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Cardio Pulmonary interactions during CPR Pr Jean-Christophe M Richard Pôle SAMU 74 Urgence et Réanimation Centre Hospitalier Annecy Genevois

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Cardio Pulmonary interactions during CPR

Pr Jean-Christophe M Richard

Pôle SAMU 74 Urgence et Réanimation Centre Hospitalier Annecy Genevois

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CONFLICTS OF INTEREST

- Air Liquide Medical Systems (part time)

Financial support for research (Genève /Annecy/Angers)

-VYGON (personal fee for lectures)

-SHILLER

-MAQUET (NAVA)

-COVIDIEN (PAV+) (personal fee for lectures)

-DRAGER (SmartCare)

-GE (FRC)

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Circulation Ventilation

Classical interpretation of ventilation during CPR

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• ETI + curarised subjects Manual CC

generates 156mL of VT (0 to 390mL)

• ETT + cardiac arrest subjects Manual

CC generates no VT

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The median Vt per compression : 41.5 ml (33.0-62.1 ml)

which was considerably less than measured dead space

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ml

a

bc

d

e f

a. Ressort

b. Soufflet

c. Seringue

d. Prise de pression

dans le soufflet

e. Entré d’air

f. Stylet et Papier

millimétrique

f

Pressure transmitted into the

thoracic compartment

Change in lung volume: Vt and

FRC

FRC

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ml

Reduction in lung volume below FRC

FRC

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Reduction in lung volume below FRC induced by Chest

compressions

Flo

w

Paw

V

olu

me

Lung volume reduction below

FRC

FRC

Cordioli et al. J Appl

Physiol 2016

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Flow limitation at PEEP 0

PEEP 3 cmH20 PEEP 0 cmH20

Thoracic airways closure limiting inspiratory flow during Chest

compressions

Cordioli et al. J Appl

Physiol 2016

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Cordioli et al. Curent Op Crit Care (submitted)

oxygenation

CO

2 e

limin

atio

n

Impact of thoracic airway closure on ventilation and gas exchanges

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Vt expired : 319±165 ml (ICC 30:2) 341±142 ml (CCC 30:2)

Risks associated with 30:2 bag mask CPR: Gastric Inflation

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CO2 depends on ventilation and circulation

Both depend on chest compression

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Accidental observation: Periodic variation of EtCO2 during CPR

Capnogram (EtCO2 waveform) during CPR varies periodically with chest

compressions and ventilation….

CO2

Paw

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Capnograms obtained during chest compressions in OHCA

CO2

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Capnograms obtained during chest compressions in OHCA

CO2

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CO

2

Airways opening

measurements

P-P

aw

CO

2

ITP

CO

2

Intra thoracic

measurements

Thiel cadaver model with CO2 (CAVIAR lab)

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Thiel cadaver model with CO2 (CAVIAR lab)

Cordioli et al. Curent Op Crit Care (submitted)

Full Airway patency: PEEP 10 cmH2O Partial and complete airway closure: PEEP < Pclosing

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Insufflation from the

ventilator

Alveolar CO2 CO2 Wash out by

fresh gas

How to interpret capnogram during chest compressions?

Insufflation from the

ventilator

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Bench Model of CPR with additional CO2

D Luca Grieco et al. AJRCCM (Epub ahead of print)

Full Airway patency: PEEP 5 cmH2O Partial airway closure: PEEP 0 cmH2O

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Time

CO2

CO2max

CO2min

CO2

CO2maxAOI =

Airway Opening Index : AOI

= 75%

AOI = 85%

The AOI permits to characterize and quantify oscillations on capnogram that is

correlated with alveolar ventilation

AOI = 5%

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CLINICAL OBSERVATIONAL STUDY : 100 OHCA patients:

D Luca Grieco et al. AJRCCM (Epub ahead of print)

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Maximal EtCO2 value is the best surrogate of alveolar CO2

0

25

50

75

100

Patients

CO

2 (

mm

Hg

)

OHCA

N=90 Patients

CLINICAL OBSERVATIONAL STUDY : 100 OHCA patients:

D Luca Grieco et al. AJRCCM (Epub ahead of print)

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Thiel cadaver model with CO2 (CAVIAR lab)

D Luca Grieco et al. AJRCCM (Epub ahead of print)

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CLINICAL OBSERVATIONAL STUDY : 100 OHCA

patients:

Clinical implications:

D Luca Grieco, et al. AJRCCM (Epub ahead of print)

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SU

RV

IVA

L

TIME

Brain perfusion guided therapy

4 7 10

Airway Closure? guided

therapy

ETCO2 guided therapy

Annecy CPR Round Table :

Two phase time sensitive model to OHCA

High Quality CPR

Early Defibrillation

Cardiac Pump

Goal Directed Optimization

Cardiac and Thoracic Pump

Consider ECMO

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• Ventilation during CPR should be revisited to be adapted to this specific context

• Thoracic airways closure may impair oxygenation and CO2 elimination during CPR.

• Only maximal value of exhaled CO2 during CPR reflect alveolar CO2

• Capnogram oscillations reflect thoracic airways patency and ventilation quality during

CPR

• EtCO2 monitoring during CPR is highly recommended but not adapted to CPR