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    There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereofare the ways of death. Proverbs 16:25

    CHARTING THE PAGANISM OF GALEN AND JUNGJust look at these disturbing facts behind the background and beliefs of two men, Galen and

    Jung, who Warren has relied on to develop his Personality Theory in SHAPE

    GALEN OF PERGAMUM CARL JUNG BIBLICAL RESPONSE

    THEIR GENERAL BACKGROUND

    GALEN JUNG BIBLE

    Galen of Pergamum, a pagan

    physician and philosopher born in

    A.D. 131, was strongly influenced

    by the Greek myths and the

    Hippocratic Treatises. Though

    Galens teachings on medicine were

    influential for centuries after his

    death, very little is known abouthim personally. Some of his

    writings have been preserved, but

    many were lost forever in a library

    fire during his lifetime.

    He was best known for his

    extensive anatomical studies, his

    elaborate pharmacological formulas,

    and his theory on the four

    temperaments (melancholic,

    phlegmatic, sanguine, and choleric)to classify human dispositions.

    Jung was certainly not a religious

    man in the Christian, Jewish,

    Moslem or Buddhist sense. He wasessentially a pagan, more

    specifically a worshipper of evil

    gods and goddesses rather than

    those of the Olympian religion.

    Jung with his mixture of

    sophisticated superstition, vague

    pagan idolatry, and equally vague

    talk about God, together with hisclaim that he was building a bridge

    between religion and psychology,

    offered the right mixture to an age

    of little faith and little reason.(Erich Fromm, C.G. Jung: Prophet

    of the Unconscious, Scientific

    American, 1963, p.209)

    Jung's psychological theories

    were constructed deliberately, and

    Romans 1:21-22: For even though

    they knew God, they did not honor

    Him as God, or give thanks; but they

    became futile in their speculations,

    and their foolish heart was darkened.

    Professing to be wise, they became

    fools

    I Cor. 1:20-23: Where is the wise

    man? Where is the scribe? Where is

    the debater of this age? Has not God

    made foolish the wisdom of the

    world? For since in the wisdom of

    God the world through its wisdomdid not come to know God, God was

    well-pleased through the foolishness

    of the message preached to save

    those who believe. For indeed Jews

    ask for signs, and Greeks search for

    wisdom; but we preach Christ

    crucified, to Jews a stumbling block,

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    As a typical Greek, he was brought

    up in the pagan myths of his day

    and was not a Christian, though he

    seemingly appreciated the Christian

    sect as a philosophical school ofthought. As a student of medicine,

    he became a devotee of Asclepius,

    the Greek god of healing, and morethan likely adhered to the

    Hippocratic oath which stated, I

    swear by Apollo the physician, and

    Asclepius, and Health, and All-heal,

    and all the gods and goddesses, that,

    according to my ability and

    judgment, I will keep this Oath andthis stipulation

    somewhat deceptively...to make his

    own magical, polytheist, pagan

    world view more palatable to a

    secularized world conditioned to

    respect only those ideas that seem tohave a scientific flair to them.

    (Richard Noll, The Aryan Christ:

    The Secret Life of Carl Jung,Random House, 1997, xv)

    and to Gentiles foolishness

    Rev. 22:14-15: Blessed are those

    who wash their robes, so that they

    may have the right to the tree of lifeand that they may enter the city by

    the gates. Outside are the dogs and

    sorcerers and the sexually immoraland murderers and idolaters, and

    everyone who loves and practices

    falsehood.

    THEIR BELIEF IN ASTROLOGY

    GALEN JUNG BIBLE

    As an admirer of Hippocratic

    medicine, Galen promoted and

    improved on the theory of the four

    temperaments, or humors. The

    humors were associated with the

    time of the year, the astrologicalcycles, and the astrological

    information pertaining to a person's

    birth. These changes in nature's

    cycles would cause subtle changes

    in a person's basic balance of

    humors, perhaps making them more

    susceptible to humoral imbalances.

