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OK guys time to fight ..Whats your take ? Our country is going to civil unrest ..(bomb blasts

everywhere, marathi regionalism ..Raj spilling poison,Marathis killing UPites and Biharis etc etc) As

Alexander said in the other thread, we should go and vote in the next LS elections the best

candidate..Now which party will develop our nation more ?

BJP or Congress ?

My take is BJP ..They are not 100% good but far far better than Congress...

We can see in their regime , even they were not single largest party they had done what Congress

hadnt done in 45 years....Lets see their postives and negatives (Source : Wiki):

POSITIVES :

1. The new Government carried out an electoral promise with the 5nuclear testsatPokhran, in

Rajasthanin 1998, which gave India a weaponised nuclear capacity.

2. Opening the skies to commercial airlines

3. The government especially catered to the risinginformation technologyindustry

4. lowered taxes for middle-class Indians and businesses

5. Vajpayee took a personal interest in theGolden Quadrilateralproject, a road system which

aimed at linking the four corners of the nation with heavy, industrial roads --> MOREINFRASTRUCTURE, MORE JOBS better INDIA

6. They were also thinking of linking rivers but by the time they act, govt was OUT

NEGATIVES :

1. Totally flopped on Kargil (524 Indian soldiers died )

2. KANDHAR HIJACK CASE ---> External Affairs Minister,Jaswant Singh, personally escorted threeterrorists to Kandahar in return for the hostages on board a hijacked aircraft. This was shown on

discovery full documentary that if Vajapyee had sent Amritsar Police to aircraft, these three

terrorist would still be in Indian Jail

3. Unable to prevent or abort Akshardham, Raghunath Mandir, the Parliament and Red Fort

attacks.Afzal Guru, convicted in the Parliament House attack case, had been arrested and let off

two months before the incident took place

4. Tehelka sting operation caught the BJP president,Bangaru Laxman, accepting Rs 1lakhin cash

from journalists pretending to be defence dealers
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Some of the professed goals of the BJP are:

1. The Repeal of Article 370 of the Constitution, which prevents non-Kashmiris, includingHindus who have fled the area due to increasing terrorism, from owning property in the

state ofJammu and Kashmir.

2. The Promulgation of aUniform Common Civil Code, which create only one personal andcivil law code for Hindus, Muslims and Christians, who enjoy the privilege of having law

codes tailored to their religious culture over personal and family matters. In the minds of

BJP supporters, this system creates a sense of division in the country between religious

communities.

3. A Ban on Cow Slaughter, to honor the Hindu tradition of deemingcows and most cattle assacred, and prohibiting the consumption of beef and pork.

4. The Ban on Forcible Religious Conversions5. The Construction of theRam Janmabhoomitemple inAyodhya.6. To achieve the full territorial and political integration ofJammuandKashmirwith India.

Presently over 40% of the territory is under the control ofPakistanandChina.

UNIFORM CIVIL CODE I fully agree ..Why there should be any discrimination between Indians ?

BJP has enacted POTA----> terrorism major control

Golden Quadrilateral, Nuclear test etc etc..These can only really develop our nation...Congress has

removed it and now u can see whats happening in our country..BLASTS everywhere ...

We can see BJP ruled states like Gujarat, HP etc are doing much more good than Congress rules

states...

SO IMO BJP is far far better than Congress at any time.. What do u guys say ?

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29-10-2008, 09:01 PM #2(permalink)

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

Quote:

UNIFORM CIVIL CODE I fully agree ..Why there should be any

discrimination between Indians ?

BJP has enacted POTA----> terrorism major control

Golden Quadrilateral, Nuclear test etc etc..These can only reallydevelop our nation...Congress has removed it and now u can see

whats happening in our country..BLASTS everywhere ...

We can see BJP ruled states like Gujarat, HP etc are doing much

more good than Congress rules states...

SO IMO BJP is far far better than Congress at any time.. What do u

guys say ?

