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Episode243:UsinganAdrenalReCodetoCalmthe

NervousSystemWithChristaOrecchio


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Katie:Hello,andwelcometothe"WellnessMamaPodcast."I'mKatiefromwellnessmama.com.AndI'mheretodaywithadearfriend,ChristaOrecchio,whoisaclinicalandholisticnutritionistandfounderofTheWholeJourney.Shehashelpedthousandsandthousandsofpeopleandshehelpsthemtodiscovertheirrootcauseusingfoodasmedicineandamindbodyspiritapproachtohealth.She'strulyoneofthehappiest,calmest,mostjoyfulpeopleIknowaswellasbeingabestsellingauthor,aTVshowhost,amomofadorablelittleboy,andshe'ssuperpassionateabouthelpingeveryonetohealtheiradrenals,theirthyroid,andtheirnervoussysteminthemostholisticway.Andwe'regoingtodeepdiveespeciallyinthelastpartofthat,thenervoussystem,today.So,Christa,welcomeandthanksforbeinghere.

Christa:Oh,thankyouforthatwarmwelcome,Katie.Ialwayslovebeingwithyou.

Katie:Likewise.YouhavesomuchtoteachandIlovethisnew...I'vegottenalittlebitofapreviewandIwanttogodeeponittoday...thiswholenewareathatyou'vebeenreallydeepdivinginto.Andyousaythatthemajorityofusarelivingoffofstresshormones,andwe'renotevenawareofit.Sofirstofall,howdoweknow


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ifthat'susandexplaintouswhatthesestresshormonesareandwhat'shappeninginourbodyinthatsituation?

Christa:Sure.Yeah.Youknow,well,so,somanytimesthatwe'vetalked,I'vesaid,"Alldiseasebeginsinthegut,"youknow,overandoveragain.Butnowmyresearchovertheselastthreeorfouryearsreallyshowsthatthenervoussystemisthefoundationofallhealth.It'slikethefoundationofourhouseandeverythingelseisbuiltuponthat.Andsothere'sovertsignsthatwe'relivingoffofstresshormones,andthebiggestsignischronicanxietyandinsomnia,feelingsofbeinggovernedbyfearandoverwhelmed.Thosearetelltalesignsthatwe'relivingoffthestresshormones.Soifyouwakeupbetween1:00and4:00a.m.andyourheartispounding,areyoureadytostartthedayoryouwakeupveryearlyinthemorningwithyourheartpounding,that'sasign.Butexhaustioncanalsobeasignandthyroidissues.

Imean,ifyouhaveanymannerofthyroidissueswhatsoever,thenervoussystemisoff.Thingslikelosingyourmemory,youknow,becausethebrainissoaffectedandreallylosingevensensationbecausethenervoussystem,it'severywhere,it'sconnected.Sothoseareovertsymptoms.Butthentheotherwayswecouldknowthatwe'relivingoffofstresshormones,whichitisn't,youknow,obvious,likeanxietyisreallytheinabilitytoloseweightnomatterwhatwedo,especiallyaroundthemiddleanddepression.Thosearekindoftelltalesignswhenyou'vebeenlivinginthiswayforareallylongtime.AndthevastmajoritywhatI'vedoneovermyresearch,youknow,throughalloftheseinterviewsandwedidabetagroupforthisnewprogramwehaveandwhatwe'vefiguredoutislike80%ofpeoplearelivinginthisstate.

Andsoitmightnotbebecauseofsomethingthathappenednow,itcouldbeastressorortraumathathappenedinchildhood.Youknow,thiscanbe30or40yearsagothatyouflippedintolivinginyourstress,adaptivenervoussystem.Andthatbecameyourwayofliving.Somepeopleinadvertentlyputthemselvesintothatstatebydoingoverdoingitwithintermittentfastingorstayingonaketogenicdietforareallylongtime.Becausewhathappensis,whenwe'restressed,wereleasestresshormone.Wereleaseadrenalinefirstandcortisolsecond.Andthejobofthestresshormoneistomobilizeenergyintheformofglycogen.Sowehavebackupenergystoreslikegeneratorsofglycogeninourliverandourmuscletissuefortimeswhenthere'snoavailableenergyreserve.Soifwewerestrandedonadesertedislandandtherewasn'tmuchfood,yourbodyisgoingtostarttousetheketones,andfatfirstandproteinsecond,andit'sgoingtousewhateverstoredglycogenhasbeenintheliverandthemuscletissues.

Andsowhenyouburnthroughthat,whichmostpeoplehavenobackup,theirgeneratorsarelonggonefromdecadesago,nowthebodybeginsreleasingexcesscortisol.Sonowyou'reinthatstate,yourbodydoesn'tknowyou'renotstrandedonadesertedisland,andfoodisavailablebutnowit'sbreakingproteinintofattyacids.Andit'stryingtoconvertglucoseforenergy.Andsointheintheshort-term,thisishelpfulandit'snecessary.It'sastressadaptive,normalsurvivalmechanism.Buttheproblemstartsisbecausewhenwemakethisourday-to-dayfunction.Andthentheonlywaythebodyisabletousefatandproteinasenergyisthroughthereleaseofstresshormones.It'stheconversionprocess.Sothat'sgoingtokeepuslockedinthisviciouscycleofchronicbreakdownandinflammation.Makesense?


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Katie:Yeah,itdoesmakesense.Andyeah,Ithinkyou'resoright.Ifeellikeallofthosefactorswereprettymuchlikeinthemodernworld,oranyofusevergettingoutofthatsympatheticnervousstateorgettingintoparasympathetic.Wearejustlike,go,go,goallthetime.

Christa:Yeah,yeah.Andsoright.It'salsoourmodernsociety.Andit's,youknow,oneofthequestionsonourquestionnairesisdoyouhavemorethanonechildandhaveyouhad...youknow,ittakestwoyearsfortheadrenalistorecoverinbetweenbirthingachild.That'sthegreatestjourneyyourbodyevergoesthrough,istocreateahumanlifeand,youknow,whenyou'vehadmultiplechildrenandnowyou'redealingwithbusinessesandmodernlifeisliketechnology,we'reconnected24/7anditjustkeepsuslivinginthatstate.Sotoyourpoint,wehavetobecomecounterculturaltoliveabalancedlifeintoday'sworld.

Katie:Thatmakessense.Sowhenyoustartedreallydelvingintothis,whatwereyoustartingtouncoversomeofthewayswecanstartunpackinganddealingwiththesestresshormones?