    Thus doctors also had to be wellversed in astrology, besides their

    medical training to treat theirpatients correctly.

    Hippocrates, Galens predecessor inGreek medicine, is recorded saying:

    He who does not understand

    astrology is not a doctor but a fool.

    it must be confidentlydemonstrated that fire, earth, air,and water are the primary elements

    In May of 1911 Carl Jung wrote his

    (at that time) mentor Sigmund

    Freud saying: Occultism is another

    field we shall have to conquer - with

    the aid of the libido theory, it seems

    to me. At the moment I am lookinginto astrology, which seems

    indispensable for a proper

    understanding of mythology. There

    are strange and wondrous things in

    these lands of darkness.

    Please don't worry about mywanderings in these infinitudes. I

    shall return laden with rich booty

    for our knowledge of the human

    psyche.... For a while longer I mustintoxicate myself on magic

    perfumes in order to fathom thesecrets that lie hidden in the abysses

    of the unconscious

    In a subsequent follow-up letter,

    Jung wrote Freud that his (Jung's)

    evenings were currently being takenup largely with astrology and the

    Isaiah 47:12-15: Stand now with

    thine enchantments, and with the

    multitude of thy sorceries, wherein

    thou hast laboured from thy youth; if

    so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so

    be thou mayest prevail. Thou artwearied in the multitude of thy

    counsels. Let now the astrologers, the

    stargazers, the monthly

    prognosticators, stand up, and save

    thee from these things that shall

    come upon thee. Behold, they shall

    be as stubble; the fire shall burn

    them; they shall not deliverthemselves from the power of the

    flame: there shall not be a coal towarm at, nor fire to sit before it. Thus

    shall they be unto thee with whom

    thou hast laboured, even thy

    merchants, from thy youth: they shall

    wander every one to his quarter; none

    shall save thee.

    Jeremiah 10:2-3: Thus saith the

    LORD, Learn not the way of the

    heathen, and be not dismayed at the

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    common to all things... and in his

    book On the Nature of Man,

    Hippocrates is first to explain not

    merely that these are the elements

    of all the cosmos, but he is also thefirst one to determine the qualities

    of the elements - qualities according

    to which one thing acts on othersand is affected. (Galen's On the

    Elements According to

    Hippocrates)

    calculating of horoscopes: in order

    to find a clue to the core of human

    psychology. (From The

    Freud/Jung Letters, Abridged

    Edition, 1979)

    Letter written to Hindu astrologer,

    B.V. Raman, September 6th 1947:Since you want to know my

    opinion about astrology I can tell

    you that I've been interested in this

    particular activity of the human

    mind since more than 30 years. As Iam a psychologist, I am chiefly

    interested in the particular light the

    horoscope sheds on certain

    complications in the character. In

    cases of difficult psychological

    diagnosis I usually get a horoscope

    in order to have a further point of

    view from an entirely differentangle. I must say that I very often

    found that the astrological dataelucidated certain points which I

    otherwise would have been unable

    to understand. From such

    experiences I formed the opinion

    that astrology is of particular

    interest to the psychologist, since it

    contains a sort of psychological

    experience which we call 'projected'- this means that we find the

    psychological facts as it were in the

    constellations.

    ...the serpentine way of theindividual is the straightest way he

    can possibly go. That is symbolized

    by the serpentine way of the sun

    through the Zodiac, and the

    Zodiacal serpent is Christ, who said:

    "I am the way [John 14:6]. He is theserpent, so in the early Christian

    church he is the sun, and the signs

    of the Zodiac, the apostles, are the

    twelve months of the year. (C.G.

    Jung,Dream Analysis, pp. 307-308.)

    signs of heaven; for the heathen are

    dismayed at them. For the customs of

    the people are vain

    (See also Deut. 18:9-12)

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    THEIR BELIEF IN PAGANISM AND THE OCCULT

    GALEN JUNG BIBLE

    In his youth, Galen had a dream that

    Asclepius (or Asklepius), the Greek

    god of healing, told him to studymedicine and he thus became an

    attendant of Asclepius within the

    pagan temple dedicated to the god.

