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COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA LEGISLATIVE JOURNAL TUESDAY, APRIL 18,1995 SESSION OF 1995 179TH OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY No. 31 I HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 'The House convened at I pm , edt. THE SPEAKER (MATTHEW J. RYAN) PRESIDING PRAYER JOURNAL APPROVAL POSTPONED The SPEAKER. Without objection, the approval of the Journal of Wednesday, March 22, 1995, will be postponed until printed. The Chair hears no objection. I HOUSE BILLS INTRODUCED AND REFERRED REV. DR. 1:MLYN I 1 JONES, pastor of Stoverdale United Methodist Church, Humelstown, Pennsylvania, offered the following prayer: that will rescue our youngsters from deviant behaviors, provide for the general welfare ofall our people, restore those who have become Referred to Committee on GAME AND FISHERIES, March 23, victims, and fairly discipline and rehabilitate those who rebel and 1995. No, 1320 By Representatives CLARK, PICCOLA, D. R. WRIGHT, FARGO, NICKOL, SATEER, CAPPABIANCA, STISH, TIJI.LI, FLEAGLE, E. Z. TAYLOR, S. H. SMITH, Please bow with mc. Eternal Father, Thou who has been with us from the very be@~gs of our h om on wealth, we d e s k to begin this legislative scsslon seeking Your will for Our people and Your guidance for the members of this grand House. Our people desue resolution of the awesome problems they must deal w ~ t h daily. Our elderly seek to live their lives in safety and xcurity. They have made significant conlrihutions to the rebuilding of our society, and they now desire to simply live tranquilly in their ref rement ycars Help us to provide fol-their needs. Our youth feel the challenge of lik and anl~cipate change for thc better. 0 God, may we provide them with excellent educational opportunities, motivation to be the best and to cxcel in theil- chosen disciplines. Grant us wisdom to provide to them the necessary ingredients for successfirl living. we must also addrcss the culvcnt of violence and crime. only you have adequate answers for youth gone astray and adults who rehe to our laws, (;rant us, ofwlsdom, fair prey upon their fellow citizens. May Your goodness and mercy guide our decisionmaking. We are privileged to snvc our people. May we do so with a sense of h~stoly and with the future always in mind. We ask Your blessings upon our (iovemor, upon his Cabinet, upon our Legislators and their leaders Cirant each of them Your divine presence. I Iear our prayw, 0 God. h en. I ENNNESSEY, R~I,EY, SCIRODER, HERSHEY, GODSHALL, I,EtI, mKRY, VANCE, BATI'ISTO, RAYMOND and FLICK A joint ~ ~ ~ ~ l ~ t i ~ ~ proposing amendmentsto the Constitution of the Commonwealth ofPennsylvania, changing and adding provisions relating to the regional selection ofjustices and judges. Referred to Committee on JUDICIARY, March 23, 1995. No. 1321 By Representatives LEVDANSKY, GODSIWL, HALIJSIm, BAKER, WNNA, RUBLEY, READSHAW, HEN~SSEY, KlJKOVIClI, PETTIT, SURRA, SHANER, McCALI., GORIINER, WALKO, MIJNDY, BELARDI, LAIJGHLIN, PISI'E1.I.A and MICHLOVIC An Act amending the act of April 9, 1929 (P.L. 177, No. 179, known as The Administrative Code of 1929, providing for the eslablishment and operation ofa Sportsmen Advisory Council to advise the Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission and the Pennsylvania Game Commission. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE (The Pledge ofAllegiance was recited by members and v~sitors.) No. 1322 13y Representatives LEVDANSKY, GODSHALL, tlNVNA, WAUGH, TIGUE, RAKER, I IALUSKA, HENNESSEY, CAPPABIANCA, WOGAN, ITKIN, WALKO, BELARDI, McCALL, CiORDNER, LAIJGl ILIN and PISTELLA An Act establishing an administrative investigative office for certain independent agencies under the Governor known as the Off~ceof Inspector General for the Commonwealth; and imposing powers and duties on the Inspector General. Refmed to Committee on STATE GOVERNMENT, March 23, 1995.

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COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA

LEGISLATIVE JOURNAL

TUESDAY, APRIL 18,1995

SESSION OF 1995 179TH OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY No. 31 I

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 'The House convened at I p m , e d t .

THE SPEAKER (MATTHEW J. RYAN) PRESIDING

PRAYER

JOURNAL APPROVAL POSTPONED

The SPEAKER. Without objection, the approval of the Journal of Wednesday, March 22, 1995, will be postponed until printed. The Chair hears no objection.

I HOUSE BILLS INTRODUCED AND REFERRED

REV. DR. 1:MLYN I 1 JONES, pastor of Stoverdale United Methodist Church, Humelstown, Pennsylvania, offered the following prayer:

that will rescue our youngsters from deviant behaviors, provide for the general welfare ofall our people, restore those who have become Referred to Committee on GAME AND FISHERIES, March 23,

victims, and fairly discipline and rehabilitate those who rebel and 1995.

No, 1320 By Representatives CLARK, PICCOLA, D. R. WRIGHT, FARGO, NICKOL, SATEER, CAPPABIANCA, STISH, TIJI.LI, FLEAGLE, E. Z. TAYLOR, S. H. SMITH,

Please bow with mc. Eternal Father, Thou who has been with us from the very

b e @ ~ g s of our h om on wealth, we d e s k to begin this legislative scsslon seeking Your will for Our people and Your guidance for the members of this grand House.

Our people desue resolution of the awesome problems they must deal w ~ t h daily. Our elderly seek to live their lives in safety and xcurity. They have made significant conlrihutions to the rebuilding of our society, and they now desire to simply live tranquilly in their ref rement ycars Help us to provide fol- their needs. Our youth feel the challenge of l ik and anl~cipate change for thc better. 0 God, may we provide them with excellent educational opportunities, motivation to be the best and to cxcel in theil- chosen disciplines. Grant us wisdom to provide to them the necessary ingredients for successfirl living.

we must also addrcss the culvcnt of violence and crime. only you have adequate answers for youth gone astray and adults who rehe to our laws, (;rant us, ofwlsdom, fair

prey upon their fellow citizens. May Your goodness and mercy guide our decisionmaking.

We are privileged to snvc our people. May we do so with a sense of h~stoly and with the future always in mind.

We ask Your blessings upon our (iovemor, upon his Cabinet, upon our Legislators and their leaders Cirant each of them Your divine presence.

I Iear our prayw, 0 God. h e n .

I ENNNESSEY, R ~ I , E Y , SCIRODER, HERSHEY, GODSHALL, I,EtI, mKRY, VANCE, BATI'ISTO, RAYMOND and FLICK

A joint ~ ~ ~ ~ l ~ t i ~ ~ proposing amendments to the Constitution of the Commonwealth ofPennsylvania, changing and adding provisions relating to the regional selection ofjustices and judges.

Referred to Committee on JUDICIARY, March 23, 1995.

No. 1321 By Representatives LEVDANSKY, GODSIWL, HALIJSIm, BAKER, W N N A , RUBLEY, READSHAW, H E N ~ S S E Y , KlJKOVIClI, PETTIT, SURRA, SHANER, McCALI., GORIINER, WALKO, MIJNDY, BELARDI, LAIJGHLIN, PISI'E1.I.A and MICHLOVIC

An Act amending the act of April 9, 1929 (P.L. 177, No. 179, known as The Administrative Code of 1929, providing for the eslablishment and operation ofa Sportsmen Advisory Council to advise the Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission and the Pennsylvania Game Commission.

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

(The Pledge ofAllegiance was recited by members and v~sitors.)

No. 1322 13y Representatives LEVDANSKY, GODSHALL, tlNVNA, WAUGH, TIGUE, RAKER, I IALUSKA, HENNESSEY, CAPPABIANCA, WOGAN, ITKIN, WALKO, BELARDI, McCALL, CiORDNER, LAIJGl ILIN and PISTELLA

An Act establishing an administrative investigative office for certain independent agencies under the Governor known as the Off~ce of Inspector General for the Commonwealth; and imposing powers and duties on the Inspector General.

Refmed to Committee on STATE GOVERNMENT, March 23, 1995.

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No. 1323 By Representatives LEVDANSKY, GODSHhL.I,, TIGUE, HENNESSEY, ITKIN, BAKER, CAPPABIANCA, PETTIT, flANNA, WALKO, UELARDI, McCALL, LAUGHI.IN and HALUSKA

An Act amendinn the act of June 25, 1982 lP.L.633. N0.181). known - as the Regulatory Review Act, further defining "agency."

Referred to Committee on STATE GOVERNMENT, March 23, 1995.

No. 1324 By Representatives DENT, BOYES, SAYLOR, BROWNE, TRELLO, NAII,OR, VAN HORNE, PERZEL, BARLEY, ITKIN, FARGO, D. W. SNYDER, BUNT, DeLUCA, FAST, GANNON, HUTCfllNSON, NYCE, RAYMOND, RUBLEY, STETLER, TIGUE, ZUG, ADOLPII, BATTISIO, L. I. COHEN, CONTI, KENNEY, LAWLESS, McCALL, NICKOL, PRESTON, SEMMEL, STISII, TRICH, BAKER, BOSCOLA, CIVERA, CLARK, CLYMER, COI.AF'ELLA, CORNELL, EGOLF, FICHTER, GEIST, GRUITZA, HENNESSEY, JIZDLOWIEC, JAROLIN, KAISER, LEII, LIJCYK, M.4RKOSEK. MARSICO, MAYERNIK, MELIO, MERRY, O'HRIEN, PET1'1'l', E A D S H A W , REINARD, ROONEY, SATHER, SERAFINI, S. H. SMITH, J. TAYLOR, WOGAN, WOLNIAK and WALKO

An Actamendinn the act ofMarch 4. 1971 (P.L.6.Na.2). known as the

No. 1328 By Representative PERZEI.

An Act anlending the act of May 16, 1921 (I'L.579. No.262). referred to as the County Prison Board Law, further defining powers of wardcns and corrections officers, establ~shing a committee to formulate a basic course of study; and defining "correction officer." w

Rcfcrred to Committee on JIJIIICIARY, March 27, 1995

No. 1329 By Kcprese~itat~ve P13FZEI.

An Act amending the act of March 30, 1937 (P.L.115, No.40). known as The Flrsl Class City I'cr~nanent Registration Act. adding certain items relating to Social ~ecirity numbers and the date of registration lo certain registration forms. w

Referred to C o m t t e e on STATE GOVIIKNbENT, March 27,

I IYY5. 1 No. 1330 Ry Repsesentattve PERZEII

- An Act amcnding Titlc 42 (Judiciav and Judicial Procedure) of the " -

l'ennsylvania Consolidated Statutes, further providing for law enforcement in rclatlon to certain jrlveniles.

1 Referred to Committcc on JIJIIICIARY, March 27, 1995. ~ ~~

Tax Krir,na Code oi 197 I . c\clud~ng lrl,lll sslt\ and Use In\. i~rpordlc l l i l NO. 1331 l i j Kcprc~L.r~tat~\r. I ~ l . H / l : l . ~ncomo ulr and cal,~lal SISKL and ftat~cll~sr. I ~ X ccrlalll li~rc~pn cnultca iur111g I commercial printers locatcd within Pcnnsylvania.

Referrcd to Committee on FINANCE, March 23, 1995.

No. 1325 By Representat~ve P E U E L

An Act amending Title 75 (Vehicles) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes, further providing for odometer disclosure rcquirementu, and

An Act amcnding the act of June 3, 1937 (P.I..1333, No.3?0), known as lhc Pennsylvania Election Codc, further providing for voting by qualified absentcc clcctors, fur clcction returns and for appeals of county board decisions.

Referred to Commlttee on STATE; GOW.UNMI<NT, March 27, 1995

providing for insurance company's right to odometer records.

Referred to Committee on 'I'KANSPOR'TATION. March 27, 1995.

No. 1326 By Representative PERZEI.

No. 1332 Hy Representatives E O N , ITKIN, COY, BELARDI, , EVANS, McCALL, JOSEPIIS, SIJRRA, TKICH, TRELLO, MELIO, L, I, C O ~ N , FAST, H~\.TTISTO, L,/\u(;I,I,IN, YOUNGBLOOII, STEELMAN, LUCYK, WASIIIN(;TON, . WAI.KO, BEHKO-JONES, NAII.OR, VAN IIORNE, CURRY, MERRY, HFXMAN, Tl(iUU, TI IOMAS and ROONEY

An Act amending Titlc 75 (Vehicles) of the k'cnnsylvania Cunsolidated Statutes, providing for the forfeiture of motor vehicles of persons not properly licensed or without financial responsibility.

No. 1327 Uy Represcntat~ve PEEEL. 1 NO. 1333 By Keprcscntat~ves LAIJGIILIN, McCALI.,

A,, Act anending ritles 23 ( ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ i ~ ~ ~ l ~ ~ i ~ ~ ~ ) , 30 ( ~ i ~ h ) , 34 ( G ~ ~ ~ ~ ) and 75 (Vehicles) of lhe pennsylvania ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ l i d ~ ~ ~ d statutes, further pmviding for support matters, for arreara~es, for conlcmpt of the order and

Referred to Committee on TKANSI'OKI'ATION. March 27, 1995.

- . . for attachment of income. and providing for denial of certain privileges.

Referred to Colnmittcc on JUDICIARY, March 28, 1995. 1

Referred to Comm~ttcc on FINANCE, March 27, 1995

~ n ~ c t a m e n d i n ~ the act ofAugust 14. 1991 (P.1.342, No.36). known as the Lottery Fund Preservatiutl Act. further defining "income."

An Act aniendi~lg thc act ofApril 12. 1951 (1'1.90. No.21). known as the Liquor Codc. furthcr dctin~ng "rcstaurant" w

MICOZZII:, C I V E G , ~ I J N T , HJiI.FANT1, COI.AFr~I.I.A, R];[,AKDI, p 1 ~ 1 . ~ 1 , 1 , ~ , J~sI:~') IS, JM<()I.[N, 1 IN,(JSKA, MliL10, II'KlN, RE:Al)SHAW, WN.KO, CLARK and MERRY

Referred to Comm~ttcc on LIQIJOK CONTKOL, April 3, 1995

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No. 1334 By Kepresentatlves CAPPABIANCA, SERAFJNI, BEBKO-JONES and SCIIIMI<NI I

An Act amending the act ofApril 12, 1951 (P.L.90, No.21), known as the 1.iquor Cude, iurthcr pro\,idtng far stadturn and restaurant licenses in third class cities.

Refmedto Corn~n~ttec on l.IQIJOlI CONTROL., Apnl 6, 1995.

No. 1335 By Kepl-csentalives AIIMSTRON(i, Gl,ADF:CK, B E I A N MII.I.ER, B l . 1 , STUN./\, HENNESSEY, E. Z. TAYI,OR, IAI JGl ILIN, WOGAN, YOUNGBLOOD, ITKIN, CIVERA, TRH.I.0, CORNF;I.L, RICHARDSON, MAKKOSEK, SAN'rONI, S'I'P;RN, 'SRlJli, MI1 IALICII, RIJTKOVITZ, Al..LEN, MELIO, CAW.IIY, L3[JX'I'ON, I.EVDANSKY, YEWCIC, 'TI(ilJE, STEIL, WAIJGll, WAI.KO, CIL4IlWICK, IXOLI;, ROHEK, SURRA. DURlihM. CON'I'I, KfiNNliY, MASLAND, PICCO1.A.

No. 1338 By Representat~ves CIVERA, DONATUCCI, SERAFINI, MICOLZIE, FICHTER, CLYMER, DeLUCA, RIJBL1i.Y. STABACK, M N WRIGHT, I.EDERER, ( E Z TAYLOR and FARGO

An Act amendlng ihc act ofApril 12, 1951 (P.L90,N02l), known as the Liquor Code, further provid~ng for performing arts facilities.

I Refwed to Cornnuttee on I.IQIJOR CONTROL, April 10, 1995.

No. 1339 By Represcntatlves S SEIl., PET TIT, RURLEY, WAUGII, SAYI.OR, STAHACK, MlLLER, E Z IAYLOR, PISTtLL.A, B A N I and mLIO

An Act amending the act of February I, 1966 (1965 P.L.1656, No.581). known as The Borough Code. further providing for separate bids for plumbing. hcating, ventilating and electrical work.