Christa:Yeah.Whatyouhavetowhatyouhavetodoisyouhavetoaddressallofthesametimebecausethe…weknow,functionalmedicinethebodyisthisonesystemicinterconnectedunitandsothethyroidandtheadrenalsareateam.Andwhat'shappeningiswhenyourbodygetsputinthisstateofadrenalinsufficiency,thereleaseofstresshormonesincrease.Itshutsdownthefunctionofyourthyroid,tellingittolowermetabolismanditleavesusstuckinthisnozone,sotospeak.Andnowyou'rejustlivinginwhat'scalledsympatheticdominance.Sofight,flightorfreezedominance.Andsotobeable,whatwehavetodoiswehavetoshutoffthefight,flightorfreezenervoussystemandclickpeopleoverintoparasympathetic,whichisrest,digestandheal.AndsowehaveasixpillarAdrenalReCodephilosophy,ifyouwill,sixpillarapproachandwereallyhavetodo,inthisapproach,weessentiallydoforyourbodywhatit'sunabletodoforitselfandthat'sregulatebloodsugarandproduceandconvertenergy.

Andweknowthethyroidandtheadrenalaresoresponsibleforthat.Andthatprovides,youknow,thisconstantsafehealingwithinthenervoussystemandgetsthebrainworkingagain.Sowhatwedoisweprovidethebodywitheasytodigestproteins,wecallthemmetabolicproteins.Andsoifyou'regoingtoeatmusclemeat,thenwehavetohavealittlebitofbrothorsomecollagenandtohelpdigestmusclemeatbecausepeoplethatareinthiscompromisednervoussystemplace,they'renotgoingtobeablethey'regoingtofindmusclemeatsaregoingtobealittlebitinflammatorytothem.Sohavingthebrothorhavingthecalledinwithmusclemeatisgoingtocutdowntheinflammatorypotentialandit'sgoingtobeeasytodigest,butwereallyratherfavorifyoucantoleratethem,eggsandshellfishandlow-fatwhitefish.Thesearesomeoftheeasiestproteinstodigestaswellasorganmeats,whicharejuststraightenergyforthebodyifyoucanpalatethem.

Andthenwe'reusingcarbohydratesandfatstoprovidethebodyfirstthesugaritneedstoquietdownthoseadrenalglands.Andsomanypeoplearenoteatingenoughoftherighttypesofcarbs.Andwe'vebeentrainedtobeafraidofcarbs,thatthey'regoingtocauseweightgain,butyoucannothealandyoucannotgetoutofthestateunlessyouareeatingrootsandfruits.Thosearethetwocarbohydratesthatwewantpeopletofocusontobeabletoshutoffthatnervoussystemresponseandfeedthethyroidinstantly.Sonowyou'retaking


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careoftheadrenalsandthyroidsoyoucanclickoverintothatsympatheticnervoussystem.Andthenweusefattoslowdownthebreakdownofcarbohydrates.Andwhatwe'refindingandwe'retakingalargegroupthroughthisprocessnowisthatmostpeople,ifyouaskthem,theythink,"Oh,yeah,Idon'tneedthatmuchfat,"butnowwe'rehavingeverybodytrackitandtheyrealizeit50%to70%oftheircaloriesarecomingfromfatandit'scompletelyinadvertent,right?Andso,helpingthemfindthebalanceishelpingthemregulatebloodsugar,increasingtheirbody'sabilitytoproduceandconvertenergy.Sothosearethetwothingsthatwereallywanttofocuson.

Katie:Ithinkthat'ssoimportant,especiallyforwomen,becausethere'sbeenrightnow.There'sthishugesurgeinpopularityaboutketoorverylowcarbpaleo,andI'mverymuchIbelievewecanlearnfromsomethingfromeveryapproach.Andthere'swisdominlike,piecesofwisdomyoucanpullfromalmostanythinginlife.ButIthinkthisisanimportantthing,especiallyforwomen,becausesomanyofthepeoplelisteningjust,likeyousaid,areinchildbearingage.Soeitherthey're,youknow,havingmonthlyhormonefluctuationsduetojusttheirmenstrualcycle,orthey'repregnantorbreastfeedingorhavebeenandarestillrecoveringfromthatandIthinkthat'ssoimportant.Likecanyougoalittlebitdeeperonthatandjustexplainingwhylikeisthereatimeandaplaceforlowcarbforwomenorisit…dowereallyneedtomakesurewe'recognizantofjusttherightkindsofcarbsandgettingthemintherightamounts?

Christa:Yeah,Iactuallydon'tthinkthereisaplaceforlowcarbwithwomen,especiallyofchildbearingage.And,youknow,whatwe'lltalkabout.We'redoingrealtimeassessments,mealtomealassessmentsforeachindividualsotheycanseehowthefoodsareworkingfororagainstthem.AndthisistheonlyprogramI'veeverdonewhereyoucanfullyexecuteitbeingpregnantornursing,whichisgreat.Andwhatwe'refindingis,youknow,theyneedtoeatalmost50%carbs,25%protein,25%fatinordertomeettheneedsofthecell,right?Becausebeingofchildbearingageandhavingchildren,inordertogeneratecellularenergy,youneedthreethingsinsideofyourcell,youneedglucose,youneedoxygen,andyouneedthyroidhormone.AndwhattheproblemisalotofwomenandIknowyou'vetalkedaboutthyroidsomuchasthey'renotabletoconvertT4intoT3,inactivethyroidhormoneintoactivethyroidhormone.It'slike,okay,sowehavetohelpthem.Carbohydrateisgoingtohelpthemdotheconversionandthenkindofrevtheenergyinthecellandboostmitochondria.Soit'sgoingtobereallyimportanttoworkwithsynergisticfoods,youknow,thatreallykindofallworktogether.Doesthatansweryourquestion?

Katie:Itdoes.AndIfoundsomethinglikerelatedtothisthatIwassurprisedeveninmyself.LikeI'mconstantlyinthehealthdataandresearch.AndwhenIactuallymetwithlikeacoachandanutritionist,IrealizedIwasactuallynoteatingenough,whichIthinkisanothertrapthatwomencanfallintothatIwaslikesobusythatIjustactuallywasn'tgettingenoughcalorieseveryday,whichalsosendsstresssignalstothebody,especiallyifyou'renotgettingenoughprotein.Youmentionedmetabolicproteins,butcanyouspeaktothatalittlebitbecauseIfeellikesomanywomenfallinthattrapoftheywanttoloseweight,sotheyjusteatlessandlessandlessandlessandwhatthatdoestothebody?

Christa:Yeah,it'saterriblethingyoucandoforyourbodythat'sworkingsohardforyouandit'slikethat'sanotheroneofourmajorpillarsisfoodfrequency.Andsopeople,they'renoteatingenoughfood,butthey'realsonoteatingfrequentlyenough.There'sthistrendtowardseatingonlyafewtimesaday.Andsoifyou


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thinkaboutwhat'shappened,thischaotichormonalwhirlpoolthatisjustyou'releachingyourbodyofvitaminsandminerals,andit'sthiscrazy...likeit'sawhirlpool,right?It'sgotalifeofitsown.Theonlywaytogetyououtofitistoconstantlyinterruptthatpattern.Andsousingfoodfrequencyistheonlywaytocauseapatterninterrupttoslowlystartshiftingthat,youknow,ferociouswaterandstartgettingitbacktheotherway.Andyes,we'refindingthatwomenarevastlyunder-eatingprotein.