+1... Now India is being ruled by a bunch of worthless people... WTF,

we are having almost daily dosage of bombs and nobody cares about

it... I know that there are corrupt people in both BJP and Cong (as a

matter of fact, all parties), but BJP is little better (read cleaner) than

others IMO... However for the time being, India needs POTA+Modi to

cleanup things....

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29-10-2008, 09:03 PM #3(permalink)

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^^Thanks Swatty..ur 100% correct..Lets see when Narendra bhai will

become PM

w8ing for other digitians opinions....
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29-10-2008, 09:09 PM #4(permalink)

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yah right BJP is good. Have u read the news lately. BJP is directly or

indirectly linked with the culprits accused in the Malegoan blasts. The

whole Godhra fiasco, Babri Masjid demolition. All BJP.

Even as the opposition, they suck. They vetoed the Nuke deal even

though they themselves initiated it. Just for petty politics.

Though the Congress also isnt much better, compared with the BJP

they are tolerable.

But I do agree with Narendra Modi being a good chief minister. He is

like a CEO who is running Gujarat efficiently even though he again was

involved in the whole Godhra disaster.

Frankly all political parties in India are bad... the question is who is less

worse compared to the other.

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@sumit,

Hahaha.... Okay... But, it all depends on us (voters/citizens) too....

Things will not magically improve when a certain party comes into

power... We are too much adjusted to corruption, sh!tty politics etc to

such an extent that we think they are a part of the system.... We have

to wake up.... I am not saying to go and kill people in Robin Hood style,

things can start at grass root level - like, for example, sticking to traffic

rule (have you driven in Bangalore )... Ha! This feels like a film story

which will flop for sure (Yuva, anyone?)...

@anispace,

I am not interested in starting a flamewar here... But, you may want to

check outthis... One has to think about/respect the other side of thestory as well

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29-10-2008, 09:33 PM #6(permalink)

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@ Anispace ..everybody has their opinions thats y I started this

thread..Also please vote in polling button....

@swatty..ur rite..that things will not change in one day...like somebody

is throwing garbage @ road..if u see..u shud make them

understand..that plz throw in dustbin..not road ..but the work of govt is

to make sure there is proper garbage collection system and those ppl

come on time

Malegaon blasts --> Just wait for some more time..to see what is the

truth ...Its still not very clear
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Godhra Fiasco--do u know who incited it first ? I also believe Narendra

was wrong..in revenging all that..cuz fight is not a solution..Peace

is..but when one side sings Peace Peace and other has already started

war..then ????

Babri Masjid -- I really feel this is useless issue..making ram Mandir or

Babri Masjid there wouldnt solve the problems of a common man...so

better to leave this past

now coming to point ---> Congress govt is so nikammi(ineffecient) govt

that blasts had happened in each major city of India and still that MF S

Pa*il is saying Please maintain peace ...

Also whats happening in MH..Raj is roaming here n there like chuttta

saaand and inciting ppl..and Vilasrao Deshmukh is doing nothing ...

..Even Sonia and Manmohan are saying "Please ensure safety" and still

ppl are killing each other..Had BJP been in centre , they would have

been immediately expelled the govt. but Congress will never do that ...

BJP has flaws too but anytime much better than Congress

Thats my Q : Both have -ves...but who is more better than other

29-10-2008, 10:23 PM #7(permalink)

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i am for narendra bhai--he really works
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29-10-2008, 10:36 PM #8(permalink)

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A very controversial thread. No BJP, No congress.

BJP - Too agressive

Congress - Too Linient.

Both of them miserable failures.

Any one knows what happened to all the finalists. The last 20

candidates of the Lead India campaign. They were soo promising, butturned out to be nothing. Times of India just stopped after soo much

fuss

Cant a corporate house sponsor/support them to form a independent

party. If i were a millionaire, i would hire every single one of them, and

well you know what im coming too.....

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29-10-2008, 11:11 PM #9(permalink)

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Well Mr.Shiv Khera launched his party,the Bhartiya Rashtravadi

Samanata Party (BRSP), FYI !!

