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IEEE 802.11 TGmc January 2014 AgendaDate: 2014-01-23

Name Company Address Phone email Dorothy Stanley Aruba Networks 1322 Crossman Ave

Sunnyvale, CA 630-363-1389 dstanley@arubanetworks.

com

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Abstract

This presentation contains the IEEE 802.11 TGmc agenda for the January 2014 session.

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TGmc Agenda

Attendance reminder: https://murphy.events.ieee.org/imat/Documents: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/documents

• Monday PM1– Chair’s Welcome, Status, Review of

Objectives, Approve agenda, minutes– Editor’s Report – Timeline and Schedule– Comment resolution- Dan Harkins 41r0,Adrian:703r3 and 1314r13

• Wednesday PM1 – CIDs 2423, 2424 – ERP PHY– CIDs 2411, 2412 – DSSS deprecation

• Thursday PM2 – Motions– Liaison 14-182r1, 14-29, 12-1345r1– Plans for March, AOB– Adjourn

• Thursday PM1 – Comment Resolution CID 2434 (11-

13-115-07), Location 14-32r0, 875r7, CID 2031, GEN

• Tuesday PM2– Motions – telecons– 1455r0 –CID 2263, Adrian: 875r7,

MAC comments, GEN comments

• Wednesday PM2– Comment Resolution – 1509r0 + 160r2 Location

• Tuesday PM1– CID 2199, 2466 (30r0, 49r0) Carlos C.– CIDs 2486, 2487,2474 (1399r07)– CIDs 2065, 2169, 2054, 2187, 2170– Adrian: 14/57r2

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TGmc – Wednesday PM1

CIDs 2423, 2424 – ERP PHYCIDs 2411, 2412 – DSSS deprecation

2411 1949.01 16 As noted in CID 32,"11b is Poison". Clause

16 devices have the capability of bringing 2.4GHz networks to their knees. 13/0416 (latest is r5 at time of writing comment) shows that there is no technical reason to maintain Clause 16 devices. It is suggested that a note be added to this Clause to indicate that it is now 'out of favor' and that it is likely to be dropped in the (near) future.

Add text under heading "Devices supporting the DSSS system are no longer encouraged and likely to be deprecated from this Specification in subsequent revisions"

2412 1974.01 17 As noted in CID 32,"11b is Poison". Clause

17 devices are coupled to Clause 16 DSSS and as such have the capability of bringing 2.4GHz networks to their knees. 13/0416 (latest is r5 at time of writing comment) shows that there is no technical reason to maintain Clause 16 or 17 devices. It is suggested that a note be added to this Clause to indicate that it is now 'out of favor' and that it is likely to be dropped in the (near) future.

Add text under heading "Devices supporting the high rate extention to the DSSS system are no longer encouraged and likely to be deprecated from this Specification in subsequent revisions"

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TGmc – Wednesday PM1

CIDs 2423, 2424 – ERP PHYCIDs 2411, 2412 – DSSS deprecation

2423 2048.25

9.1.2 The standard requires 11n and 11g (i.e., HT and ERP) PHYs to support transmit and receive of all 11b modes. Given the enormous disparity in efficiency between 11b and the OFDM modes, this no longer makes sense as a universal requirement for all products, and any such requirements should be removed, if not necessary to support coexistence. A straightforward way of accomplishing at least some of this is to remove the requirement that ERP PHYs support the 5.5 and 11 Mbps CCK data rates. Since Clause 20 (HT) references Clause 19 (ERP), this would remove 5.5 and 11 Mbps as requirements for HT also. This would not affect the requirment to be able to detect the long or short preamble (1 Mbps and 2 Mbps) and to take appropriate action based on such a detection, thus preserving the current level of coexistence.

Delete 5.5 and 11 from list of mandatory data rates for ERP PHY. Also make corresponding changes throughout, including section 9.1.3 (P2048 LL30-37) (add 5.5 and 11 to list of exceptions); section 19.3.5 (P2054 LL39-40) (delete 5.5 and 11 from list); and Annex B.4.9 (P2307 LL33-37) (remove 5.5 and 11; add new entry ERP1a for 5.5 and 11, optional)

2424 2048.37

9.1.3 The standard requires 11n and 11g (i.e., HT and ERP) PHYs to support transmit and receive of the 11b Short Preamble. This is optional for 11b. This requirement no longer makes sense (if it ever did), as there are legacy deployed devices that do not recognize the short preamble or defer for it, and it seems that most deployed devices do not transmit the short preamble.

Remove the sentence beginning "In addition, it is mandatory ...". Also make corresponding changes throughout, including section 19.3.2.1 (P2052 LL32-41) (change "three" to "two" and delete short preamble from list; add extra line saying that an ERP STA may support the short preamble); section 19.3.2.3 (P2053 L16) (delete sentence begiining "For the ERP..."); section 19.3.5 (P2054 L40) (delete "or short"), and (P2054 L46) (delete "short preamble").