SThUACK, LlAI.LY, NILKOL. and MAKSICO ( Keferrcd to Comm~ttee on LOCAL GOVERNMENT, Apnl 10,

An Act requiring the certification of individuals engaged in lead-based paint activities; establishing minimum training requirements Cur the various mupations that perfarm lcad-based paint activities. requiring training to be provided by accredttcd tratnlng programs, eslablishing standards Tor

No. 1340 By Kepresentat~ves STEIL, I ENNESSEY, SEMMEL, FAKGO, PEI'TIT, RIJBLEY, HALUSKA, CLARK,

pcrfom~ing lead-based pa~nt act~vities, providing for thc enforcement of standards. requiring the licensurc or lcad contractors, establishing inlerlm regulatianx. cstablishitlg fccs for accreditation. cert~lication atid licensurc rcquirtne prior notificat~oti. cslahlishing tlic Lead-t3ascd Pam1 Abatc~ncnt

Referred to Committee on LOCAL GOVERNMENT, April 10, No. 1336 By lieprcseiitatives M. COIEN, MASLAND, 1995,

COKNI':LL., ITKIN, kI. 7 I'AYT.OII, FAJ'I', WAIJGI I, BliIARDI,

~ M S T R O N G WAIJGI I (;LN)ECK, SAYLOR, S T ~ A C K , SA'SFER, I)iGIROLAMO, MII,LER, E. Z. TAYLOR, PISTELLA, I3ARD and Mlil.10

. - . Adviso~ Commiitcc. establ~shn~g reciprocal arrangements w~lh other states. and further prrjviding Tor a continuln~ appropriation

Iiefmcd to Com~mnec on LAl3OR RI:I.A'SIONS, April 6, 1995

An Actamendmg ihc act oflune 24, 1931 (P.L.1206,No.331), known as The First Class Township Code, further providing for separate bid sl~ecificatiuns far different branches of work.

NICKOL, Sll l iMINI, JOSliPtIS, AI)OLPII, S'l'URT.A, CI.AKK, ROBINSON, 1Ib;NNliSSEY. COl.AlZ%O, IERMAN, MIJNDY, L. I COIlliN, TIU21,1.0, I3ROWNE. KliADSI IAW, IIIJIII.IIY, YOUNGBLOOD, SAYI.OK, l'ISTI:LI.A, Sf:MMli!., FIAUISKA,

No. ,34, By VEON, GEORGE, BEI,mI, REHIiR, MIINIIY, TRtLLO, MEI,IO, S.l.liEI,MAN, and SERhFINI

KENNEY, MI1 IAl,lCI 1, UIJNI'. McCil:I:l IAN, SA'LI IER, LAUGHLIN, PF3"l'l'T, 1100NliY, IjhKI), GLORGl~, KUKOVICFI and MICI 11.OVIC

An Act rcglrlaling organ procurerncnl urgani,ations. tissue hanks and eye banks. prolridiny fix licensurc procedures and for the Organ and Tissue

A, ,jet amendinglhe act o f ~ u l y 7,1980 (p,1,,380, ~ ~ . 9 7 ) , known as the Solid Waste Managemcnt Act, further providing for permits.

Refmed to Committee on ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES AND E ~ K ( ; Y , ~ ~ ~ , l 1 1 , 1995,

Procurcmcnt and Transplantation Adv~sor). Hoard to rc\,icw tlic status of organ, tiasucand cyc prwurcmcnt: and prescribing duties of the 1)epartmcnl o i Hcalth.

No. 1342 By Representatives W:ON, GEORGE, FAIRClIILD, SIJKRA, LAIJGIILIN, MItlAIICH, B1JN1' and ROBINSON

R e f m ~ d 10 Conun~tteeon I ll<Al.'il I AN11 IlIiMAN S1:IIVICI:S. April 10, 1995

AII Acl atncnditig thc act of April 12. 1951 (1'1. 90. No ?I). Lno\vli as the 1.1quor Code. iurtllcr provldin~ ior rctail licctiscs ~ssucd lo ccrta~li bremcrs. and pmviding lilr an ckccption la thc inlcrlrrch~np busiticss prohibltiori

An Act amending the act ofOctobcr 18, I988 (P.L.756, NoIOX), known as the ilslardous Sites Clcanup Act. further providing Tor host municipality benefit t'ce.

No. 1337 13y IIcpl-cscntai~ves SIJRAI.'INI, DONATTJCC!, FARMIiK, CON'I'I. I'I'KIN, I. I COI Ll<N, SIISli , UIJNI', S'I'AI3ACK, 'l'l(ilJl:, M. N WII1C;tI'I' and SCIiIMI1NI'I

Kclin~ed to Col~unirtcc on I.IQllOli CON'I'IiOL, April 10, 1995.

Refmed to Comlttec on ENVIIIONmNI.AI, ESOIIRCES Am r I N f i : ~ ~ y , ~ ~ ~ , l 19y5

HOUSE RESOLUTIONS INTRODUCED AND REFERRED

No. 105 By Reprcse~itativcs SKI'LIER, O'BRIEN, LUCYK, HI:l.AKI)I, MII.I.EII, CAI'I'ABIANCA, DEMPSEY, COLAIZZO, 'TKI:I.l.O, IIALIJSKA, MICOLLIE, Mb:I.lO, GEIST, HERSHEY, 'I'lCiliT:, 13AKD, SI'ISII, Sl'lXN, LYNCII, SAYLOR, J . TAYLOR,

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864 LEGISLATIVE JC IURNAL - HOUSE APRIL 18 ARGALL, PISTELLA, REBER, EGOLF, COLNELLA, BOSCOLA, HENNl2SSEY, BAKER, FESS, PHILLIPS, GODSHALL, CLYMER, RUDY, STABACK, WAI.KO, BIJNT, BROWN and I.EH

A Concurrent Resolution directing the Joint State Government Commission to study the feasibility of establishing a separate department or independent commission to implement and administer and advise the Governor on all programs and issues relating to veterans affairs.

Referred to Committee on RULES, March 28, 1995.

No. 106 By Reprcsentatives ZIJG, O'BKIEN, KREBS, N.I.EN, LYNCH, MARSICO, CORRIGAN, NAIIDR, TANGWrTI, DEMPSEY, MILLER, WAIJGII, SI'ERN, BLJXTON, McCALL, STED., TRUE, LUCYK, ROBERTS, ROONJZY, FICHTER, COY, HERMAN, TULLI, GRUPPO, VANCE, SAYLOR, TIGUE, GIGLIOTTI, HUTCIIINSON, CLYMER, I W T , READSHAW, COLhV7.0, RAYMOND, NYCE, BEBKO-JONISS, BATTISTO, I.. I. COW,N, FAKGO and PESCI

ARcsolution relating to maintaining the status quo of forces and training at Fort Indiantown Gap, Pennsylvania.

Referred to Commlttec on INTERGOVEKWNTN, AFFAIRS, Aprll6, 1995

RESOLUTION REPORTED FROM COMMITTEE

H R 92, PN 1390 By Kcp CORNEI.1,

A Resolution dirccttng the Committee on Ilcalth and Human Services to investigate the effectiveness of the emergency health service system.

HEALTH AND IIUMAN SERVICES

BlLLS REPORTED FROM COMMITTEES, CONSIDERED FIRST TIME, AND TABLED

HB 71, PN 44 By Rep. GEIST

An Act designating a certain bridge in Susquehanna County as the Susquchanna County Veterans Memorial Bridge.

TRANSPORTATION.

H B 243, PN 225 By Rep REBER

An Act prohibiting mining in arcas with activc mine fires

ENVIRONMENTAL FSSOIJRCES AND ENERGY

H B 269, PN 262 By Rep. GEIST

An Act designating a certain bridge in Bradford County as the Ebin Dunning Bridge.

TRANSPORTATION

I H B 272, PN I538 (Amended) By Rep. REBER

An Act requiring the Dcpartment of linvironmental Resources to conduct a study and issue a report of its tree harvesting practices in State forests.

V ENVIR0NMI:NTAL RESOURCES AND ENERGY.

I H B 344, PN 1539 (Amended) By Rep. WBER

An Act amending the act of July 13, 1988 (P.l,.530, No.94), known as the Env~ronmental Ilcaring Board Act, further providing for the wmpcnsation of mcmbers ofthe board and for adjudication of the board, and making repeals. w

ENVIKONMENTN. RESOIJKCES AND ENERGY.

I HB 4907 PN 518 I3y Rep. REBBR

An Adunending tho act afJanuay 8, 1960 (1959 P.L.21 19, No.787). known as the Air I'allution Control Act, cxcmpting certain portions of - highways in second class townships from dust control measures.

I ENVIRONMIINTAL RES0IJRCt;S AND ENERGY.

I H B 766, PN 851 I3y Ikp . GEIST

An Act amending Title 75 (Vehicles) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes, permitting certain volunteer organlzatlons to solicit contributions from a roadway.

I H B 917. PN 1534 (Amended) By Rep. GElST

An Act dcsignating SR 3015 in Susquchanna County and SR 1009 in Wyoming County as Avery Station Road.

TRANSPORTATION.

I HB 9439 pN Ios2 By Rep GEIST .

I An Act designating Exit 43 oflnterslate Route 80 as the Richard Pem

I TRANSPORTATION.

I H B 993, PN 1535 (Amended) By Rep. GlllST

An Act amending Title 75 (Vehicles) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated .u' Stztuks, further providing for penalties for driving while operating privilege is suspended or revokcd and for subsequent convictions of certain offenses.

I TRANSPORTATION.

I H B 1024, PN 1536 (Amended) Hy Rep. GElST

An Act amending Title 75 (Vehicles) ofthe Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes, providing far the designation of an emergency vehicle as a w command post with appropriate green lights.

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HB 1087, PN 1537 (Amended) By Rep. GP:lST In compliance with ActNo. 712 of the 1961 Session and Act No. 212 of the I 1976 Session of the General Assembly titled the "Lobbying Registration and An Act designating a section of SR 3097 in Westmoreland County, Regulation Act.. wc herewith jointly present a list containing the names and

Pennsylvania, as Balker Meyer Pike. addresses of the persons who have registered from March 1,1995 through March 31, 1995 inclusive, for the 179th Session of the General Assembly. rh is list also contains the names and addresses of the organizations represented by these registrants. I '

BILL REPORTED AND REREFERRED TO COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE

AND RURAL AFFAIRS

By Rep. REBER I

Respectfully submitted: Mark R. Corngan, Secretary Senate of Pennsylvania

Ted Maria, Chiefclerk House of Representatives

An Act amending the act of January 8,1960 (1959 P.L.2119, No.787), known as the Air Pollution Control Act, furlher providing for the ~rohibition (For kist, see Appendix.)

against adoption of ngricultural rulcs and regulations.

I LEAVES OF ABSENCE ENVIKONMEN'I'AL Rf.SOUKCES AND ENERGY.

'The SPEAKER. The Chair turns to leaves of absence

BILLS REMOVED FROM TABLE

The SPEAKER I he Char recognizes the majorlty leader Mr PER/XL Mr Speakel, 1 move that !IB 569 and HB 1225 be

removed from the tahle

On the question, Will the House agree to thc n~otion? Motion was agreed to.

BILLS RECOMMITTED

The SPEAKER. The Chair recoplzcs the majority leader. Mr. PERZEL.. Mr. S$caker, I move that HH 569 and HB 1225 he

recommitted to the Committee on Appropriations.

On the question, W~l l the House agree lo the motion 7 Motion was agced to.

COMMUNlCATlON

LOBBYIST LIST PRESENTED

The SPEAKER. 'The Char achowledges receipt of a cornmumcation from the Secl- eta^ oTthc Senate and the Chief Clerk of the House of Repl-esentat~ves. which is in compliance with Act 7 12 of the 1961 session wlth respect to the 1,obbyiug Registration and Regulation Act, whcrchy the names and clients of the lobbyists arc listed with those two ollicials ofthe legislature.

'The follow~ng commun~cation was suhmittcd:

Scnate ofI'cnnsylvanla

April 3, 1995

To the Honorable. the Scnate of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

To the Ilonurable. the t lousc of Representatives

The Chair recognizes the majority whip, Mr. Barley. Mr. BARLEY. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a request today for the gentleman from Bucks County,

Mr. REINAM), for the week of April 18. The SPEAKER. Without objection, leave will he granted. The

Chair hears no oh~ection. I h e Chair recognizes the gentleman, Mr. Coy, for the purpose of

taking IJcmocrat leaves of absence. Mr. COY. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, 1 a3k ffo leave of ahsence fur today's session for the

gentleman from Allegheny County, Mr. COWI.I., and the gentleman from Philadelphia County, Mr. EVANS.

The SPEAKER. Without objection, the leaves will he granted. The Cha l~ hears no ob~ection.

MASTER ROLL CALL

The SPEAKER. The Chair is about to take today's master roll call. Members will procccd to vote.

The following roll call was recorded:

Adolph Allen Argall Amstrong Haker Bard I3arley Banislo Bebko-Jones Hclardi Helfanti l3,rmelin Bishop Hlaum Bos~.ola I3oves

Fairchild Fajt Fargo Farrncr Feese Fichtcr Fleagle Flick Gamble t i m o n Geist George C;iglioni Gladeck Gohhall Gordner

Maitland Major Mandenno Markosek Marsico Masland Mavemik McCall Mctieehan McGill Melio Merry Michlovic Micoaie Mihalich Miller

Saylor Sduoder Schuler Smimenti Semmel Serafini Shaner Sheehan Smith, B. Smilh, S. H. Snyder, D. W Staback Stain Steelman Steil Stem

Brown Gruilza Mundy Stdler Hrowne ( ~ ~ U P P O Nailor Stish Bunt Habay Nickol Slrittmatler Butkovilz Haluska Nyce Slurla

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LEGIS1,ATIVE JOLIHN;\L - IIOC'SE APRIL 18 Cappabianca Cam Carone Cawley Chadwick Civera Clark Clymer C o h q L. I. Cohen, M. Colafella Colaizro Conti Cornell Corpora Corrigan COY curry Daley DeLuca Dempsey Dpnt Dermody DeWeese DiGirolamo Donatu~ci Dmce Durham Egolf

Hasay Hennessey Herman llershey Hess Honey Hutchinson ltkin Jadlowiec James Jarolin Josephs Kaiscr Keller Kenney King Kirkland Krebs Kukovich I.aGrona 1.aughlin I.awless lrderer Idh 1,escovitr Levdansky Lloyd Lucyk L,na

Oliver Taylor, E. Z. Perzel Taylor, J. Pesci Thomas Petrarca Tigue Petrone Travaglio Penit Trello Phillips Trich Piscola True Pistella Tulli Pin9 Vance PlatIs Van florne Preston Voon Ramos Vitali Raymond Walko Readshaw Washtngton Reber Waugh Richardson Williams Kiegw Wogan RoberLv Worniak Robinson Wright, D R Roebuck Wright. M. N Rohrer Yeweif Rooney Youngblood Rubley Ztmmerman Rudy Zug Sainalo Santoni R y a ~ Sather Speaker

ADIIITIONS-0

NOT VOTING-0

Evans Reinard

GUESTS INTRODUCED

The SI'EAWR. The Chair is plcascd to welcome to the hall of the Fiouse today a p u p &om the Ahington Senior High School. This group is represented, apparently, by - it appears to bc almost the entire Montgomery County dclegation who have asked to he mentioned - Kcprcsintatives Bard, McGill, Cornell, Curry, Godshall, and Cohcn. Would the guests plcase rise.

On hehalfof R~~rcscntaQves George and Steelman, we welcome the students and faculty of the Indiana Wesleyan School, who arc seated at thc rear of the hall, the hack of the Ilouse. Would thcsc students please rise.

Mr. CIVERA, Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 'Today 11 gives me a great pleasure to introduce two hoys from

Malvern college preparatory school in Chcstcr County. 'These hoys achieved an award on a statewide basis on the PlAA championship that they wvrestled - Derek Donegan from Chester County, who is J R~yrcs~ntativc Taylor's constituent, and my son, Mario Civcra, who was the othcr boy who had received thesc great awards throughout the State.

Lct me give you a little hit of background. Not only is Elinor a proud State Representative for her constituent hut I am a proud father that I can introduce my son to you today on his accomplishments at Malvern I'rep.

This was thc first time in the history of Malvern Prcp School that they won the Interact championship in the 37 years that they have w wst lcd at this college prcparatory school. During the course of the year, for instance, Mario won the Kcnnctt tournament, thc Valley POI-gc tournament. Flc had 25 wins throughout the season. I le wa5 voted the most improved \&rcstlcr from the coaching staff for this year. Derek Ilonegan, who urestled in the 103-pound weight class, won the PWA, the State independent school wrestling tounament in ; his class, the Kennett tournament, the Valley Forge tournament. 1Ie placed fourth in the nationals. I think it is something that wc should he proud of, as the House of Representatives, to congratulate these two young men.

