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Chapter 6: Reflection on how theTrust has failed Carnegie and thepeople
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Chapter 1: AndrewCarnegie and TheGlen
Chapter 2: Earlyhistory of the Trust,the Deed and RoyalCharter
Chapter 3: Recent
history of the Trust,and Royal Charters
Chapter 4: Harvardbusiness school andthe SecondSupplementaryCharter
Chapter 5: IsPittencrieff Parksafe with a Trustthat cant spell it?
Chapter 6: Reflectionon how the Trust hasfailed Carnegie and
the people
Chapter 7: Futurecampaigns to opposecommercialdevelopment in theGlen.
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Reflection on how the
Trust has failed Carnegie
and the people:
From r iches to rags .
Most of us start out in life with very little and if we work hard in our lifetimeand
overcome the hard times such as loss of job, bad investments, or other
misfortuneswe will be fortunate enough to earn ourselves the rewards of a house,
a car or in some other way better our lot. The Trust is the opposite of this. Starting
off with great wealth the Trust was able to stave off the effects of the Great
Depression, Stock Market Crash and two World Wars only to plummet into penury in
the boom years of the late 60s early 70s.
Was Ca r neg ie st i ngy w i th h i s tow ns fo l k ?
On 4th September 2006 during the petition campaign opposing commercial development of the
Glen, the Chairman of the Trust, Angus Hogg stated, in a press release widely published, Anyone
who believes that a legacy made more than 100 years ago could sustain the park forever is clearly
mistaken. This remark suggests that Andrew Carnegie was mistaken in thinking that he had left
adequate funds to last 100 years or more, and because of this it was reasonable for the Trust to
take extraordinary measures (such as the commercial development of parts of the Glen) to
replenish the coffers.
I agree with a previous Chairman, William Dick who in 1953 described Carnegies generous gift
as a lavish benefaction and would argue that Andrew Carnegie was a most able judge in
monetary matters and he of all people fully understood the investment markets as being a perfect
vehicle to fund (from the dividends from investments) the charities he set up to do good works and
dispense charity. Mr Hogg appears to be at odds with Carnegie on the adequacy of the legacy left
to finance the Dunfermline & Hero Fund Trusts aims. That the legacy left by Carnegie was
adequate for over 70 years is self-evident, as is the failure of the Trust to honour its obligations
regarding the Glen since 1975. The reason why this is so, is certainly open to debate and is not as
black and white as Mr Hogg would have us believe.
Carneg ie s ghos t in t he Abbey churchyard .
William Hershaw, a local poet was commissioned by a dance group to compose a poem to mark the
900th Anniversary of Saint Margaret. Hershaw composed a piece called Voices 900 which
imagined a conversation with famous ghosts from Dunfermlines past in the Abbey graveyard. The
poem was withdrawn because of objections made by the Carnegie Dunfermline Trust to references
in the poem about Andrew Carnegie and the trustees. To develop Hershaws theme it might be
interesting to imagine Angus Hogg, who is the Session Clerk at Dunfermline Abbey meeting with
the ghost of Andrew Carnegie in the Abbey graveyard one moonlight night. What criticism of the
adequacy of the Dunfermline & Hero Fund Trust endowment would Angus Hogg level at Andrew
Carnegie? And what response would Mr Hogg get from the greatest philanthropist the world has
ever known?
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Perhaps something like this might have been heard:
Hogg: I say Carnegie old chap dont you think you were a bit light on the funds? $4 million in your
days is only worth somewhere in the region of $240 million today, and its difficult to spin this out,
what with the markets being fickle and all. You do know about the markets dont you Andrew?
Carnegie: F#8**#d !!%#***k**##!!, and explodes in a puff of smoke.
What w as Ca r neg ie th i nk ing o f?
Carnegie found that having a certain amount of money in investments on the stock market andbonds brought its own problems. He tried dispensing his money through various gifts, mostly in
the USA, but also here to the Dunfermline, UK, Universities, and Hero Fund Trusts. However, as
hard as he tried his wealth remained the same, as it continued to increase in value from profits at
a greater rate than he dispensed it. To solve the problem of his money growing faster than he
could give it away, Carnegie gave all his remaining wealth to the Carnegie Corporation of New
York in 1911.
