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Win-Loss: A Closed-Loop System for Continuous Innovation
Boston Product Management AssociationSCIP Boston
Ken SchwarzMarketing DirectorProgress Software
November 15, 2012
© 2012 Ken Schwarz. All rights reserved.2
Getting StartedSetting up a Win-loss Program
1 of you50 sales reps
500 deals won or lost
Tonight’s Agenda:
• How can you do it all?
• How do you keep it from becominga colossal waste of time?
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Win-lossA Product Management/Marketing Perspective
Pricing
Buy, Build or Partner
BusinessPlan
Product Profitability
Win/Loss Analysis
Distinctive Competence
Market Problems
MarketingPlan
Customer Acquisition
Customer Retention
Program Effectiveness
BuyingProcess
Buyer Personas
UserPersonas
Positioning
Product Portfolio
Market Definition
Distribution Strategy
InnovationCompetitive Landscape
Technology Assessment
Lead Generation
Thought Leadership
Referrals & References
LaunchPlan
UseScenarios
Requirements
Status Dashboard
Product Roadmap
Presentations & Demos
EventSupport
“Special”Calls
ChannelSupport
Channel Training
SalesProcess
Collateral
SalesTools
BusinessMarket ProgramsPlanningStrategy SupportReadiness
Stra
tegi
c Tactical
BusinessMarket ProgramsPlanningStrategy SupportReadiness
“Pragmatic Marketing Framework”© 1993-2012 Pragmatic Marketing, Inc. All rights reserved
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Win-lossA Product Management/Marketing Perspective
Pricing
Buy, Build or Partner
BusinessPlan
Product Profitability
Win/Loss Analysis
Distinctive Competence
Market Problems
MarketingPlan
Customer Acquisition
Customer Retention
Program Effectiveness
BuyingProcess
Buyer Personas
UserPersonas
Positioning
Product Portfolio
Market Definition
Distribution Strategy
InnovationCompetitive Landscape
Technology Assessment
Lead Generation
Thought Leadership
Referrals & References
LaunchPlan
UseScenarios
Requirements
Status Dashboard
Product Roadmap
Presentations & Demos
EventSupport
“Special”Calls
ChannelSupport
Channel Training
SalesProcess
Collateral
SalesTools
BusinessMarket ProgramsPlanningStrategy SupportReadiness
Stra
tegi
c Tactical
BusinessMarket ProgramsPlanningStrategy SupportReadiness
“Pragmatic Marketing Framework”© 1993-2012 Pragmatic Marketing, Inc. All rights reserved
© 2012 Ken Schwarz. All rights reserved.5
Getting StartedSetting up a Win-loss Program
Don’t just ask the field
They’re too busyThey seldom know why they lost
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Getting StartedBlind and Anonymous Customer Interviews
Why blind & anonymous interviews?• Most objective source of intelligence• Customers & sales reps are more likely to
cooperate
Hire a consultant to call customers for you• Only ethical way to make blind calls• Only practical way to call many customers
Interview a representative sample• 10 starts to yield statistical significance• Even a few yield fascinating anecdotes• Biggest challenge was getting contacts to call
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Getting StartedBlind and Anonymous Customer Interviews
Reading a blind interview transcript is like being a fly on the wall.
Use high-level interviewer who understands market and decision-making process.
Executives won’t take canned/scripted calls.
Our interviewer conducted calls using a standard method:
1. Discover or confirm those criteria that were important and helpful to making a decision.
2. Weight/prioritize the criteria.
3. Rate vendors for the criteria.
4. Ask why they rated vendors as they did.
Executive Summary
Score Summary
Verbatim transcript
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Getting StartedInternal Win-loss Field Debriefs
Issues Questions
General background
How did you learn of the opportunity? Value proposition used? Partners used? Corporate executives used?
Competitors’ tactics
What did they do? How did they respond to your competitive tactics?
Your strategy What strengths did you emphasize and how did you show them? What worked or didn’t work?
Recommendations What should other field teams know? What should corporate do to support you better?
ALSO, do field debriefs to find out
what happened from the sales teams.