    People came from all over the world

    to be healed by the god Asclepius,who was worshiped in the form of a

    living serpent fed in the temple. The

    serpent was intimately connected

    with one of the ways in which cures

    were effected. Sufferers were

    allowed to spend the night in the

    darkness of the temple. In thetemple there were non-poisonous

    snakes. If the sufferer was touched

    by the harmless snakes during thenight (which was equivalent in their

    thinking to being touched by a god

    himself) he would be healed.

    Galen records with apparent

    agreement the case of a wealthyman who came to the shrine of

    Asclepius at Pergamum and was

    cured there by a dream from

    Asclepius (Subfiguratio Empirica10,78 Deichgrber = Edelstein &

    Edelstein T436, p. 250) and

    acknowledges his own cure at the

    hands of the god (De Libris

    Propriis 2 = Edelstein & Edelstein

    T458, p. 263).

    Jung attended seances with his

    cousin Helene Preiswerk and wrote

    his dissertation on her psychicexperiences, On Psychology and

    Pathology of So-Called Occult

    Phenomena (1902). Beginning in

    1913 he conversed with spirit

    guides, in particular a guide named

    Philemon, whom he called his

    guru. One afternoon in the

    summer of 1916 Jung experiencedspirits in his house. They gave him

    what was to be the first sentence,

    and under inspiration he wrote

    Seven Sermons to the Dead in three

    evenings. Jung felt that he wasexpressing the ideas of Philemon.

    He distributed it privately under the

    pseudonym Basilides. Jung said:All my works, all my creative

    activity, has come from those initial

    fantasies and dreams which began

    in 1912 (MDR, p.217).

    Philemon (Jungs spirit guide) wasa pagan and brought with him an

    Egypto-Hellenistic atmosphere with

    a Gnostic colouration. (Jung, from

    Confrontation with theUnconscious MDR, pp. 174-8,

    181-5)

    Philemon and other figures of myfantasies brought home to me the

    crucial insight that there are things

    in the psyche which I do notproduce, but which produce

    themselves and have their own life.

    Philemon represented a force which

    was not myself. In my fantasies I

    held conversations with him, and he

    said things which I had notconsciously thought. For I observed

    clearly that it was he who spoke, not

    I. . . . Psychologically, Philemon

    represented superior insight. He wasa mysterious figure to me. At times

    he seemed to me quite real, as if he

    Exodus 20:3: You shall have no

    other gods before Me.

    Leviticus 19:31: Do not turn to

    mediums or wizards; do not seek

    them out, and so make yourselves

    unclean by them: I am the Lord your

    God.

    Deut. 18:9-14: When you come into

    the land that the Lord your God is

    giving you, you shall not learn to

    follow the abominable practices of

    those nations. There shall not be

    found among you anyone who burns

    his son or his daughter as an offering,anyone who practices divination ortells fortunes or interprets omens, or

    a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium

    or a wizard or a necromancer, for

    whoever does these things is an

    abomination to the Lord. And

    because of these abominations the

    Lord your God is driving them out

    before you. You shall be blamelessbefore the Lord your God, for these

    nations, which you are about to

    dispossess, listen to fortune-tellers

    and to diviners. But as for you, theLord your God has not allowed you

    to do this.

    1 Chron. 10:13-14: So Saul died forhis breach of faith. He broke faith

    with the Lord in that he did not keep

    the command of the Lord, and also

    consulted a medium, seeking

    guidance. He did not seek guidance

    from the Lord. Therefore the Lord

    put him to death and turned the

    kingdom over to David the son of

    Jesse.

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    were a living personality. I went

    walking up and down the garden

    with him, and to me he was what

    the Indians call a guru. (Jung,

    Memories, Dreams, Reflections, op.cit., p. 183.)

