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Washington, D.C. 20505 19 December 2019 Mr. John Greenewald, Jr. 27305 W. Live Oak Road Suite #1203 Castaic, CA 91384 Reference: EOM-2019-00287 Dear Mr. Greenewald: This is a final response to your correspondence of 24 January 2019, submitted on behalf of The Black Vault, requesting an Executive Order 13526 mandatory declassification review of the following: Deleted (Member of Soviet Committee the USSR Established to Investigate Unusual ... Document Number (FOIA)IESDN (CREST): 0000015270 We have completed a thorough search of our records and determined that the document may be released in sanitized form. We have deleted material that must remain classified on the basis of Section 3.3(h)(2) of the Order. Enclosed is a copy showing our deletions and citing our exemption. As the CIA Information and Privacy Coordinator, I am the CIA offical responsible for this detemination. You have the right to appeal this response to the Agency Release Panel in my care, within 90 dasys fore the date of this letter. Should you choose to do this, plese include the basis of your appeal. To contact CIA directly or to appeal the CIA's response to the Agency Release Panel: Central Intelligence Agency Washington, DC 20505 Information and Privacy Coordinator (703) 613-3007 (Fax) (703) 613-1287 - CIA FOIA Public Liaison / FOIA Hotline To contact the Office of Government Information Services (OGIS) for mediation or with questions: Office of Government Information Services National Archives and Records Administration 8601 Adelphi Road - OGIS College Park, MD 20740-600 I (202) 741-5770 (877) 864-6448 (202) 741-5769 (Fax) [email protected] Please note, contacting CIA's FOIA Public Liaison or OGIS does not affect your right to pursue an administrative appeal. Mark Lilly Information and Privacy Coordinator Enclosure

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Washington DC 20505

19 December 2019

Mr John Greenewald Jr 27305 W Live Oak Road Suite 1203 Castaic CA 91384

Reference EOM-2019-00287

Dear Mr Greenewald

This is a final response to your correspondence of 24 January 2019 submitted on behalf of The Black Vault requesting an Executive Order 13526 mandatory declassification review of the following

Deleted (Member ofSoviet Committee the USSR Established to Investigate Unusual Document Number (FOIA)IESDN (CREST) 0000015270

We have completed a thorough search of our records and determined that the document may be released in sanitized form We have deleted material that must remain classified on the basis of Section 33(h)(2) of the Order Enclosed is a copy showing our deletions and citing our exemption

As the CIA Information and Privacy Coordinator I am the CIA offical responsible for this detemination You have the right to appeal this response to the Agency Release Panel in my care within 90 dasys fore the date of this letter Should you choose to do this plese include the basis of your appeal

To contact CIA directly or to appeal the CIAs response to the Agency Release Panel

Central Intelligence Agency Washington DC 20505 Information and Privacy Coordinator (703) 613-3007 (Fax) (703) 613-1287 - CIA FOIA Public Liaison FOIA Hotline

To contact the Office of Government Information Services (OGIS) for mediation or with questions Office of Government Information Services National Archives and Records Administration 8601 Adelphi Road - OGIS College Park MD 20740-600 I (202) 741-5770 (877) 864-6448 (202) 741-5769 (Fax) ogisnaragov

Please note contacting CIAs FOIA Public Liaison or OGIS does not affect your right to pursue an administrative appeal

~~ Mark Lilly Information and Privacy Coordinator

Enclosure

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1 At t~e Conference OD the Origins or Lite in Yerevan Armenia ~SR 6-6 September 1971 N S ~ardashev Institute for Sp~c~ Rcsearch Moscow

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re~d an intereatins but highly opeculative paper he had prepared on general relBtivity and the possibility of a bo~ collap3inc into a blacl~ hole in spaee Ilis co-author was the internationolly r8llOUS i theoreticamp phySicist Andrei D Sarharav KardatJhev 1J very much like his superior and fonner teacher at the Institute I S Shklovskiy in

middot1 his approach to ocientiC1c problems lie is not afraid to speculate in his effort to rind a solution

2 The Kardll3hev-Sakharov paper concerned the authors I study 01 hat hnppens when a charsed mass or bodv collapses in space Kordtulhev stoteci that if it ~~rc not chert-ed the mass would Just collapse past the point of Rrovitational singularity and be gone forever In other words the mass would elose in on itself and have no more eontoct vith the outside world ~~e Soviets speculated on hat would happen if the moss were charged 1hey stated that then the mass vould be able to bounce It would collapse but bounce back out However the mass vill come back into a different part ot space time