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Getting StartedInternal Win-loss Field Debriefs
Field Debrief best practices:• Invite sales team, product management, product marketing,
industry marketing, etc.• Record call. Make a transcript for later reference and share with
those who couldn’t come.• Use customer win-loss interviewer – helps you scale and builds
trust with field.
No substitute for customer interview, but has many benefits:
100% response rate
Immediate access
Success story fodder
Creates credibility with field
Creates buy-in
Get customer contacts
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Getting InsightWin-loss Analytics: Introducing “Plumbersoft”
“A leading pure-play provider of middleware, helping large organizations create new business applications by leveraging data and functionality trapped in their legacy environment…”
Founded 2001
Roughly $80m in revenue
Competitors: IBM, Oracle, TIBCO, Software AG, Progress, Ant Hill, etc.
You are entering a dimension of imagination…
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Getting InsightWin-loss Analytics – “Wizard Chart”
Reasons you Lose
Impact on the
customers’ decision
High
LowUnfavorable Customer Opinion Favorable Customer Opinion
Reasons you win
Criteria in theupper right cornerare the key reasonsyou win over competitors.
Criteria in the upper left corner are the key reasons you lose to competitors.
Note: Wizard Chart is protected by U.S. Patent 5,734,890, Richard Case and PSP Enterprises
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Getting InsightWin-loss Analytics – Plumbersoft
Reasons you Lose
Impact on the
customers’ decision
High
LowUnfavorable Customer Opinion Favorable Customer Opinion
22 Wins31 Losses Product Line Integration
Data Analysis
AdaptersScalability
Existing Skillset
Proof Of Concept
Product Line IntegrationVision
Vendor ViabilityOpenness
Adapters
Product Line Breadth
Scalability
Vision
References
Price
Product Line Breadth
Ease of Use
Product Line Integration
Simulation
Proof of Concept
Customer Engagement
ReferencesProduct Line Breadth
Customer EngagementPrice
Reasons you win
< 80%
80%-84%
85%-89%
Losses Wins
90%-94%
95%-98%
99% and up
Fill Color is Statistical
Confidence Level
Ease of Use
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Getting InsightWin-loss Analytics – Customer Engagement
Reasons you Lose
Impact on the
customers’ decision
High
LowUnfavorable Customer Opinion Favorable Customer Opinion
22 Wins31 Losses Product Line Integration
Data Analysis
AdaptersScalability
Existing Skillset
Proof Of Concept
Product Line IntegrationVision
Vendor ViabilityOpenness
Adapters
Product Line Breadth
Scalability
Vision
References
Price
Product Line Breadth
Ease of Use
Product Line Integration
Simulation
Proof of Concept
Customer Engagement
ReferencesProduct Line Breadth
Customer EngagementPrice
Reasons you win
< 80%
80%-84%
85%-89%
Losses Wins
90%-94%
95%-98%
99% and up
Fill Color is Statistical
Confidence Level
Ease of Use
“Customer Engagement” – Typically tops the list• Listening and understanding is most important• Critical that demos empower, not bewilder the audience• Prove your support and responsiveness
Here, neither side “owns” this issue – It’s a tactical, not a strategic advantage
Voice of the Customer:
“Plumbersoft had people who were justice and public safety specialists, who were actually assigned to the project and
they stated that right from the get go. The depth of knowledge in the subject area was critically important to us.
We were very impressed and their technical people are good too. And they were nice. They weren’t arrogant. They
worked very closely with the team and you could see they would work as a team.”
Plumbersoft Win over Oracle at a law enforcement agency for $34M
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Getting InsightWin-loss Analytics – Product Line Breadth
Reasons you Lose
Impact on the
customers’ decision
High
LowUnfavorable Customer Opinion Favorable Customer Opinion
22 Wins31 Losses Product Line Integration
Data Analysis
AdaptersScalability
Existing Skillset
Proof Of Concept
Product Line IntegrationVision
Vendor ViabilityOpenness
Adapters
Product Line Breadth
Scalability
Vision
References
Price
Product Line Breadth
Ease of Use
Product Line Integration
Simulation
Proof of Concept
Customer Engagement
ReferencesProduct Line Breadth
Customer EngagementPrice
Reasons you win
< 80%
80%-84%
85%-89%
Losses Wins
90%-94%
95%-98%
99% and up
Fill Color is Statistical
Confidence Level
Ease of Use
Product Line Breadth is a strategic weakness for Plumbersoft.
