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Page 1 2 3 4 BIODIESEL & SVO DISCUSSION FORUMS Sponsors Biodiesel and SVO Forums Home Forums Biodiesel Connections Ireland Biodiesel CP. Waste Plastic to kerosene. Moderators: Shaun, The Trouts Go New Find Notify Tools Reply CP. Waste Plastic to kerosene. 0 Like Login/Join imakebiodiesel Member posted June 14, 2013 04:59 AM At long last, nearly a year late, I can finally announce that my CP processor is up and running. CP stands for Catalytic Pyrolysis and is the process that converts waste plastic into synthetic kerosene. My son Ruairi and I have been developing a catalyst that makes this a viable proposition for small scale producers. I am processing a batch every week and anyone who is interested in this new technology is most welcome to come along. Prices for processors and catalyst will be announced soon but I am also planning to make plans available for those who wish to build their own processors,( basic plumbing and welding skills required.) I will post some pictures and we will soon up load a video of the process on Utube and in the meantime I will be happy to answer any questions here. Location: Lismore Ireland | Registered: November 25, 2007 LiamDa Member posted June 14, 2013 05:30 AM Hide Post Hello John, I all in on this one, one question is it only kero? Location: Armagh N.Ireland | Registered: July 17, 2011 imakebiodiesel Member posted June 14, 2013 05:33 AM Here is a picture of the finished kerosene fuel. This can be used in any central heating burner without adjustment. I hav Gas Process Design High Performance Exchangers. Designed & Manufactured By Heatric
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posted June 14, 2013 04:59 AM
At long last, nearly a year late, I can finally announce that my CP processor is up andrunning.
CP stands for Catalytic Pyrolysis and is the process that converts waste plastic intosynthetic kerosene. My son Ruairi and I have been developing a catalyst that makes this aviable proposition for small scale producers. I am processing a batch every week andanyone who is interested in this new technology is most welcome to come along.
Prices for processors and catalyst will be announced soon but I am also planning to makeplans available for those who wish to build their own processors,( basic plumbing andwelding skills required.)
I will post some pictures and we will soon up load a video of the process on Utube and inthe meantime I will be happy to answer any questions here.
Location: Lismore Ireland | Registered: November 25, 2007
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posted June 14, 2013 05:30 AM Hide Post
Hello John,I all in on this one, one question is it only kero?
Location: Armagh N.Ireland | Registered: July 17, 2011
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posted June 14, 2013 05:33 AM
Here is a picture of the finished kerosene fuel. This can be used in any central heating burner without adjustment. I have also used it in a hurricane lamp, a tilley lamp, a paraffin stove, a Refleks oilstove and a Kerosun radiant 36 room heater. (it burned well but was a bit smelly in the room heater)
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posted June 14, 2013 05:40 AM
Here is the processor. As you can see it has a kerosene burner in the bottom to provide heat so it runs on its own fuel. The black pipe arrangement on the right is the condenser, fuel is collected from the bottom of the condenser.
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posted June 14, 2013 05:48 AM Hide Post
Hello Liam, that was fast!The output is 75% kerosene and 25% naphtha. At present I have only one condenser soall the fuel comes out mixed and has to be separated. I plan to introduce a secondcondenser so that the kerosene and naphtha can be drained off separately.Naphtha is the fuel content of petrol. However petrol contains a number of additives toenhance its octane rating, provide lubrication and detergent qualities. I ran a chainsawand a strimmer on it with 2stroke oil added and ran an old Toyota on it briefly with a 5%biodiesel added for lubrication. More work needs to be done to investigate what is neededto upgrade naphtha to regular petrol.
Location: Lismore Ireland | Registered: November 25, 2007
TriggerMember
posted June 14, 2013 07:19 AM Hide Post
congratulationsShame I've gas heating,I've certainly no shortage of plastic oil drums.How much are you producing a litre for ?Any waste product?Great job,looks well,must get down to see it in action.Also like the idea of it running on its own fuel,(no electricity costs) and being able to use theNaphtha with the 2 stroke machines,could be handy gardiners.
p.s Naphtha itself seems to hold a high price and used for lighter fluid, camping stovefuel,thinners and solvent to name but a few
Location: County down, Northern Ireland | Registered: August 10, 2008
fuelfarmerMember
posted June 14, 2013 08:37 AM Hide Post
I am very interested. We have a lot of plastic that could be used as feed stock.
Location: Virginia | Registered: March 17, 2007
Ryan P.member
posted June 14, 2013 09:30 AM Hide Post
Yeah, who doesn't! I throw away barrel after garbage barrel full of 4.5gal cubies from myoil pick ups.
I'd be curious to know how well this kerosene does at winterizing biodiesel. The concept ofcreating my wintering fuel from my waste cubies is very appealing!
Location: Southern WI, USA | Registered: May 18, 2006
WombleMember
posted June 14, 2013 02:45 PM Hide Post
Does the fuel have to be separated or can it be used in standard heating burner as is orblended with some bio to achieve the right flow consistency or would the burncharacteristics of the naphtha throw it out of whack?