@esumitkumar : I concur with u. But in the end they all just turn out to

be a bunch of hypocrites! Just remove this stewpid sharia'h system as

well and tell the apologists to go to Paki if they want it that desperately

after all thats why INDIA was divided. Let the uniform civil code &

family planning come into existence.

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29-10-2008, 11:26 PM #10(permalink)

esumitkumar

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Well the need of the nation irrespective of any Indian's religion is :

1. Uniform civil code

2. Population Control

3. Development in all states not just Delhi,Mumbai,Chennai,Pune,Hyd

etc

4. End of corruption

5. Better roads,highways and no power shortage

6. Stopping illegal immigration of Bangladeshis.

I beleive only BJP can achieve these goals if not all atleast some..

and yes 59 views and only 9 votes..common ppl ..choose ur option if

not posting atleast !

29-10-2008, 11:34 PM #11(permalink)

karnivore

in your face..

Join Date: Jan 2007


Whether we need Uniform Civil Code can be debated. But UCC at this

point of time, or in the next 50 years is next to impossible. Also, a lot of

people don't seem to realise that UCC would also mean the repeal of

HUF Act, Hindu Marriage Act etc. which, a lot of hindu zealots would

find unacceptable.

Congress or BJP - all the same. Both suck in their own strange ways.

BJP, however, has broken the suck barrier and is heading from super

suck to hyper suck. Congress is about to break that barrier.


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Quote:

Originally Posted by esumitkumar

1. Uniform civil code

2. Population Control

3. Development in all states not just Delhi,Mumbai,Chennai,Pune,Hyd

etc

4. End of corruption

5. Better roads,highways and no power shortage

6. Stopping illegal immigration of Bangladeshis.

I beleive only BJP can achieve these goals if not all atleast some..

1. Not possible.2. Agreed, but not the Chinese way

3. Agreed

4. Keep dreaming

5. Agreed

6. Keep dreaming

BJP is run by a bunch of nincompoops. And Congress by sycophants.

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29-10-2008, 11:47 PM #12(permalink)

esumitkumar

Call me Sumit

Join Date: Feb 2004


@karnivore ..can u post some facts other than I and anispace had

posted that really how BJP sucks ?? and congress is less sucking ?

Also regd UCC, if enacted how it can repeal Hindu Marriage act ?

What kind of country is ours where one Indian can have four wives

legally and another Indian on having 2nd wife is jailed legally ???

Also these are 2 major political parties of India..No govt is possible
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Posts: 1,351 without the support of any one of them ! We have only two options in

next LS and how can u be so ignorant ? Thats y for ppl like u ..I have

posted the third option ..I will sit [email protected] dont bother WTH is

going in my nation as long as I am comfortable ...If u want that plz vote

at least that option...

FOR ALL PPL if u want to suggest some other party I can put other

parties name too if u want in poll..but PLZ VOTE !!

30-10-2008, 12:14 AM #13(permalink)

karnivore

in your face..

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Location: Wit's End

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Quote:


@karnivore ..can u post some facts other than I and anispace had

posted that really how BJP sucks ?? and congress is less sucking ?

Also regd UCC, if enacted how it can repeal Hindu Marriage act ?

What kind of country is ours where one Indian can have four wives

legally and another Indian on having 2nd wife is jailed legally ???

Also these are 2 major political parties of India..No govt is possible

without the support of any one of them ! We have only two options

in next LS and how can u be so ignorant ? Thats y for ppl like u ..I

have posted the third option ..I will sit [email protected] dont bother

WTH is going in my nation as long as I am comfortable ...If u wantthat plz vote at least that option...

FOR ALL PPL if u want to suggest some other party I can put other

parties name too if u want in poll..but PLZ VOTE !!

Sorry to disappoint you buddy, but I don't sit pretty at home during the

poll day. None of the three options u provided suite me in any way. So

no vote.

As with repeal of Hindu Marriage Act. Can you tell me why should there
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be a Hindu Marriage Act, when the entire Civil Code is to be Uniform.

And please provide some proof, any proof, from a reliable source, not

some random hindu propaganda site, that people do have "four wives

legally". Dig the census report 2001, and you might just be a little

surprised.