Plumbersoft, a pure-play, can’t compete with IBM or Oracle in terms of breadth. It’s winning in this area when competing against smaller pure-plays. It’s losing sometimes against arch rival Ant Hill – PM needs to fill a hole in the lineup!
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Getting InsightWin-loss Analytics – Simulation
Reasons you Lose
Impact on the
customers’ decision
High
LowUnfavorable Customer Opinion Favorable Customer Opinion
22 Wins31 Losses Product Line Integration
Data Analysis
AdaptersScalability
Existing Skillset
Proof Of Concept
Product Line IntegrationVision
Vendor ViabilityOpenness
Adapters
Product Line Breadth
Scalability
Vision
References
Price
Product Line Breadth
Ease of Use
Product Line Integration
Simulation
Proof of Concept
Customer Engagement
ReferencesProduct Line Breadth
Customer EngagementPrice
Reasons you win
< 80%
80%-84%
85%-89%
Losses Wins
90%-94%
95%-98%
99% and up
Fill Color is Statistical
Confidence Level
Ease of Use
What can we do now? PUSH YOUR STRENGTHS, PLUMBERSOFT!
Simulation – A Strategic Advantage – Never lose with this one!• Do you market this front and center? You should!
• Does your sales process get the issue into the POC? It should!
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Getting InsightWin-loss Analytics – Proof of Concept
Reasons you Lose
Impact on the
customers’ decision
High
LowUnfavorable Customer Opinion Favorable Customer Opinion
22 Wins31 Losses Product Line Integration
Data Analysis
AdaptersScalability
Existing Skillset
Proof Of Concept
Product Line IntegrationVision
Vendor ViabilityOpenness
Adapters
Product Line Breadth
Scalability
Vision
References
Price
Product Line Breadth
Ease of Use
Product Line Integration
Simulation
Proof of Concept
Customer Engagement
ReferencesProduct Line Breadth
Customer EngagementPrice
Reasons you win
< 80%
80%-84%
85%-89%
Losses Wins
90%-94%
95%-98%
99% and up
Fill Color is Statistical
Confidence Level
Ease of Use
PoC – The manifestation of product in the customer engagement.• How much of your R&D is directed at PoC-visible functionality?• Is your field really trained and organized to win them?
Benchmark yourself against the toughest competitor
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Getting InsightWin-loss Analytics – Vendor Viability
Reasons you Lose
Impact on the
customers’ decision
High
LowUnfavorable Customer Opinion Favorable Customer Opinion
22 Wins31 Losses Product Line Integration
Data Analysis
AdaptersScalability
Existing Skillset
Proof Of Concept
Product Line IntegrationVision
Vendor ViabilityOpenness
Adapters
Product Line Breadth
Scalability
Vision
References
Price
Product Line Breadth
Ease of Use
Product Line Integration
Simulation
Proof of Concept
Customer Engagement
ReferencesProduct Line Breadth
Customer EngagementPrice
Reasons you win
< 80%
80%-84%
85%-89%
Losses Wins
90%-94%
95%-98%
99% and up
Fill Color is Statistical
Confidence Level
Ease of Use
For Plumbersoft, a strategic weakness. An issue to be COUNTERED, not won. Customer References and Corporate Marketing (AR/PR) are critical.
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Getting InsightWin-loss Analytics – Customer References
Reasons you Lose
Impact on the
customers’ decision
High
LowUnfavorable Customer Opinion Favorable Customer Opinion
22 Wins31 Losses Product Line Integration
Data Analysis
AdaptersScalability
Existing Skillset
Proof Of Concept
Product Line IntegrationVision
Vendor ViabilityOpenness
Adapters
Product Line Breadth
Scalability
Vision
References
Price
Product Line Breadth
Ease of Use
Product Line Integration
Simulation
Proof of Concept
Customer Engagement
ReferencesProduct Line Breadth
Customer EngagementPrice
Reasons you win
< 80%
80%-84%
85%-89%
Losses Wins
90%-94%
95%-98%
99% and up
Fill Color is Statistical
Confidence Level
Ease of Use
M“The project team went but the
feedback I got on that was that on Plumbersoft; they came back
with doubts.”
