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An interview withDAN DIETZ01
PROJECT JOURNEY• WORKSHOP & READING AT THE PLAYWRIGHTS’ CENTER,
FEBRUARY 2011
• WORKSHOP & READING AT PLAYWRIGHTS FOUNDATION’S BAY AREA PLAYWRIGHTS FESTIVAL, JULY 2011
• WORKSHOP & READING AT THE PLAYWRIGHTS’ CENTER’S RUTH EASTON NEW PLAY SERIES, DECEMBER 2011
Khaled has traveled from Iraq to Minnesota to find his best friend, Jeff. Problem is, an IED attack has left Jeff in a coma—and Jeff’s father blames Khaled and everyone who looks like him. The two men wait it out together, and in the long silence an unexpected common language emerges, unleashing centuries of rage and resentment … and music. A heavy metal clash between Midwest and Middle East.
DECEMBER 5, 2011 • 7 PM • AT THE PLAYWRIGHTS’ CENTER • FREERESERVE SEATS: [email protected] • (612) 332-7481 x10The Playwrights’ Center is wheelchair-accessible.
HOME BELOW ZEROBY DAN DIETZ
THE 2011-12 RUTH EASTONNEW PLAY SERIESpresents free readings of new work by today’s most exciting playwrights. For more information visit www.pwcenter.org.
JEREMY B. COHENFROM PRODUCING ARTISTIC DIRECTOR
It is with a proud heart that I launch this year’s Ruth Easton New Play Series, as part of our 40th Anniversary Season, with this emotionally gripping and soaring new work by our Core Writer, Dan Dietz.
Dan first wrote and developed a draft of Home Below Zero during his Jerome Fellowship at the Center last year, and from the moment his reading began, everyone in the theater leaned forward in that singular experience of watching the birth of a truly inspired new theatrical work. It is with no small thrill that I have watched the play take shape over the last several months, and with great excitement that we now have the opportunity to share it with the public. Like much of Dan’s recent work, this play embraces a musical genre as the fulcrum on which he balances epic emotional journeys … writ with great intimacy. This particular piece—which centers on a young Iraqi man and the American soldier who bonds with him over heavy metal while in Baghdad occupying the country as a member of the armed forces—ingeniously utilizes the speed and power of sound to speak volumes and ignite physical connection that the two would never otherwise share. Dan has crystallized the conflict in Iraq anew within the lives and decisions of these exquisitely drawn and deeply complex relationships. His treatment of the war is etched by laying bare its emotional core, allowing his storytelling to dwell not in division, but in embrace. Please join us as we celebrate this stunning new play by Dan Dietz—and catch this important new work before it surely makes its way onto stages across the country.
KHALED.You never asked me why I no longer had a band to play with when I met Jeff. You never asked about my sister and her condition. Or my mother. You. Are not the only one. Paying.
(He plugs his guitar into his little amp and turns it on.)
I would be like you. My hands, my fists. If I didn’t have this to put inside them.
—Home Below Zero
DAN DIETZAn interview with
WHAT, IN YOUR WORDS, IS HOME BELOW ZERO ABOUT?
I think it’s about a few different things. It’s a play that wrestles with America’s
attempts to walk away from our excursions in Iraq as rapidly as possible. It’s
also a play about where we are now as a country economically. I think a big
reason why we’re desperate to walk away from the Middle East is because we’re
broke—in all definitions of the word. People are just trying to get by, just trying
to build a stable environment for themselves and their children. So I think it’s not
so much our inherent irresponsibility as a nation, although that’s certainly a topic
worth discussion; it’s the fact that, economically and idealistically, people are just
really struggling right now. And that’s a crucial factor in understanding where our
relationship with Iraq is at this particular moment in time. We’re a far cry from the
nation that tore down the statue of Saddam eight years ago.
It’s also about how music can bond people in unexpected ways and serve as a
common language and a conduit for emotion—as a bridge and, perhaps, as a
hammer that can smash a bridge.
WHEN DID THE CONCEPT FOR THE PLAY FORM?
In 2010, I was listening to an interview on Fresh Air. Terry Gross was talking to
these heavy metal musicians who had recently made it out of Iraq and found
their way to the United States. They were one of Iraq’s only heavy metal bands, a
band called Acrassicauda, which is apparently Latin for “black scorpion.” As they
were telling their story I was really blown away, so I watched this documentary
about them, Heavy Metal in Baghdad.
