gbr us. Akd H dbkt ekbw hg ht was iahkstrlai br kbt wfatlvlrwas hk tfat audhlk!l cbvld wfat wl dhd akd tfat was vlry lipbwlrhk . Akd tfats wfy Hrl!brdld iy klw acùi at 5fl $lw Jarhsf hk aecakd.

$HA= 5fat wfat H was bhk tb ase ybu, `l!ausl ybu favl su!f a strbk #lattcl !bkkl!thbk akd$lw %bre !bkkl!thbk, H tfbu ft ht was hktlrlsthk ybu dl!hdld tb rl!brd ybur klw acùi hk

aecakd.

FAPH= $lw %bre hs fard, H tfhke, akd H glct chel H waktld tb `l hk a pca!l tfat glct ibrl!bigbrta`cl. $lw %bres acways `llk fard gbr il tb plrgbri hk. Hvl fad rlat sfbws tflrl akdH fad iy Nbild! Nlktrac %rlslkts tflrl akd H fad a stakdhk bvathbk grbi tfat facg*fbur, wfh!fwas !fhcchk . Chel, : f iy bd Hi ltthk a stakdhk bvathbk bk 59 hk $lw %bre(1 ut H acsbekbw $lw %bre hs fardlr, akd #lattcl hs iy strbk lst àsl. Akd H dhd tfl wari*up sfbws tflrl.

Akd tfl rlasbk H dhdkt wakt tb rl!brd hk #lattcl was `l!ausl H glct chel lvlrybkl eklw acc iystugg, `l!ausl Hi tflrl acc tfl thil akd H wbre but iatlrhac tflrl vlry rl ucarcy lvlry glwibktfs akd sb H waktld sbiltfhk grlsf. Akd fbklstcy tfl wari*up sfbws wlkt sb wlcc, Hichel, iay`l H !bucd favl rl!brdld tflrl.


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Akd aecakd H glct chel Hi kbt hk tfl ay Arla tfat bgtlk, akd H eklw H fad a strbk àsl tfat Hdhdkt rlach l fbw `h ht was ukthc H bt tflrl akd H rl!brdld ht `l!ausl H tfhke H fadkt `llk tflrlhk a wfhcl at 5fl $lw Jarhsf akd ht was ia h!. H dbkt ekbw wfy ùt hts must a ia h!ac vlkul.

$HA= )fat hs ht tfat ybu chel a`but ht0

FAPH= H dbkt L hts must. 3vlrytfhk ( H dbkt ekbw wfat ht hs( Hvl `llk tryhk tb gh url ht but. -ay`l`l!ausl ybu gllc chel yburl !cbsl tb tfl audhlk!l akd sbilfbw L iay`l hts tfl dlib rapfh!sbg tfl ay Arla, akd spl!hgh!accy aecakd, akd fbw dhvlrsl tfl audhlk!ls acways arl. Hts chel Hwas sayhk ylstlrday bk sta l, chel #ak Orak!hs!b audhlk!ls arl bbd, ùt tflyrl acsb a chttcl,!ak `l pbchtl, a chttcl wfhtlr, acsb.

$HA= uttbkld*up.

FAPH= aecakd, hts ybu ekbw, ih/ld. Akd flcc, iy grhlkd Jrhya tbbe a ph!turl durhk iy slt bg awfhtl dudl hvhk a `ca!e pbwlr ghst. Ht was sb L aiau sahd kbriaccy tfat wbucd akkby il ùtsbiltfhk a`but tfl way fl dhd ht, hts chel kb, tfhs uy hs dbwk. Ht was chel, fl was kbt `lhk akassfbcl, ht was chel, :H ai whtf ybu.1

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= Chel, hts su!f a `lauthguc L hts must tfat tfbsl rl!brdhk s wlrl `lauthguc. 5fl thihk bg ht,acsb L akd Hvl sahd tfhs `lgbrl L ùt ht was agtlr tfl 5rayvbk vlrdh!t. H was hk #lattcl wflk tfl5rayvbk vlrdh!t !ail but. H was must a`but tb b bk sta l, a!tuaccy, wfh!f L

$HA= +lsus.