To determine, what constitutes "suck", we have to have a debate.

Nevertheless some sucks are, pushing pseudo-science as mainstream

science, rewriting history, communal overtures, using public money for

political campaign (Shining India), disastrous plan of unification of

rivers etc. The only good thing that came out of that 6 years of rule,

was the road building project.

30-10-2008, 12:25 AM #14(permalink)

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I can see by the poll results that major anti-incubancy is happening

here. The Congress are a bunch of thieves, and the BJP are a bunch of

clowns. Who do I pick? Hmmm... Think the BJP is going totally wrong onissues like Cow Slaughter and Ayodhya, this is just pleasing to a

particular religion, and I believe that such a line should not be taken

when it comes to national politics. On the other hand, I totally respect

Sushma Swaraj, and believe her policies to be socially sound.

Chidambaram just messed up the economy, and no one is happy with

the congress at this point of time. What I hate most about the Congress

is that they are turning India into America - totally ignoring the "mixed

economy" in the constitution. Liberalisation was a bad move.

However, at least the Congress has its act together. The country has

progressed only when they have been in power, and they do have

people who show results and work instead of playing politics. Yeah

they use dubious means and stuff, but they get things done - widening

the class divide, and throwing principles out of the window, but what

the hell.

The whole thing is however besides the point. When you vote, don't

vote for the party you want in power in the center, vote for the person

who will directly benefit the location you stay in. That is how

democracy is supposed to work.
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I for one, won't vote. 25 million phantom voters in the last count, I will

play no part in the world's largest farce.

30-10-2008, 12:33 AM #15(permalink)

karnivore

in your face..

Join Date: Jan 2007

Location: Wit's End

Posts: 219


Quote:

Originally Posted by Anorion

...totally ignoring the "mixed economy" in the constitution.

Liberalisation was a bad move.

It wasn't by choice, mind you. Oil pool crisis led to liberalization. Once

that step was taken, there was no turning back.

30-10-2008, 01:10 AM #16(permalink)

anispace

dattebayo

Join Date: Aug 2004

Location: Konoha


@swatcat

I know the other side of the story. But destroying a Mosque to make

way for a temple. They call themselves Rambhakts and this is what they

do in the name of Lord Ram. There is simply no justification for that.

@esumitkumar

I just gave my opinion. didnt want to offend u or anyone.

And as i said they both suck but Congress sucks less. Just look at the

whole Nuke deal debate. The BJP had no reason to oppose the deal but


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Posts: 444 they did anyway just to bring down the govt.

Also the current economic spiral cant be entirely blamed on congress

coz its affecting the entire world n not just India.

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30-10-2008, 01:34 AM #17(permalink)

ancientrites

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Posts: 429


i will always support congress.

what this nonsense "A Ban on Cow Slaughter, to honor the Hindu

tradition of deeming cows and most cattle as sacred, and prohibiting

the consumption of beef and pork"

small examples below

It is mentioned in Manu Smruti, the law book of Hindus! In chapter 5

verse 30 The eater who eats the flesh of those to be eaten does

nothing bad! even if he does it day after day; for God himself created

some to be eaten and some to be eater

If you read Mahabharata Shanti Parva chapter 29, a story of greatness

of a king called Rantideva is described It is said that he was very rich

and generous, and used to feed thousands of guests. The paragraph

reads as follows

All the vessels and the plates, in Rantideva's palace, for holding food

and other articles, all the jugs and other pots, the pan and plates and

cups, were of gold. On those nights during which the guests used to live

in Rantideva's abode, twenty thousand and one hundred kine {cows}

had to be slaughtered. Yet even on such occasions, the cooks, decked

in ear-rings, used to proclaim (amongst those that sat for supper)

There is abundant of soup, take as much as you wish, but of flesh we

have not as much today as on former occasions"


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This shows that even after slaughtering 20,100 cows, meat used to fall

short on some occasions.