Plumbersoft Win over Ant Hill and IBM at a state government
department for $4M
D“They [Plumbersoft] actually had
some references that we talked to had a lot of problems.”
Plumbersoft Loss at an Airline
C“Plumbersoft gave better
testimonies as references. Their reference sites were excellent. It
gave us a lot of confidence.”
Plumbersoft Win over IBM at a bank for $5.5M in UK
Plumbersoft needs to create or strengthen its Customer Reference program Doing so should turn this from a reason for losing to a reason for winning. Weak references are endangering deals.
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Getting InsightWin-loss Analytics – Price
Reasons you Lose
Impact on the
customers’ decision
High
LowUnfavorable Customer Opinion Favorable Customer Opinion
22 Wins31 Losses Product Line Integration
Data Analysis
AdaptersScalability
Existing Skillset
Proof Of Concept
Product Line IntegrationVision
Vendor ViabilityOpenness
Adapters
Product Line Breadth
Scalability
Vision
References
Price
Product Line Breadth
Ease of Use
Product Line Integration
Simulation
Proof of Concept
Customer Engagement
ReferencesProduct Line Breadth
Customer EngagementPrice
Reasons you win
< 80%
80%-84%
85%-89%
Losses Wins
90%-94%
95%-98%
99% and up
Fill Color is Statistical
Confidence Level
Ease of Use
What about price?
When all else is equal, price becomes the ONLY issue. Plumbersoft has ample means to build a sale around issues other than price. Inconsistent performance across field can indicate a field training issue.
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From Insight to ActionSummary
Issues Examples Recommendations
Strategic Strength
Simulation Find segments who care and market to these people. Build thought leadership and brand around this.
Strategic Weakness
Product line breadth, Vendor viability
Focus on segments that care more about strengths; close capability gaps
Tactical Weakness
Customer References Create or strengthen program
Tactical Parity Customer Engagement Look to transcripts for best practices, and train field with examples of what works.
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ActionWin-loss and Competitive Sales Tools
Use your win-loss decision criteria to guide the field.
Show field how to control buyer’s agenda with strengths (win-factors)
Help field counter weaknesses (loss factors) well enough to prevent defeat
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ActionGetting Buy-In
Executive Sponsor• Who has the money?• Who has a broad, cross-functional
view?
Sales Leadership• Ask for air-cover (letter to the field)• Expect little else
Product Management and Marketing• Invite to field debriefs• Regularly review win-loss insights
face-to-face• Win-loss quotes are great for sales
training
CEO
Engineering
Product Management
Marketing
Product Marketing
Sales
Field Enablement
Watch out for“Not Invented Here”
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Summary
Plan and resource win-loss as on-going program• Become known in your company as the champion of win-loss• Find a sponsor willing to pay and interested in all facets of competition:
product, marketing, field effectiveness.
Interview customers and the field• Blind, anonymous customer interviews give you unique, objective
intelligence• Field interviews will enhance insight, win confidence, and get the customer
contacts needed for customer interviews
Invite others to participate – make this a cultural change• Invite functional executives to field interviews to broaden culture of
continuous learning enhance program visibility• Involve product management and marketing in analysis and preparation for
executive presentation – prevent “not invented here”• Present findings as high as you can. The CEO should be interested in what
you discover.
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ActionWin-Loss for Continuous Innovation
Landscape Analysis
Competitive Positioning
Sales Tools
Field Training & Support
Field Debriefs
Win-loss
Strategy Planning
Tactical Support
Feedback
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Panel Q & A
Ken Schwarz
Progress Software
Marketing Director
Richard Case
PSP EnterprisesWin-loss
Consultant
Eric Kuhnen
Focal PartnersBattlecard Consultant