    In 1935 Jung started buildingBollingen Tower, a stone building

    by a lake, which represented

    himself. After the death of his wife

    in 1955, he so considered Bollingen

    his true home that he had Shrine ofPhilemon inscribed over its

    entrance. (Memories, Dreams,

    Recollections, p.235)

    THEIR FALSE VIEW OF CHRISTIANITY

    GALEN JUNG BIBLE

    Galen compared medical doctorswho practiced without scientific

    training to Moses, who promulgated

    laws and wrote his books without

    proofs, simply saying, 'God

    commanded, God spoke!' In histreatise de usu partium Galen

    criticized the Mosaic cosmogony

    and rejected its reliance on divinemiracle. (Stephen Benko, Pagan

    Rome and the Early Christians, BT

    Batsford Ltd, London, 1984, p 142-

    3)

    Galen was a pagan who was criticalof Christianity, but from an

    objective and scientific point of

    view. He was an ancient scientist,

    involved in live animal vivisectionsand as a gladiator physician able to

    observe human responses. Thus he

    had no respect for religions that

    were based on faith alone, because

    in his opinion faith was a poor

    substitute for experienced truth.

    The utter failure came at theCrucifixion in the tragic words, "My

    God, my God, why hast thou

    forsaken me?" If you want to

    understand the full tragedy of those

    words you must realize what theymeant: Christ saw that his whole

    life, devoted to the truth according

    to his best conviction, had been aterrible illusion

    We all must do just what Christdid. We must make our experiment.

    We must make mistakes. We must

    live out our own vision of life. And

    there will be error. If you avoid

    error you do not live; in a sense

    even it may be said that every life is

    a mistake, for no one has found thetruth. When we live like this weknow Christ as a brother, and God

    indeed becomes man. This sounds

    like a terrible blasphemy, but not so.

    For then only can we understand

    Christ as he would want to be

    Matthew 10:32-33: Jesus said, So

    everyone who acknowledges me

    before men, I also will acknowledge

    before my Father who is in heaven,but whoever denies me before men, I

    also will deny before my Father whois in heaven.

    1 John 2:22: Who is the liar but he

    who denies that Jesus is the Christ?

    This is the antichrist, he who denies

    the Father and the Son.

    Psalm 26:2-5: Prove me, O Lord,

    and try me; test my heart and my

    mind. For your steadfast love is

    before my eyes, and I walk in your

    faithfulness. I do not sit with men of

    falsehood, nor do I consort withhypocrites. I hate the assembly ofevildoers, and I will not sit with the

    wicked.

    1 Cor. 15:33: Do not be deceived:

    Bad company corrupts good

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    understood, as a fellow man; then

    only does God become man in

    ourselves. (Jung, New York

    Lecture, edited by Lane A. Pratt,

    1972.)

    The self or Christ is present ineverybody, a priori, but as a rulein an unconscious condition to

    begin with. But it is a definite

    experience of later life, when the

    fact becomes conscious. It is not

    really understood by teaching or

    suggestion. It is only real when it

    happens, and it can happen only

    when you withdraw yourprojections from an outward

    historical or metaphysical Christand wake up this Christ within.

    (C.G. Jung, Psychology and

    Religion West and East, CollectedWorks 11, par 1638, c1958)

    I had been living with the stillmedieval concepts of my parents,

    for whom the world and men were

    still presided over by divineomnipotence and providence. This

    world had become antiquated and

    obsolete. My Christian faith had

    become relative through its

    encounter with Eastern religions

    and Greek philosophy. (Jung,Man

    and His Symbols, p.43)

    Jung was waging war againstChristianity and its distant, absolute,

    unreachable God and was traininghis disciples to listen to the voice of

    the dead and to become gods

    themselves. (Richard Noll, The

    Jung Cult, p. 224)

    morals.

    2 Cor. 6:14-16: Do not be unequally

    yoked with unbelievers. For what

    partnership has righteousness withlawlessness? Or what fellowship has

    light with darkness? What accord has

    Christ with Belial? Or what portiondoes a believer share with an

    unbeliever? What agreement has the

    temple of God with idols?...