The Ban on Forcible Religious Conversions.

every person has right to do anything which he thinks its proper i meanif he feels christian or islam are good religion and he converts whats

wrong with it?.It is upto the ppl who can defend its religion against

christian missionaries,muslim scholars or hindu scholars by

debates,discussion.i saw debate between Dr zakir naik and Shri shri shri

Ravishankar.That zakir dude was pretty impressive.

I am not criticizing hindus infact they are most intelligent and beautiful

ppl in our country but its just that i am against BJP,VHP and hindu

taliban

all said done

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30-10-2008, 01:55 AM #18(permalink)

rhitwick

Democracy is a myth

Join Date: Apr 2004

Location: Thane,Mumbai

Posts: 2,029


I was a die hard supporter of BJP when Vajpayee was PM, but he has

taken retire and I couldn't even decide whgo shoul I vote now.

All r equal now.

No good leader may be some r good person but good leader.

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30-10-2008, 02:03 AM #19(permalink)

esumitkumar

Call me Sumit

Join Date: Feb 2004

Posts: 1,351


Quote:

Sorry to disappoint you buddy, but I don't sit pretty at home during

the poll day

so wat do u do ? u go to vote or not ..?

Quote:

As with repeal of Hindu Marriage Act. Can you tell me why should

there be a Hindu Marriage Act, when the entire Civil Code is to be

Uniform

I am not supporting HMA..I am saying one UCC should be enacted for

everybody who is present in India no matter what he is...(One Indian

can take divorce by saying talaq talaq talaq and another Indian has to

run to courts for years to take divorce ! Why this partiality ? ) do u

know concept of Jury duty in US ? Once u become an american citizen ,

u cant refuse from jury duty saying ur religion doesnt allow it

Another classic example is reservation..One Indian and his all next

generations get a special quota ..they get admission with lower marks

and another Indian who has scored higher in entrance exam is not

given admission as he is not SC/ST/OBC..again fking discrimination !

Quote:

And please provide some proof, any proof, from a reliable source,

not some random hindu propaganda site, that people do have "four

wives legally".

I know ppl dont have now four wives but why their law still allows four

wives ?? Even if some Indian has 4 wives police will not catch him just

cuz he is of a particular religion
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Quote:

disastrous plan of unification of rivers etc.

well how can u say that was disastrous ? If in Assam,Bihar there isalways flood and in Rajasthan,Gujarat there is always "SOOKHA" or no

rain. whats the problem in linking the rivers ???? Please explain your

point in detail

Quote:

The only good thing that came out of that 6 years of rule, was the

road building project.

at least u agree to one point ..but how about Nuclear test ? do uconsider it useless ? in spite of all threats frm Pak and China ! Why

Congress had not the guts to do it again after 1974 ? They were just

freaking afraid of USA ? In congress I adore only one PM and that was

Indira Gandhi !! we need some ironlady/ironman as PM not some lallu

panju !

Quote:

Think the BJP is going totally wrong on issues like Cow Slaughter and

Ayodhya...this is just pleasing to a particular religion

How ? India is a Hindu Majority country ! and in our religion cow is

considered as mother...

Whats the harm in banning cow slaughter ?

Our country is the most secular..We dont have any problem peacefully

living with other religions...In fact Hindu Dharma is the most tolerant of

all religions...and Its in India only we can have a Muslim President, Sikh

PM and first woman PM..in the whole world..I have many Muslim close

frnds and I never differentiate b/w them and my Hindu frnds !

Have u ever seen Pakistan's state of Affairs ? How Hindu minority is

living there ? How free are they to practice their religion and worship ?

Also I had already expressed my opinion about Ayodhya !

Quote:

Chidambaram just messed up the economy


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++1..fully agree

Quote:

However, at least the Congress has its act together. The country has

progressed only when they have been in power

WOW..what a gr8 point..see some of amazing works done by congress

from 1947-1999.