Other Carneg ie Trus ts p rosper 100 years on .
I was interested to know if other Carnegie foundations have prospered over the years, so I e-
mailed the Carnegie Corporation of New York to ask how much they were left by Carnegie
(there are conflicting reports on the amount), how much they are now worth, and how much they
dispense in charity annually? The answers are interesting but at odds with Angus Hoggs financial
world view. The New York Corporation stated that they had started with $135 million in 1911 and
this had now grown to $2.2 billion. Their donations or grants to various bodies totalled $80million
during the fiscal year 2005-2006.
Fr om z e r o fo r the Ge r man H e r o to z e r o he r o m eda l s fo r th e D un fe r m l i ne H e r o Fund .
From the above it would appear that the New York Corporation is doing rather nicely, but are they
unique. I e-mailed the German Hero Fund which has recently reformed after being dormant since
the second world-war when Hitlers Nazi regime confiscated their funds and they seemed quite
optimistic despite the fact that we started with zero. The German Hero Fund Trust Chairmans
optimism is surprisingly refreshingwhen one considers his funds were wiped out and his country
recently bombed to ruinsand is in stark contrast to the pessimism of our Trust boss Hogg who
wails that we are all doomed due to the economic time bomb ticking under the Glen.
The German Hero Fund sought help from other Hero Funds including the Dunfermline in their
resurrection from the ashes, but apart from a donation from the Swiss Fund the other Hero Funds
could not help, and the German Hero Fund had to seek help from the Carnegie Corporation of New
York to allow it to reform and continue as before. And continue it has, awarding three medals for
heroism in 2006. The Dunfermline Hero Fund Trust in this period awarded zero medals.
Tr ust has fa i l ed bu t how and w h en?
We will never be able to say with certainty what cause the dramatic fall in the Trusts fortunes but
it is possible to trace when this took place, and illustrate with some examples how the Trust has
fallenif not answer the question why they fell/failed.
Pr oper ty , t he Ga la , and th e T i f f any w indow .
Perhaps the three most graphic examples of how the Trust has failed the people of Dunfermline are
their dealings in property, the annual Childrens Gala, and the Tiffany window. I have set out these
issues in order below:
Example 1, Property
: In 1953 the Trust owned over 500 acres of land including:
The 70-acre Glen.
2 playing fields, Venturefair, 8 acres and Pitreavie, 44 acres.
3 golf courses, Pitreavie, Canmore, and Pitfirrane 120 acres.
6 bowling clubs with greens at Townhill; Baldridgeburn; Kingseat; Nethertown; Rosyth, and
Headwell.
6 Institutes were built at the same locations as the bowling greens, plus another one the
Womens in Pilmuir Street (now Johnsons Night Club).
As well as these prestigious properties the Trust also had a wide variety of properties such as the
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Pitfirrane House; Carnegie Hall; British Legion Club; Lauder Technical College (now Skibo Court),
Balleira (now Dunfermline Museum Viewfield Square); Ling House, Canmore Street; Carnegie
Centre, Pilmuir Street; Carnegie Clinic, Pilmuir Street, and Viewfield Manse (now accountants
offices Viewfield Square); to name but some.
Sec r ec y i s the no r m fo r t he T r us t w hen ques t i ons a r e ask ed .
What does the Trust own now? Good question to ask, but the Trust will not tell anyone who
asks, or at least they will not tell me. I have politely asked in connection with the accounts of2005 which show that the Trust had sold-off half of their heritable assets (buildings). The Trust
simply will not identify the individual buildings that they have sold or the price received. Instead
the accounts at page 14 simply give a sum of 450,000 representing the money received for the
sale of Investment heritable property.
The refusal of the Trust to clearly identify the nature of their transactions on their accounts is not
only breathtakingly arrogant but it appears that their actions are possibly in ignorance of, and
certainly at odds with, the terms of the original trust deed, which is part of the Royal Charter.
Tr ust s hou ld be open and t r ans pa r en t bu t a r e t he oppos ite .