At this time 1 would like to present the citation to - Elinor, you can prcscnt Derek's - my son, the citation from the Ilouse of Rcpresmtat~ves, which I am not going to go into depth and read

I ~ ~

because wc all know "whereas" and "therefore," and ~ a r i o has secn a lot of them before.

So ladies and gentlemen of the IIouse, I would like to present thcsc two young men that were the State champions for 1995.

The SPEAKER. Mario, Jr., gained all of his strength trying to wrestle the car keys away from his father.

ANNOUNCEMENT BY SPEAKER

The SPEmK. It has been callcd to the Chair's attention that wc have not one hut four hllihdays today, and I think that is n record, and it is probably one that has heen repeated for a number ofycars, hut r

it is the first time I ever noticed it, so lct me take this opportunity, which wc havc ncva done or we haye done inlrcquently, to wish Elinor Taylor, tIoward Fargo, J c q 13irmclin, and Rill L)eWccse, who now nunhcrs 45, a happy hirthday.

They arc all the same age. Mr. I)eWF:I<SE. Mr. Socakcr'?

The SPIAKER. Will the gentleman, Mr. Civera, come to the just th~nk it is an unusual quancl.

rostrum. 'l'hc SPI:N<EK It docs not require much tllought e~thcr, I . . .

MALVERN PREP SCHOOL WRESTLING CHAMPIONS PRESENTED

The gentleman, Mr. Civcra, from Delaware County, has asked permission of the House to read a citation for two members ofthe Malvnn Prep School team who have won the PlAA State wrestling

'I'he SPt;AtiIIR. Mr. I j c ~ c e s e . M-. IIcWEESE. Mr. Speaker, I just want thc members to think-

about that for 1 second - 'Taylor, Fargo, Himielin, and 1)eWccse. I

championship. I think it 1s especially notable to Representat~ve Civcra to read

t h ~ s citation, which includes his son, and I would appreciate it if thc members would exttnd to Reprcscntativc Clvcra and h ~ s son and h ~ s son's classmate some courtesy. In fact, we will insist upon it.

The gentleman, Mr. Civera, is recognized.

does it''

GUESTS INTRODUCED

The SPEAKliIl Wc havc another gucst ~n the I louse, a gucst of J Iioward Fargo, Kcprcscntat~vc Brock 13iernlan of the State of Rhodc Ireland - Khodc lrcland, ho\v ahout that for a k'rcudian slip; you missed it - Rhode Island. 14c is here with his wife, l.isa. Would the Rcpresentativc from (he Emerald Isle pleasc stand.

Rhode lrcland. You can tcll where I \%ant to he.

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CALENDAR

BlLL ON THIRD CONSIDERATION

'lhe I louse procccdcd to third considerallon of HB 741, PN 1240, cntitled:

An Act atncnding U,e act of March 10. 1949 (P.L.30. Na.14). known as the Public School Code of 194% further prowding for the operation of the Stnte System of Ibgher lidurntion: and making a repeal.

On thc question; Will the liousc agree to thc bill on third consideration?

BlLL RECOMMITTED

f i e SPEAKliK. Thc Chair recogniLes thc majority leader. Mr. F'EUPI.. Mr. Spcakcr, I move that HR 741, PN 1240, he

rccomm~ttcd to thc Comlnittee on Appropr~ations.

On the question, Will the House a g e c to the mot~on" Motion was agreed to

RESOLUTIONS PURSUANT TO RULE 35

Ms. BAKI) callcd up HR 96, PN 1431, cntitlcd:

On the qucstlon, Will the I Iouse adopt the rcsolutlon"

'The rollowing roll call was recorded:

Adolph Fair~.hlld I .)rich Saylor Allen I'alt hlaitland Schruder Argall Fargo \lajor Schuler Annstmne l'anner hlandertno Scrlrnenti " Raker 1:eese hlarkosck Scmmel Hard F~chter Xlwstco Ssrafini Harley I'lcagle hlasland Shaner Hallislo I.'lick hlayemik Sheehan Bshka-Jones (iatnblc McCall Setith R Uclardi Hellinti Htrn~elin 13,shop nlaum Hoscola Hoycr Broun Hror\ne Hunl Butkavltz Runlon Caltagirone Cappabian~.;a Cam Carone Cawlcy Childu'lck Civera Clark Clyrnn

Clannun tic>st (icorge tiigliotti Oladeck Godshall Gordncr (iruilta (;~"pp', I lahzty Halusla Hanna Harhilrt >lasay Henecssc) Ilcmran I lsrahey llexs Horwy Ili~ichinson likin

Stcclntan Stcil Stem Slctler Stish Slrirtmatter Slurla Sunn Tangrcm Taylor. E L. 'raylur. I. Thomas I'igue Travagito I'rcllo Trich T W E

URNAL - HOUSE 867 Cuhrn. L. I. Cohen, M. Colarella C o l a i m conti Cornell Corpora Comigan C"Y CUT Daley 1)eLuca Dempsry Dent Dcrmody DeWeese UiCirolamo Dunalucci Druce Durhun Kgolf

Jvdlorviec Piccola James Pins .larolin Plans Josephs Preston Kaiser Kamos keller Raymond Kenney Readshaw King Reber Kirkland Richardson Krebs Ricger Kukavich Rob&- l aGroUa Robinson I.aughlin Roebuck lawless Rohrer I .cderer Rooney Leh Rubley Lescovitz Rudy Lcvdansky Sairlalo Lloyd Santoni L.ucyk Sather

Tulli Vance Van Home Veon Vitali Walko Washington waugh Williams Wogan Wozniak Wright, D. R. Wright, M. N Yewcic Youngblood Z i m e r m a n zug

Ryah Speaker

N A Y S 4

NOT VOTING-I

EXCUSED-3

Evans Reinard

'The majority having votcd in thc affirmative, the question was dctern~incd in the altirmat~ve and the resolution was adopted.

Mr. S'TAIKS called up HR 97, PN 1432, entitled:

A Resolution deslgnallng the week of April 24 through 28, 1995, as "Week o f t h e Young Child" in Pennsylvania.

On the qucstton, Will the I louse adopt the rcsolut~on?

l'he folloulng roll call was recorded

YEAS-200

Adolph ,Ulcn ibgall ,\mstrong I3aksr Ihtrd Harley Hanisto Oehko-.loncs Helardi Bclfanti Birmelln Hishop Hlaum I3oscala Hoycs Hrorvn Browme Hunl Buikovit,.

I'atrch~ld Fajt I'argo Farmer Fecsc Fichter Fleagle Fltck (ian,hlc Gannon Geist George Giglioni Gladruk Godshall Gordner h i m h P P 0 llahay Ilalurka

Irlaitland Major Manderino hlarkosck Manico Masland Maycmik hZcCall McGeehan McCiill Melio M c n y Mlchlovic Micouie Mihalich hliller Mundy Sailor Niclol Nyce

Sa:rlor Schroder Schuler Smimenli Semmel Serafini Shaner Shechan Smith, H. Smith, S. H. Snyder. D. W SLlback Stain Steelman Steil Stem Slctler Stish Strittmattcr Slurla

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LEGISLATIVE JOURNAL - HOUSE APRIL 18 Bunton Caltagkone Cappabianca Cam Carone Cawley Chadwick Civera Clark Clyner C o h q L. 1. C o h q M. Colafella Colaizzo Conti Cornell Corpora Corrigan Cov c u b Daley DeLuca Drmpsey Dent D m o d y DeWeese DiOuolama Donatucci Druce Durham Egolf

Hanna llarharl Hasay Hennesey Herman Hershey H e s Honey Hutchinson Ilkit. Jadlowiec James Jarolin Josephs Kaiser Keller Kenney King Kirkland Krebs Kukovich Lamotla t.aughlin Lawlns Lsderer Leh Lescovilz Levdansk) Lloyd Lucyk L.)nch

O'Brien Olasz Oliver Pnzel Pesci Petrarca Petrone Penit Phillips Piccola Pistella Pius Plan3 Prrston Ramos Raymond Readshaw Reber Richardson Rieger Robefir Robinson Roebuck Rohrer Rooney Rubley Rudy S~inato Santoni SaUler

Surra Tangretti Taylor, E. Z. Taylor, J. Thomas Tigue Travaglio Trello T"ch True Tulli Vance Van Home Veon Vitali Walko Washington Waugh Williams Wogan Wamiak wnght, D. R. Wrighl M. N Yewcic Youneblood

R y w Speaker

NAY S-O

NOT VOTING4

Cowell Evans Reinard

The majority having voted in the af i rmat ive , the question was determined in the affirmative and the resolution was adopted.

Ms. JOSEPIIS called u p HR 99, PN 1450, entitled.

A Resolution memorializing the Governor to proclaim the eight days of Apnl 23 through 30, 1995, as "Days of Remembrance of the Victims of the tlolocaust."

On the question,

Wil l the Ilouse adopt the resolution?

The SPEAKER. The House will comc to order. Members will take their seats.

This resolution is asking the G o v e n ~ o r to proclaim the 8 days of A p d 23 through 30 as "Days of Remembrance of the Victims of the Holocaust."

The Chair recognizes the lady, Ms. Babet te Josephs. Ms. JOSEPlIS. I do not really want to say too much except I

think there are prohahly people w h o wanted to put their namcs o n

a n d did not have the opportunity, so if the Speaker will allow the

resolution t o stay a t t hc desk for s o m e pa-iod of t ime aftcr it is passed , I would appreuate it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The SPEAKER. The Chair apologizes to the lady. That should have been done prior to the resolution having hcen printed. It is too

late to d o that at this time, hut anybody who would like to have done that might submit their names for the record by addressing a note to the Chief Clerk's OfIice, I suppose.

That will not work. It is too late. e

O n the question retuning, Will the House adopt the resolution 7

'The following roll call was recorded:

Adolph Nlcn Argsll Amutrong Baker Bard Barley Banisto Bebko-Jones Belardi Betfanti Rimelin Bishop Blaum Boscula Boyes Brown Broune Bunt Butkovilz B"ln0" Caltagirone Cappabianca Cam Carone Cawley Chadwick Civera Clark ctyner Cohen, I.. I . Cohen, M. Colafella Colaizo Conti Cornell Corpora Carrigan Coy Curry Daley De1,uca Dempsry Dent Dermody DeWee~e DiGirolamo Donatucci h e Ihrham

Egolf Fairchild r+t F a r ~ o Farmer Feese Fichter Fleagle Flick Gamble Oannon Geist

Lucyk Lych Maitland Major Manderino Markosek Marsico Masland Mayemik McCall McCieehan Mctiill

George Melio tiigliolti Merry Glade& Michlovic Godshall Micouie Gordner Mihatich Oruitza Miller m P P 0 Mundy Hahay Nailor Haluska Nickol llanna Nyce Harharl O'Brien Hasay Oliver Hmesrey Penel H m a n Pesci Hershey Petrarca Hsss Petrone llorsey Penit Hutchmsan Phillips ltkin Piccola Iadlowiec Pistella James Pit% Jarolin Plans Josuphs Preston Kaiser Ramos Kcller Raymond Kenney Readshaw King Reba Kirkland Richardson Krebs Rleger Kukovluh Roberts l aGrotta Rohinson laughlin Roebuck I.awless Rohrer Ledercr Kooney Leh Rublcy Lercovitr Rudy lnvdansky Saknato I.Iovd Santoni

Sather Saylor Schroder Schuler Smimenti Semmel Serafini Shaner Shechan Smith, B. Smith, S. H. Snyder. D. W staback Stain Steelman Stcil Stem Stetler Stish Strillmatter Sturla Surra Tangretli Taylor, E. Z. Taylor, J. 'Thomas T i y e Trnvaglio 'Trello Trich Tmo Tulli Vance Van llorne Veon Vitali Walko Washington Wau& N'illiams Wogan Wnght, D R J Wright, bM N

Youngblood Zimmerman Zug

Ryan, Spedkel

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Cowell Evans Reinard I The majority having voted in the aflirmative, the question was

determined in the allinnative and the resolution was adopted.

Mr tiUTCIIINSON called up HR 104, PN 1451, ent~tled I A Resolution commemorating the City of Franklin's Bicentennial. I On the question, Will the House adopt the resolution?

The following roll call was rccordcd. I Adolph Allen Argall Amstrong Baker Bard Barley Battisto Behko-Jones Belardi Belfanti Birmelin Hisl~op Blaum Bopcola Boycs B r o w B r o w e Bunt Hutkoritz Buxton Caltagironc Cappabianca Cam Carme Cawley Chadwick Ciwra Clark Clymer Cohcn, I. I. Cohen. M. Colafella Colai~zo Conti Comcll Corpora Conigan COY cum. Dalcy OcLuca Ilernpscy Dent Oennody U e i & ' r ~ \ ~ c

Fairchild Pajt Fargo Fanner Feese Fichter Flcagls Flick Gamble Ciannon &is1 George (iiglrotti Gladeck Godshall Gordner (~TUIIL~ ~ P P O 1Iabay llaluska Hanna Harhan Haray Ilenncssey I l c rm~n Hershey Hess Honuy Hushinson ltkin ladlowtsc lames Jarolin Jusephs Kaiser Kcller Kcnney King tiirkland Krehs huko\lch I.aCin,ltn 1;augllltn l.a\*I~.a:. L.sdercr I.eh

Madland Major hlanderino Markosek Marsic0 Masland Mayemik lMfCall McGeeban McGill Llelio Merry hlichlovic Micor~ie Mlhalich Miller hlundv Nailor Nickol Nvce O'Hrim O l a s ~ Oliver Pcr,.cl Pesci I'ctrarca Petrone Pellit I'hill~ps Piccola Plstella Pltts l'lalta I'reston Katnas Ka)mond Ksa&shaw Kcher R ~ i l ~ a r d s m K~agcr K,,hslls I<i>hlnaoo Rochuck Kohrtr Hooncy Hohlc,

Saylor Schroder Schuler Scrimenti Semmel Serafini Shaner Sheehan Smith, R. Srnilh, S. H. Snyder, D. W. Stahack Staim Steclman SteB Stem Steller Stiah Stridmaner Sturla Suna Tangeni Taylor, E. I. Taylor, J. Thornas T i y e 'lravagliu Trello 'I'rlch 'True Tulli Vance Van Horns Yeon Vitali Walko Washington Waugll \Vllliarns U ' o g a ~ ~ \I'om!ith Wright. I). R Wriglrt. M. ir \ ewcw Younghlood /,!~nmennan

JRNAL - HOUSE 869 DiOirolamo bsc0vilZ Rudy zu8 Donatucci Levdansky Sainato Dmce Lloyd Santoni Ryan, Durham h c ~ k Sather Speaker Egolf Lynch

NOT VOTING4

Cowell Evans Keinard

The majority having voted in the affmative, the question was determined in the aflirmative and the resolution was adopted.

GUESTS INTRODUCED

The SPEAKER. The Chair is pleased to welcome to the hall of the House a group from the Hanover Area Chamber of Commerce, here today having a, quote, "Day in Harrisburg," close quote. They are here as the guests of Representative Nickol. Will the guests please rise.

APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING

'The SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes the gentleman, Mr. Pitts, for the purpose of making an announcement.

Mr. PIT'I'S. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would l~ke to, as soon as we break, call a meeting of the House

Appropriations Committee in the conference room to the rear of the House, room 245.

The SPEAKER. The Chair thanks the gentleman.

ANNOUNCEMENT BY MR. S. H. SMITH

The SPEAKER. Illc Chair recognizes the gentleman, Mr. Smith, the gentleman from Jefferson.

Mr. S. I I. SMITl I. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 'To makc an announcement. Mr. Spcaker, I just wanted to remind the members of a meeting

tomono\v moming at 8 o'clock in the majority caucus room in which wc will have thc Secretary ofl'ransportation, Mr. Malloly, and the Deputy Secretaq for Safety Administration, Betty Serian, present, in which they are going to update members on the adnunistration's plans for continuing the decentralization of PennDOT services and the entire proccss that they are looking at. All members are welcome, even if you havc not called ahead, but 1 just wanted to remind evclyone.

'Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

VETERANS AFFAIRS AND EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS COMMITTEE MEETING

The SPHAKk;R. Thc Chair recobmizes the gentleman from I'hiladclphia, Mr O'Bricn.

Mr. O'I3KIIIN. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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At the declaration of the recess, thcre will be an immediate meeting of the Veterans M a n s and Emcrgaicy Preparedness Committee in the back of the liouse.

The SPEAKER. 'The Chalr thanks the gentleman.

REPUBLICAN CAUCUS

The SPEAIGJ1. 'The Chair recognizes the gentleman, Mr. Fargo, for the purpose of announcing a Kcpublican caucus.

