CAS Ratemaking Seminar Non Medical Professional Liability Pricing Stephen Kantor, FCAS, MAAA
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CAS Ratemaking Seminar
Non Medical Professional Liability Pricing
Stephen Kantor, FCAS, MAAA
March 7, 2002
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 2
Data IssuesData Issues
Buried within Annual Statement Often controlled by producer Difficult to look at industry data Need specific filing information Impact from surplus lines
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 3
Typical Rating FactorsTypical Rating Factors
Step rate Area of practice Size of firm State/Territory Claims history
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 4
Initial PricingInitial Pricing
Often Shopped By Producer Has certain price in mind Based on current carrier Limited data available
Based on Competitor Look at filings Read the market
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 5
On Going PricingOn Going Pricing
Premium and Loss Experience Sparse Green Volatile
Can you combine with other programs?
Can you compare to industry data?
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 6
Two Distinct Application TypesTwo Distinct Application Types
Flat Price More complicated
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 7
Flat PricedFlat Priced One size fits all “Cash with APP” Application asks 4-5 questions which basically ask
Is this a typical risk?Any claims?
Often Association sponsored
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 8
LawyersLawyers
State/Territory Step rate Area of practice Size of Firm – number of lawyers Claims history Deductible Defense outside limit Other factors often built in to IRM
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 9
LawyersLawyers
Area of Practice
% of Practice Credit/DebitEntertainment 1- 10 0%
11-20 +5% Over 20 +10%
Real Estate 1- 5 10% 6-20 +5%
21-50 +10% Over 50 +20%
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 10
LawyersLawyers
Area of Practice
% of Practice Credit/DebitLitigation Defense 1- 25 -5%
26-50 -15% Over 50 -33%
Litigation Plaintiff 1- 25 0% 26-50 +5%
51-60 +10% 61-75 +15%
Over 75 +20%
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 11
LawyersLawyersSize of FirmSize of Firm
Number of LawyersCredit 1-5 0%
6-10 5%
11-15 10%
16-20 15%
21-25 20%
Over 25 25%
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 12
LawyersLawyersAn ExampleAn Example
Credit/Debit
Area of Practice Litigation Defense 30% -15%Litigation Plaintiff 40% +5%Real Estate 15% +5%Other 15% 0%
Size of Firm 12 Lawyers 10%Limit $1,000,000/$1,000,000 1.85Deductible $5,000 .15Claims Experience 1.15Step Factor Step 2 1.40
(Base Rate) X (1.85 - .15) X (.95) X (1.10) X (1.15) X (1.40)
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 13
Real Estate E&OReal Estate E&O
Based on Agency Revenue and Number of Licensed AgentsSome States Mandatory
Expect better experienceUsually good experience data availableNo IRM
The best realtors ask the right questionsLoss only deductible work against insurersClaims often occur when agent represents both Buyer and SellerMold is new claims issue – failure to discloseDiscussions occurring on mold exclusionStill competitive marketplace
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 14
Massage TherapistMassage Therapist
Sponsored by AMTA Insurance is automatic – part of dues One size fits all Certification required for membership Few carriers
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 15
Non Profit D&ONon Profit D&O
Based on Expense – how much $ Association takes in
If expenditures > revenue Look for positive fund balance Endowment EPLI is important
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 16
AccountantsAccountants
Revenue based Risk management drive Accounting Malpractice.com
(Mark Cheffers - the Enron expert) Competitive market Suits for fees Shared office space Engagement and disengagement letters crucial
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 17
AccountantsAccountants
Areas of practice have expanded over past 5 years Financial planning Management advisory Elder care ( Financial and Healthcare)
Consulting Has made underwriting more difficult Audits have greater exposure than bookkeeping
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 18
AccountantsAccountants
How will Enron affect the industry? Opinions vary More careful underwriting
Audits used in SEC Filings
Consulting And Auditing
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 19
Public Officials/Public EntitiesPublic Officials/Public Entities
Population of city Tax revenues/Tax base Proximity to large cities Balance between revenue and expenses Power plants/libraries/school districts Lots of EPLI Competitive market
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 20
TeachersTeachers
Rate is on Per Head Basis Completely Association driven Can cover “Failure to Educate”
Will this be the next claims black hole?
Covers extra curricular activities
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 21
Title AgentsTitle Agents
Billings/Revenue Several large Title Companies Mis-handling of Escrow Accounts - drives
many claims
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 22
Cash with AppCash with App
Shorthand Reporters Association of Court Reporters
Interior Designers Most claims either wrong fabric or the couch
doesn’t fit
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Fireman's Fund Interstate 23
Convention CancellationsConvention Cancellations
Rated on revenues expected to be raised Insurance covers the shortfall on revenues Became a big issue after 9/11