Growing up, my older brother was a total metalhead—he loved Iron Maiden, he
loved Megadeth, he loved Metallica, he had the long hair and everything. So
naturally I associated heavy metal with suburban teen angst. The lyrics were
about all of these things that are coming to get you, this irresistible fascism that’s
going to come down on you if you don’t resist it and fight back, and it seemed
like that roughly translated to “Your mom and dad are going to tell you you can’t
stay out late,” you know? “Screw them, do what you want.” Or at least that’s what
it seemed to translate to in our family and in our world.
But what blew me away was that for these musicians from Iraq, those lyrics and
the driving energy of that music spoke directly to the reality of their lives. They
were having to deal with real oppression and real war and real things to resist
and fight back against, or die trying.
I had never looked at heavy metal that way before. I had always seen it
through an ironic lens—as a packaged rebellion that you could buy or not. I had
never seen it so honestly and purely before. And it struck a chord in me. I knew
that would be my way in to writing about the Iraq War—which was something I
had been wanting to do, but didn’t really know how.
DID YOU LISTEN TO A LOT OF METAL TO GET READY TO WRITE THE PLAY?
I did! I listened to a lot of metal and I just did a lot of remembering about
driving around with my older brother in his car and him blasting Metallica and
Queensrÿche and Judas Priest and all these other bands out the window.
DO YOU HAVE A FAVORITE?
There’s something about Metallica that is just so awesome and pure. To me,
they’re the epitome of 80s thrash metal. I mean, there are other bands who came
along who were faster and thrashed harder, I suppose, and there are certainly
other bands who are more lyrical, but there’s something about Metallica that just
feels like the source to me. That early- to mid-80s Metallica has a purity of sound
that, to me, encapsulates what that era of heavy metal was all about.
What’s really wild is that ever since the 90s when bands like Nirvana went
mainstream, and with the softening of Metallica, even, with their Black Album in
the 90s, what used to be considered dangerous music—I mean, parents were
told to be concerned if their kids were listening to this stuff back in the 80s—has
become completely mainstream. I think the biggest shocker when you go back
to listen to it is how mainstream it sounds, given how extreme it used to sound
back in the 80s.
WHAT RESEARCH WENT INTO THE PLAY?
I did a lot of research into the war. I tried to get a look at the war from a lot of
different perspectives, from policy perspectives—that 10,000-foot view of the
whole situation, policy decisions, strategic decisions—all the way down. I read
and watched a lot of interviews with soldiers on the ground who talked pretty
frankly about their experiences during the war, as well as interviews with soldiers
who had come home from the war—especially soldiers who had come home
with injuries, and particularly traumatic brain injuries, which has become the
signature injury of our Middle Eastern wars now.
I also did a lot of research into what the war was like from the Iraqi perspective.
There’s this beautiful book called Night Draws Near—it’s written by this journalist
who interviewed tons of Iraqis about their experiences leading up to the war,
during the war, and after the war. It’s beautiful and heartbreaking how Iraq (and
Baghdad in particular) has been forever changed by the American invasion. I
even broke it down into what it was like for Sunnis, what it was like for Shias, what
it was like for the Kurds. I did my best to get as full and detailed a perspective
on the situation as possible, so that when the time came I would have solid
material to draw on.
“FOR THESE MUSICIANS FROM IRAQ,
THOSE LYRICS AND THE DRIVING
ENERGY OF THAT MUSIC SPOKE
DIRECTLY TO THE REALITY OF THEIR
LIVES. THEY WERE HAVING TO DEAL
WITH REAL OPPRESSION AND REAL
WAR AND REAL THINGS TO RESIST
AND FIGHT BACK AGAINST, OR DIE
TRYING. I HAD NEVER LOOKED AT
HEAVY METAL THAT WAY BEFORE.”
WHAT DEVELOPMENT HAS THE PLAY SEEN SO FAR?
I’ve been really, truly blessed by the workshops I’ve had of Home Below Zero.
First, the reading I had this February at the Playwrights’ Center—for me, one of
the true gifts of that reading was the actor who was brought in to play the role
of Khaled. His mother actually worked on security in the Green Zone during the
early years of the war, and he was a wealth of experience and knowledge for me.
He was able to round out my perspective on the war in a way that nothing else
could because he could speak directly to what it was like on both sides. It was
such a gift to have him.
Then this July, I was treated to another amazing workshop experience at the
Bay Area Playwrights Festival. I had a Persian dramaturg, and our actor who
played Khaled was also Persian—which is not Iraqi, but still, he was able to offer
truly insightful perspectives on the character and on the culture in a way that I
just couldn’t have found otherwise. The other brilliant and amazing thing about
the workshop at Bay Area was the fact that we had a live heavy metal drummer
for the reading. He was able to bring the music-driven sections to life in a way
that I hadn’t really seen before, and help me understand what those scenes
and moments want to be. The kind of energy that driving metal beat can give
to a scene is just invaluable. It really helped the play suddenly become three-
dimensional in a way that I hadn’t quite experienced yet.