Mr. FARGO. Thadi you, Mr Speakcr. The Republican members will caucus in the rnajorlty caucus

room at I0 minutes till 2, and we will reconvene at 3 o'clock. Thank you.

DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS

The SPEAKER. 'lhe Chair recognizes the gcntleman, Mr. Cohen, w ~ t h respect to a 1)emocratic caucus

Mr. COIfEN. Thank you, Mr. Speakcr. Mr. Speaker, the Democrats will also caucus at 1 :50, I0 minutes

of 2, and hopefully we will he done hy 3 o'clock. 'The SPEAKER. The Chalr thanks the gcntleman.

ADDITIONS AND DELETIONS OF SPONSORS

Thc SPEAKER. The Chair ac!uiowlcdges rccipt of add~tlons and deletions for sponsorships of hills, which the clerk will file.

(Copy of list 1s on filc with the Journal clerk )

RECESS

Thc SPEAKER. Docs the majonty lcader or minority leadcr have any further business?

Hearing none, this I Iousc will stand in recess untll 3 o'clock or the sooner call of the Chair.

AFTER RECESS

'The Umc ofrecess havlng cxprred, the I lousc \+as callcd to order

BILLS REPORTED FROM COMMITTEE, CONSIDERED FIRST TIME, AND TABLED

H B 1085, PN 1544 (Aniendedj I3v Rep O'BKIEN

An Act establishing the Ofice of State Fire Com~nlssiuner as an independent of~cc. trat~sfcrririg the Volunteer Loan Assistance I'rogram atid the State Rrc Acadclnv lo the Oflice ofShte [;ire Commissioner, and making repeals.

'RNAL - HOUSE APRIL 18

HB 1086, PN 1209 By Rep O'BRIEN

An Act amendlng Title 35 (Flcalth and Safely) of thc Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes. further providing for organization of Pennsylvania

~~

hiecrgency Management Agency. w VE'I'ERANS AFFAIRS ANI) 1;MERGENCY

PREPARrX>NESS.

BILLS REREPORTED FROM COMMITTEE

HB 431,PN 451 By Kcp PI'I TS

An Act designating a sectton of Routc 19, Eric County, as the J Ccneral Strong Vincent Mcnional f lighway.

APPROPRIATIONS

H B 537, PN 565 Hy Rep PIT I'S

An Act designating (he interchange of 1-79 and 1-90 in Erie County as . the Charlcs D. Hurzanco lnterchangc

APPROI'RIATIONS.

HB 682, PN 754

- By Rep. PITTS

An Act amcndlng the acl of May 27. 1953 (P.1.244. No.34), entitled "An act relating to and regulating the contracts of incorporated towns and providing pcnalttcs." further providing for contracts.

H B 683, PN 755 By Rep PITfS

An Act amending IheactofFcbruaty I. I966 (I965 PL.1656. No.581). known as Tlle Lhrough Code. further providing fin contracts.

HB 684, PN 756 Hy Rep PITTS s

An Acta~nctidirig the act ofAugi~sl 0. 1955 (t'.1..323. No.l30), known 3s The County Codc. furlhcr prowding fur contract procedures.

HB 685, PN 757 r i c p i'r.rrs

All Act anlcndinp the act of May I. 1933 (P.L.103. No.69). known as 1'

The Sccand Class Tounship Codc. further prvvtding fvr contracts.

A1'PKC)I'KlA I IONS

AnActanictidin& tlic actif Junc 24. 1931 (P.I.1206. No.331). k l luhn as The f'irst Class Tvwnship Code. further providiny for contracts. w

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HB 699, PN 771 I3y Rep. PITTS

An Act atncnding the act of December 20; 1967 (P.l.869, N0.385). known as the Public Works Contractors' Bond Law of 1967, further prouidlng for cnforcctnent oflaborcrs' claims and far linancial security of contractors and bidders.

An Act amcnding the act of May I . 1933 (1'1.103, No.69). known as The S a n d ClirssTounship Cadc. furthcr prt~vidtng for vacancies in certain ufficcs

APIJROPRIA7 IONS

HB 720, PN 799 By Rep. I'l'l'7S

An Act amcnd~ngthcactofI'ebruan 1, 1966 (1965 P 1..1656,No.581), known as The ijon,ugh Codc. further providing for filling vacancies in borough ufliccs

HB 721, PN 800 By Kcp I'I'I'TS

An Act amcnding the actofJune23. 1931 (PI..932.N0317), knmxn as The Thud Class City Code. funhcr providing fbr vucanclcs in council. oitice oimavor. co~~trollcr and trcasurcr.

HB 722, PN 801 I3y Rep. PI'l'1'S

An Act arncndlnp the a d oiJune 24. lL>31 (1'1. 1206. No 331). knonn as 'The 1;irst Class 'Tuwnshlp Codc. i~irthcr p rov~dln~ for vacancics in certai~l nfliccs

APl'ROI'RIA I IONS

HB 1032, PN 1-134 13) Kcp 1'1 ITS

An Act provld~ng ibr thc prccnipt~o~i of ordinantics and other rcgulationr of citics of the first class for capltvl projects and impro\ernents of State-related U I I ~ Y C ~ S I ~ ~ L ~ S P ~ I I I C I P ~ I I ) lr~calcd wlhm c~tics of the first class

N'PKOPKIA'I IONS

An Act anicndlnp thc act orApril 12. 1Y51 (P 1.Y0. No 21). known a! the Liquor Codc. pnnlding li,r transicr r,l rcstauvatnt licci~scs to ccrtair dcteriuratcd arcas

N'I'KOI'RIAI IONS

An Act amcndtnp t l~c ;let o i Mil\ I . 1'131 (1'1. 103. Noh'>). known a: I h c Second Class ' l 'o~nship Codc. t'urlher pr<,\!d~ng ior conl~acts.

RNAL - HOUSE 871

HB 1117,PN 1246 By Rep. PITTS

An Adamcnding the act ofJune 24,1931 (P.L.1206, No.331). known s The First Class Township Code. further providing for contracts.

HB 1118,PN 1247 13y Rep. PITTS

An Act amcnding the a~.t oikbrualy I , 1966 (1965 P.L.1656. No 581), n o w as 'lhc Horough Code, further providing for contracts and purchases.

An AdamerlJing thcact ofApril 9, 1929 (PI , l77, No.l75), known as Ihe Administrative Code of 1929, abolishing the Departmcnt of Health and hc Department of Pubhc Welfare and transferring the functions of those Icpartments to thc newly established Tlepartmcnt of tlcalth and Human iervices. creating the Department of Community and Economic >evclopment; reorganizing and transferring the powers and dutics oithe lepartment ofCommcrce and the Dcpartmcnt of Communily Affairs to the Icpartrnent ofCummunity and i:conornic LIer~eloprnent; deleting provisions elating lu the Energy Dcvelop~nent Authority, regulating disposition of rurplus property, arid making repcals.

AI'I'KOl'KIA I'IONS

SUPPLEMENTAL CALENDAR A

RESOLUTIONS PURSUANT TO RULE 35

M r b I.AU(il &IN called up HR 107, PN 1529, entttled

A Resolution proclaiming April 24, 1995. as a commemorative day for lic victnns ofthe Arnien~an gcnocidc.

On the question, Wlll thc llousc adopt the resolution"

I 'hc SI'EAKCII. The Chatr recogiuzcs the lady, Mrs. Laughlin. Mrs. LAlJGlII.IN. 'Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Spcaker, my father was born in Am~enia , but he lefl before

.lie lnassacrc hcgat~. l i e came to the IJnitcd States, but all of his Eamily \ \as killed thcrc l l c served in World War I . I l e raised his Tam~ly in I'ennsylvan~a, and hc lived to a ripe old age of 95. If he r\ould habc stayed in h c n t a , he \&ould have died at a very early Apt.

So 1 an v c q grateful that lie calilc herc so that I can sponsor this rcsolution 1le was one of the most Important men in my life, and ~r id rmt him. I \ \ o d d not he 11ac today. Uut 1 also have to glve crcdit lo m \ hushand, \vho niadc 11 possible for m c to he here.

'I'hanh yo11 very much, Mr Speaker 'i'hc Sl'liAKl<lt. Tnc Chait- t h a k s thc lady

On the qucslioti ~ ~ C U I T I I I ~ ,

Will tile I lousc nd~)pt thc rcsolution7

I b c lollo\r.ing roll call \?as recorded.

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872 LEGISLATIVE JOURNAL - HOUSE APRIL 18 YEAS-199 I Mr. DEMPSLY called up HR 108, PN ,533, entitld:

Adolph Allen Argall Armstrong Baker Bard Barley BaUisto Behko-Jones Belardi Helfanti Birmelin Bishop Blaum Boscola Boyes Brown Browne Bunt Bulkovitz Budon Caltaarone Cappabianca C a m Carone Cawley Chadwick Civera Clark ciymer Cohen I... I. C o h q M. Colafella Colaizo Conti Comell Corpora Corrigan COY curry Daley DeLuca Dempaey Dem Dermody DeWeese DiGirolamo Donatucci h c e Durham Egolf

Fairchild L p c h Fajt Maitland Fargo Major Farmer Manderlno Feese Markosek Fichter Marsi~.o Eleagle Masland Flick Mayemik Gamble McCall G m o n McGeehan Geist McGill George Melio Gigliotli Merry Gladeck Michlovic Godshall Micouie Gordner Mihalich Gruitra Miller h P P 0 Mundy Habay Nailor Haluska Nickol H m a Nyce Hathart O'Brien Hasay Olasr llennessey Oliver Herman Per~el Hershey Pesd Iless Petrarca Horsey Petrone Flutchnnson Pmit ltkin Phillips Jadlowiec Piccola James Pistella Jarolin Pi- Joseph3 Platts Kaiser PreJton Koller Kamos Kenney Raymond King Readshaw Kirkland Reber Krebs Richardson Kukovich Rieger IsOroUa Roberts laughlin Rohinson Lawless Roebuck Lederer Rohrer Leh Rooney Lescovilr Rubley l ~ v d a n s k y Rudy Lloyd Sainato lucvk Santoni

NAY S-0

NOT VOTINCi-I

Williams

Evans Reinard

Sa tha Saylor Schroder Schuler Smimemi Semmel Serafilu Shaner Shsehan Smith, B. Smilh, S. H. Snyder, D. W. Staback Stairs Stcelman Steil Stem Stetln. Stish Strittmaner Sturla surra Tangetli Taylor, E. Z. Taylor, I. Thomas T i y e Travaglio Trello Tnch True Tulli v,,, Van Home Veon Vitali Walko Washington Waugh wogan Wuzniak Wright, D. R. Wright, M. N. Yewcic Youngblood L i m e m a n %up

R Y ~ R Speaker

A Resolution proclaiming the week of April 24 through 29, 1995, as . "Lions Sight and Irearing Conservation W e e k in Pennsylvania.

On the question, w

Will the House adopt the resolution 7

I The following roll call was recorded:

The majority having voted in the afirmativc, thc qucstion was determined in the afirmalivc and the resolution was adopted.

Argall Armstrong

IC Barley Banisto Bebko-Jones Belardi Belfanti Bimclin Bishop Blaurn Boscola Boyes Brown Browne Bunt Butkovitr Buaon Cnltagirone Cappabianca Cam Carone Cawley Chadwkk Civera Clark Clymer Cohen, L. I. Cohen, M. Colafclla Co la t~ ro Conti Comell Corpora Corrigan Coy curry Daley DeLuca Dempsey Dent Demody DeWecso DiGirolamo Donatucci Dtuce Durham Egolf

Fairchild Fait Fargo Farmer Feese Fichter Fleagle Flick Gamhle Gannon Oeist George Gigliotti Gladeck Godshall Gordner Cmitra ~ P P O

llahay llaluska Hanna IIarhafl Hasay Hennessey Herman Hershey Hess Horsey Hutchinsan ltkin Jadlowiec James Jarolin Josephs Kaiser Keller Kcnney King Kirkland k b s Kukovich LaCrona Laughlin I.awless Ixderer Leh 1.cscuvitz Ixvdansky I .lovd I.ucyk

L p c h Maitland Major Manderino Markosek Marsico Masland Mayernik McCall McGcehan McGill Melio Merry Michlovic Micozrie Mihalich Miller Mundy Nailor Nickol Nyce O'Bricn Olasl Oliver Perzel Pesci Petrarca Petrone pettit Phillips Piccola Pistella Pitts Plat& Preston Ram08 Raymond Readshaw Reher Richardson Rieger Roberts Robinson Roebuck Rnhrer Raoney Rubley Rudy Sainato Santoni

NAYS-0

NOT VOTING-I

Salher Saylor Schroder

w Schuler Scrimenti Semmel Saafini Shaner S h ~ h a n Smilh, B. Smith, S. H. Snyder, D. W. Staback Stairs Steelman - Steil Stcm Stctler Stish Strmmaner Sturla Surra l'angrclli Taylor, E. Z. Taylor, J. Thomas T i y e Travaglio Trello Trich True Tulli Vance Van Home Veon Vitali Walko Washington Waugh Wagan Wozniak Wright, D. R. Wright, M. N. Yewc~c Youngblood J Zimmeman

I Williams

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The majori ty havlng voted in the affirmative, thc question w a s determined i n the a f f ~ r m a t i and the resolution was adopted.

1995 LEGISLATIVE JOURNAL - HOUSE 873

N A Y S 4

NOT VOTING-2

kXCIJSk1)-3

Lvans Retnard Cowell

SUPPLEMENTAL CALENDAR B

DtGtrolamo Leh Rubley ZuE Donatuccl Lescovstz Rudy D ~ c e Levdansky Sa~nato R Y ~ R Durham Lloyd Santont Speaker

Roebuck Williams

RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO RULE 35 I Ms. BEUKO-JONES called u p HR 114, PN 1540, entitled: I Cowell Evans

A Resolution s a lu t i n~ rhe City of Erie a s it observes the bicentennial celebration of 1995. T h e majority having voted in the affirmative, the question was

determined in the affirmative and the resolution was adopted.

On the question,

Will the liousc adopt the resolution 7

The following roll call was recorded:

YEAS-198

Adolph Egolf Allen Fairchlld Argall Fajt .AnMrong Fargo Baker Farmer Bard Feese Barley Ftchtor Banisto Fleagle BehkuJones Flick Belardi Gamhle

I.ucyk Sather l.ynch Saylor Mailland Schroder bldor Schuler Manderino Scrirnentc Markosok Semmel Marsico Serafini Masland Shaner Mayemik Shcehan McCall Smith. H.

I SUPPLEMENTAL CALENDAR C

BILLS ON SECOND CONSIDERATION

T h e following hills, having been called up, were considered for . the s econd t ime and agreed to, and ordered transcribed for third consideration:

HB 431, PN 451; HB 537, PN 565; and HB 1032, PN 1434.

CALENDAR CONTINUED

BILL ON THIRD CONSIDERATION Beifanti Gannon McGeehan Smith S H. I Rimelin Geist McGill Snyder, D. W. Bishop George Melio Slahack Blaum Gigliont Stars Mm?. Boscola (iladeck hlichlovic Steelman Boyer Godshall Micozzie Scoil Brow Gordner Llihalich Stem

Caltagirune Cappabianca Cam Carone Cawley Chadwick Civern Clark Clymer Cohen, L. I. Cohen, M. Colafell8 Colaizzo Conti Cornell Corpora Corrigan Coy curly Daley DeLuca 1)emp~ey Dent Drmady IIeWecse

T h e t i ouse proceeded to third consideration of HB 14, PN 12, entitled:

An Act pmvrding for a loan program for local police agencies funded by a bond issuance. establishine the Police Anencv Loan Division in the

Browe Gmitra Mtlla Stetler Runt &PPo Mundy Stish Rutkovilz Habay Nailor Strinmatter Ruxion tlaluska Nickol Sturla

llanna Harhart Haray llenncssey llerman Hershey Hess Horsey llutchinson ltkin Jadlowiec James Jarolin Josephs Kaiser Kellcr Kemey King Kihland Krehs Kubovich l a e o t t a I.aughlln Lawless Lcderer

- " 2

Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency, and conferring powers and duties on the Secretary of the Commonwealth and the Legislative Reference Bureau.