3 L ISakharov wos 33(h)(2) mostly Interestea~~is charced mass phenomenon study because it inshydicates that the structure of space may be much more complicated thampl is prellently thollPht Kardashev vas intercsted in the study from the vievpoint or what implications it has for astro h basic physics of the phcnomenon is correct

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) In ~rcr1lthe scientific level of IUOSt of the SOvietCADerl n ~iS Conference 0111$ not very higb One little known Soviet L _ _ II Igave a very naive paper on the dctcctability 0 p nnets t~other Soviet vho vas a member of a committee the USSR has cstnbli~hed to investigate unusual phenomena in other words flying ~auccrs Gave a Beriow toJk vh1ch was aetuolly very humorous Hi approach vas IO-Iell of course we knOll there isnt onything to thb allescd phenomeshynon (flying stlucers) but on the other hand_o Durina this tolk Shklovsldy MU other Goviets Joked and laughed and obviouslY did (0

take the speaJtprs remarks seriously Shklovskiy remarked later te l l -------__~I that the flying saucer committee conGists ot many polr- shy

ticians theorists historians and similar type people It hIlS littlc if any scientific talent

6 Shklovskiy gave a eeneral entertaining tnlk on warne intereting but uimportant subject Vitaliy r G1nzburcs one of the leadinr astronolrers in the ursn al30 B8ve II taJk on the bllSis of physicl theory that is tll~ ilentifieation fUld compArison of fundHmcntal n3sUJn~t1ons 1n phrl1cs Gin7burr has 8 first rate lllind and is sounder in hill Itsics knoll~dce ~lan ~hkJoV9Kiy Gin1lJllr thinks ralist1cally ~hlch lll ~ nIOiC ~~I L an~Iol~t about the Conference ohe ~ovie I

wa Il-Sked whether t-Ile Conference vas vorthvhile in that it as mostly devoteltl to theoreti cal subJects very remote from tll11g1ble pound0315

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released by the US Government amp Military

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This document is made available through the declassification efforts and research of John Greenewald Jr creator of

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C06820416 Approved for Release 20191125 C06820416

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Intelligence Information Report

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DIIfCTOIATI Of nuiOLHa

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SUBJECT Speculative Paper by N Kardaabev and DATE DISTbullbull lD Apr 72 A Sakharav on Charged Mass 1n Cpa-e at Conterenee on OriCin3 ot Life NO AGES 2 Armenia 6-6 September 1971Lav Scientific Level 01 Other Soviet Pnpers

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DATE OF INFO I 33(h)(2) ~----~====~--------~

PLACE amp DATE CQ 8Y SOURCE 1===~_______33(h)(2) ___________-ffil u VNtVALUATfO INroRMATION

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1 At t~e Conference OD the Origins or Lite in Yerevan Armenia ~SR 6-6 September 1971 N S ~ardashev Institute for Sp~c~ Rcsearch Moscow

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re~d an intereatins but highly opeculative paper he had prepared on general relBtivity and the possibility of a bo~ collap3inc into a blacl~ hole in spaee Ilis co-author was the internationolly r8llOUS i theoreticamp phySicist Andrei D Sarharav KardatJhev 1J very much like his superior and fonner teacher at the Institute I S Shklovskiy in

middot1 his approach to ocientiC1c problems lie is not afraid to speculate in his effort to rind a solution

2 The Kardll3hev-Sakharov paper concerned the authors I study 01 hat hnppens when a charsed mass or bodv collapses in space Kordtulhev stoteci that if it ~~rc not chert-ed the mass would Just collapse past the point of Rrovitational singularity and be gone forever In other words the mass would elose in on itself and have no more eontoct vith the outside world ~~e Soviets speculated on hat would happen if the moss were charged 1hey stated that then the mass vould be able to bounce It would collapse but bounce back out However the mass vill come back into a different part ot space time

3 L ISakharov wos 33(h)(2) mostly Interestea~~is charced mass phenomenon study because it inshydicates that the structure of space may be much more complicated thampl is prellently thollPht Kardashev vas intercsted in the study from the vievpoint or what implications it has for astro h basic physics of the phcnomenon is correct

aics rovidecl the the 33(h)(2)

authors speculation was a little fantastic and they hod tokcn off in Ii rather wild wof Howcver I Itheir paper vas grounded in 3 ~(h)(2) rood and sound physi eo