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    ARE THESE THE KINDS OF INFLUENCES RICK WARRENBELIEVES CAN BRING GODLY INSIGHT TO CHRISTIANS?

    THE BIBLE SAYS: Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what

    partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has

    light with darkness? Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what hasa believer in common with an unbeliever? --- I Cor. 6:14-15.

    All my works, all my creative activity, has comefrom those initial fantasies and dreams which began

    in 1912. ~ Carl Jung, on the occult influence uponthe whole of his work.

    Ask yourself questions: Am I more introverted orextroverted? Am I more a thinker or a feeler? ~Rick Warren, using exact Jungian psychological

    typology in his SHAPE program.

    THE SADDLEBACK RESPONSE: PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MANBEHIND THE CURTAIN...

    SHAPE is originated by Pastor Rick Warren, our senior pastornot Carl Jung. There

    are NO connections between the two and there is absolutely no reason to try to connectthem.

    Written by Erik Rees, Pastor of Ministry & Small Group Leadership Development at Saddleback Church, in a letter to

    James Sundquist, 2/19/2004.

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    CHARTING THE WARREN-JUNG CONNECTION

    RICK WARREN CARL JUNG BIBLICAL RESPONSE

    THEIR CONNECTION ON PERSONALITY THEORY

    WARREN JUNG BIBLE

    When you minister in a mannerconsistent with the personality God

    gave you, you experiencefulfillment, satisfaction, and

    fruitfulness. (The Purpose Driven

    Life, p. 246)

    when you are forced to ministerin a manner that is out of

    character for your temperament, it

    creates tension and discomfort,

    requires extra effort and energy, andproduces less than the best results.

    This is why mimicking someoneelses ministry never works. You

    dont have their personality. (PDL,

    p. 245)

    the ultimate aim and strongestdesire of all mankind is to develop

    that fulness (sic) of life which iscalled personality To the extent

    that a man is untrue to the law of his

    being and does not rise to

    personality, he has failed to realize

    his lifes meaning. (The

    Development of Personality,

    Collected Works 17; from The

    Essential Jung, pg. 191, 207)

    There is absolutely no biblicalprecedent for this position.

    Personality typology has never been

    a criteria for God choosing someone

    for ministry, but is in great part

    grounded in Jungian psychology.

    Did Paul rely on personality

    assessment to guide his ministry?Hardly...

    God has chosen the weak things ofthe world to shame the things which

    are strong, and the base things of the

    world and the despised, God has

    chosen, the things that are not, that

    He might nullify the things that are,

    that no man should boast before

    God. 1 Cor 1:27-29

    And He has said to me, My graceis sufficient for you, for power is

    perfected in weakness. Most gladly,therefore, I will rather boast about

    my weaknesses, that the power of

    Christ may dwell in me. Therefore Iam well content with weaknesses,

    with insults, with distresses, with

    persecutions, with difficulties, for

    Christ's sake; for when I am weak,

    then I am strong. 2 Cor 12:9-10

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    THEIR CONNECTION ON A MUTUAL BELIEF IN THE "UNCONSCIOUS"

    WARREN JUNG BIBLE

    You may be driven by a painfulmemory, a haunting fear, or an

    unconscious belief. (PDL, p. 27)

    (Guilt-driven people) oftenunconsciously punish themselves by

    sabotaging their own success.

    (PDL, pp. 27-28)

    The unconscious . . . is the sourceof the instinctual forces of the

    psyche and of the forms or

    categories that regulate them,

    namely the archetypes. (The

    Structure of the Psyche, CW 8, par.