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Timeline Info

• 11mc NOT going out to ballot in January– Suggest discussion, review of proposed text & straw polls this

week

• 11mc ballot in March or May

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Deprecation CID documents

• Graham:– https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-1533-01-000m-clause-16-an

d-17-deprecation.docx

– https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-0416-05-000m-cid-32-11b-is-poison.pptx

• Brian/Andrew: – https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/14/11-14-0099-00-000m-renewing-2-4

ghz-band.pptx

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Deprecation Straw poll

• I prefer (can select all)1. No change to existing text at present, Liaison to WFA now (30) 2. Option B in 11-13-1533r1 (Graham) – deprecate 16&17, optional

rates in 19 + Liaise (14)3. Option C in 11-13-1533r1 (Graham) – deprecate 16&17, tx

optional difference + liaise (15)4. Option (D) in 11-14-0099 (Brian/Andrew) – optional + liaise (21)5. No change to existing text (22)6. Abstain (9)

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Deprecation Straw poll - 1

• I prefer to defer a motion on the 4 “deprecation CIDs” until WFA feedback received.1. Yes (19)2. No (21)3. Abstain (19)

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Work items

• Liaison letter to WFA – Brian Hart, Andrew Myles• Usage related text, rather than excision – Menzo, Carlos C• “Should not” behavior text – Sean

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TGmc – Monday PM1

• Call Meeting to Order • Policies and Procedures, Attendance reminder

• **IEEE Patent Policy http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt• Are there any patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that the participant believes may be essential for the use of that standard? Minute any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom.

** Read slide deck*** Note especially items #7 & #11

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• Please review the documents at the following links:-  IEEE Patent Policy - http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt-  Patent FAQ - http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/faq.pdf-  LoA Form - http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/loa.pdf-  Affiliation FAQ -http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html-  Anti-Trust FAQ - http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf-  Ethics - http://www.ieee.org/portal/cms_docs/about/CoE_poster.pdf-  IEEE 802.11 Working Group P&P -     https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/public-file/07/11-07-0360-04-0000-802-11-policies-and-procedures.doc

• 802 WG P&P: https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/09/ec-09-0007-02-00EC-draft-lmsc-wg-p-p.pdf

• New 802 LMSC P&P:https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/09/ec-09-0005-02-00EC-draft-revised-lmsc-p-p-for-wg-p-p-ballot.pdf

• New 802 LMSC OM: https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/09/ec-09-0006-02-00EC-draft-revision-of-the-lmsc-om-for-wg-p-p.pdf

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Logistics

• Attendance recording procedures– See 11-09/0246r0– https://imat.ieee.org – Must register before logging attendance– Must log attendance during each 2 hour session

• Documentation– http://mentor.ieee.org– Use “TGm” for documents relating to the Revision PAR

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Monday PM1 (continued)

• Objectives– Comment resolution

• Approve prior meeting minutes– https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-1357-00-000m-revmc

-minutes-for-nov-2013-dallas.doc

• Editor’s Report (Adrian Stephens)– https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-0095-07-000m-editor

-reports.ppt

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TGmc Plan of Record• 20 July 2012 – 12 Sept 2012 – Call for Comment/Input• 29-30 Aug 2012 – NesCom, SASB PAR Approval• Sept 2012 – Begin to process input • Sept 2012 – 11aa, 11ae integration• Jan – First WG Letter ballot - without 11ad• Dec 2012 – March/May 2013 – 11ad integration • Sept 2013 – Letter ballot on D2.0• Dec 2013 – March 2014 – 11ac integration

– Letter Ballot on D3.0 (includes 11ac) March 2014• Mar 2014 – April 2014 – 11af integration

– Letter Ballot on D4.0 (includes 11af) July 2014• July 2014 – Mandatory Draft Review• Jul - Aug 2014 – Form Sponsor Pool (45 days) • Nov 14 – Initial Sponsor Ballot • July 2015– WG/EC Final Approval• Sept 2015 – RevCom/SASB Approval

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Motion 44 – Telecons• Approve resolutions to comments in

• https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-0361-21-000m-revmc-mac-comments.xls Tab “Motion MAC-R” and

• https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-1160-03-000m-lb199-gen-adhoc-comments.xls Tabs “Gen Motion Dallas C” and “Gen Motion Telecon 1”

• Incorporate the changes indicated in https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/14/11-14-0006-00-000m-fixes-to-dmg-operation.docx

• Moved: Jon Rosdahl• Seconded: Mike Montemurro• Result: 7-0-1 Passes

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Motion 45 - Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday Presentations & Comments

• Approve resolutions to comments in• https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-0361-24-000m-revmc-mac-com

ments.xls Tabs “Motion MAC-S” and “Motion MAC-T”

• https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-1160-04-000m-lb199-gen-adhoc-comments.xls Tab “Gen Motion LA 1 ”

• Incorporate the text changes indicated in • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-0703-03-000m-mib-addition-in-

support-of-3gpp-manageability.doc

• Moved: Mike Montemurro• Seconded: Mark Hamilton• Result: 11-0-1

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Motion 46 - Telecon minutes– Approve the teleconference minutes in

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-1499-05-000m-tgmc-telecon-minutes-dec-13-jan-14.docx

• Moved: Jon Rosdahl• Seconded: Stephen McCann• Result: Unanimous consent

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Motion 47 – Liaison • Approve the liaison to Wi-Fi Alliance in– https://

mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/14/11-14-0182-02-000m-liaison-to-wfa-on-reducing-use-of-cck-and-dsss.docx

• Moved: Andrew Myles• Seconded: Sean Coffey• Result: 13-0-0

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Motion –• Incorporate the text changes indicated in

• https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-1199-08-000m-txop-limit-rules-text.docx

•Moved: •Seconded: •Result:

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Jan - Mar Meeting Planning

• Objectives– Comment resolution

• Conference Calls 10am Eastern 2 hour– Feb 7, 14, 21, 28

• Ad-Hoc meeting – none • Schedule review• Availability of 11mc in the IEEE store

– D2.0 is available; D3.0 after successful ballot

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References• https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/12/11-12-0594-02-0000-revision-

par-proposal-for-802-11-2012.doc• https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/09/11-09-0002-12-0000-802-11-

operations-manual.doc • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/12/11-12-1082-17-0000-revmc-pre-

ballot-comments.xls • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-0233-23-000m-revmc-wg-

ballot-comments.xls