CHOOSING YOUR TARGETS WHILE RESUSCITATING SEPSIS Antoine Vieillard-Baron, Boulogne, France.
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Transcript of CHOOSING YOUR TARGETS WHILE RESUSCITATING SEPSIS Antoine Vieillard-Baron, Boulogne, France.
HEMODYNAMIC MONITORING Understanding the physiology
CHOOSING YOUR TARGETS WHILE RESUSCITATING SEPSISAntoine Vieillard-Baron, Boulogne, France
Crit Care 2008IS IT REALLY SERIOUS TO BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE COULD BE RESUSCITATED USING THE SAME TARGETS?THIS IS THE MAIN ISSUE OF THE EVIDENCE-BASED MEDICINE
CVP 8-12 mmHgSVRMSPRAP
From Guyton Physiol Rev 1955 In physiology, the principle is to maintain the CVP as low as possibleto promote systemic venous return. And this is the role of the RV
CCM 2007
MAP > 65 mmHg
Laminary flow in a patient under VA ECMO8
MAP is a determinant for organ perfusionWindkessel effect: Transformation of the pulsatile flow into a continuous one (Stephen Hales 1677-1761)MAP = CO x SVR + RAPVolume, inotropesVasopressorsVolume10
No change in CO
BaselineVasodilation388 patients in each group(65-70 versus 80-85)
Sv(c)O2 > 65% (70)
Crit Care Med 2012
Pattern 1Pattern 2
LACTATE CLEARANCE
Jama 2010Study of non-inferiorityGoal: 10% lactate clearance
NO DIFFERENCE IN LACTATE CLEARANCE BETWEEN BOTH GROUPS??AJRCCM 2010
IS THERE SOMETHING NEW?
Usual-care: 439 patientsEGDT: 446 patients
90d-Mortality ~31-33% May 2014
Usual-care: 804 patientsEGDT: 796 patients90d-Mortality ~18% October 2014H0-6Rivers (EGDT)Arise (usual care)ProCESS (usual care)Rivers (control)Fluids (mL)49811713(+2591)23003499Vasopressors (%)27584430Red-cell transfusion (%)6477.518.5Dobutamine (%)13.72.60.90.8CVP (mmHg)13.811.9NA11.8MAP (mmHg)9575768160-d mortality (%)4418.818.957
ProCESS: CVP not permitted in the usual care groupArise: CVP permitted according to physicians decision (62% of patients)
0.7%/site/3 months27
CONCLUSIONTOO MUCH MONEY TO DEMONSTRATENOTHING, EXCEPT THAT YOU HAVE TO RESUSCITATEPATIENTS AND THAT TIME IS CRUCIALLITTERATURE IS VERY CONFUSINGAND THE MAIN GOAL SEEMS TO PUBLISHIN BIG JOURNALSIN AN IDEAL WORLD, RESUSCITATION HAS TO BE ADAPTED TO EACH PATIENT BASED ON A GOOD KNOWLEDGE OF PHYSIOLOGY