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john galtMember
posted June 14, 2013 03:14 PM Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Ryan P.:I'd be curious to know how well this kerosene does at winterizing biodiesel.
Once the HMPEs are cold filtered out, then the ~25% naphtha/~75% kerosene is excellentfor blending into a cold temperature biodiesel mix. That's essentially the composition of thestale jetB I use for blending with biodiesel year round.
Location: coldest N.America | Registered: May 03, 2005
imakebiodieselMember
posted June 14, 2013 03:40 PM Hide Post
ill try to answer questions in order,
The cost per litre is very low, certainly less than the cost of Methanol and KOH used inmaking biodiesel. I have not finalized the price of the catalyst yet as I have to get bulkprices for the ingredients but my aim is to supply catalyst at a cost that a small producercould make the fuel at a total cost incl electricity etc for less than 20 cents per litre. Alarger producer buying in bulk might be able to halve that price.There is 5% waste product. It is a mixture of wax and carbon black. It has exactly theconstituents of black boot polish. You can shine your boots with it but otherwise mixedwith sawdust and spent catalyst it makes a very good fire log. Light it with a match and itburns cleanly in a stove or open fire for about an hour.Naphtha, suitably packaged as stove fuel or brush cleaner has a very high value, but iimagine most people will want to use it as fuel.The kerosene this winter showed slight sign of crystal formation around 3 degrees C.However if more naphtha had been left in the mix it would have better cold weather
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qualities. I have mixed 30% of the unseparated mixture with biodiesel and run my car onit. That mixture has exactly the same specific gravity as regular diesel.The yeild of fuel is 1.1 litre per kg of waste plastic.
Location: Lismore Ireland | Registered: November 25, 2007
imakebiodieselMember
posted June 14, 2013 03:50 PM Hide Post
If you adjust the settings a kerosene burner can be set to run on the kerosene naphthamix. it will burn very cleanly but you should be aware of dangers of storing naphtha/kerosene. It is much more inflammable than plain kerosene.Yes the crude fuel produced is identical to jet fuel but I wouldnt reccommend filling upyour Gulfstream just yet.
Location: Lismore Ireland | Registered: November 25, 2007
WombleMember
posted June 14, 2013 04:22 PM Hide Post
its all very exciting John! what can and cant be used as feed stock and does differentplastics give different end results? Can you use bioplastics? Also how much does a runproduce?
Registered: September 27, 2010
DeanMoriartyMember
posted June 14, 2013 06:01 PM Hide Post
Very exciting John, can't wait to see it.
Location: Clare, Ireland | Registered: May 20, 2011
imakebiodieselMember
posted June 14, 2013 06:21 PM Hide Post
You can use all forms of PE polyethylene, PP polypropylene, and PS polystyrene.You cant use PVC, PET or any no 7 plastics.The first 3 are the most common and account for 85% of waste plastics.Im not sure about bioplastics, they are still uncommon so I havnt tried them yet. At present the processor holds 15 kg of plastic and yields 16.5 litres of fuel. However Iam developing a continuous feed that will increase the yield dramatically.
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Location: Lismore Ireland | Registered: November 25, 2007
WombleMember
posted June 14, 2013 06:29 PM Hide Post
ok thanks, how long dose a run take approximately?
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DNMember
posted June 14, 2013 10:28 PM Hide Post
Interesting.
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imakebiodieselMember
posted June 15, 2013 04:58 AM Hide Post
It takes an hour to clean out and reload fresh plastic. The kerosene burner and the smallelectric band heater on the reflux column are automatically controlled by PID tempcontrollers so you have nothing else to do but collect the fuel. The fuel is produced over 4to 5 hours.
I want to make it clear that I am not presenting this as a mature, fully developed system,there is a lot of room for improvement. My efforts so far have been concentrated onproducing a cheap disposable catalyst and in this I have been successful but the processcan be made much more efficient. I envisage major improvements can be made inseveral areas such as...A "hot" condenser for naphtha collection and a "cold" condenser for kerosene.Returning uncondensable gas back to the processor to provide some of the heat requiredfor processing.Improvements to the insulation and flue design to improve efficiency.Automatic safety features. automatic purging control.And Im sure there are many others.
If you are looking for a system that you can buy complete, have installed and then you
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just press a couple of buttons and fuel pours out this is not for you. I hope to partner witha small group of practical people (welding and plumbing skills essential) who will workwith me to develop this system into a viable medium scale business.
Location: Lismore Ireland | Registered: November 25, 2007
imakebiodieselMember
posted June 15, 2013 05:08 AM Hide Post
I realize that the insulation hides most of the working parts in the picture of the processor. so I have posted avery simple diagram of how it looks inside.The process is very simple. The retort is loaded with waste plastic, fresh catalyst is placed in the reflux column.The retort is heated first to melt the plastic at 200C and then to boil the liquid at 385C. The vapours pass throughthe catalyst and are cracked into short chain fuel molecules. These cracked vapours are cooled and collected inthe condenser.
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posted June 15, 2013 09:21 AM Hide Post
Congratulations John,I would love to it in operation. Michael cobh
Location: cobh cork Ireland | Registered: March 14, 2010
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