Congress Planning Dinner #2 SKYPE NOTES

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Created on 2011-02-01 22:24:28.

2011-02-01

doug: 20:27:08

guy from do:Tank talking about how they do DIY stuff in public space

doug: 20:27:11

urban improvement

doug: 20:27:36

dotankbrooklyn.org

doug: 20:29:09

spaceship --- you get that? 1st/3rd world collab!

Kerem Halbrecht: 20:29:38

Totally they did it here already

doug: 20:32:27

paper tiger talking now

doug: 20:32:34

video collective

doug: 20:32:36

based in nyc

doug: 20:33:04

a non hierarchical consus based organization


Are they in the peace pentagon?

doug: 20:33:45

i'll ask ... hang on

doug: 20:34:25

paper tiger is situated against corporate media

doug: 20:34:38

that critiques the media

doug: 20:34:50

yes

doug: 20:34:54

they're in it.


Cool

file:///Users/xtina/Desktop/FLUX FACTORY/Curatorial/Con

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doug: 20:51:22

and organize lectures about weather

doug: 20:51:47

recently organized a talk about a storm chaser

sdiianni: 20:52:15

cool. website?

doug: 20:52:25

spweatherstation.net

doug: 20:52:46

jean talking about flux now

doug: 20:53:07

residency w/ 16 artists

doug: 20:53:25

(i have you guys quieted so we don't hear the typing)

doug: 20:54:01

flux is super prolific, lots of kinds of projects

doug: 20:54:09

everything is collectively generated

doug: 20:54:34

super diverse projects

doug: 20:54:46

we also throw parties

doug: 20:54:50

like meow wolf

sdiianni: 20:54:57

: )

doug: 20:55:04

planning happens aroudn kitchen table


we have parties also


!


mewo

doug: 20:56:07

jason now talking about "wunderland"

doug: 20:56:21

10 year collective


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doug: 20:56:23

just evicted

doug: 20:56:27

future unclear

doug: 20:56:51

was shared space the shared vision?

doug: 20:56:54

it's unclear

doug: 20:57:27

work in public space

doug: 20:57:46

he's describing a big prank at iceskating rink

sdiianni: 21:03:06

does spaceship have a website?


no

doug: 21:03:29

ted just arrived from do tank


hi ted

doug: 21:03:42

nathalie arrived from sp weather station

doug: 21:04:20

ted's talking about what we thought the format of the congress could be

doug: 21:04:41

(can you hear christina?)


yes

sdiianni: 21:04:53

yes


we have a website for the news we produce


in hebrew though

doug: 21:05:18

hmmm

doug: 21:10:46

elizabeth is talking about a friend who's studying urban planning and collectives


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doug: 21:12:24

ideas about new collectives to invite:

red channels

doug: 21:12:32

study collective action

doug: 21:12:39

and do screenings, make docs, etc.

doug: 21:12:59

5 day marathon festival

doug: 21:13:21

designed with a collective curating process with films about /by collectives

doug: 21:13:40

might be retrofitted for congress

doug: 21:13:53

---- space ship

doug: 21:14:00

you video would fit well


its design and build


not just build

doug: 21:16:52

do tank knows about you guys

doug:21:17:03

they use the notion of "blitz" to transform a space


arcitectual terrorism

doug: 21:17:42

flaw is that it fails to transform a place longterm


i have something to say about that

doug: 21:18:06

ok i'll turn you updoug: 21:18:08

in moment

doug: 21:18:35

ken farmer

doug: 21:18:38

ted ulrich


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doug: 21:18:47

hello

doug: 21:28:58

(i'm not sure how to interpret this into the chat)

sdiianni: 21:29:07

it's ok. I think i'm following

sdiianni: 21:29:14

we're following

doug: 21:29:20

want to comment meow wofl?

sdiianni: 21:29:44

yes

doug: 21:29:49

ok hang on


the congress is about openess

doug: 21:30:08

christina is saying: if youwant to initate somthing, do it


we agree


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology


we think it should have a few missions


and also the working vacation as a guidline

sdiianni: 21:33:50

maybe missions would be good. the idea of "a broad, open invitation" seems important.

doug: 21:37:24

(can you hear kevin / justseeds?)

sdiianni: 21:37:30

yes


yes

doug: 21:40:57

ted says:

doug: 21:41:18

a lot of us respond to local conditions


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doug: 21:41:23

sees a tension

doug: 21:41:35

between international congress and local action

doug: 21:41:49

how does one group inform another?

doug: 21:41:50

will it work?

doug: 21:42:10

christina says it's case-by-case

doug: 21:42:29

ted says

doug: 21:42:33

the tension is compelling

doug: 21:45:19

how do we raise money ?

doug: 21:45:31

we need your help international people

doug: 21:45:36

so we can get you here


i think we need everybody to write: how to work and what does our work mean

doug: 21:46:30

ok.


i think money is secondary to planning what to do


we can do something for free or for 500K$, we don't know the scale, no?

doug: 21:47:25

ted says we should document these moments

doug: 21:48:09

would just seeds be inerested in using it mechanism to raise money?

doug: 21:48:16

kevin says maybe

sdiianni: 21:48:21

cool idea

doug: 21:48:35

paper tiger could make a video to advertise


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doug: 21:49:41

paper tiger could make

doug: 21:49:50

video profiles of each collective

doug: 21:49:55

to help represent who's involved

doug: 21:50:30

would work well for international groups

doug: 21:51:08

(conversation is slowing and somewhat fragmented)

doug: 21:51:26

(discussing way so to try to engage groups spread out)

sdiianni: 21:51:28

we like the idea of continuing via email etc.

doug: 21:51:33

great.


us too

doug: 21:51:41

ok

sdiianni: 21:51:43

this has given lots of good ideas

doug: 21:51:45

we'll aslo

doug: 21:51:46

good!

doug: 21:51:53

we'll also get the websute up asap

doug: 21:52:07

which will allow for both public and private discussion


sounds great

sdiianni: 21:52:27

cool.

doug: 21:52:30

yes!

sdiianni: 21:52:38

Thanks for having us!


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we also are signing off

doug: 22:04:10

challenge format of pane;

doug: 22:04:13

panel


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