(READ ALL IN SARCASM..the truth is just opposite)

1. We have beaten China in 1962 war and occupied most of the China

area near Arunachal Pradesh.Chacha Nehru's mantra "Hindi Chini Bhai

Bhai" has really worked

2. We are getting in every part of India 24 hrs power supply, safe

drinking water,crime free society etc etc

3. Our roads are super freeways, Even American freeways and German

Autobahns are nothing as compared to our roads

4. Our population is record lowest . Its lower even than America.( 33

crores)

5. We have fastest railways in whole world . Germany,France and Japan

have borrowed Bullet Train technolgies from us..We have so much fast

trains that we can reach from Delhi to Mumbai in just 3 hrs. (1407 kms)

6. We have totally stopped cross firing from BDR (Bangaladesh Rifles) In

fact we have totally stopped Illegal Immigration ..Its a thing from the

past

7. We are the most corrupt free country in the world

8. BY all above ..our economy is so strong that 1 Rs= 45 $ now

TOO MUCH hai na

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The whole thing is however besides the point. When you vote, don't

vote for the party you want in power in the center, vote for the


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person who will directly benefit the location you stay in. That is how

democracy is supposed to work.

++1 ..OK so in ur area..Congress has worked ? so vote for them na ?

Quote:

I for one, won't vote. 25 million phantom voters in the last count, I

will play no part in the world's largest farce.

Thats the gr8est thing which most educated ppl do ...Please dont vote

and play safe..Country BJP chalaye ya congress mujhe kya ????? Mere

ko kya fark padega ? right ? aisa hee soch k hazaron lakho ppl dont

vote..they dont voice their opinion..so who wins..not democracy..but

only a handful powerful ppl who want to always remain in power !

If you have read all this..Thanks !

@anispace

I am not offended...we are just having a healthy debate ..thats it ..thnx

for ur concern

and ya abt destroying a mosque..Babar had the full right to destroy a

temple and karsevaks dont have right to undo what crime he has done

??? I also dont support this type of demolition though...

For ages and ages, first it was British who divided India and now stupid

netas are dividing us in the name of religion , regionalism etc etc

..Illiterate ppl are getting all this s**t and we all educated one are not

voting

and ya NUke deal..thats a lotta debatable issue..can u plz tell pros and

cons according to u

I am also agreeing BJP is not 100% good but at least if they are 70%

Congress is just 40-45 %

and ya no one is blaming congress for US recession

@ancientrites

There were many things said in religious books........kya tum sabko

maante ho ?

Those things were in old times ..Todays things are changed in today's


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perspective ...

This is human nature we bend all things said as acc to our comfort

and also BJP is not taliban..I am not talking abt RSS etc . In BJP regime

how many minorities have been denied all civil rights ? u know whynarendra won again..One of my frnds frm Ahmbd was saying even

some Muslims vote for Narendra ..y ? cuz he has done a whole lot of

dev in the state

and that zakir dude is pretty BS u can find on orkut many hate

communities abt him ...its a propaganda and brainwashing !

@rhitwick

BJP just needs a rework I think..Party after Vajapyee had fallen to

regional chaos and fight amongst themselves..They have gone from

their core Hindutva, UCC etc principles..thats why most ppl are

unhappy wid them

May be Narendra can correct that..have u seen in TOI exit polls whats

gonna happen in Delhi..BJP will wipe out all majority in forthcoming

delhi elections

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30-10-2008, 07:20 AM #20(permalink)

mehra.rakesh

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BJP is a better party for corporates & business houses ... if they do good

naturally the middle classes do good tooo... The problem is the party is

in shatters at the moment ...... plus too many hawks are present in the

party which scares me ...

Status Quo of article 370 shud be maintained ,, besides it wont be

possible to repeal it in a single term of the gov ..
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I ain't gonna vote for some party who decides what do i eat ... next

thing you know we wud be heading the taliban way with tanks crushing

seized liqour en masse ....

Building Ramjanbhoomi temple in ayodhya :::: If they do manage to

build a temple i wud be the first one to go there to destroy the temple

and build a hospital instead ... Rather even if the logistics dont permit i

wud build a nuclear reactor over there . Try & blow that up HAHAHA

still thrs time 4 elections .. i wud be happier to vote 4 manmohan singh

with his idiot cabint rather than advani with hawks.......