Andrew Carnegie demanded absolute openness and transparency in accountancy. The terms of the
Royal Charter state that an abstract of the accounts: as audited shall be published for the
information of the public in one or more newspapers of Dunfermline and also that a full Report of
their proceedings be made and so published.This provision taken with the instruction to the
trustees by Carnegie that as it is the masses that you are to benefit, it follows you have to keep in
touch with them and must carry them with you is the very antithesis of the secretive practices of
the Trust.
The Trust may be satisfying the very minimum requirements of the law by publishing their
accounts in the terse format in which they do, but their paucity of detail is at odds with the wishes
of the founderwishes that were followed to the letter by previous trustees.
Tr ust had mor e opennes s 100 y ea r s ago than now .
Most commentators would have us believe that democracy is an ever improving process and the
rights of the citizens of Dunfermline wouldit could reasonably be expectedimprove accordingly.Wrong! When in 2006 I asked for and was refusedby Angus Hogg, Chairman of the Trustees
specific details of the sale of the properties which are only obliquely alluded to in the 2005
accounts, I asked him to reconsider his refusal and sent him copies of the accounts as published in
1918, and 1928. I did this for a good reason as these accounts contained very detailed
descriptions and values of all properties owned, leased-out, bought and sold. But what was good
enough for the citizen of Dunfermline in 1918 is a step too far for secretive trustees of the present
day. Mr Hogg refused to provide details of the 2005 property sales.
She r loc k H o lmes t y pe i nv est i ga t i on t o s ee w ha t happened to ou r p r ope r t y .
Faced with the absolute intransigence of the Trust I have resorted to searching the Registers of
Scotland to ascertain what was sold in 2005 and in other years and my findings are troubling. It is
possible, though time consuming, to establish that X was sold to Y for #000 on a certain date.
What is of more concern is the, sometimes low, price the properties were sold for. Of course there
might be a perfectly logical explanation for these knock down sales if the seller were flush with
funds, but this would appear not to be the case in this instance. I will have more to say about this
topic in later updates but would pose the question: why was it necessary for me to have to resort
to detective work to find out what was sold, to whom, and for how much?
The p r ope r ty po r t f o l i o has v an i s hed and w e a r e l e f t w i th th e r ump .
So of the 500 acres of land and numerous buildings owned by the Trust in 1953 there remain only
a few small houses and the 70-acre Glen. Andrew Carnegie did of course say that when
municipalities etc and the Trust will no doubt argue that this is what they have donehanded
over assets such as Pitreavie Playing Fields to the Council, which in the years after Carnegies
death did indeed assume responsibility for leisure and recreation of the people.
The tang led ta le o f P i t reav ie .
However if we take Pitreavie Playing Fields as an example of what has been handed on to the local
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authority it does not bode well for the people of Dunfermline in future years.
The 42-acre site of Pitreavie Playing Fields complete with stadium, pavilion etc was gifted to Fife
County Council on very specific terms designed to ensure that the Trusts charter obligation that
the facility be to the benefit of the people of Dunfermline be protected. The Trust had a right of
reversion if these terms of the gift were not met.
In September 2001 Fife Council leased the Pitreavie Playing Fields for 60-years to Vida Sports, a
company belonging to Carnegie Sport & Hospitality Ltd, part of the Murray International Group.
The site was leased for a peppercorn rent of 10,000 a year or 238 per acre per annum. In
August 2002 the Trust granted a Minute of Waiver which apparently transferred the right of
reversion to Fife Council.
Despite its long-term legal commitment, two years later Vida Sportswhich had another dozen
long term leases with similar playing fields owned by other councilssold out for 30 million to a
management buy-out financed by a subsidiary of Guernsey based venture capitalists Alchemy
Partners in 2003. The management buy-out was not successful and in 2005 Vida was put into
administration and the playing fields lease has since been assigned to Powerleague Fives Ltd in
May 2005, who in turn assigned the lease to Dunfermline Athletic FC Ltd. in September 2006,
since when the lease has been sub let to The Pars Trust.
I was concerned that what started out, and for 40-years under the Trust was a facility for the
benefit of the people of Dunfermline, is being used as a cash-cow and being sold on with alarming
regularity. It must be the case that at some stage in the future there is a possibility that the
ownership of what was once a public asset and arguably a common good asset will be lost in the
mist of time and the fog of changing stewardship. I can also envisage a company running the
playing fields pleading poverty and trying to develop a part of the facility, in much the same way
that the Trust have tried to do with the Glen.