Andsoreallymakingsurethatyouusethatprotein.Like,youreallyshouldjustalwaysfocusthatyoushouldnevereatamealthatdoesn'thaveproteins,carbs,andfats,likeamealorasnack.Andsoifyoucanmakesureeverytimeyoueatthatyou'reneverjustgoingtohaveapieceoffruitorapieceofchickenoranavocado,right?Youmayhavetomakesurethatyouhavethemalltogetherbecauseofthewaythattheyworksynergistically.Andweworkwithpeopletohelpthemcustomize.Okay,yes,maybeyou'reundereatingprotein,butbyhowmuch?Likehowcanyourownbodytellustheexactamountyouneednowtoheal?And,youknow,westartoffusinghigheramountsofcarbstoheal.Andespeciallythemorechildrenyou'vehad,themorestressyou'reunder.Youknow,sugaristheantidotetostress,sotospeak,inlikecrazysimplificationterms.Wedon'twantpeopleeatingthewhitestuff.Butthemorestressyou'reunder,themorehealthycarbsyouneedtoshutoffthestressresponseandcreateasafetywithinthebody.Soit'sthisconstantinterruptionof,okay,let'sinterruptthepatternbydoingmorefoodfrequency,andit'swhereveryouarenow.

Soyoucan'ttakesomeonewho'sbeenintermittentfastingandonketoandthey'reeatingonceortwiceadayandhavethemeatsixtimesaday,they'llgainatonofweight,right?Soit'sgottobereallyslow.Andso,okay,let'sjustaddoneextrameal.Anditcouldbeasmallermeal.Soyou'renotincreasingthefoodquantity,sotospeak,butyou'reincreasingthefrequency.Andyou'vegottoreallyworkwiththebodyandletittellyouhowtostarttomakethisshift.Andifyouhaven'tbeeneatinganycarbsforawhile,youstartwithtwotablespoons,andthenyouworkuptofourtablespoonswitheverytimeyou'reeating.Becausesomanypeople,theirbodieshavecompletelyforgottenhowtometabolizecarbs.Sotheycomeintoastrategylikethisandtheysay,"Oh,Iateaccordingto,youknow,yourmealplanandIgainedweight,soI'mgoingtoquit.Itmustnotworkforme."

No,itmeansit'sexactlywhatyouneedbecauseyourbodyhasnoideawhattodowithcarbohydratesanymore,andwehavetohealitandteachitthatthesearehealthyfoods.It'stheonlywaywe'regoingtorefillthoseglycogenstores.Andthat'stheonlywayyou'regoingtocreateresiliencetostressbecausewe'rekindofwalkingaroundinthisworldfulloffragilepeoplethathavenoresilienceandnoreserves.Andthisisawaytobuildthosereserves.Now,allofasudden,thethingsthatusedtoreallystressyouout,right,yourchildrenandthejobandthethingsaroundthehouse,finances,allofthat,those,youstarttorealize,thosearetargetsofstressbutthey'renottheactualstressor.Becausewhenyoucanhealandquietthenervoussystemandbuildupreserves,you'remuchbetterabletohandlethetargetsofstress,sotospeak.

Katie:Yeah,itmakessense.AndIthinkyou'reright,aslongasyoufocusontherighttypesofcarbs.Itmaybelike...Iknowwe'vetalkedaboutthisonapreviouspodcast,butwhywomencrave,forinstance,chocolatewhenthey'restressed,becausetherearethenaturalcarbs,there'salsoantioxidants,andthenthere'smagnesiumwhichareallthingsthatarepartofthatequation.Butwhatabouttheweightlossaspectthough?BecauseIknowthatisaconcernforalotofwomenandwomendon'twanttogainweight.Soisthis


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somethingthatovertimehasanetpositiveeffect?Isitpossibletohealthebodyinawaythatitthenlet'sgoofweightaswell?

Christa:Oh,yeah,1,000%.Andwe'vegotpeoplethathavelostto12to15poundswithinthefirstweekofbeingontheAdrenalReCode,orwithinthefirsttwoweeks.Andthenwe'vegot,youknow,peoplewhoarecominginunderweight,afraidtoloseweight.Butthebeautifulthingisyouknow,yougivethebodywhatitneedsitwillhealitself.Soifyouneedtoloseweight,youloseit.Ifyouneedtogainweight,youwillgainitbecausethisisacompletemetabolicresetandweletthebodydowhatitneedstodotocreatebalance.

Andso,youknow,we'rehearingmyriadthingsfrompeoplewho,youknow,they'vebeenonketoforyearsandtheycouldn'tlosethatstubbornbellyfat.Well,howcouldyoubecauseyou'rekeepingyourselflockedinfightorflightandnowtheirbodiesfinallysafeenoughtoreleasethatweight.Andthenthere'stheoppositeendofpeoplewhohavehadotherissuesandthey'reafraidtoloseweight,they'reabletogainitintherightway,inthehealthyway.Andthat'sjust,youknow,byhavingthethyroidcomebackonline.It'sthemetabolicregulatorofthebodyandit'sgonnaregulateyourweightupordownhoweveryouneedit.

Katie:Gotit.Andaretheresomefoodsthat...Iknowyoumentionedafewalready...butthatareespeciallysynergisticandhopefulforthenervoussystemspecificallythatwomencanyouknowthinkaboutandfocusonwhenthey'retryingtodothisrehabilitation?

Christa:Yeah,forsure.Andsowhenwethinkaboutthesymptomsthatareassociatedwiththenervoussystemwethinkanxiety,frustration,theinabilitytorecoverfromstressandsothere'smicronutrientsthatareneededinhigheramountsandforthenervoussystemandthat'slikefoodsthatarehighinalphalipoicacid,electrolytes,iron,lecithin,manganese,melatonin,phosphatidylserineisjustamazing.That'sasupplementIrecommendformostpeoplehealingbecauseitdoesamazingthingstohelpremyelinatethemyelinsheathwhichistheelectricalinsulatoroutofournervecells.Lotofus,that'sfrayed.We'vebeenlivinginthiswayforawhile.AndthenallyouneedfoodsthatarehigherinallyourfatsolublevitaminsA,D,EandK,vitaminCandzinc.

Sothefoodsthatarehighinallofthosemicronutrientsthatwereallyneedtohealournervoussystem,avocados,bananas,bonebroth,carrots,cherries,coconutwater,collagen,leafygreensinmoderation,andwelikeyoutohavethemcookedwhenyou'rehealingversusraw,liver,organmeats,otherorganmeats,allthemitochondriaisintheheart.Ifyoucanmakeahealthymeatloafoutofthat,youcanfocusonoysters,sunflowerseeds,salmon.Welovethetropicalfruits,whichsomanypeoplestayawayfrombecausethey'rehighglycemicbutthey'reactuallyawonderfullyhealingsupportivefoodwhencombinedwithproteinandfat.Theyworkwonders.