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) In ~rcr1lthe scientific level of IUOSt of the SOvietCADerl n ~iS Conference 0111$ not very higb One little known Soviet L _ _ II Igave a very naive paper on the dctcctability 0 p nnets t~other Soviet vho vas a member of a committee the USSR has cstnbli~hed to investigate unusual phenomena in other words flying ~auccrs Gave a Beriow toJk vh1ch was aetuolly very humorous Hi approach vas IO-Iell of course we knOll there isnt onything to thb allescd phenomeshynon (flying stlucers) but on the other hand_o Durina this tolk Shklovsldy MU other Goviets Joked and laughed and obviouslY did (0

take the speaJtprs remarks seriously Shklovskiy remarked later te l l -------__~I that the flying saucer committee conGists ot many polr- shy

ticians theorists historians and similar type people It hIlS littlc if any scientific talent

6 Shklovskiy gave a eeneral entertaining tnlk on warne intereting but uimportant subject Vitaliy r G1nzburcs one of the leadinr astronolrers in the ursn al30 B8ve II taJk on the bllSis of physicl theory that is tll~ ilentifieation fUld compArison of fundHmcntal n3sUJn~t1ons 1n phrl1cs Gin7burr has 8 first rate lllind and is sounder in hill Itsics knoll~dce ~lan ~hkJoV9Kiy Gin1lJllr thinks ralist1cally ~hlch lll ~ nIOiC ~~I L an~Iol~t about the Conference ohe ~ovie I

wa Il-Sked whether t-Ile Conference vas vorthvhile in that it as mostly devoteltl to theoreti cal subJects very remote from tll11g1ble pound0315

0i r zhure sai d Hell if it helps to builu lip support for the ~~oviet TpeorcherG to Get n(V astronomical equipment then certainl] the COIoshyf l - nee mampci sense

- end shy

33(h)(2)

33(h)(2)

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33(h)(2)

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The Black VaultThe Black Vault is the largest online Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)document clearinghouse in the world The research efforts here areresponsible for the declassification of hundreds of thousands of pages

released by the US Government amp Military

Discover the Truth at httpwwwtheblackvaultcom

This document is made available through the declassification efforts and research of John Greenewald Jr creator of

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) In ~rcr1lthe scientific level of IUOSt of the SOvietCADerl n ~iS Conference 0111$ not very higb One little known Soviet L _ _ II Igave a very naive paper on the dctcctability 0 p nnets t~other Soviet vho vas a member of a committee the USSR has cstnbli~hed to investigate unusual phenomena in other words flying ~auccrs Gave a Beriow toJk vh1ch was aetuolly very humorous Hi approach vas IO-Iell of course we knOll there isnt onything to thb allescd phenomeshynon (flying stlucers) but on the other hand_o Durina this tolk Shklovsldy MU other Goviets Joked and laughed and obviouslY did (0

take the speaJtprs remarks seriously Shklovskiy remarked later te l l -------__~I that the flying saucer committee conGists ot many polr- shy

ticians theorists historians and similar type people It hIlS littlc if any scientific talent

6 Shklovskiy gave a eeneral entertaining tnlk on warne intereting but uimportant subject Vitaliy r G1nzburcs one of the leadinr astronolrers in the ursn al30 B8ve II taJk on the bllSis of physicl theory that is tll~ ilentifieation fUld compArison of fundHmcntal n3sUJn~t1ons 1n phrl1cs Gin7burr has 8 first rate lllind and is sounder in hill Itsics knoll~dce ~lan ~hkJoV9Kiy Gin1lJllr thinks ralist1cally ~hlch lll ~ nIOiC ~~I L an~Iol~t about the Conference ohe ~ovie I

wa Il-Sked whether t-Ile Conference vas vorthvhile in that it as mostly devoteltl to theoreti cal subJects very remote from tll11g1ble pound0315

0i r zhure sai d Hell if it helps to builu lip support for the ~~oviet TpeorcherG to Get n(V astronomical equipment then certainl] the COIoshyf l - nee mampci sense

- end shy

33(h)(2)

33(h)(2)

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The Black VaultThe Black Vault is the largest online Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)document clearinghouse in the world The research efforts here areresponsible for the declassification of hundreds of thousands of pages

released by the US Government amp Military

Discover the Truth at httpwwwtheblackvaultcom

This document is made available through the declassification efforts and research of John Greenewald Jr creator of

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The Black VaultThe Black Vault is the largest online Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)document clearinghouse in the world The research efforts here areresponsible for the declassification of hundreds of thousands of pages

released by the US Government amp Military

Discover the Truth at httpwwwtheblackvaultcom

This document is made available through the declassification efforts and research of John Greenewald Jr creator of