Nycc O'Brien Olasr Oliver Pcrrel Pssc, Petrarca Pctrone Pettit Phillips Piccola Plstella Pins Plans Preston Kamos Kaymond Readshaw Reber Richardson Rieger Roberts Robinson Rohrer Rooncy

Surra Tangreni Taylor, E. Z. Taylor, J. lhomar Tigue Travaglio l'rello Trich TNe Tulli V a n e Van Home Veon Vital, Walko Washington Waugh Wogan Womiak Wright, D. R. Wright, M. N Yewcic Youngblood Iimmeman

O n the question, Will the House agree to the bill on third consideration7

I Mr. WAUGH offered the following amendment No. A1702:

Anlend Sec 501, page 4, lines 28 and 29, by striking out "be for not less than $5.000 nor more than $200,000"and inserting

not exceed 50% of the total cost or $200,000, whichever is less.

Amend S e c 501, page 4, line 30, by striking out "vehicles or" Amend S e c 501. page 5, line 1, by striking out "$100,000" and

inserting $20.000. A loan under subsection (a) for the purchase, maintenance or repair oivehicles shall not cxcccd 509'0 o i t he total cost or $100,000, whichever is

I less.

O n the question,

Will the I Iouse agrce to the amendment?

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The SPEAKER. On that question, the Chair recognizes the gentleman from York, Mr. Waugh.

Mr. WAUGEI. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment 1702 deals with what 1 believe should make this bill

more fair when we compare - and by the way, we have been comparing - Mr. Tanp t t i ' s proposal to the volunteer loan assistance program for our volunteer fire service people.

There are a number of differences. I would be happy to recite than, but the d5crences that I am dealing with today have to do with the caps on loan amounts and primarily what those loans could be used for.

My amendment would, first of all, change, under the facilities loan provisions of this bill, from a $200,000 maximum loan to language that is typical, in fact, exactly the same as the volunteer fire loan program by saying you could borrow $200,000 or 50 percent of the project, whichever is less. That is the way the volunteer loan progam is currently writtcn.

Secondly, undcr the vehicles loan provision, currently under the volunteer loan program you can bomow $100,000 or 50 percent, whichever is less. That is what my amendment docs to this bill.

Lastly, under the volunteer fire loan program, there is a category, a third category, known as miscellaneous equipmcnt. The Tangretti proposal does not havc a separate category for miscellaneous equipment. My amendment would create that third category and actually would exceed the volunteer loan program by a bit, so that is giving some, but it would say that you would be limited to a $20,000 maximum for miscellaneous equipment. Again, the volunteer fire loan program currently allows for a $10,000 maximum on miscellaneous equipment.

I believe that Uus amendment brings the Tangretti proposal more in line with what we are providing today for our volunteer fire service folks in our commun~ties. The original intent of any program like Uus - and 1 am going to base it on the volunteer loan program - was to provide some assistance in purchasing equipment and building facilities for the volunteer fire service. This proposal takes it sort of a step further by saying we are gong to assist municipal police departments.

I am not going to argue, at least not on this amcndment, whether that is goad or bad. All I am saying is that if we are going to create a program for municipal police, then I believe, in all fairness, that program should be in line with, not morc generous than, what we are providing for our volunteer fire services.

The way it is written without this amendment, it is much morc generous than the volunteer fire loan program, and I believe that is wrong. 1 would appreciate your support. Thanli you, Mr. Speaker.

The SPEAKEK. The Chair thanks the gentleman. The Chair recogzcs the gentleman from Westmoreland County,

Mr. Tangretti. Mr. TANGWI'TI. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate very much Representative Waugh's

intentions, and I know that he is sincere in what be is doing. But I just want eveybody to know that I support the firemen and havc supported the firemen, as anyhody else has in this House, because it is needed, but we do not necessarily have to have a program exactly the same for the policemen.

If we need to make the fire department loan program more liberal in terms of what they may be able to get by virtue of their loan program, then let us do that, and I am willing to work toward that end, but that oughl not to he a reason to somehow limit this particular proposal, which, in its intent, is to provide for something that does

not exist today, and that is moneys to the local governments, to our municipal governments, for equipment and vehicles and buildings so that Uley can provide moneys to hue addilional policemen to put them on the street. These arc the inmviduals who every day put their life on the line, and we need to do something for them as we do with the 4 fire departmcnt.

If this amcndment goes in, it really, really restricts and reduces the amount of effectiveness that we will have with respect to this progran1.

A $20,000 h i t on equipmcnt is ludicrous on its face, and I say thatu~th all due respect to my friend, given the nature of some of the costs of some of those kinds of things that policc departments need - $6,000 for car radios, $17,000 for cars, 1,300-and-some dollars for weapons and various accessories. If you have a police J department with 2 or 3 or 5 or I O members with that kind o fa limit, where are you golng?

A n d M c r , torequire a 50-percent match, which literally this is, in my opinion, we have eliminated - eliminated - a number of municipalities, if not the majority of municipalities, who would have to partakc or would want to partake in this program.

It is unfair then to have a more wealthy community be able to provide the match against those poorer communities that we all represent who will not be able to provide the match, that may have more serious crime problems that they havc to deal with.

I think this is wrong. With all due respect to my good friend, Mr. Waugh, I would ask that we not vote for this ameildment. Thank you.

The SPEAKER. The Chair thanks the gentleman.

GUESTS INTRODUCED

The SPEAKER. The Chair at this time wclcomes to the hall of the House, as guests of Keprescntative Richardson, the students from the I'astorious Elcmentq School in Philadelphia, herc undcr the direction of Ms. Sandra llightowcr and Mr. .lohnson. The pcsts, I believe, are in the balcony. Will the pes t s please risc.

Thc Chair is also pleased to acknowledge today the guests of Representative Kirkland, students from the Chester I ligh School in Ilelaware County, the members of the Science Club, who are herc , along with their advisers, Ms. Delores Wright, Prof. John Linder, Mrs. 1.ivia Sm~th, and thcy are In the balcony. Would they please risc.

CONSIDERATION OF HB 14 CONTINUED

The SPEAKER. The Chair r ecopzes the gentleman from Bucks County, Mr. Mclio.

Mr. MELIO 'Thank you. Mr. Spcaker. w 1 rise to oppose the Waugh amendment I think it would be a s~nous mistake to put caps on the amount of

munq that th~. policcmen could try to get, because in my particular distlict, thcy were hard-pressed to get safcly bulletproof vests. They did not have the money, and to put that kind of a limit would have cnahled thein to he 111 bad statc again, not hav~ng the moncy to huy those vests.

Our budget for the policc d~pmtmcnt is a very high part of the pie- in Bristol Towstup and Middletown 'Township, so I would hope my collcagucs would oppose this amendment, Thank you.

'The SPENU:R 'Ihc Chair recogxnlzes the gcntlcinan, Mr. Slurla, from 1,ancastcr County.

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Mr. STUK1.A. Mr. Speaker, will the maker of the amendment rise for a brief interrogation '?

The SPEAK1:K. The gentleman, Mr. Waugh, consents to interrogation. You may begin. m-. SI'UR1.A. Thank you. Mr. Speaker, 1s it the gcntleman's intention that- The $300,000

total limit would stdl apply. is that correct 7 Mr. WAIJGI I. That is cotTect. 'There 1s no change lo that. Mr. S'TIJRLA. Okay. And what you are saying basrcally is that

b t ~ a u x you n o d to prondc 50 percent locally, that in essence, if you wanted to get to the full filndrng leucl, you would have a $600,000 project to get to that full fmding level is that correct?

Mr. WA(JGH. No. M r S'TIJR1.A. In other words. you would have to locally he

spending $600,000 total m order to get to the $300,000 level that you would be drawrng down from the State.

Mr. WAIJGI I . If you arc borrowing ulder the - let me thrnk about that - if you are borroaing under the hurlding loan or the vchicle loan portrons, that is correct

llyousit down \\,ithpcncil and paper and plugged in $20,000 for cqupmcnt, you probahly would not have to go quitc to $600,000, but essentially that is con-ect.

Mr. STlJKLA. Okay. One furthcr question then. Under the way the hrll is currently written - and 1 am assuming

this is why you arc do~ng the amendment - basically, if you had a one-man police deparimcnt, you could fully fund your one-ma1 p o k e departmcnt with the $300,000 that you could pull down from the State, and what you are saying is, you want to g1r.e sonre opportunity to somc larger dcpartn~ents also to compete for somc of this money becaucc thcy are going to supply 50 pcrcent of 11 and thcy cannot fully fund their depart~nent with that. Is that correct?

Mr. WAUGI I I cannot answer your question, whether you could fully fund a department wlth $300,000- 1 do not know the answer to that.

Certainly, ifyou rnct thc criferla ibr thc loan - that is; if you had a department that provides I helieve it is 40 hours of protection per \reek for the prcvrous I X months - you could apply for and prohahly receive a $300,000 loan under any olthc three catcgorics

Beyond that: the second part of your questlon as to spread~ng it around, I helievc thal is - and that was a polnt I was going to makc on my second statclncnt - I think i t is important that we do try to spread the money around. lhcrc is only going to he X amount of dollars available under the bond issue, and I helieve one of the beauties of the volunta~ fire loan program in the past has bcen - and by the way, I think cvcqone here bows it has hccn an extremely, cstrLliely successful pro@-am - but one ofthc rcasons it has been so successful, I belleve, 1s hccausc we havc thcse limits, and it allous for all of UIL1 departlnmts, large or small, to have access to those loan moneys. They are not gobbled up by one particular slze department in one region of the State. 'l'hcre is enough money - at least ihwc has bcen m the past - enough money there that any sib: department from any region olthe State has access for thrs assistance.

I do not helleve these pmgrarns are intended to fully fund or completely outfit a police force, so it does spread ~t around some, and I think that is a good point

Mr. S7URI.A. 'l'hanh jou, MI-. Spcahcr~ I f ~ i \vould hc appnlpnatc, I would lihc to make a hrlcf co~mment. 'The Sl'liAKliR Thc gentleman I S in order.

Mr. STIJRLA. Mr. Speaker, for the reasons outlined by the maker of the amendment, I believe I am going to support this amendment.

As someone who represents a district that has a police department that would obviously benefit from this, 1 would hate to see small one-man departments be the ones that gobble up all this money, and I believe wrth the number of one-man departments that there are out there, there is a potential for that to happen. And so for those of us that represent midsize cities or even communities that have a relatively decent s i ~ e policc force - 10, 15, 20, in o w case 100-and-some members - I believe t h s makes more sense.

So 1 rise in support of the Waugh amendment. Thank you. 'The SPEAKEK. On the question for the second time, the

gentleman, Mr. Waugh. Mr. WAUGtT. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just like to ask the members for their support on the

amendment. I will sort of throw the comment back to Mr. Tangretti. With all

due respect, I understand his arguments on this, but quite honestly, when I hear we have two-, three-, five-man departments and that their equipment costs $5,000 or $10,000 or even $20,000 for an automobile that they drive as a police cruiser, our volunteer fire departments are canying rosters of 20 and 30 people. The gear on their backmay not bc a bulletproof vest, but it is breathing apparatus, turnout gear, boots, and gloves that cost just as much. Their equipment costs probably 10 times as much as a police cruiser. When we buy fire equipment today, it is- I would say an average cost ofan engine, for example, today is probably close to $200,000, maybe $150,000 if you arc lucky.

'The arguments go both ways, Mr. Speaker. I helieve my point today to you, in asklng for support, is, we need to create a program that is fair on both sides of thc spectrum.

I ask for your support ofthis amendment. Thank you. The SPEAKER. For the second time on the question, the

gentleman, M-. Tangrctti. Mr. TANGEl"T1. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Once again, I want to draw the members' attention to the

cornpanson that Represcntative Waugh has made with respect to the lire department. I do not, agaln, necessarily nor want to equatc this program with that one even though they are structured the same. We are talk~ng about two different krnds of programs to the extent that ihcy deal with t\uo d~fl"rcnt kinds of issues, havc two d~fferent kinds of nccds.

We havc thls tremendous crime problem that we are all deahng w ~ t h (iovemor kdgc has established, as we all h o w - and we have bnn working months and months on this - a special session dealing wrth crrme T h ~ s is a11 effort to do exactly what the Governor has instructed this legislature and what we have been willing to do, and thal is, deal with crrmc at the frontline lcvel Those individuals who cvcy day must meet that crim~nal in the hack alley or on the street or chase them in a car, we nced to help hlm.

'The former Cornmissloner of Corrections, Mr. Lehman, presented to us informatron, statistics developed by his department that ~ndicatcd for every 1.000 violent crimes that are committed in the Commonwealth, only 500 arrests are made, and we are dealing in a vny extensive way wlth those people who are arrested. What about the people who arc not arrested'? We need to give those policemen the ability to makc those arrests; we nced to make more arrests. We are hang hampered, by vlrtue of thrs amendment, in that regard.

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876 LEGISLATIVE JC Additionally, in this Commonwealth we have approximately

1,200 municipal police departments - 873 municipalities have their o w police departments, 2 15 are covered by their police department with part-time officers, 97 police forces under contractual mangements to provide coverage to local nearby communities, and 23 wmlidated regional police departments. Are we saying that we want to limit the majority of them by virtue of this requirement of a match, because that is what we are saying. That is what we are saying. We are going to say you cannot apply for these funds just because you are not wealthy enough to meet the match. That is unfair, and I will say it again. I believe, notwithstanding what my good friend from Lancaster has said, that those individuals who have the most difficult crime situations will be shut out of this consideration because of this amendment.

And finally let me just say, every municipality in this Commonwealth is restricted in terms of the debt that they can incur. They cannot bo l~ow beyond the wealth of the community, based on very limited criteria, based on the wealth of the property of the communi(y.

We are not going to have one- and two-man part-time police forces taking the majority of that money because they would not be able to survive- If they only have a one- or two-man police department, part-time basis, certainly they do not have the kind of need that a community like Lancaster or York would have, and as a consequence, it would be commcnsurate and relative with respect to

m e or what they would need versus York or 1.ancaster or Chester or E anywhere else.

I ask you, please, to consider this very carefully. Do not make thc mistake of thinking that somehow we need to provide this mechanism forresh~cimg h s money in some way of making it equitable with the volunteer fire company, because that is not what this is about. This is about fighting crime, and if you pass this amendment, we are not doing that. Tlus money will not get to those communities that need to have access to it.

We put the $300,000 limit over a 5-ycar period for this vely reason. We did not want the larger communities to he able to gobble all the money up. Now, somehow that is turned around and somehow some community like Manor Borough, that our good friend, Representative Kukovich, comes from, with a part-time police force, is going to walk away with $300,000 That is ludicrous on its face. That does not make any sense.

So I ask you once again to pleasc consider this, and I ask for a "no" vote. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

On the question recurring, Will the House agree to the amendment?

The following roll call was recorded:

Adolph Allen Armstrong Baker Bard &ley Bimelin

B r a m Bunt Buaon

Fargo Farmer Feese Fichter Fleagle Flick G m o n Geist Gladeck Godshall

Maitland Major Marsico Masland McGill Merry Micorrie Miller Nickol Kyce O'Brien

Seralini Sheehan Smith, B. Smith, S. H. Snyder, D. W Stain Steil Stem Stetler Stish Strittn,aner

Il'RNAL - HOUSE ' 1

APRIL 18 Caltagirone Carone Chadwick Civera Clark C l p e r Cohen, I,. 1. Conti Cornell Dempsey DiGirolamo Druce Durham Egolf Faimhild

'gall Banisto Bebko-Jones Belardi Belfanti Bishop Blaum Boscola Browme Butkovitz Cappabianca Cam Cawley Cohen, M. Colafella Colaizro coqora Corr~gan c o y curry Daleg DeLuca Dent Dermody DeWeese

Hahay P m e l Harhart Penit Hasay Phillips Hennessey Piccola H m a n Pi* Henhey Plans Hers Raymond Hutchinson Reber Iadlowiec Rohrcr K m e y Ruhley King Sather Krebs Saylor Lawless Schroder Leh Schuler Lynch Semmel

Donatusci Manderino Fajt Markosek Gamble Mayemik George McCall Giglioni McGeehan Gordner Mclio Oruitza Mi~.hlovic Haluska Mihalich H m a Mundy Horsey Nailor Itkin Olasz. James Oliver Jarolin Pssci Josephs Petrarca Kaiser Parone Keller Pistella Kihland Preston Kukovich Ramos LaGrona Readshaw Laughlin Richardson laderor Rieger I.cscouitz Roberts lavdansky Rohinson Lloyd Roebuck l ucyk Kooney

NOT VOTING4

Evans Reinard

Taylor, J. True Tulli vance Waugh 1 Wogan Wright, M. N . Zimmmnan

Ryan, Speaker

Rudy Sainato Santoni Scrimenti Shaner Staback Steelman Surra Tanwetti Thomas Tigue Travaglio Trello Trich Van Home Vcon Vitali Walko Washington Williams Wozniak Wright, I>. R. Ycwcic Youngblood

The majority having voted in the aflimative, the question was determined in the affirmat~ve and the amendment was agreed to.