Katie:Gotit.Itsoundsdelicioustoo.


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Christa:Yeah.Andtherearefoodsthat's,youknow,alotofpeoplehavealreadybeeneating.It'sjustlearningtoeatthemmorestrategically,right?Imean,somanyofyourlistenershavebeeneatinghealthyforareallylongtimeandthiscouldjustbemakingsomesubtleshifts.

Katie:Absolutely.Andyoumentionedalsothatoftenpeopleareovereatingfatswithoutrealizingit.AndIthinkthismaybeespeciallyproblematicrightnowbecauseketoissofatheavy.Butcanyouspeakmoretothisoflike,whatdoesanidealfatratiolooklikeonaverage?Iknoweveryoneisdifferent.Butonaverageforawoman,especiallyinchildbearingyears,howmuchandwhatkindshouldwebefocusingon?

Christa:Well,okay,I'mgoingtoexplainwithtwopillarsbecauseIwantpeopletounderstandhowtheycanreallycustomize.AndsowiththefourthpillarofourAdrenalReCodestrategyisthetargeteduseofsaturatedfattoprotectthenervoussystem.Sowe'llusespecifictypesandratiosofsaturatedfatstoheal.Sowhatwearedoingtohelppeoplehealisusing50%saturatedfat,45%monounsaturatedfat,andonly5%polyunsaturatedfats.Sothesaturatedfatisexactlywhatweneedtohelpthecellrecoverfrompasttraumaandtoinsulateitagainstfuturetraumaandthatthisfatissolublevitamins.Sothisiswhywhenwementionedtheorganmeatsandwementionedthings,let'ssay,likecoconutoil,orghee,orgrassfedbutterand,youknow,we'refocusingonthesesaturatedfatstoprovideprotectionandrejuvenationtothenervecells.Westillusethemsparinglybutbyfocusingonsaturatedfat,wecanprotectfragilenervecellsfromtoxicinvasion.Becausewhenyouthinkofafatmolecule,it'sachainofcarbonandithashydrogenattachedonallendsandthat'sasaturatedfatmolecule.

Butwhenwemovetothemonounsaturated,youhaveafew...itdoesn'thaveattachmentsofhydrogenonallends.Andso45%monolikeoliveoil,avocados,avocadooil.Butwhenwemovetopolyunsaturatedfats,whicharemostlythenutsandtheseedsandallthosepooroilswegetintherestaurant,youknow,canolaoil,you'rereallymissingalotofhydrogenbondsthere.Andsothat'screatingalotofinstabilityinanalreadyfragilebody.Andyoucan'tbasicallyleaveemptyseatsatthetable,sotospeak,becausewiththesaturatedfats,weknowexactlywhatwe'regetting.It'scoveredonallsides.Andsothat'sthekindofthewholebalancethatweneedtoheal.Butinordertotellwomenhowmuchfattheyneedtobeeating,weusecustomizedrealtimeassessmentstohelpthemfigureouttheirspecificmacronutrientratiosthattheyneed.

AndsowhenIsaythat,we'reusingtemperatureandpulse.Takingtemperatureandpulsetosee,okay,howmuchthyroidhormoneisavailableinthecell?Temperatureandpulseisgoingtotellusexactlywhat'sgoingonwithyourcortisolrhythmswithyourinflammationsetpoint.It'sgoingtotellusalotofthesethingsthatisactuallybetterthanlabworkbecauselabworkisgoingtobethissnapshotintimeofwhat'shappening.Butusingtemperatureandpulse,youknow,obviously,youtakeyourlabwork,it'slike,great,Itotallyunderstandhowdepletedthispersonis.Butnowweusetemperatureandpulseasrealtimefeedback.Sowe'lllookattemperatureandpulsefirstthinginthemorning,20minutesafterbreakfast,20minutesafterlunchandbeforebed.Andnowyou'reputtingtogetherthesemealsandyou'retakingyourtemperatureandpulseandyou'relookingforittobewithinaspecificrange.Andifit'snot,that'swhenyousay,"Okay,let'slookatthis.Okay,soyouhavetoomuchfat,notenoughcarbohydrates,youweren'tabletomeettheneedsofyourcell."Sodoesthatmakesensehowwe'remanipulatingitbasicallyfourtimesaday?


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Katie:Yeah,itmakessense.AndIlovethatit'sinrealtimeandpersonalizedbecauseIknowthisissomethingyouandIhavetalkedaboutpersonallybefore.Butmoreandmorerightnow,themoreIresearched,themoreIrealizedthatthatseemstoverymuchbethefutureofhealthandespeciallyrootcausehealthisfiguringoutyourpersonalized,customized,what'sgoingtoworkforyou.AndIlookatsomanydifferentapproachesinthehealthworldandI'vekindofgottentoapointofthinkinglike,"Whatifeverybodyisalittlebitright?Likewhatifeverybodyfoundthethingthatworksforthem,butthat'snecessarilythedogmathatdidn'tneedstoworkforeverybody?Andhowcanwelearnfromthewisdomofeachofthesepeople,butfindandwhatworksforusandforourownbody?"SoIthinkI'vebecomemuchlessdogmaticlatelyandmoredefinitelytrendingtowardsthepersonalization.SoIlovethis,like,havingtoolsthatwecandoathomewithoutexpensivelabtestingthatcangiveusinsightintothebody.

Christa:Yeah,Icompletelyagree.Thisisthewaveofthefuture.Butyouknowwhatelsegoeswiththat,Katie?Istheabilitytotrusttheprocess,totrustyourownbodyandkindofthisinnerguru,right?Andit'sinterestingbecausewe'retakingthelargegroupthroughthisprocessrightnow.Andsomuchofitisthemindsetbecausethey'relookingforsomeoneelsetotellthemexactlywhattodo.Iwanttofollowthisplanexactly.Andit'sthisconstant,youknow,thingwherewe'reusedtogivingawayourpowertoallthesedifferentdietarytheoriesordogmasorpractitioners.Andsonowiskindofhunkeringdownandturningwithinandhavingthatself-trustthatyourbodywilltellyouexactlywhatitneeds.Sowe'rehavingpeopletunein.

Sobasically,thebodytemperatureandpulse,thoseareobjectiveassessments,butwe'rehavingthemreallylog,loggingsinceoxygenis33%ofthiswholething,right?Weneedoxygen,glucose,andthyroidhormoneinthecell.We'rehavingthemdoingmetabolicbreathing.We'rehavingthemsay,"Okay,howdidthatmealsettlewiththem?Whatwasgoingon?Howdidyoufeel?"Andthroughthetuningin,youknow,they'refinallystartingtorealize,"Oh,okay,Ihadthisreallystressfulafternoon.SoifIhadhadmorecarbs,Iwouldhavegottenthroughthatwithmoregrace."Andthat'sthebeautybecauseIthinkwe'vegiventoomuchpoweringeneraltotheobjective,right?Butwealsoneedthesubjective.Andwhenyoupairobjectiveandsubjectiveassessmentstogether,thatcreatesthewholepicture.Likeweneedartandsciencetocoexistpeacefully,right?