    342)

    Constant observation pays theunconscious a tribute that more orless guarantees its cooperation. One

    of the most important tasks of

    psychic hygiene [is] to pay

    continual attention to the

    symptomatology of unconscious

    contents and processes. (The

    Portable Jung, New York: Penguin

    Books, 1986, p. 156)

    The unconscious is the

    foundational concept of both

    Freudian and Jungian psychology,

    and has no biblical basis whatsoever.In fact, Scripture does not allow for

    the idea that people are driven by

    an unconscious belief. By

    endorsing the idea of the

    unconscious, Warren is promoting the

    Jungian belief that people must

    analyze the forces of the unconscious

    to discover their lifes purpose.

    According to Scripture, any driving

    force outside of Gods will is sin, no

    matter where it resides. Psychology,

    however, downplays our personal

    accountability for sin by making the

    unconscious the ultimate reservoir

    and bastion of unavoidable humaninstinct.

    And he that doubteth is damned ifhe eat, because [he eateth] not of

    faith: for whatsoever [is] not of faith

    is sin. Romans 14:23

    THEIR CONNECTION ON UNCONSCIOUS METAPHORS & IMAGES

    WARREN JUNGBIBLE

    If I asked how you picture life,

    what image would come to yourmind? That image is your life

    metaphor. Its the view of life that

    you hold, consciously or

    unconsciously, in your mind.(PDL, pp. 41-42)

    An archetypal content expresses

    itself, first and foremost, inmetaphors. (The Psychology of

    the Child Archetype, CW 9i, par.

    267)

    Archetypes are not inborn ideas, but

    typical forms of behaviour which,

    The analysis of metaphors housed

    in the unconscious is a trademarkconcept of psychology, not ofScripture. The use of images,

    fantasies, and dreams to better

    understand our unconscious is a

    signature feature of Jungian

    psychotherapy that borders on the

    occult.

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    Your unspoken life metaphorinfluences your life more than yourealize. It determines your

    expectations, your values, your

    relationships, your goals, and your

    priorities. (PDL, p. 42)

    once they become conscious,

    naturally present themselves as

    ideas and images, like everything

    else that becomes a content of

    consciousness. (Collected Works 8,par. 435)

    Indeed, the fate of the individual islargely dependent on unconscious

    factors. (Conscious, Unconscious,

    and Individuation CW 9)

    THEIR CONNECTION ON USING JUNGIAN TERMINOLOGY

    WARREN JUNG BIBLE

    God made introverts andextroverts He made some people

    thinkersand others feelers.

    (PDL, p. 245)

    Your personality will affect howand where you use your spiritualgifts and abilities. For instance, two

    people may have the same gift of

    evangelism, but if one is introverted

    and other is extroverted, that gift

    will be expressed in different ways.

    (PDL, p. 245)

    Ask yourself questions: Am Imore introverted or extroverted?

    Am I more a thinker or a feeler?

    (PDL, pp.251-252)

    Two types (of typical differencesin human psychology) especially

    become clear to me; I have termed

    them the introverted and theextraverted types. (Introduction

    Psychological Types, CW 6 par. 1)

    I have found from experience thatthe basic psychological functions,

    this is, functions which are

    genuinely as well as essentially

    different from other functions,

    prove to be thinking, feeling,

    sensation, and intuition. If one of

    these functions habituallypredominates, a corresponding type

    results. I therefore distinguish a

    thinking, a feeling, a sensation, and

    an intuitive type.Each of these

    types may moreover be either

    introverted or extraverted

    (Introduction Psychological

    Types, CW 6)

    Warren is explicitly using the specificterminology of the psychological

    typology theory originally conceived

    by Carl Jung. Despite the claims of

    his supporters, Warren has clearly

    based his Personality Theory (the "P"

    in his SHAPE teaching) on the

    unbiblical foundation of Jungian

    psychology.