Cal ls fo r reassurances on Pi t reav ie fa l l o n deaf ears .
I raised my concerns regarding the status of Pitreavie with the Fife Council and I also raised my
concerns with the Trust that Fife Council might be in breach of the terms of the Trusts gift which
could trigger reversion of ownership to the Trust. I was given a convoluted answer as might beexpected from Fife Councils lawyers but was also given a less than reassuring answer from
the Trusts CEO who in answer to my concerns about Pitreavie being taken out of public
ownership simply stated that she was concerned about this too, as she is not sure of where the
Trust stand in what is a very complex matter! Hardly reassuring and surely not what Carnegie had
in mind.
Get t i ng i n fo r m a t i on f r om the T r us t i s li k e w r est l i ng s mok e .
At an early stage in my involvement with the Trust I asked to sit in as an observer at their
meetings and/or have sight of the minutes of these meetings. These requests were refused by the
Trust. Angus Hogg does not hide the fact that he considers consultation with the public a nuisance.
Mr Hogg has stated on more than one occasion that the Trust have conducted their business
successfully, and in private for more than 100-years, and will continue to do so. If the former
were true then the latter might be acceptable, but when it is self-evident that the trust has failed
Carnegie and the people, they cannot expect privacy in their dealing especially since the ratepayer
is keeping them afloat.
Hard questions must be asked about the Trusts dealings (especially with regard to disposals of
property) even if the answers to the questions are the non-answers that are the stock in trade of
the Trust. The obfuscation and delay by the Trust in dealing with genuine enquiries from members
of the public must be recorder for future reference.
T ime fo r th e T r ust t o c ome c lean on p r ope r t i es .
The Trust has certainly not safeguarded the publics access to those amenities that were handed
over to the municipality (Dunfermline, Burgh, Fife District then Fife Council) in accordance with the
founders wishes. Many of the jewels in the Trusts crown appear to be remote from the ordinary
citizen of Dunfermline. Golf Courses such as Pitfirrane, which the Trust had on feu-lease, but which
now apparently belongs to the Trustees of the Golf Club; playing fields like Pitreavie and
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Venturefair and sites of bowling clubs and institutes have ownership that is less than clear. Is this
how Carnegie saw the peoples assets being stewarded? I think not and I think that it is time for
the Trust to explain their actions instead of hiding behind a set of meaningless figures in an Annual
Report which is little less than a blanket of secrecy.
Example 2 the annual childrens Gala:
The Ch i ld ren s Ga la was o f p r im e imp or t ance to Carneg ie .
The first childrens Gala was held in the Glen in 1904. It was the idea of Mrs Louise Carnegie who
paid for it. The first Chairman of the Trust, Dr John Ross spoke to the first meeting of the trustees
the following week in glowing praise of the Gala. Dr Ross said:The experience of Friday last
when all the children of the town through the kindness of Mrs Carnegie, enjoyed a holiday fraught
with unalloyed pleasure, suggests the propriety of making such a holiday an annual occurrence. It
seemed an excellent institution for creating local patriotism and generating fond associations for
the youths referred to by the Truster, who may subsequently roam in other lands.Andrew
Carnegie in 1915 writing his autobiography stated how this yearly gala day was evidence that
no public park was ever dearer to the people.
This annual event was organised, funded and celebrated by the Trust for many years after
Carnegie wrote those words. In 1952 the Trust considered the childrens Gala Day so important
that it spent almost 1300 on it (29,614 in todays terms). This was quite a sum considering that
the total annual charitable grants made for that year amounted to 1,395. So the childrens Gala
was considered to be as important as all of the other grants put together for that year, and
represented a sum that was more than 10% of the total cost of the upkeep of the Glen (12,592).
Trus t s igna ls a change in p r io r i t ies w i th t he Ga la .
In 1965, 50-years after Carnegie wrote the above words in his biography the Trust stated via the
Dunfermline Press that times were hard and they would not continue to fund the Gala over the
amount that it cost in that year (1,000). In a classical piece of revisionism to meet their own
agenda the Trust decided that the Gala was no longer the out-standing attraction to primary
school children that it used to be, and consequently the Trust would be taking a very much
diminished responsibility for its future organisation.