WHAT DO YOU PLAN TO FOCUS ON IN YOUR RUTH EASTON NEW PLAY
SERIES WORKSHOP?
At this point, what I want to do is track the overall arcs of the characters, where
they start and where they wind up. I especially want to make sure as things draw
to a close in the final few scenes that the characters are behaving in a way that
feels strong and consistent but also leaves room for surprise. I want to make sure
the play maintains a strong build and drive all the way through to the end and
doesn’t peter out, and that the final moments of the play leave the audience with
interesting questions to wrestle with as they walk out of the theater.
WHY DID YOU BECOME A PLAYWRIGHT?
It still surprises me that I did, because with one or two exceptions, I didn’t grow
up seeing plays. I did not have a theater family, and I only wound up getting into
theater because my senior year in high school a bunch of my friends were trying
out for the school play, and I just decided that if I didn’t try out too, I wouldn’t see
my friends. So I wound up getting into the play with them. It’s so funny how close
that came to not happening.
It was kind of a huge epiphany for me when I realized that this method of
storytelling made incredible sense to me, that there was something about getting
a story up in three dimensions, live, in front of an audience, that just clicked for
me. The immediacy of live performance really spoke to me, energized me, and I
knew it was what I wanted to pursue.
YOUR PLAY CLEMENTINE IN THE LOWER 9 RECENTLY PREMIERED AT
THEATREWORKS IN PALO ALTO. TELL ME A LITTLE ABOUT THAT PLAY.
It’s what I like to call a blues riff on Aeschylus’ Greek tragedy Agamemnon.
It’s the story of a family that’s trying to rebuild their home and their lives in the
wake of Hurricane Katrina, and it has live blues music in it, and to me, it asks the
question, how do you go on in the face of challenges so big that you would have
every right to just lay down and give up?
Like a lot of people, I was deeply struck by the tragedy of Katrina, not only the
disaster itself but the aftermath. And struck by the sheer force of will that the
people of New Orleans exhibited in rebuilding their city in the wake of that kind
of disaster, and, frankly, in the wake of what a lot of them experienced as deep
betrayal—betrayal by their government, both local and federal, and to a certain
extent betrayal by the national community. So I wanted to strike those notes a
little bit and wrestle with those kinds of issues.
I don’t mean to imply that it’s a political play. At the end of the day, like a lot of
Greek stories, it all boils down to the actions of a single family, and the betrayals
and hopes and dreams that are embodied in a single family, and how that family
can hopefully represent something larger.
WHAT DO YOU LIKE OR DISLIKE IN A PLAY?
I think what I like is urgency and honesty and a bold sense of risk. The play can
be risky in a formal sense, in a structural sense, which can be exciting, or the
play can be risky in terms of the issues it’s dealing with or the raw honesty with
which it presents those issues. A play can be risky in the bold humanity that it
The Playwrights’ Center is a fiscal year 2011 recipient of an Institutional Support grant from the Minnesota State Arts Board. This activity is funded, in part, by the arts and cultural heritage fund as appropriated by the Minnesota State Legislature with money from the Legacy Amendment vote of the people of Minnesota on November 4, 2008.
has to offer. As long as a play is stepping out onto a high wire, and is willing to
walk that high wire in order to get the audience to experience something that
will hopefully get them to ask new and urgent questions about their lives, that’s
what I find exciting about plays.
I think what I dislike are plays that are safe for everyone involved. Plays that don’t
ask the audience to leave their comfort zone, plays where the creators of the
experience clearly aren’t wrestling with anything—plays where nobody is taking
a chance. I feel like art is all about going somewhere you haven’t gone, about
doing something you’re afraid you can’t do. And if you’re not willing to do that,
perhaps you should put your pen down and not write that play. And pick your
pen up when you’ve got something to be scared about.
“I FEEL LIKE ART IS ALL ABOUT
GOING SOMEWHERE YOU HAVEN’T
GONE, ABOUT DOING SOMETHING
YOU’RE AFRAID YOU CAN’T DO. AND
IF YOU’RE NOT WILLING TO DO THAT,
PERHAPS YOU SHOULD PUT YOUR
PEN DOWN AND NOT WRITE THAT
PLAY. AND PICK YOUR PEN UP WHEN
YOU’VE GOT SOMETHING TO BE
SCARED ABOUT.”
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