    Beware lest any man spoil youthrough philosophy and vain deceit,after the tradition of men, after the

    rudiments of the world, and not after

    Christ. Colossians 2:8

    Now we have received, not thespirit of the world, but the Spirit who

    is from God, that we might know the

    things freely given to us by God,

    which things we also speak, not in

    words taught by human wisdom, but

    in those taught by the Spirit,combining spiritual thoughts with

    spiritual words. 1 Cor 2:12-13

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    THEIR CONNECTION ON THE FOUR TEMPERAMENTS

    WARREN JUNG BIBLE

    The Bible gives us plenty of proofthat God uses all types of

    personalities. Peter was a sanguine.Paul was a choleric. Jeremiah was a

    melancholy. When you look at the

    personality differences in the twelve

    disciples, its easy to see why they

    sometimes had interpersonal

    conflict. (PDL, p. 245)

    There is no right or wrongtemperament for ministry. (PDL, p.245)

    the physicians of ancienttimestried to reduce the

    bewildering diversity of mankind toorderly groups The very names of

    the Galenic temperaments betray

    their origin in the pathology of the

    four humours.Melancholic

    denotes a preponderance of black

    bile,phlegmatic a preponderance of

    phlegm or mucus, sanguine a

    preponderance of blood, andcholeric a preponderance of choler,

    or yellow bile. (Psychological

    Typology CW 6)

    The whole make-up of the body,its constitution in the broadest

    sense, has in fact a very great deal

    to do with psychological

    temperament (Psychological

    Typology CW 6)

    Despite Warrens claim, the Bible

    never gives proof of the

    classification of personalities; it is apurely pagan concoction. The four

    temperaments, as conceived by

    Hippocrates and later developed byGalen, was a prevalent Greek

    philosophy during the time of Paulsapostolic ministry. Unlike Warren

    and Jung, however, Paul did not

    implement these Greeks ideas into

    his teachings. In fact, he categorically

    rejected them and determined to

    know nothing among you except

    Jesus Christ, and Him crucified (I

    Cor 2:2).

    O Timothy, keep that which iscommitted to thy trust, avoidingprofane [and] vain babblings, and

    oppositions of science falsely so

    called: I Timothy 6:20

    Worse yet, Warren is teaching that a

    persons no right or wrongpersonality is somehow unaffected by

    the fall and is always beneficial for

    ministry. How, we ask, does a

    phlegmatic temperament towardslaziness and slothfulness serve Gods

    purpose in ministry?

    THEIR CONNECTION ON PERSONALITY TESTING

    WARREN JUNG BIBLE

    Today there are many books andtools that can help you understand

    your personality so you can

    determine how to use it for God.

    (PDL, p. 246)

    MBTI is based on Jungs theory of

    psychological types. (Isabel BriggsMyers, Introduction to Type, PaloAlto, CA: Consulting Psychologists

    Press, 1983, p.4)

    The (MBTI) Indicator wasdeveloped specifically to carry Carl

    Without qualifying this statement,

    Warren is promoting any and allJungian personality and temperamenttests and theories, including the

    widely-used Myers-Briggs Type

    Indicator (MBTI), the Kiersey

    Temperament Sorter (an offshoot of

    the MBTI), and the Enneagram Test,

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    Jungs theory of type (Jung, 1921,

    1971) into practical application.

    (Dr. Gordon Lawrence, People

    Types & Tiger Stripes, p. 6, also p.

    x)

    Carl Jungs psychology liesbehind...the MBTI. (Robert Innes,Personality Indicators and The

    Spiritual Life, p.8)

    which has its origin in Sufism, a

    mystical offshoot of Islam. (Click

    here for more information on

    Enneagram).

    Despite the contrary advice offered

    by Warren, Christians must

    acknowledge the Bible as the onlybook needed to understand the

    human condition:

    For the word of God [is] quick, andpowerful, and sharper than any two-

    edged sword, piercing even to the

    dividing asunder of soul and spirit,

    and of the joints and marrow, and [is]a discerner of the thoughts and

    intents of the heart. Hebrews 4:12

    (See also II Timothy 3:16-17)

    THEIR CONNECTION ON THE ENDORSEMENT OF PSYCHOLOGY

    WARREN JUNG BIBLE

    Every behavior is motivated by abelief, and every action is prompted

    by an attitude. God revealed this

    thousands of years beforepsychologists understood it. (PDL,

    p. 181)

    (Unconscious phenomena)manifest themselves in the

    individuals behaviour

    (Conscious, Unconscious, andIndividuation CW 9)

    Modern psychologicaldevelopment leads to a much better

    understanding as to what man really

    consists of. (Psychology and

    Religion CW 11)

    Warren is suggesting here that

    psychologists have the same

    understanding as God on the issue of

    human behavior, thus putting manswisdom on equal footing with

    Gods revelation.