On the question, Will thc llousc agrcc to the bill on third consideration as w

amended Y

Mr. WAUGH offered the follow~ng amendment No. A1704:

Amend Sec 501. page 4. line 25, by inserting after "Purchase" .maintain or repair

Amend Sec 501. page 4. line 26, by inserting alter "Purchase" . maintain or repalr w

On the questton, W~ll the tiousc agree to thc amcndment 7

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LEGISLATIVE JOURNAL - HOUSE The SPEAKER. On the qucstion of amendment 1704, the Chair

recognizes the gentleman, Mr. Waugh. Mr. WAUGH. Thank you again, Mr. Speaker. I believe this amendmcnt is agreed to. It is technical. It has to do

with language in the bill. I would yield to the primc sponsor of the bill. The S P E M R . Does the gentleman, Mr. Tangretti, desire to be

recoenircd on this amendment. 1704?

N A Y S 4

NOT VOTINCrO

EXCUSED-3

Cawell Evans Reinard

On the question recurring, Will thc House agree to the amendment?

&. TANGRE.I.TI. Yes, t&. Speaker. .l.his is an agreed.to amendmcnt, I would ask for an

allinnative vote.

The following roll call was recorded:

The majority having voted in the affirmative, the question was determined in the affirmative and the amendment was agreed to.

Adolph Allen Argall Armstrong Baker Bard Barley Banisto Bebko-Jones Belardi ReIranti Birmelin Bishop Blaum Boscola Boyes uro\un Browne Bunt Butkovitr Buaon Caltagirone Cappahianca Cam Carone Cawley Chadwick

Fairchild Fajt Fargo Farmer Feese Fichter Fleagle Flick Gamble Gannon Gfist George Ciigliotti Gladeck Godshall Gordner crmitra ~ ~ P P O Habay Ilaluska H m a Harhart llasay Ilcnncsse) tlerman Hershey Hess

Maitland Major hlanderino hlarkosek Marsico Masland Mayemik McCall McGeehan hlcGill Melio Meny Michlovic Micorrle Mihalich btiller Mundy Nailor Nickol Nvce O'Brien Olasl Oliver Pcrcel Pesci I'etrarca Petrune

Saylor Schroder Schuler Smimenti Semmel Serafini Shancr Sheohan Smith, B. Smith, S. H. Snyder, D W Staback Staln Steelman Stcil Stem Stetlcr Stish Strinmatler Sturla Suna Tangrcni Taylor, F.. Z. Taylor, J. Thomas 'Tigue Trauaglio

Civera Horsey Penit ~ r e l l d Clark Ilutchioson Phillips Trich Clymer lthtn P!cuola True Cohen, L. I. Jadlowiec Pistella Tullt Cohen. hl. Jamcs Pins Vance Colafella CCIIPIUO Conla Comcll Corpora Conigan Coy C U T

Dalsy DeLuca Dcrnpsc, Dent Dermody 1)eWecse DtGnrolamo Donatucci h c e Durham Egoll'

Jaroltn Josephs Kaiscr Kcllrr Krnnzy King klrkland krchs Kukovtch I.a(irotta 1,aughlm I . a~ les s I.cdi.rcr L.ch I.CSCOYI~'Z I rvdasrk\ 1,loyd I .ucyh I .ynch

Platts Preston Ramos Raymond Readsha* Rsbsr Richardson Rieger Kohsrls Kohlnson llochuck Rohrer Kooney Ruhley Rudy Sainato Salllolli Salhrr

Van Home \'eon Vitali Wvlko Washington Waugh h'illiams Wogan Worniak Wrighl. I). R. Wright, M N. Yewcic Youtlgblood Ximmerman 7,ug

Ryan. Spcskrr

On the question recurring, Will the House agree to the bill on third consideration as

amended?

RULES SUSPENDED

The SPEAKEK. The Chair understands that the gentleman, Mr. Tangretti, desires recognition for the purpose of suspending the rules in order to consider a technical amendment. Is that correct?

Mr. TANGKEfI'I. That is correct, Mr. Speaker, with the exception that it is really two clarifying technical amendments if you will pennit, A1827 and A1879, which the majority leader has agreed to.

The S P m R The question before the House is suspension of the rules for the ptuposc ofoffering an amendment. On that question, thosc in favor of suspending the rules to allow Mr. Tangretti only to offer an amendment- The Housc will yield.

It is my undcrstanding now that the motion before the House is suspension of the rules to permit the offering of amendments, plural. Is that accurate?

Mr. TANGRETTI. I am sony, Mr. Speaker. I did not hear you. 7hc SPEAKEK. It is my understanding that the motion before the

liouse is to permit the rules to be suspended to take amendment Al827, Mr. Tangretti's amendment, Al879, which is Mr. Mayernik's amendment, a n d For what purpose does the gentleman, Mr. O'Rricn, desirc recognition?

Mr. O'BKIEN. Mr. Speaker, I rise to support the motion for susp~nsion of the rules. It is merely a technical amendment, and it is agreed to. Thank you.

'The SPEAKEK. Are you speaking to Mr. ?'anpetti or both amendments ?

Mr. O'BRIEN. Pardon me? The SPEAKER. Are you speaking of both amendmcnts? Mr. O'BKIEN. Yes. The SPEAKEK. All right. The Chair recognizes the gentleman, Mr. Tangretti. Mr. TANGRETTI. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, just to clarify this. The Ilenlocratic statfhad found a citing mistake in HB 14, found

alter thc declaration for amendments some weeks ago, and in agrcemcnt with the majority leader, he graciously agreed that we could suspend the rules for that puwose.

In the interim, Keprcscntativc Mayernik, who had a clarifying amendment dealing with some other issues relatcd to the bill, asked that that he included within that suspension request, and my undcrstanding 1s that 11 was cleared with the majority leader's desk

'The S P E M K . 'That is my understanding.

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878 LEGISLATIVE JOURNAL - HOUSE APRIL 18 On the question of suspension of the rulcs, those in favor mill

vote "aye"; opposed, "no."

On the question, Will the House agrec to the motlon?

The following roll call was recorded:

Adolph Egolf Lucyk Satha Allen Fairchild Major Saylor Areall Fall Mandcrino Schroder &strong ~ a i g o Baker Farma Bard Barley Banisto Behko-Jones Belardi Belfanti Birmelin Bishop Blaum Hoscola Boyes Brown Browne Bunt Bulkovitz Huaon Caltagirone Cappahim~.a Cam Cawlev ~ h a d i i c k Civora Clark Clymer Cohem, L. I. C o h q M. Colafella Colaiuo Conti Cornell Corpora c o r n g m COY curry Daley DeLuca Dempsey Dent Dermody DeWeese DiGirolamo Donatucci Druce Durham

Carone Hanna Krebs

Feese Fichter Fleagle Flick Gamble Cannon Gelst George Giglioni Gladeck Godshall Gordncr Gruitza e"pp0 Rahay llaluska Harhart Haray Hennenney Herman

A majority of thc membcrs elected to the I louse having voted in w the affirmative, the question was determined in the affirmative and the motion was agreed to.

On the question rccuning, Will the Ilouse agree lo the bill on third consideration as

amended ?

Masland Mayemik McCall hlcGoohm McGill Molio Meny Michlovic Micouie hlihalnch Miller Mundy Nailor Nlckol Nyce O'Brien 0lasz Oliver Pcnel Pesa

Markosek Schuler Manico Scrimenti

Rashey Petrarca Hess Petrone Honcy Penit Hutchinson Phillips llkin Piccola Jadlowiec Pistella James Pim Jarolin Prcaon Josephs Ramos Kanser Raymond Keller Readshaw Kenney Reher King Richardson Kirkland Riegsr Kukovich Roherts l a(jrona Robinson Laughlin Koehuck Lawless Rohrsr l ~ d e r e r Rooney Leh Ruhlcy 1.escovstz Rudy lrvdanrky Sainato Lloyd Sanloni

I Mr. TANGRETTI oEcrcd the following amendment No. A1827: 1

Lynch Pbtt\ Maitland Stell

Scmmel Serafini Shmer Sheehan Smith B. Smith, S. H. Snyder, D. W Staback Stairs Steolman Stem Sletler Stish Shttmaner Sturla Surra Tangetti Taylor, E. Z. Taylor, J. Thomas Travaglio Trello l'rich True Tulli Vancc Van Ilome Veon Vitali Walko Washington U'augh Williams Wogm Worniah Wright. D. R. Wright. M. N Yewclc Younghload L~mmerman

Ryan, Soeaker

Amend Sec 301, page 3. lhltc 20. by s t r ~ h ~ n g ou t "702(c)" and . -

inserting 302(c)

On the question, W~ll the ilouse agree to th~. amcndment 7

The S1'I;AKI:K. On the question of the adoption of the amendment, the Chair recog~i/cs thc gcntlcman, Mr. Tangretti.

Mr. TANGNiIl'I. Again, Mr. Speaker, thank you. r

This is a clarify~ng amendment. 'l'hcrc was a wrong citation, a drafting error, and this corrects that, and I would ask for an affirmative vote.

On the question rccuning, W~l l the IIouse agree to the amendment 7

The following roll call was recorded:

Adolph Allen Argall h l u t r o n g Raker Bard Harley Hanisto Behko-Jones Relardi Belfmti Birmelin Bishop Blaum Borcola no yes Brown I3ruwllc Bunt Hulko\,it? 13uhion Caltagimne Cappahianca Cam Caronf Cawley Chadwick Cirera Clark Clymer Cohen, I.. 1. Cohm, hl.

Fanrchild Fajt I:argo F a m w Feesf I:ichter I:leagle I'lick Gamhle Gatlnon Getst George Gcglionc Gladcch Godshall Gordncr GTu~IzB C ~ P P U Hahay Ilalcmha Hnma Harhnrt Hasa) Henncnsey Hcnnan Ilcrshcy HESS Horsey Hulchmson Ithin ladlowicc James

Maitlrnd Major Manderino Markusek Marsico Masland Maycmik SlcCall McGechm McGill Melio h le rq Michlovic M ~ s o z l e lrlihalizh Miller Musdy Na~lor Nick01 Nyce OHrien O l a s ~ Oliver Pcrrcl PEEC~ Pstrarca Petmne Penit Phillips Piccola Pistclla Pi116

Saylor Scluoder Schuler Scrimcnti Sommsl Serafini Shaner Shcehan Smnth. 11. Smith, S. H. Snyder, D. W Staback Slain Steelman Steil Stem

1 Stetler Stish Slrittmatter Sturla Surra Tangetti l.aylar. E. Z. I'aylor, J. 'Thomas rogue 'Travaglio

w l'rello 'l'rich True Tulli Vwce

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1995 LEGISLATIVE J( Colafella Jarulin Plans Van Home Colaino Josephs Preston Veon Conti Kaissr Ramos Vitali Cornell Kcller Raymond Walko Corpora hctu>cy Readshaw Washington corngan King Reber Waugh COY tiirkland Richardson Williams C u m Krebs Kiegcr Wogan Daley Kukov~ch Kobcnq Worniak DeLuca I.a(jrolla Robinson Wnght, D. R. Dempsey laudl l in Roebuck Wright, M. N. Dent Lawles Kohrer Yewcic Dermody Ledcrer Kooney Youngblood IjeWeese I r h Rubley 7,immerman DiGirolamo I . ~ s E o Y ~ ~ Rudy Zug Donatucci I.crdanrkv Sainato Drum I.loyd Santoni R y a ~ Durham I.ucyk Sather Speaker Egolf ILpch

NAY S-0

NO'r VUSIN(;-0

EXCIJSti1)-3

Cowell Evans Kctnard

The majorlty having votcd in ihc afi~inat~\:e, the question was drtermlned in the af f innat~e and the amendment was agrccd to.

On the question recurring,

Will the flousc agrcc to thc hill on third consideration as amended '?

Amend S c c 102 , page 2,llne 30. by insert~ng aner - ' tnunicipal~tv'

o r a s h c r i t r s dcpart~ncnt of a sccund class county Amend S e c 102, page 3, by inscrllng hetwecn lines X and 9

( 3 ) Is sr~bject lo tlic pruvlsions olthc act o r J u n e 18, 1974 (P.1,.35Y.No 120). rcfcrred to as the Mun~cipal Police liducat~on and 'Training [.a\%.

On the qucstion, Will the I lousc agree t o t h c arncndtncnt ''

Mr MAYEKNIK I'hanh you; Mr. Speaker This arncndmcnt expands the dcfinttlon of "Pollce agency" and

includes a s~xond-class county shcrilf s oflice I t also adds qualilj.lng cr~teria requiring the departments to hc suhjcct to provisions in the Municipal l'ollcc Officei-s l!ducatlon and Tlalning Act.

On the question reculslng, Will thc I lousc ague to the amcndmcntq

URNAL - HOUSE 879

Adolph Allen Argall h t r o n g Baker Bard Barley Ranislo Bebko-Jones Belardi Hclfanti Birmelin Hishop Blaurn Boscola Boyes Brown Rrowne Hunt Butkovttz BuxLon Caltagirone Cappabianca Cam Carone Cawley Chadwick Civera Clark Clymer Cohcn, L. I. Cohen, X1 Colafella

Ihrham Egolf Fairchild Fajt Fargo Farmer Fcese Fichter Fleagle Flick Gamhle Ciamon Geist George Gigllotti Ciladeck Godshall Cmit-a ~ P P O 1Iabav Haluska llarhart Hasay llennrnrey Herman Hershey Hcsr Honey llutchinson Ilkin Jadlowiec James Jarnlin

Lynch Maitland Major Mmderino Markosek Marsico Masland Mayemik McCall

Merry Michlovic Micouie Mihnlich Miller Mundy Nailnr Nickol Nyce O'Brien O l a ~ r Oliver Peael Pesci Petrarca Petrone Penit Phillips Pic~.ola Pistella Pins

The SI'EAKtiR. On that qucstlon, the Chair recognircs thc gentleman, Mr. Maymil\

The following roll call \\as rccol-ilcd

Santoni sauler Saylar Schroder Schuler Semmel Serafmi Shaner Sheehan Smith, R. Smith, S. H. Snyder, D. W. Staback Stairs Steelman Steil St- Stdler Stish Strittmaner Sturla Suna 'rangretti 'Taylor, E. Z Taylor, J. Thomas Travaglio Trello Tnch True Tulli Van llome Vean

Colaicro Josephs Plans Vitali Conti Kaiser Preston Walko Cornell Kellcr Ramos Washington Corpora Kcnney Raymond Waugh Conigan King Kcadshaw Williams COY Kirkland Keber Woem C u m 1)aley De1.ui.a 1)cmprsy Dent I ) m o d y DcWecse DiGirolarnu Ilonatucci h c e

lircbs Kukovich InCirotta 1,aughlin Lvwlcss I .edercr Leh I .oscovit- 1.cvdansky I.ucyk

Richardson Kieger Kobe* Robinson Koehuck Rohrer Rooney Kuhlcy Rudy Saindo

NOT V O T I N G 4

IXXCI JSED-3

Cowell Lrans Retnard

Womiak Wright, D. R. Nr"'nght, M. N Yewcic Youngblood Zimmerman

R Y ~ R Speaker

'The niaioritg having volcd in the aifirmativc, the question was dctcrmincd in thc aflirmativc and the amendment was agreed to.

On the clucstlun ~ccun-lng, Will the I lr,use agree to the bill on third consideration as

arncndcd 7

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880 LEGISLATIVE J01 1

AMENDMENT A1702 RECONSIDERED 1 The SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes the gentleman,

Mr. Kukovich, who moves that the vote by which amendment No. 1702 was passed toHB 14, PN 12, on the 18th day of April be reconsidered.

On the question, Will the House agree to the motion?