Katie:Absolutely.AndIthink,yeah,you'respeakingtosomethingsodeepandcoretowomen,especiallyinthemodernworldisthisfeelingatoddswithourbodies.Andwe'reconstantlybeingtoldbyprettymucheverymarketingmessageouttherethatourbodiesarewronginsomeway.Andsoit'sreallydifficultnottodevelopthisideathatourbodiesarenotenoughorthey'retoomuchofsomethingortheydon'tfitthemold.AndsoIthinksomanywomenandmyselfincludedthroughoutalotofmylifefeellikewe'refightingourbodies.Andhowcanyoubeatpeaceandhealwhenyou'refightingtheverythingthatyouare.AndIthinkthat'ssuchacoredeep,deepthingforso,somanywomen,especiallyifthere'strauma,butevenifthere'snotjustthisconstantmessageofnotbeingenough.AndsoIthinkyou'resorighttospeaktothatbothphysicallygivingthebodywhatitneedstonourishandhealandactuallynothavethosestresshormonessowecanfeelmoreatpeaceinourbodies,butthenalsotorealizethatthat'swhatwe'refacingandtogettoaplaceofloveofourownbodyandrealizingwhatitcandoversusfightingitandconstantlyfeelinglikeit'snotgoodenough.


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Christa:Exactly,yes,theself-loveisjustsorequired.SotheAdrenalReCodethiswholeprocess,partoneisallofthisphysiologicalrepatterningandthehealingatthecellularlevelandthenourishingofthecellsinthethyroidandthenervoussystem.Butparttwoisthisemotionalre-patterningbecauseifyoucan'tcompletethehealingunlessyoudotheemotionalre-patterning,right,becauseit'sthesamething.We'restuckinthishabit,whetherifsomekindofself-loathingorjudgmentofourbodyorany...younameit,right?YounamethebeliefsystemIdon'tfeelXenough,whateverthatis.Andsoit'slikewecandoallthephysicalhealing.Butifwedon'tdothismentalemotionalre-patterningbecauseweknowsciencehasfullyproventhatourthoughtscreateouremotionsandouremotionsdirectlyreflectourbiology,youknow,theydirectlyaffectitsoyoucan,withyourthoughtsandyouremotions,right,putyourselfrightbackinthisstate.Soweworktooemotionallyre-patternaswell,youknow,dismantlinglimitingbeliefsystemsandkindofgoingthroughthatwholething.SoIfindthatthat'swhat'smostimportantforcomprehensivehealing.

Katie:You'vealsomentionedbreathinpassing,andI'dlovetogodeeperonthispillaroftheideaofbreathandmovementbecauseIthinkanotherthingthat'sgottensodisorderedforalotofusisjustmovementingeneralandthinkingitalwayshastobeexercisedanditalwayshastobedepletingandwehavetogo,go,go.AndthiswassomethingthatreallystruckhomeformeforthefirsttimeIthinkinmyadultlife.Recently,IwasonatriptoFinlandactuallywithagroupandoneofthem,oneofthepeoplethereisinthefitnessworld,buthiswholefocusisgettingpeoplebacktolikeplayintomovementthat'sactuallyfun.AndIrealizedIhadn'tthoughtofmovementlikethatin15years.Anditwasreallystartingtorealize.AndsoI'dloveforyoutospeaktohowbothbreathandmovementcannourishthebodyversusbeingsomethingweneedtolikedoonachecklisttostayinshape,buthowthoseinteractwithournervoussystemandourhormones.

Christa:Forsure.Yes.Soifwecouldjusthavethatpermissionsliptogohavefun,right?Thisislikeweallneedthat.Thebreathissoimportant.Imean,thebreathistheremotecontrolofthebrainandthenervoussystemandit'salwayswithusandit'soneofourbesttools.Butclinically,youknow,oxygenisfoodforyourcells.Youneedoxygen,glucose,andthyroidhormoneinordertocreateandproduceandconvertenergy,andsoit'snotreallylikeanoption.It'sanecessitythatwestarttodeepbreathealittledeeper.Andsoit'salsothemostgentledetoxifying.Andsothoseofusthatareinadrenalfatigue,we'vegotcompromisedthyroidfunction,weneedmoreoxygeninordertobeabletoconvertourfoodintofueland,youknow,tobeabletocreateenergy.We'reoftentoofragiletodothesecrazydetoxes.It'sjustoxygenthatweneedtohelpusdetoxifygentlyandsafely.

SowesayifwecanReCodethewaythatwebreathe,andthisisinIcallthemparasympatheticmoments,youknow,throughouttheday,butwealsousemetabolicbreathinganddiaphragmaticbreathingandalternatenostrilbreathing.Idon'tknowifyou'veeverheardofthat.It'sayogicbreaththatit'sjustfiveminutes,youknow,withalternatenostrils.Fiveminutesofthatcanjustclickyourightintoyourparasympatheticnervoussystem,geltheleftandright-handhemisphereofthebrain,calmandquieteverything.It'sthesinglebestbreathingtechniqueforanxietyandbreathingisoneofthebestthingsyoucandoforenergylevels,mooddigestion,youknow,inasenseofpeace.Sowereallyunderutilizeit.Butthenthisoversittingproblemthatwehave,youknow,createshipflexorsandatightpsoas.Andsowecallthehipsandthepsoasthejunkdrawersofemotionalstorageandsoyougetthosereallytight.Andsoifyouhaveatighthipflexorsandtightpsoas,itforcesthereverberatoryeffectsinthebreath.Itcausesshallowbreathingevenifyou'renottryingto,itre-patternsyourbreathingtoanunhealthywaythatkeepsyoustuckinsympatheticnervoussystem.


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SowehavetomovebutreallyI'mahugefanofyoga.Iusedtoteachitandpracticeforover20years.There'ssomanydifferentkindsandtypestoreallyopenupandfreethebodyandhelpthecerebralspinalfluidfloweasiersoitcannourishthenervoussystem.Andsowe'rewithourrecoders,sotospeak.Youknow,we'rehavingthemdoyogaandjustwalkingandfoamrolling.It'soneofthebestthingsthatyoucandoforyourselftoreleasethefasciaandhelptheenergyflowwithinyourbody.SoIdon'tthinkweneedtodoallthissuperhardcoreexercise.Youjusthavetoknow.