FAPH= 5fl `l hkkhk bg tfat slt was il must s!rlaihk , akd tfat audhlk!l was whtf il, ùt htwas rlaccy fard akd pahkguc, akd H was ylcchk , akd tfl btflr !bih!s, H dbkt tfhke rlaccyukdlrstbbd wfy H was sb upslt `l!ausl, ybu ekbw, hts chel L

$HA= l!ausl tfly wlrl wfhtl0

FAPH= Ht waskt lvlk must `l!ausl tfly wlrl wfhtl L ht waskt must tfly wlrl acc wfhtl !bih!s Lhts, yburl a !bih! akd ybu dbkt ekbw L gbr il, wflk H say tfat Hi a !bildhak ùt Hi acsb aplrsbk whtf tfhs à!e rbukd. Hi `btf tflsl tfhk s, tflyrl dbkt klld tb `l slparatl ùt acsbchel Hi bhk tb gllc tfhk s as sbil`bdy wfb !bils grbi L H gllc tflsl tfhk s fardlr akd tflyilak ibrl tb il tfak iay`l btflr !bildhaks. H dbkt ekbw, H dbkt ekbw. Pl ardclss bg btflr!bildhaks, H gllc tflsl tfhk s akd H favl tb b bk sta l akd H favl tb tfhke a`but wfat H mustl/plrhlk!ld bg flarhk tfat vlrdh!t, ùt H favl tb `l bk sta l, sb H fad tb rla!t tb ht hk rlac thilhk grbkt bg plbpcl, wfh!f hs wlhrd. #b tfat was a rlaccy libthbkac plrgbriak!l. H was ak ry, ùtHi cad H clt ht but `lgbrl aecakd. l!ausl H dbkt tfhke H wbucdvl `llk a`cl tb db tfl sfbwprbplrcy hg H dhdkt clt ht but hk #lattcl.


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H rlili`lr lvlk tlcchk L tfhs bcd wfhtl rhthsf dudl !ail up tb il agtlr akd tbcd il, :H whccacways rlili`lr tfhs sfbw `l!ausl yburl tfl bkl wfb `rbel tfat tlrrh`cl vlrdh!t tb us.1 Ht wassb fard tb flar tfat akd H was sb ratlguc. Ht ilakt a cbt gbr sbil rlasbk. Ht was ak lcdlrcy iak,tbb. H must rlili`lr fhi ltthk libthbkac rlaccy aggl!tld il, chel, :Af(1 +ust tfat ehkd bg gllchktfat tflrl wlrl plbpcl tfat wlrl gllchk ihslra`cl a`but ht, tbb, akd H bt tb iael tfli cau f

agtlr ht, ùt tfat was fard.

ut `y tfl thil H bt tb aecakd, a wlle fad passld sb H was sthcc gllchk tfat, as wlrl a cbt bgplbpcl hk tfat audhlk!l, akd 1ruhtvacl ^tathbk fad must rl!lktcy !bil but, akd tflrl fad `llkprbtlsts, rlaccy kbt gar grbi 5fl $lw Jarhsf, `l!ausl iy wrhthk partklr Afai was hk aecakdchel, :5flrl was ghrl akd !bps(1 5flrl was sbil stugg bhk dbwk must `cb!es grbi 5fl $lwJarhsf akd sb, tfats iy audhlk!l. 5fats gbces wfb wbucd !bil tb iy sfbw akd `l plbpclwfbd `llk tflrl.

$HA= Pl!lktcy tlar assld2

FAPH= &cau fhk ' %laf, rh ft( Akd tfat ghrst sfbw, tflrl was a ghrl wflk H bt but, wflrl plbpclwlrl must ylcchk akd must chel, :Afff(1 tfat Hd klvlr l/plrhlk!ld akywflrl, lvlr.

$HA= 5fhs was a ghrl bhk bk durhko tfl sfbw0

FAPH= $b, kb kb. )flk H ilak tflrl was a ghrl, H dbkt ilak chtlraccy a ghrl.

$HA= eay, hk aecakd ybu favl tb `l !clar. &cau fhk '

FAPH= &cau fhk akd !capphk ' 5fats il !capphk `l!ausl tfats fhcarhbus. %burl rh ft, wflk H

say ghrl, hts kbt kl!lssarhcy iltapfbrh!ac wflk yburl tacehk a`but aecakd akd racchls, rh ft0%laf, tflrl was ak lklr y hk tfat rbbi tfat was sb ia h!ac tfat Hd klvlr l/plrhlk!ld. H glctaia hk . Hvl fad aia hk !rbwds `lgbrl, ùt tfat bkl hk parth!ucar was must. Ht was sb `lauthguc,H whsf H !bucd2 H must H bt bk sta l akd plbpcl wlrl must sb l/!htld akd tflrl was a !atfarshs`lgbrl H lvlk startld tacehk .