The following roll call was recorded:

dolph Allen Argall W o n g Baker Bard Barley Banisla Bebko-Jones Belardi Belfanti Birmelin Bishop Blaurn Boscola Boyes Brown Broulle Bunt Butkovitz Bunton Caltagirone Cappabianca Cam Carone Cawley Chadwick Civera Clark Clymer Cohen, L. I. C o h a M. Colafclla Colaino Conti Comell Corpora Corrigan COY cuny Daley DeLuca Dempsey Dent Dermody DeWeese DiGirolamo Donatucci Druce Durham Egolf

Fairchild Fajt Fargo Farmer Feese Fichter Fleagle Plick Gamble G m o n Geist George Gigliolii Gladeck Godshall Gordner Gtuitza *PP~ Habay Haluska H m a Harharl Hasay Hcnnessey Herman Hershey Hess Horsey Hutchinson ltkin Jadlowiec James Jarolin Josephs Kaiser tieller tienney King Kirkland Krebs Kukovich IaGrotta Laughlin lswless Lederer l a h Lescovitz I.evdansky Lloyd Lucyk Lynch

Maitland Major Manderino Markosek Marsico Masland Mayemik McCall McGeehao McGill Melio men^ Michlovic Micouie Mihalich Miller Mundy Nailor Nickol Nyce O'Brien Olasl Oliver Penel Pesci Petrarca Parone Pettit Phillips Piccola Pistella Pi& Pla& Preston Ramos Raymond Readshaw Reber Richwdsuo Rieger Roberts Kob,nson Roehuck Rohrer Kooney Ruhley Rudy Sainato Santoni Sather

Saylor Schroder Schuler Smimenti Semmel Serafini Shaner Sbeehan Smith B. Smith, S. H. Snyder, D. W. Staback Stam Stecln,an Steil Stem Stetler Stish Strillmatter Sturla Surra Tangreni Taylor, E. 2. Taylor, J. 'Thomas Tigue Travaglio Trella Trich True Tulli Vance Van Home Veon Vitali Walko Washington Waugh Williams U'ogan Worniak Wright, D. R. Wright, M. N. Yewclc Youngblood Z~mmeman Lug

Ryan. Speaker

NOT V0'IING-O

NAY S-0

JRNAL - HOUSE APRIL 18 EXCUSED-3

I

Cowell E v a Reinard

The majority having voted in the affirmative, the question was *

determined in the &~rmative and the motion was agreed to.

On the questlon recurnng, W~ll the House agree to the amcndment 7

The clerk read the following amendment No. A1702:

Amend Sec. 501, page 4, lines 28 and 29, by striking out "be far not less than $5,000 nor more than $200,000." and inserting

not exceed 50% of the total cost or $200,000, whichever is less.

Amend Sec 501, page 4. line 30, by striking out "vehicles or" Amcnd Sec. 501. page 5. line 1. by striking out "$100,000." and

inserting $20,000. A loan under subsection (a) for the purchase, maintenance or repair

t ofvehicles shall not exceed 50'6 of the total cost or $100,000, whichevcr is less.

On the question recurnng, Will the House agree to thc amendment?

The SPENCER. The question recurs, will the House agree to the Waugh amendment A1702 which passed the Flouse I01 to 99? On the question of the Waugh amendment, the Chair recognizes Lhe gentleman, Mr Waugh.

Mr. WAUGH. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 1 am not going to go through it all again, but 1 am just going to say

this. We heard that this bill was a crime bill; it is a crime-fighting bill. If we do not go with it without my amendment, crime is not going to be fought.

I am going to put it in the context of the volunteer loan program - again. 1 agree, crime is important. I have supported most of the bills that our Governor has brought to us. I have been a cosponsor of many. Crime is important, hut, Mr. Speaker, each and every day on probably e v q street, I should say on a street in evcly district in (his . Ilouse, a fire engine or an ambulance or a rescue squad responds to an important call also.

Tell me how many people have been involved in serlous crime in your community and tell me how many times your fire service personnel have responded to a house fire or an automobile accident, and 1 think you will soon src that just as Important as crime are the emergency services in this State. To say that somchow municipal agencies dcserve to have a program that is more than what our volunteer loan programs are I think is wrong. It is that simple.

I believe they need to hc on the same level I ask for your support again.

The SPEAKER. On the question, the Chair recognizes the gentleman, Mr. 'langretti.

Mr. TANGREI'TI. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, just once again let me clar~fy, this is not a

competltlon, not a competition hetwecn our volunteer fire companics * and our mun~cipal policc departments. 'This is not a competition. This is not and/or.

If we need to do mow fol- the volunteer fire company, I will join Representative Waugh in trying to do that. If we need to liberalize the

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1995 LEGISLATIVE JOURNAL - HOUSE 881 loan agreements, the amount of money, the terms, whatever it takes, 1 will do that. I have supportcd them, as many other members, if not all of than, have in the past on this floor. Do not make the mistake of drawing that comparison. We are not saying that. I am not saying that.

This is in addition to. It is not something that we can just turn our heads toward. We have people who need to havc sophisticated equipment who do not have access to it now because municipal budgets cannot afford it. We are putting in place somehng that does not exist, and to willy-nilly decide that a large portion of our municipalities will not have access to this loan money because they cannot afTord it, this match, I think is wrong. And to somehow dram the comparison that a fircman is in as dangerous a position as policemen is not addressing ihc issue. It begs the issue. That is not the issue.

Of course firemen havc difficult jobs. Their lives are on the line as well as policemen. I am not in any way indicating to the contraly. hut we do not want in this context of this hill to eliminate hundreds of municipalities and their policemen from having the kinds ol

Browne Butkovitr Bunton Caltagirone Cappabianca Cam Cawley Cohen, M. Coldellella Colaizo Corpora Comigan COY CUny Daley Del.uca Dent Demody DeWeese

H m a Mihalich Horsey Mundy ltkin O'Brien James O l m Jarolin Oliver Josephs Pesci Kaiser Petrarca Keller Petrone Kenncy Pistella Kirkland Bedon Krebs Ramos Kukovich Readshaw Lachotla Richardson Laughlin Rieger Lederer Roberts 1.escovitr Robinson Levdansky Roebuck Lloyd Rooney

NOT VOTING4

Tangrpni Taylor, J. Thomas Tigue Travaglio Trello Trich Van Home Veon Vitali Walko Washington Williams Wogan Womiak wnght, D. R Yewcic Youngblwd

equipmentthat they would need to have to fight crime just because Cowell Evans Rclnard

they cannot afford it. We need not to do that here today, so 1 ask you, please, not to

support this amendment. Thank you I Less than the majority having voted in the affirmative, the

On the question recurring,

Will the House agree to the amendment?

The following roll call was recorded

Adolph Allen h t r o n g Baker Bard Barley Birmelin Boyes Brown Bunt Carone Chadwick Civera Clark Clymer Cohen, L. I. Conti Cornell Dempsey Ditiirolamo h c e Durham Egolf Fairchild Fargo

Argall Banisto Bebko-Jones Belardi Belfanti Bishop Blaum Boscola

question was detetmincd in the negative and the amendment was not agreed to.

On the question recurring, Will the House agree to the bill on third consideration as

F m e r Feese Pichter Fleagle Flick Gannan Geist tiladeck Godshall (jruppo Habav

Major Manico Masland Mctiill Merry Micozzie hliller Nailor Nickol Nyce Pezel

AarhPill Pettit Hasay Phillips llennessey Pi~.cola Herman Pius Hershey Plans Hess Kaymond Hutchinson Keber Jadlowiec Rohror King Rubley Lawless Saiher Leh Saylor Lynch Schroder Maitland Schuler

Donaiucci l,ucyk Fajt Maindenno Gamble Markosek George Mayemik tiigliotti McCall Gordner McGeehm Oruilra Melto Haluska Michloviu

Semmel Serafini Sheehan Smith, B. Smith, S. H. Snyder, D. W Stain Stoil Stem Stetler Stish Strillmatter Sturla Taylor, E. Z. T& Tulll Vance Waugh Wright, M. N Zimmeman Z.ug

Ryan, Speaker

Kudy Salnato Santoni Scrnmenti Shaner Staback Steelman Suna

AMENDMENT A1879 RECONSIDERED

The SPEAKER. The gentleman, Mr. Gordner, moves that the vote by which amendment No. 1879 passed to HB 14, PN 12, on the 18th day of April be reconsidered.

On the question, Will the House agree to the motion?

The following roll call was recorded:

Adolph Nlen Argall Armstrong Baker Bard Barley Banlsto Bebko-Jones Bclardt B~lfantl B tmel~n flishap Hlaum Boscola Boyes Brown Browne Bunt Butkovilz Bunton

Egolf Lynch Fairchild Maitland rajt Major Fargo Manderino Farmer Markosek Feese Manico Fichta Masland Fleagle Mayemik Fllck McCall

George Giglioni Gladeck Godshall Gordner Gruilza (irUPP0 Habay Haluska

Merry Michlovic Micorzie Mihalich Miller Mundy Nailor Nick01 Nyce

Sather Saylor Schroder Schuler Smimenti S-el Serafini Shaner Sheehan Srnilh, B. Smith, S. H. Snvder. D. W &back Stain Steelman Steil Stem Stetler Stish Strillmaurn Sturla

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squad, DEA. They do patrol, they do enforce, among other sheriff duties.

Since they perfomi the same functions and duties as police o f f t m and have the same education and training, I feel they should be entitled to h s money also, because they are out there evely day in the ~roiec ts and on the street workitlp hand in hand with thc police . . olficers. So that is why we have Allegheny County in there.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker I would ask for an aflirmative vote

On the questton recutslng, W~l l the House agree to the amendment 7

The following roll call %as recorded:

Barley Banisto Himelin Bishop noyes Cam Cohen, M. Daley DeLuca Dermody DeWeese IJiCiirolamo Fast Fargo Farmer (iamhlc

Adolph Allen kgall h s l r o n g Baker Bard Brbku-Jones Brlardi Bclfanti Blaum Hos~.olu H r o w Browns Hunt Butkovilz nuxton Caltagirone Csppahiaoca Carone Cilrlcy Chadwnck Civcra Clark C I y e r Cohcn. I.. I. Colaleila Colairro Conli Corncll Corpora Corrigan C O Y C U T I ) ~ ~ D E C V

Giglioni h i t l a llahay ltkin Kaiser Kenney hirkland Kukovich lzvdansky I.ucyk hlailland Manderino

Olarr Oliver Per~el Pcsci Petrarca Pelr<,ne Pend Pistella Preston Ramor Readshaw RohetTs

Donalucci I .awless Druse I.ederer Durharr I .eh Egolf I _ O S C O Y ~ ~ Z Falrchlld 1.loyd Feese L.ych Flchlcr Malor Flcagle Flick ti,,"" ticist (;e"rgc

tiladeck Ciod~hall Cordner h p p o Ilnlusha H m a Harhari l l a ~ a y Flemcasey Herman tlcrshey IIcss Ilorsev Hutchinon Jadlo\vicc James Jarolin Josephs Keller King b c h s IaCkolla

Kyce O'Brien Phillips

Kay t~~ond Kcher Richardson Ktuger Rochuck Roone, Kuhlcy Rudy Sainatu

Shaner Snyder, D. W. Steil Stish 'Tangati Taylor, J. Thomas Trello True Van llorne Veon Walko wogan Wrighl, M. N. Youngblood

SaUler Saylor Schrader Schuler Scrimenti Serafini Shechan Smtth. B. Smtth, S. H. Stahack Stairs Steelman Stern Stetler Strillmatter Storla s u n a Taylor, t. 7 ligue Travaglio Trich l u l l i Vancc Vltali Washtnmon

\Villiams W u ~ n i a k Wright. D. R Yewuic I~rnrnrrman r u g

. . I)em I.aud~ltn Santont Spcakcr

NOT VOTING4

EXCIJSED-3

Cowell Evans Reinard

1,ess than the majority having voted in the affirmative, the question was determined in the negative and the amendment was not agreed to.

On the question recurring, Will the Flouse agree to the bill on third consideration as

amended 7

Hill as amended was agreed to.

The SPEAKER. This bill has been considered on three different days and agreed to and is now on final passage.

The question is, shall the bill pass finally '? Agmable to the provisions of the Constitution, the yeas and nays

will now be lahen.

(Members procccdcd to vote.)

VOTE STRICKEN

The SPEAKER. Str~kc the vote.

The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Lancaster County, Mr. Armstrong.

Mr. ARMSTRON(;. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can I interrogate the prime sponsor of the bill, please? Thc SPEAKER. The gentleman, Mr. Tangetti, stands for

intcrrogatton. The gentleman, Mr. Armstrong, may begin. Mr. ARMSTRONG Mr. Speaker, do we have an expense of the

State that thc Commonwealth is going to incur with this? Mr. TANGRETTI The Appropriations Committee does have

~nformat~on that thc total cost of the hond issue will he- If you will suspend for onc minute.

Mr. NIMSI'KONG. Mr. Speaker, could I ask you just a process question, whatever'?

Mr. 'I'AN(iKHI'l'1. Mr. Speaker, 1 have the information. I h c SI1k;AKER. The gentleman, Mr. Tangetti, indicates he has

the ~nformatton you seek. 1s that all right? Mr. ARMSTRONG. Well, 1 had a further question, but go ahead,

Mr. Tangrett~. That is fine, Mr. Speaker. Mr TANGKEIII. 'Thank you, Mr. Speaker. T h ~ s is h m the Deputy Secretary of the Hudgct. Fiscal impact:

$200,000 annually for personnel. Startup operating costs to the Commonwealth will be approximately $50,000. The cost of the $20-mtllton hond tssue at a rate of 5.75 pcrccnt would be approximately $12.1 million in intcrcst.

Docs that answer y o u question, sir? Mr ARMSl'RONG. Okay Mr. Speaker, I have in my hand the

fiscal note from the House Committee on Appropriations. Was this fiscal note dtstributcd to all members?

l'hc SPEAKER. A tiscal note to an amendment is distributed. A fiscal note to a bill is not distrihuted.

Mr. ARMSI'IIONC;. Okay

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AU right. Mr. Speaker, you stated that the borrowing cost would be- What was your number that you used on that cost?

Mr. TANGRETTI For a $20-million bond issue at an issuing rate of 5 7 5 percent, which apparently was the going rate at the time, it was $12.1 million in interest.

Mr. ARMSTRONG. Okay. For the total 20 years? Mr. TANGW3"I'I. Yes. Mr. ARMSTRONG. All right. Mr. TANGRETTI. I believe so. Mr. ARMSTRONG. All right. Mr. Speaker, I am done with my

interrogation and would like to make a comment. The S P E m ; R . The gentlcman is in order and may proceed. Mr. ARMSTRONG. I am sony. One further question for the

maker of the bill, the prime sponsor of the hill. The SPEAKER. You may proceed. Mr. ARMSTRONG. Mr. Speaker, I do not know if you stated this

before, but how has the department or the administration responded to your bill? Are they in support of the bill?

Mr. TANGRElTTI. I had thc opportunity to ask, and I guess this is- Well, I had the opportunity to ask the ncw director of the Emergency Management Agency hcfore the House Appropriations Committee. He was interested m 11 in terms of what it would do. IHe reserved judgment with respect to whether it is something that the admistration as such would endorse, but he was open to discussion about it, saw the need for it, and further, I believe - and I do not want to put words in his mouth m y recollection is that he thought it was something that given the nature of what they were able to do, that department, Emergency Management, can do and has done with the volunteer fue departments, that the expertise that they have would be easily transferrahle to the Policc Loan Division.

Mr. ARMSTRONG. Okay. Mr. Speaker, I have in my hands a comment, something that was relayed to mc, that the Governor's Budget Ofice has a concern with the bonds to assist police departments. Is that your reading of any conversations that you may have had ?

Mr. TANGWrTI. I have not had any conversations with the Govemor's Budget Office other than this document which just lays out the costs.

Mr. ARMSTRONG All right. Thank you, Mr. Spcaker. Mr. Speaker, I raised the argument that t h ~ s is a cost to our State

that I do not know if we are ready to assume at this point. We are going inlo our fust budget with this new Governor, Gov. Tom Ridge, and quite frankly, I think that all of us should defer to the Governor for his fust budget and the expenses that this Commonwealth is going to incur, to look at least for some kind of guidance from him as to what he would like to see.

Now, we are in all of this together. I am not trying to shift the responsibility off on him, hut I do believe it is a responsibility we need to be able to share in with the Governor's Oflice, and at this point I do not see a camaraderie or a sharing of that belief that this particular piece of legislation needs to be addressed at this point. maybe in the future. But I for one, since I have been in the House, have also evolved to the feeling that bond issues, as we continue to formulate them and to implement them, are becoming costlier and costlier to our Commonwealth, and we need to pet hack to the hasis ofpaying for what we need, what we want, pay for it today. Why do we continue to put off to tomorrow what we cannot pay for today? It just runs contrary to a couple prlnc~plcs that I have recently begun to really solidify within my own thinking, and I would hope that all of

us would be very, very careful with puttlng forth another bond issuc at this point.

The numbers as to what I see, or looking at the total cost to the General Fund in borrowing $20 million over 20 years, would be $32 million. That is a lot of money. I would ask that all of us would e reflect upon that and cast a vote that would reflect that thinking with HB 14. Thank you very much.

The SPEAKER. The gentleman, Mr. Tangrctti. Mr. TANGRETTI. Thank you, Mr. Spcaker. I appreciate the gentleman, Mr. Armstrong's comments.