Forty-two years on the Gala is as popular as ever with the children, and one marvels at how out-
of-touch the trustees were in 1965. The Trust in their wisdom had decided that primary-school
children no longer enjoy the simple pleasures of marching with their flags to the Glen to enjoy a
day of play with their friends. In determining what the children of the 60s liked or otherwise, the
trustees of the day displayed breathtaking arrogance, and their judgement was patently flawed,
but are the present-day members of the Trust any more attuned to the needs of the people? When
one considers the Gala it would appear not. The Trust now has no organisational responsibility for
the ever-popular event and contributes various amounts annually but normally in the region of
2,000. The bulk of the funds now come from sponsors, how long before a McDonalds Gala.
Time to ge t back to bas ics ?
The contribution that the Trust makes to the Gala is a small one when considering what it can
afford to give to other more exclusive organisations and events. 10,000 for the Dunfermline Lawn
Tennis and Bridge Club, 27,000 towards the Carnegie Medal for Philanthropy reception at the
Scottish Parliament, etc. etc. This to my mind is contrary to the charter that governs the Trusts
activities. It was made clear in the 1903 letter, the minute of the Inaugural meeting of the Trust,
and other documentation that the first priorities for the trustees were the Glen and the Gala for the
ordinary citizen. Now the Trust have abandoned the childrens Gala and the trustees are more
likely to be found wooing the movers and shakers of the charity world than be seen in the
company of Jock Tamsons bairns in the Glen on Gala day.
Pandering to the elite was not on Carnegies radar and nor should it be on the Trusts. It is time
the Trust dispensed with their support of elite causes and got back to basics. Of course any move
by members of the public to force the Trust to stick to the original terms of the charter, which
stipulate that the Glen is the first priority, will now be faced with supplemental Royal Charter terms
of 2006, which in effect have ditched all of Andrew Carnegies clearly expressed wishes!
Example 3 the Tiffany window:
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The Tiffany window was left to the Trust by Andrew Carnegie, with instructions that it be placed in
the Dunfermline Abbey as a memorial to his parents. H.M. Commission for Ancient Monuments
however found the windowwhich was not overtly religious as was the fashionunsuitable for
placement in the Abbey and the window lay unused for some time before being installed in the
Carnegie Hall which the Trust built and opened in 1937.
The Tiffany window was in the Carnegie Hall for many years and was in the hall when in 1963 it
was gifted to the Burgh Council. In 1992 it was re-sited to form the centrepiece of the TiffanyLounge in the Carnegie Hall, and as such was widely admired.
The Tiffany Lounge is currently undergoing restoration, and the window was removed for safety
reasons. I recently made enquiries of the Fife council as to the omission of the Tiffany window from
their list of common good assets. For once the response from the council was prompt and
unambiguous and I was advised by a council lawyer, Andrew Ferguson that the window was indeed
owned by the council and was part of a heritable asset. Mr Ferguson stated with regard to the
window: The Tiffany Window will form part of the heritable asset known as Carnegie Hall as it is
part of the fabric of that asset.
I enquired where I might view the window and on 18th September 2007, Fife Councils Business
Manager, in answer to my enquiry advised me that the window was undergoing restoration and
she would check and get back to me. Then on 25th October 2007 Fife Council advised me that the
window is no t ow ned by th e Counc i l , and appears to be owned by the Trust. [emphasis added]
W e w a n t o u r w i n d o w b a ck f o r o u r n e w H Q.
The Trust in what can only be described as a piece of breathtaking arrogance and elitism are
claiming legal ownership of a part of a gift that was made over 40 years ago. The window is indeed
a unique piece of artwork, but how can it be right that for 70-years the window was placed in the
public Carnegie Hall, but now that the Trust are having a private new HQ built in the Glen they
want this exclusive artwork to adorn their building? In doing so the Trust will deprive the general
publicwho have enjoyed this artwork for 70 yearsof sight of their much loved heirloom. Would
Carnegie have approved of his elitist trustees?
To summarise I have given some examples of how the Trust has failed Carnegie and failed thepeople, the question now is what can be done about it?
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