    If Warren truly believes in the

    preeminence of Gods revelation tounderstand man, then why does he

    rely so heavily on the useless

    wisdom of psychology instead of

    Scripture?

    For the wisdom of this world isfoolishness before God. For it is

    written, He is THE ONE WHOCATCHES THE WISE IN THEIR

    CRAFTINESS; and again, THE

    LORD KNOWS THEREASONINGS of the wise, THAT

    THEY ARE USELESS. I Cor 3:19-

    20

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    THEIR CONNECTION ON FINDING AND DEVELOPING PERSONALITY

    WARREN JUNG BIBLE

    The best use of your life is to serve

    God out of your shape. To do thisyou must discover your shape, learn

    to accept and enjoy it, and then

    develop it to its fullest potential.

    (PDL, p. 249)

    The SHAPE program states: To

    discover your S.H.A.P.E. is to

    discover where God is calling you

    to do His work in the world.

    Only the man who can consciously

    assent to the power of the innervoice becomes a personality. (The

    Development of Personality CW

    17)

    The achievement of personalitymeans nothing less than the

    optimum development of the whole

    individual human being. (TheDevelopment of Personality CW

    17)

    In so far as every individual hasthe law of his life inborn in him, itis theoretically possible for any man

    to follow this law and to become a

    personality, this is, to achieve

    wholeness. (The Development ofPersonality CW 17)

    Finding your SHAPE has no biblical

    support. Warrens teaching that onemust discover his shape is

    philosophically and systematicallyakin to Jungs teaching that a man

    must consciously assent to the

    power of the inner voice and be true

    to the law of his being.

    While Warren has rightlyacknowledged Gods sovereign

    purpose in creating us, he has

    mistakenly made Gods divine

    purpose synonymous with our so-

    called shape by advocating theJungian idea of developing the

    personality to achieve wholeness.

    This Jungian process, however, does

    not serve God, but serves the god

    within us.

    Scripture calls for an active, heartfelt

    obedience to Gods will through the

    transforming power of the Spirit, not

    a misguided exploration of our

    natural psychological makeup todefine our God-given purpose.

    Trust in the LORD with all thineheart; and lean not unto thine own

    understanding. In all thy ways

    acknowledge him, and he shall direct

    thy paths. Proverbs 3:5-6

    your faith should not rest on thewisdom of men, but on the power of

    God. 1 Cor 2:5

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    CONCLUSION: THIS IS NOT SIMPLY "GUILT BY ASSOCIATION"

    Yes, Jesus associated with sinners, but he certainly didn't borrow his teachings fromthe Pharisees or any other false teachers. Clearly there is a very tangible connectionbetween Rick Warren's SHAPE teaching on personality and the psychological

    theories of Carl Jung. Not only does Warren base his teachings on parallelpsychological concepts, but he uses exactJungian terms to make his case. Byfocusing on assessing and developing ones personality as the key to a successful lifeor ministry, Warren, like Jung, is promoting a reliance on ones inner self instead ofon Gods transcendent truth and the working of the Holy Spirit. As a popularChristian teacher, how can Warren ignore the crucial biblical truths of the sufficiencyof Scripture and the power of the Holy Spirit to perfectly furnish every Christianwith the ability to minister according to God's purpose?

    All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable fordoctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto ALLGOOD WORKS. II Timothy 3:16-17

    According as his divine power hath given unto us ALL THINGSthat [pertain] unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him

    that hath called us to glory and virtue: II Peter 1:3

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