C e r t d y , we all need to be fiscally responsible in terms of our duties here on the floor, and certainly, we need to have the Govemor's support as well, although up to this point I am not sure where he is. I would hope to enl~st his support at some polnt in this proccss '1I1' Obviously, we need it.

But I would just offer thc comment that, what price are we willing to pay ? We are spending huge amounts of money, in that cxarnple that I used and those statistics that former Commissioner 1.ehman presented to us, on those people who are arrested, and yet we have not donc anything that 1 am aware of on the front end dealing with - those 500 folks who were not arrested out of those 1.000 violcnt crimes, and the people every day in those 1,200 municipal police departments need to have our help to deal with that issue.

I would suggest, given the nature of the size of our corrections e budget and some of the other things that we have done hcrc and the impact that it is golng to have, $32 mlll~on over 20 years, in relative terms, is not that much money. Now, let us be realistic. We deal in billions here, with a "b." What we have done with respect, for examplc, in terms of bullding ncw prisons, mandatory scnlencing, and all ofthose things are in the billions of dollars, conceivably, over 20 years. Thirty-two million dollars? Come on; let us he rcal~stic about it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The SPEAKER The Chair thanks the gentleman. Thc Chair rea~bnizes the gentlcman from Allegheny County,

Mr. Trello. Mr TREL1.O. Mr. Spcakcr, the remarks that the gentleman made :

from the other side of the a~sle arc very refreshing, and 1 think wc . should all I d in the area of what we can and cannot pay for. I think we should put a pricc tag on the type of clothes we buy, the type of cars we buy, the type of homes we buy, but in today's society, with the crime that we have, we cannot put a pricc tag on puhlic safety, and I ask for support of IM 14. Thank you, Mr. Spcaker.

The SPEAKER. On the question, the gentleman, Mr. Waugh. Mr. WAUGI I. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the prime sponsor of the bill stmd for interrogation? The SPEAKER. The gentleman indicates he will. The gentleman

may proceed. W Mr. WAlJ(iI1. 'Thank you. Mr. Speaker, my question is, do you know if municipal police

departments, whether it is a single municipality, regional, or whatever, have the opportunity tu scll bonds today for money to finance their operations?

Mr. TAN(iW1-1'1 I an1 sony Could you repcat that last part Do they have the ability to do what?

Mr. WAIJCitI. To issue bonds to tinancc thCil- scrv~ccs undcr an author~ty, a policc autho~ity or reg~onal goup, what have you? rrr

Mr. 'I'ANGRKI'TI I am unaware of it. Municipalities havc the ah~lity to matc authuritics Whether they havc thc ability to crcatc an authority for this purpose, I just cannot answcr your quest~on.

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LEGISLATIVE JOURNAL - HOUSE Mr. WAIJGI1. Is there anyone that could answer that, because

that is a- Mr. TANGRITTI. I am lookmg around. I was seeing if there was

someone in the room that would know that. I cannot answer your question, Mr Speaker.

Mr. WAIJGI I Okay. Mr. TANGRETTI. 1 would only offer that if they did have the

authaity to do that, the wst of horrowing at that level versus the cost of h o m i n g over 20 years for $20 million would he a whole lot less.

Mr. WAUGH. Thank you That is thc end of my interrogat~on. If I could make a comment,

Mr. Speaker '7 The SI'EhKER. The gentleman IS in order and may proceed. Mr. WAUGH. Thank you Mr. Speaker, I do not know the answer to that question either, so

I was not hying to sct you up, hut it runs in my mind that municipalities, through the organizallon of some sort of an authority, can cut their own honds and issue thcir own honds, particularly in the case of regionalized police for-ccs and so forth. So I guess thc first wmm~mt 1 would like to make is that if it is possible that this type of program could he admlnistcred at the local level, I think - and it is obvious we are not sure; wc do not have an answer here today - 1 think it would be he~ieficial to explore that possibility and see if in fact thesc types of funds can be made ava~lahle at the local level. First, I would suggest that.

Obviously, volunteer hrc departments, I think I am correct in saying, do not have thc authority to lssuc tl~ese types of honds, and I w~ll go back to my point I know Mulr. 'Tangrctti continues to say this is not a comparison 'Thc fact is, wc do not deal with a whole lot of issues here in the I lousc that come this close to running a parallel. 'This 1s a comparlson, and 1 will makc my point oncc more and say that I plan to vote agarnst this hill

I would likc to get on record tliat, as I stid earlicr, I support thc crime eifort. I have supportcd it strongly, and quite frankly, there 1s maybc a need for munic~palitres to be given the opportunity to recave assistancc for the fmd~np of thcir policc scrvlces. I know that many times they struggle, hut I \\auld just likc to remind you of this: 1 can allnost assure you that on the heels of this $32- nill lion-for-20-years expenditure 1s going to he the vcn, samc type of a progam for the ~nunicipal lire sc~r,ices. We have s t m those proposals already, and that IS wrth all due respcct to those who may introduce that, hut I can assure you, it is coming, not from me hut from somcolre That mahcs ~t mayhe $64 m~llion, and on and on i t goes.

I am going to cut right hack to the chase and to my 01-iginal argumcnt Thc putposz of the vulunlccr iirc loan program was to provide somc rel~cf and sornt: assistance, not total funding but some rel~zf and somc assistancc. to the <)rganizations in t h ~ s State who do not have the opponunity to cc~llcct rcvcllucs tluc~ugh taxation or any other furm of municipal authorit! 'Tl~c sollmtccr fire scrvices ~vork on subs and soup sales, Mr. Speaker They need assistance, and thcy nccd it on a level playing licld \vith anyotic clsc.

That is the bottom llnc to ni! a~-@urnult. I an1 going 111 hc \,ut~ng agarnst this Ilvcryunc wtll have to tn;~kc up thcir own mind, I suppnsc. Thank \ou. Mr. Spcahcr

The SPI<AKI:II. i h c C h ~ i ~ r rccogni/cs the gcntlcman, Mr. langretti; l i ~ t the second t~llrc on the issue

Mr '1'ANC;llli'l''l'l 'lharth !uu, Mr Spcakcr- If1 may just ask M I Weugh one questlox Mr. Spcaha- I did not

quitc undc~st:md sorneth~~~g he s a d

The SPEAKER. The gentleman, Mr. Waugh, indicates he will stand for interrogation. The gentleman may proceed.

Mr. TANGW:TTI. Mr. Speaker, if the gentleman would just answer for me- I am sony I missed the part, Mr Speaker, of his statement relative to the mcreaed, escalating costs of the $20-million bond issue. You mentioned $64 million. 1 am not sure how you got it from one to the other.

Mr. WAUGl I. Oh, okay. Mr. TAN(;RE?'TI I missed that. Mr. WAlJGlI. Okay. I will recap it briefly. What I said, Mr. Speaker, was that 1 can almost -and those were

the words - I can almost assure you that on the heels of your proposal, there will be a proposal to create a municipal fire service loan program.

Mr. TANGWT'I'I. For paid fire departments? Mr. WAUGH. That is conect. Mr. TANGETTI. I understand. Mr. WAIJGH. Well, not necessady paid but for municipal career

service organizations. We saw that proposal last session, and I would expect that that is going to follow yours. 'That is fine, but remember that that is going to probahly make it $64 million instead of $32 million.

Mr. TANORET'TI. Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker. If1 may comment now. I gather by your smile you are saying yes. The SPEAKER. Do you want to bet? Mr. TANGRt3"~I. It will he brief. I !hd the point that has lo hemade relative to that is the fact that,

indeed, that is an issue and it should stand or fall on its own merits, unrelated to t h ~ s My recollection is, even when that amendment was offerdprevlously by the gentleman from Lancaster, it was offered as an addtional bond issue in and of itself, if my recollection is correct, and we need to decrdc that, if we want to do it.

And more to the pomt, regardless of how we do it, the voters ulti~natcly are going to have the last say-so. As we all know, bond issues require a rdcrendum. if the voters of this Commona~ealth feel inclined to vote and support this issue in and of itself, either for the municipal policc departments or a separate issue related to the paid fue dcpiuiments, then thcy should decide that, If it is attached to this b~ l l in the other chanlhcr, then we need to deal with that as we have in the past here

The other h i g I would mention dative to some comments about whether local municipalities should do this on their own in terms of their own ~ndchtedncss, the primary intercst that we have in doing this is to relieve the debt ofthe local communities, relieve the local municipality li-om some of this overburdensomeness, and regardless ofwhether they have the authority or not, the question remains, they would not be ahle to homow at the 2-percent rate that the State would hc able to do fur them, so the cost associated with that kind of a bond issue at the local level would not even he close in comparison in terms of thc dcbt associated with the local municipality.

With Illat, Mr. Spcaker, I \\odd ask for an affirmalive vote for all those rcasolls plus all thc other reasons that we have talked about p~eviously, and I thank the members for their indulgence and paticnce 'Thank you, MI-. Speaker.

On the question recurring, Shall the h ~ l l pass ti~lallv '?

Ihc S1'liAKI:II. Agreeahlc lo the provisions of the Constitution, the yeas and nays \v111 now he taken

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Allen Argall Baker Bard Banisto Bebko-Jones Belardi Eelfanti Bishop Blaum Boacola Browne Bunt Bulkovitr Bunon Caltagironc Cappabianca Cam Cawley Chadwick Cohen, L. I. Cohen, M. Calafella Colaiuo Cornell Capora Corrigan COY C U T Daley DeLuca Dent Dermody DeWeese DiG~rolamo

Adolph Armstrong Barley Birmelin Boy- Brown Carone Civera Clark Clymer Conti Dempsey D ~ f e Durham Egolf Fargo

Donatucci Fairchild Fajt Fichter Gamble Geisl George Giglioni Godshall Ciordncr GNitra ~ P P O Habay Haluska Hanna Harhart Hasay llomessey Hess likin lames Jarolin Iosephr Kaiser tieller tienney King Kirkland Kukovich IaCrotla laughlin I.cderer Lcs~~uvitr Levdansky I.loyd

Farmer Feese Fleagle Flick G m o n Gladeck Hcrn~an Hcnhey Horsey Hutchinson Jadlowiec Krebs Lawless I.ch L y f h Maitland

LEGISLATIVE JOURNAL - HOUSE APRIL 18 YEAS-138 I RULES COMMITTEE MEETING

Lucyk Rudy Major Sainato Manderino Santoni Markosek Salher Marsico Schroder

T h e SPEAKER. 'The Chair recognizes the majority leader, w h o asks for an immediate meeting of the Rules Committee at the majority

leader 's desk. J

Mayernik Schuler McCall Scrimenti I BILL REPORTED FROM COMMITTEE.

Michlwic Mihalich Mundy Nailor Nyce O'Brien Olasz Oliver Penel Pesci Pctrarca Petrme Phillips Piccola Pistella Preston Ramos Readshaw Reber Richardson Rieger Roberts Robinson Roebuck Rooney

Masland McGill M e v Micouie \tiller Nick01 Pcnil Pins Platis Raymond R<,hre~ Ruhley Saylor Scmmel Serafini Sheehan

NOT VO'l'INCi-I

Taylor, I.

Stairs Steelman Stem Stetler Stish Sturla Surra Tangreni Thomas ligue Travaglio 'Trello Trich Van Home Veon Vitali Walko Washington Williams Wasan

- -

Wnght, D R Wnght. M N Yewcic Youngblood

Smith. B. Smilh, S H. Snyder, I). W. Steil Striftlnatter

Ryan, Speaker

HB 1010, PN 1545 (Amended) By Rep M I C O % L E

An Act amwding the act ofJune 5 . 1968 (P.1.. 140, No.78), cntitled "An act regulating the writing. cancellation of or refusal to renew policies of automobile insurance: and imposing powers and duticu on the Insurance j Commissioner therefor." furiher providing for cancellation or rcfusal to write or renew automohilc Insurance.

RESOLUTION REPORTED - FROM COMMITTEE

>

- HR 39, PN 1547 (Amended) Ry Kep. I7EK%EI,

* A Resolution directing the Urban M G r s Commincc. in coopcralion with

thcVcteransMs,rs and Emergency P~eparedness Comrnltlcc. to conduct a stud" an thc feasibility ofustt,p airship tcchnologv lo assist police agcncics to combat crime

VOTE CORRECTION

'The SPEAKER For what purpose docs the gentleman,

Mr. I.loyd, r i se?

Mr. L.L.OYL). C o l ~ e c t i o n of the record, Mr . Speaker. * T h e SPEAKER The gentleman may proceed.

'* Mr. LL.OYD. M-. S p e k c r , on the Gordner motion to reconsid~.r

the M a y e m k amendment, I had inadvertently been voting "no " I was in the process of shifting from "no" to "yes." I w a s locked out. My 0

intention w a s t o vote for thc motton. Thank you, Mr. Spcakcr .

T h e SPEAKER. The remarks of the gentleman will h e spread

upon the record

BILLS REMOVED FROM TABLE

T h e SI'I:N<I:K. 'The Chair r c c o g n i ~ e s the majority leader.

Mr. 1'k:KLt:I. Mr Speaker, I move that the following bills h e w removed from the table.

Cowell Evans Re~nard

'The majority rcquircd hy the Constitution having voted in the

af f i rmat~ve , the question w a s de temi ined in the atlirmativc and the hill passed finally.

Ordered , That the clcrk present the s a m e to the Senate for

concurrence.

t iU 269, lU3 917 tlli 272, and

1 I t 490

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1995 LEGISLATIVE JOURNAL - HOUSE 887

On the question, Will the 1 iou3e s p e c lo the motion? Motion u a s agreed to

BILLS RECOMMITTED

THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE (PATRICIA H. VANCE) PRESIDING

BILLS PASSED OVER

The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without objection, all remaining 'The S1'F:AKER The Chair rccogni~es the msjo~-ity leader. bills on today's calendar wtll be pas.ed over. The Chair hears no Mr. PtiW.EL Mr. Speaker, I move that the followin8 bills be nhiec,ion

recommitted to the Co~nm~ttcc on Appmpr-iations: 1 --'-

15 1085, I 5 1086. IC3 71, Hi3 269, I B 917. 193 272, and kB 490

On the question, Will the I louse agree to the motion'? Motion was agreed to.

HOUSE BILL INTRODUCED AND REFERRED

No. 1380 Ry lieprescntativcs ITKIN, DeJ,UCA, FAW.I I , IIEKMODY, (ilGl.lOT'I'1, W;ADSt LAW, PC'I'TIT, MICIILOVIC, MAKKOSEK, ROBINSON, HABAY, OI.ASI, LEVDANSKY, PKFRONE, I S L A , FAJT, K A I S : , LAlJGEU.IN, MAYl5KNIK. GAMl31,f<, WALKO, VAN HOKNE, 1'RES'l'DN, TKELI.0, COWT<I.L., 0I.IVF.K. WOLNIAK, GEORGE, FICIITER, T I E l F %. 'TAYI,OR, MICOZLIE, KOOhFZY, SATHb;R, JOSEI'IIS, CAl.'~A(;IKONE, K1JKOVICI1, MANI)FXINO, KTJIIY, RTJ'IKOVI'l'Z, KI:NNtY, STARACK, TANGWTI'I, 'TKICI I , 13k:L.FANTI, Mll lN.ICI I, J A W S , B0SCOI.A; CIVERA, COTIKIC;AN, MIINDY, l.L~lll~REl<, KOBliK'TS, CO1.N:lil.l.A. MIII.IO and ~111.I.I

An Act amcliding the act of Junc 3. 1937 (I'LI 333, Nu.320), known as the Pennsylvania f<lcctiun Codc. filrthcr prouidrng for the cornperisation oidcctian ofliccrs, and further pm\~ding fbr pcace olticcrs at polling placcs.

RECESS I 'The SI'EAKliR hrt. U~crc ~ I I ) further corrccliuns 7 Are there any

furthrr corrections in thc regular scss~on ' Arc there any announccmcnts in rcguliir scsslon'? Arc thew any

filrther reports of c o i ~ u i ~ ~ t t ~ c In rcgula~ S ~ S S ~ C I I I ' ?

ilearing none, the regular sesslon I S recessed to the call oflhc Chair.

AFTER RECESS

The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair recognizes the gentleman, Mr. Guy i'ravaglio, from Butler CounQ.

Mr. TRAVAGL.10. Madam Speaker, 1 move that this House do now adjourn until Wcdnesday, April 19, 1995, at l l a.m., e.d.t., unless sooner recalled by the Speaker.

On the question, Will the House agree to the motion? Motion was agreed to, and at 5:33 p.m., e d t , the House

adjourned.