Andthisiswe'reusingtemperatureandpulse."Okay,well,doesitworkforyou?"We'vegotalotofpeopleintheAdrenalReCode,theysay,"I'mamarathonrunner,"or,"I'matriathlete.CanIstillkeepupthishighlevelofintenseexercise?"Andwesay...so,again,we'reputtingitbackonthem.Yourlogswilltellusifthisiskeepingyoulockedinstressornot.Andyouknowhowtoadjustyourdietaccordingly.AndsoIthinkyou'rereallyontoitwhenit'slikelistentoyourbodyanddothemovementwhereyoufeelgoodafter.Ifyouexerciseandyoufeellikeyouneedtositonthecouchforacoupleofhoursafter,it'swaytoointenseandit'skeepingyoulockedinthatthatfightorflightstate.

Katie:Yeah,that'sagoodbarometer.Andforsomanywomen,thatmightbeliketheycanruntriathlonsjustfine,ifthat'swhatthey'reusedtoandtheirbodycanhandleit.Whereasforothers,you'reright,itmaystartwithsomethingvery,verygentlelikejustgentlemovement.You'llgowalking,etc.,andbreathing.Andhowoftenweunderestimatethosesimplethingslikejustthepowerofcalmbreathing?IknowIsawonestudythatevenjustsixdeepbreathsinarowthatareintentionalandslow,couldreducebloodpressure,reducestresshormones,andhaveanoticeablechangeinthebrain.Andit'sfreeandoftendoweignorethat.

Christa:Right.It'seasy.It'sfree.It'salwayswithyou.Andit'slikeit'snicetojustputlittlestickynotesarounditortoremindyourselfinyourcar,inyouroffice,onyourbathroommirrorjustbreath.Itjustworkswonders.

Katie:Yeah,absolutelyandIlovethat.Ifeellikethephysicalpartissoimportant.Butit'salsolike,you'vesaidbefore,it'sonlysuchasmallpartoftheequationinsomeways.

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Katie:AndyouandIhavetalkedaboutinpersonalot,buttheemotionalsideandhowtokeepthatpartincheck.AndIfeellikeforsomanypeople,especiallymaybeforwomen,theemotionsaretrulythebattle.AndIheardaboutthisrecentlythatlikeit'sforme,likemyownstressormyownself-doubtorsomeofthetoughestopponentsI'veeverhadtoface.Soyeah,I'dlovetotalkabouttheemotionalsideandwhatthat'sabouthowwecanletgoofsomeoftheseemotionallayerssothatwecangiveourbodyachancetoheal.

Christa:Yes,exactly.Thankyousomuchforbringingthatup.Iwouldliketokindof,youknow,prefacethisofcreating.Thiswaskindofanecessity,asthemotherofinventionthingforme.Alotofpeoplehavebeenthroughalotintheirlivesandthrough,youknow,openinguptheAdrenalReCodewe'veheardsomereallywildstories.AndIwentthroughanintenseexperiencewhichyouknowallaboutinthatIfiledfordivorceandalsoarestrainingorderwhenIwasaboutamonthpregnantanditwasthemoststressfulsituationIhadeverbeenin.AndIhadtofindawaythoughweknowhowbaditisfordevelopingfetustoincubateinabodyfullofstresshormones.SotherewasnowayIwasgonnaletmysonincubatethatway.LikeIhadtofindawaytoelevateabovetheemotionemotionallyandtobeabletoliveinmyparasympatheticnervoussystembecausemyexternalexperienceoflifewasn'tgoingtochangeanytimesoon,right?

Youdon'tjustgetdivorcedinamonth.Ittakesawhile.Thewholethingtakesawhileandthere'ssomanypeoplethathavebeenthroughsomanydifferenttypesofcircumstances.Younameit.Whetherit'schildhoodtraumaorgrieforlossordivorceorrelationshiptroubles,troubleswiththeirchildren,financialhardship.Youknow,thesearethethingswherethey'renotgoingtochangemaybeanytimesoonbutsowewanttobeabletohealthephysicalaspectandnowtheemotionalaspect.WehavetobeabletoemotionallyReCodeandbuildresiliencetheresothatwecanreallyrespondtolifefromthecurrentsituationthat'shappeninginsteadofreactoutofpasttraumaorreactoutofthestory.AndsoparttwooftheAdrenalReCode,thebeginning,modulefour,isweidentifylimitingbeliefsystemsandwehelptostartexaminingthemordismantlingthem.


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Andsoalimitingbelieforbeliefingeneral,it'sjustsomethingthatweknowwithcertaintyandwealldevelopbeliefsbetweentheageofoneandseven,andweareegocentricatthisstage,right?Wedon'tknowanythingexceptfortheworldevolvingaroundus,sowethinkwhateverhappens,wemakemeaningoutofitspecifictous.Andso,let'ssay,suchasimplething,right?Like,yourdadcomeshomeafterworkeverydayandheplayswithyou.Andoneday,maybehegotfired,andhecomeshome,andhedoesn'tcomerightintoplaywithyou.He'supset.He'stalkingwithyourmother.Allofasudden,youcreateabeliefthatthere'ssomethingwrongwithyou.Likethat'showeasyandquickitcanhappenandithappenstoeverysinglehumanthatwedevelopabelief,youknow,inourowndeficiencybytheageofseven.

Andthenwhatwedoiswego…welookforwaystocreatemeaningoutofit.It'skindoflikeatabletop.Okay,well,atableneedslegs.Sowejuststartlookingforsituationswithintheworldtoprovethisbelieftrue.Andwemaydevelopthatasacompensationskill.Wemayneeditbutifwetakethisallthewaythroughtoouradultlife,it'sgoingtohavealotofeffectsonourlifethat,youknow,they'renothelpful.Andsowhatwedoiswetakeyouthroughthisprocesstoreallystarttoidentifywhattheselimitingbeliefsare.AndTonyRobbinsgoesthroughthesixhumanneeds.It'slikelove,connection,safety,belonging,self-esteem.Thesearethingseveryhumanbeinghasaneedforandwealldevelopdeficienciesinthem.Andwekindofcarrythemthroughoutlifeandweignorethem.We'renotconsciousofthem.Wedon'tknowthatthisisacomputerprogramthat'srunningus.Andsowhatwehavetodofirstisbringawarenesstothem,beabletoidentifytheselimitingbeliefsandthenwecanstarttoask,"Okay,aretheyreallytrue?"Areyouwithmesofar?

Katie:Yeah.Absolutely.

Christa:Okay.SosinceIstartedwithmypersonalstory,I'llsaythatIhadthebelief.Mybrotherwasprettysickasachild.Hehadmeningitiswhenhewasfiveanditdamagedthefrontallobeofhisbrain,andthatledto,youknow,epilepticseizuresandallkindsoftubalearinfectionsandthingslikethat,andlaterdrugandalcoholaddictionandcriminalactivity.Andsoasachild,youknow,asI'mwitnessingthis,hewasmyolderbrother.It'snotlikeanyonetoldmebutIgotthemessage,"Okay.I'monmyown.IhavetodoeverythingbymyselfandIbetterjustbethegoodoneandbethepeoplepleaser,becausethere'sreallynoextraspace,youknow,Ican'tcauseanytroublehere."AndsoIdon'tknowthatIhavethisbeliefsystemright.AndthenI'mlivingmywholelifekindofgoingthroughthat,andthenIlaterproveittrueinmyadultlife.Iendupmarryinganaddictandthiswholecycle,IrecreatethecycleofchaosthatIhadinmyhomeeverysixweeks.Andendup,okay,nowI'mgoingtohavetobeafulltimesinglemomandsoleproviderandyouendupprovingittruebecauseit'sabeliefsystem.That'showpowerfulthesethingscanbethatwedon'tevenrealize.