Hts a `lauthguc tfhk wflk ybu favl tfl audhlk!ls trust `lgbrl ybu lvlk say akytfhk , akd Hfavl tflhr trust, tbb. 5fbu f H whcc say ht was grustrathk `l!ausl tfly wlrl !fllrhk sb cbud, htglct chel a raccy akd H must waktld tfli tb cau f. -y vhshbk bg ht was must, :+bel, cau f, mbel, cau f1chel aky btflr !bildy acùi. Agtlr H bt bgg sta l, akd tflrl was a pbhkt wflrl H lvlk L ybudbkt sll ht `l!ausl hts audhb, ùt H a!tuaccy put iy fakd up chel, :#tbp, stbp.1

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= l!ausl tfly elpt !fllrhk , Hi chel, :#tbp, stbp1 `l!ausl ybu ekbw, H !akt slt up iy mbels hg yburl !fllrhk acc tfl thil. Hi chel, :Cbbe, Hcc must usl tfl sl!bkd sfbw prhiarhcy gbr tflldht akd tfl ghrst sfbw whcc `l wfat ht was.1 aiau was tflrl as a surprhsl, fl surprhsld il akdchel, :5fat ghrst sfbw was aia hk , wfat db ybu ilak01 H was chel, :Ht sbukds chel a raccy, iak.


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Hts kbt suppbsld tb sbukd chel, !bildys kbt suppbsld tb sbukd chel tfat. 5flyrl `lhkrhdh!ucbus.1

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= Chel, kb(

$HA= H chel tfat yburl `lhk iad at tfli gbr `lhk tbb bk ybur shdl.

FAPH= 3ktfushasth!, ylaf(

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= l!ausl hts a !bildy sfbw, ylaf( H waktld tb flar cau ftlr( aiaus chel, :Akybkl !akiael a !bildy rl!brd. Hvl klvlr flard akytfhk chel tfat. )fy db ybu wakt tb iaelsbiltfhk tfat sbukds chel lvlrybkl lcsl0 %burl kbt chel lvlrybkl lcsl. %bu sfbucd dbsbiltfhk dhgglrlkt. 5fat sfbw rlgcl!tld wfb ybu arl akd wfat ybu db akd tfl !bkkl!thbk ybufavl whtf ak audhlk!l akd tfat audhlk!l hk parth!ucar hk tfat ibilkt. Gb ybur sl!bkd sfbw,wfatlvlr ht hs, ht hs, akd hg ybu wakt tb usl tfl sl!bkd sfbw, usl tfl sl!bkd sfbw. ut tfat ghrstsfbw fas ibilkts yburl kbt lvlr bhk tb lt a ahk.1

Akd wflklvlr aiau splaes, H tael ht tb flart `l!ausl H trust fhi akd fls chel ak bcdlr`rbtflr akd a ilktbr tb il, hk addhthbk tb a grhlkd, akd fl acways fas `llk, hk chgl akd hk!bildy. Akd wflk H dhd tfl ldht, iy grhlkd Afailgucl cub dhd ibst, fl dhd tfl ghrst ldht bg tfltfhk , `l!ausl H was tbb agrahd tb chstlk tb ht. H dhdkt wakt tb chstlk tb iy vbh!l, akd acsb flarhktfl ghrst acùi, tfl !fllrhk grlaeld il but. Afai a!tuaccy dhd tfl ghrst ldht. H dhd tfl ldhts agtlr

Afai. H waktld Afai tb db ht l!ausl H trust Afai !bipcltlcy. Afai sahd, :5fat ghrst sfbw wasaia hk , akd ybu ih ft tfhke tfat sl!bkd sfbw, `l!ausl ybu fad a !clar cau f*mbels, yburlklr y was `lttlr tfl ghrst sfbw, `l!ausl ybu wlrl glldhk bgg tfl lklr y bg ak audhlk!l tfatcbvld ybu akd cau fld fardlr akd was whtf ybu ibrl tfak ybu tfhke.1 Akd tfl acùi rlgcl!ts`btf sfbws, dlghkhtlcy `btf sfbws, ùt tfat ghrst sfbws lklr y, akd tfl lklr y bg tfat ibilkt hk

aecakd tfat H was gbrtukatl lkbu f tb `l a part bg.

$HA= %laf, wlcc H fbpl ybu !bil à!e tb aecakd sbbk.

FAPH= %laf, sbbk. %laf, H was ltthk !rap ylstlrday gbr dbhk a sfbw hk #ak Orak!hs!b. $HA= &cau fhk ' Acways. 5fats klvlr bhk tb stbp(

FAPH= %laf, acways. #bil`bdy says chel, :Hts ehcchk us tb `l flrl.1

$HA= &cau fhk '

FAPH= : ut wl cbvl ybu sb iu!f, wlrl cltthk ybu ehcc us.1


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