Sonow,soI'vedonethisworkmyselftobeabletodismantlethatlimitingbelief,like,isitreallytrue?No.Anditcanstarttolookandseeallthewaysthatwe'resupported.Andifyoucanstarttoseehowtheoppositecanbetrue,youstartattractingalloftheopposite,theloveandthesupportandallofthosethings.Sowetakepeoplethroughaprocesstoidentifytheirlimitingbeliefsandbeabletorevolvethemanddismantlethem.Andthenextstepafterthatistakingradicalpersonalaccountabilityandresponsibilityforourentireexperienceoflife.


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AndIknowoneofthequestionsyouwanttoaskmeiswhatwasoneofmyfavoritebooksofalltimeandthemostinfluential?SoI'mgoingtoanswerthatnowandsaythatitwas"TheFourAgreements"byDonMiguelRuiz.Andhetalksinthatbookof,youknow,it'sallaboutpersonalaccountabilityandresponsibilityofspeakingwithintegrity,notmakingassumptions,nottakingthingspersonally.Andthisiseverythingthatweteachwithalifecoach,TonyRobbinslifecoach,andanemotionalmasterycoachaswellasmyself,kindof,takingpeoplethroughthisprocessbecausewhenyouunderstandthatpersonalaccountabilityisaspectrum,right?Likeimpasseattractsnarcissists,andpeoplepleasersattractmanipulators.Andthiswholething,yourealizethatyoudon'twanttobeoneithersideofthespectrum.Youwanttobeinthecenterlinewhereyoucanhave,youcantakerightpersonalaccountabilitytowhereyoudon'thavetocreateandattracttheoppositeexperienceanymore.Youcansetfirmboundariesandit'sadifferentexpressionofintegritythatyoucanlivewith.Andsokindofgoingfromthereoncewestarttounderstandthatandpracticethat.It'sanotherpatterninterruptaswe'repracticingitinourdaytodaylife,andIthinkalotofwomenneedthat.

AndIsaylike,howmanyofus,youknow,somebodybumpsintousinthegrocerystore,andwesaywe'resorry?Andtheseareways.It'slike,no,okay.Takingthatrightaccountabilityisalotofwomenweretrainedtobethesepeoplepleasers,butit'scomingmoretothemidlineandthenwhenwecandothat,itpullsusoutofvictimconsciousness,ormartyrdomoranythingwherewefeelsorryforourselvesinsteadofcompassion.They'recompletelydifferentenergy.Andthenfromthere,werelease,wesomaticallyreleasetrappednegativeemotionsfromthebody.BecauseIthinkyouhavetodoitsomatically,whichisreleasingthemfromthebodyversustalkingaboutthemwithmind.Andsowhenyoucandothat,thenyou'rereallyreadytomoveintoforgiveness.True,authentic,realforgivenessandthat'swhenyoucanafterthat,claimyourpowerandrevolveyourstoryandreallykindofsupplanttheseempoweringbeliefs,andhaveanewfuturegoingforward.

Andthat'skindoftheentiretyoftheReCode.That'swhywecallitrecodingbecauseyoureallyare.You'rephysicallyre-coding,teachingyourbodycompletelydifferentwaytoexistonthecellularlevel,whichyou'reemotionallyre-coding.Learninghowtorespondasyourtruepresentbest-selfversus,youknow,thepastself,thememorizedhabitualselfthatyoumaybedidn'tevenrealize,youknow,youhadthisfaultycomputerprogram.

Katie:Oh,echoyourrecommendationof"TheFourAgreements".Ithinkit'ssogood.Andweactuallyhave"TheFourAgreements"themselveswrittenoutinourhouse,anditissomethingwetalkedthroughwithourkidswhenthey'reupsetorourselveswhenasourparentswereupset.AndIlovethatyoukeepgoingbacktoresilient.Ithinkthat'ssokeyintoday'sworldwherewecanconstantly,likethere'ssomanytriggersinoursociety,thingswemightnotagreewithorthatcanbeupsettingorjuststressfulandeverythinginthenewsisalwaysstressful.Andgettingtoaplacewherewe'renotjustatthemercyoftheinputsthatweareconstantlyexposedtobutwecanchooseourresponse,whichIthinkisverymuchanexpressionoffreedomtobeabletogettothatpointwherewegettochoosehowwerespondinthosesituationsandnowthatyougettoforgiveness,too,istheultimatething.ThatwassomethingformeasanadultthatIhadtoworkthroughbecauseofsomepastexperiencesthatwerereallydifficult.AndIwantedtoholdontothatangerandjustthatgrudgeforsolong.AnditwasnotuntilIrealized,nottostepthroughthatforgivenessbutIrealizedhow


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muchfreedomisthere.AndIreadthequotethatreallyresonatedwithmethatforgivenessis"Whenyousetaprisonerfreeandrealizethattheprisonerwasyourself."

Christa:A100%.Youjustgavemechills.Yeah,orwecallit"Thefreeyourselfforgivenessexercise."It'sexactlywhatitis.Anditdoesn'tmeanthatyouneedtoletaformerperpetratorinyourlifeoranythinglikethat.It'sjustmeansInolongerchoosetocarryaroundpaininresponsetoyouractionsorsomeoneelse'sactionsorbehaviors,yeah.It'ssofreeingandthere'salsoaself-forgivenessprocessthatneedstohappen.Alotofusareallowingourselvestobetreatedacertainwayandthesetypesofthingsandthen,youknow,wehaveadaily,kindof,justdailyforgivenessafterthat.Justlike,youknow,youbrushyourteethatnightandjustkindofdailycleanup.

It'skindoflike,"Okay,isthereanythingIneedtoforgiveanyonefortodayorforgivemyselffor?"Itisfreeing.Butit'salmostlikeanexcavation.IfeelIkindofrelatethesecondpartoftheAdrenalReCodelikeasurgery.There'slikethefirstcutbecauseyoudon'tevenrealizethatyouhavetheselimitingbeliefsandthenthere'sthepersonalaccountabilitypiecethatcanbereallyhardforalotofpeoplethat'slikeremovingthetumor,sotospeak,andremovingthetrappednegativeemotions.Andthenit'ssealingitupwithforgivenessandthesoothingbalmandthenstartingtoworkonthepositive.Andthentheempoweringbeliefisthestitchesandthehealingandallthat,sothatyoucanthenmoveforwardreallycompletelyfree.It'samazing.Itgivesyouacompletelydifferentexperienceoflife.AndI'mdefinitelyatestamenttothatand,yeah,Ithinkit'saprocessforeveryhumantogothrough.

Katie:Absolutely.AndthatwasoneofthereasonsIwassoexcitedtohaveyouontodayandchatwithyoubecauseIthinkthat,likeIsaid,Ithinkwecanlearnsomethingfromalmostanysituation,anymodality,anyteacher,butIalsothinkthatoftenthere'slikeanincompletepictureandespeciallyforwomenandespeciallyanyonewhohasanykindoftrauma.Evennothavetobe,youknow,veryextremetrauma,butjustthesechildhoodtraumaslikeyoumentionedinthebeginningorbeliefsthatwerenotenough.AndsoI'veseensomanyprogramsthatarebrilliantandtheyfocusonthephysicalbuttheydon'tgetintouchwiththeemotionalwhichissoimportant,ortherapistandpeoplewhodelveintotheemotionalbutthenthey'renotreallytappingintothefactthatwestillactuallyneedtonourishourbody,especiallyifwe'regoingthroughemotionalprocess,whichisanincreasedphysicaldemandaswell.

AndsoIlovethatyouhaveseamlesslymarriedthetwoinawaythatreallyespeciallycanreachanyone,butespeciallywomen.BecauseIfullybelieveandIknowthatyoudotoo,butthatwomenandespeciallymothersarethemostpowerfulforceontheplanet,especiallywhenthey'renotoverwhelmedandstressed,andwhentheycancomefromaplaceofcalmandlove.AndIthinkthatwhenwegivewomenthosetools,wecanchangetheworldexponentially.SoIlovethatyouareunitingthosetwothingsandreallyhelpingpeopleonaverycoredeeplevel.Andforpeoplewhoarelisteningwhomaybethisresonatedwiththem,howcantheyfindoutmoreandstarttogodeeper?Iknowwe'llhavethelinkintheshownotes.Ofcourse,youguyscanfindthatatwellnessmama.fm.Buttalkalittlebitmoreabouttheprogramandhowitworks.


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Christa:Yeah,sure.SotheAdrenalReCodeprogramisaneight-weekprogram,andthefirst,youknow,youcomeintoitandwe'rejustworkingphysically.AndIjustwanttoechoeverythingyousayaboutwomenbeingthemostpowerfulforceintheworld.Butfirst,you'vegottobeabletocalmandquietthenervoussystemandgetsomeofthatphysicalhealing.Starttofeelyourenergycomingback,starttofeelyourweightcominginbalance,youknow,"Oh,allofasudden,thatwouldhavefrustratedme,butIdon'tfeelfrustrated."Youstarttobuildthatphysicalresilienceandbuildtheself-trustwithinthebody.Andthatkindofreallysetsthetenorforyoutobeabletothengointotheemotionalworkandtobeabletodotheemotionalre-patterningwithmuchmorepowerandmuchmoregrace.

So,yeah,wegiveyoubasicallyeverythingthatyouneedtosetyouupforsuccess.Andwe'vegotateamofcliniciansjustlikeI'vedonewithotherprogramsinGutThrive.Butthisissouniquethatthere'snotalotofpeopleevenunderstandhowtopracticethisway.Sowe'vehiredandtrained.I'vegotaclinicalpartnerwho'sallshedoesisjustworkforthelast15years.Andthenwehiredandtrainedateam,threeotherclinicians,integrativecliniciansthatcanhelpwithreviewingfoodlogsandreallysupporting,youknow,givingyouthisturnaroundtimewithin48hourstohelpyouunderstandtheprogram.Wegiveyoubaselinemeals,butit'sdifferentthananyprogramthatI'veeverdonebeforebecausethey'reallbaselines,themeals,thesnacks,thesamplemealplan.Buthowyourbodyisrespondingisthatthat'sthekey.That'showyoustarttoadjust.AndwithintheAdrenalReCodeprogram,we'vedoneanalgorithmiclikeassessment.

Sowekindofdistilledandweworkedonabetagroupwiththiswhereyoucomeinandwehavetoidentifythesensitivityofyournervoussystem.Soyou'llcomeinandyou'lltakethisalgorithmiclikeassessmentandyou'llbeputineitheratieroneortiertwo.Tiertwopeoplehaveamoresensitivenervoussystemandsotheirfoodsaregoingtobealittlebitmorerestrictivethefirstmonthbecausetheycan'tdigestthem.Becauseweknow,thefirstthingthathappenswhenwegetnervousisdigestiongoesonthefritz,andsowehavetojustcalmandquietandtonifytheirdigestivesystemsothattheycanhandlefoods.Andthenaftermonth,theyshouldbeabletostarteatingmorefoods.

Andsoit'sreallyslowandsteady,andwekindoftrainyouthatthere'ssomanypeopletheywanttodoitperfectlyrightaway.Youknow,someofourrecoders.Theysay,"IfeellikethisisatypeArecoveryprogram."Andit'slikethat'sexactlywhatitisbecauseifyouimplementeverythingrightaway,hey,youmayfeelawfulandyoumaygainweightoryoumay...Butifyou'velistenedtoyourbodyandyoudoagoodjobtuningin,yourbodyisgoingtotellyouhowfastorslowtogo.Andsointhebeginning,wehelpyoupacethatoutandthenit'sbeautiful.Peoplereallyarestartingtogetitnowthatthey'realmostamonthinandyoureallystarttonoticechange.Andthennowwe'removingintotheemotionalre-patterningportionwhereyougetsupportedbyadifferentsetofclinicians.Andthat'sit.It'saneight-weekprogram.Itdoesn'tmeanyou'regoingtobehealedcompletelyineightweeks,butyouwillhavethehangofitsowellineightweeksthatyou'llunderstandhowtoeatfortherestofyourlifetobeabletomanagestressnomatterwhatlifebrings.

Katie:Iloveit.Andofcourse,likeIsaid,therewillbealinkatwellnessmama.fm.YouguyscanfindthatandconnectwithChrista.Andalsodefinitelycheckouthermainsiteandherblog"TheWholeJourney"whichhasawealthofinformation.Christa,Iknowhowbusyyouarebothintheworkthatyoudoandnowasamom,andIappreciateyoutakingthetimetodaytoshareandtoteach.


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Christa:Thankyou.It'ssuchapleasuretobehere.

Katie:Andthankstoallofyouforsharingyourmostvaluableassetofyourtimewithustoday.Weappreciatethatanddon'ttakeitlightly,andIhopethatyouwilljoinmeagainonthenextepisodeofthe"WellnessMamaPodcast."

Ifyou'reenjoyingtheseinterviews,wouldyoupleasetaketwominutestoleavearatingorreviewoniTunesforme?Doingthishelpsmorepeopletofindthepodcast,whichmeansevenmoremomsandfamiliescouldbenefitfromtheinformation.Ireallyappreciateyourtime,andthanksasalwaysforlistening.

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