LOLLING ROFLING at the guy who said liberalizing was a mistake .... by

all probabilities DIGIT wudn't have existed so wud have dozens of other

start ups including 4m the IT & BPO industry .....

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30-10-2008, 08:16 AM #21(permalink)

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BJP is lamer than congress,look at LK advani-everything he says is

'lol'able.

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30-10-2008, 08:24 AM #22(permalink)

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yeas congress sucks big time.......i wanted to support some party but

after seeign these ppl in LS...........i feel these ppl are not woth

voting.........see them in LS channel fighting at each other........shame....

financial crisis,marathi regionalism,etc etc really upsets me with pres

gov

will vote for some new party if UNPA is formed.......better than these

two foolish party......or else someone suggest some good party i wil

vote..............fedup seeing so many pathetic situations in INDIA/We

need to have more unity among ppl.....regionalism,casteism,poverty

are the biggest issues today(n many others...)......hope someone comes

to solve hem in future

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so wat do u do ? u go to vote or not ..?

Till 5-6 years ago I did more than just vote. Now I just vote

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I am not supporting HMA..I am saying one UCC should be enacted for

everybody who is present in India no matter what he is...(One Indian

can take divorce by saying talaq talaq talaq and another Indian has

to run to courts for years to take divorce ! Why this partiality ? ) do u

know concept of Jury duty in US ? Once u become an american citizen

, u cant refuse from jury duty saying ur religion doesnt allow it


generations get a special quota ..they get admission with lower

marks and another Indian who has scored higher in entrance exam is

not given admission as he is not SC/ST/OBC..again fking

discrimination !

Common buddy, you are now shifting the goal post.

I am well aware of jury duty, and you know better that there are ways

toget out of jury duty.

I support reservation at primary level, not in IITs and IIMs.

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I know ppl dont have now four wives but why their law still allows

four wives ?? Even if some Indian has 4 wives police will not catch

him just cuz he is of a particular religion

Agreed.

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well how can u say that was disastrous ? If in Assam,Bihar there is

always flood and in Rajasthan,Gujarat there is always "SOOKHA" or

no rain. whats the problem in linking the rivers ???? Please explain

your point in detail

Sorry cant give you the detail, but perhaps Mr Google can help you.
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Anyway, I had these two bookmarks, which I can share with you. Read

a little bit onAmu-Darya projectand its disastrous effect on Aral sea.

Then read this opened byV. Rajamani, Professor of Geology at JNU,

Delhi. Tinkering with nature, beyond a threshold is always disastrous.

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..but how about Nuclear test ? do u consider it useless ? in spite of all

threats frm Pak and China ! Why Congress had not the guts to do it

again after 1974 ? They were just freaking afraid of USA ? In

congress I adore only one PM and that was Indira Gandhi !! we need

some ironlady/ironman as PM not some lallu panju !

About the nuclear test, I am split in two. More than the nuclear blast, I

was happy that we could beat the Yankees in their own game of hide n

seek. On the other hand, we achieved little from the blast, if you keep

the overflowing nationalism in check. The embargo that followed the

blasts almost crippled our nuclear plants and defense research, and

even some civil projects (funding got cut). If you think in Real (material)

terms, there was no gain.

Strangely though, I find Ms Gandhi, to be one of the worst PMs of

India. Remember Emergency, Bhindranwale (Khalistan movement),

turning Congress into family property etc.

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How ? India is a Hindu Majority country ! and in our religion cow is

considered as mother...


India is constitutionally secular country. It does not matter which

religion is the majority. Thats why it is ethically incorrect to ban cow

slaughter. Next the muslims would ask for ban on slaughter of swine.

And I can actually refer to hymns from Hindu scriptures that profess

cow/ox slaughter and beef eating. But lets not get there. But let me

quote you only:

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There were many things said in religious books........kya tum sabko
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maante ho ?

Those things were in old times ..Todays things are changed in today's

perspective ...

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Our country is the most secular..We dont have any problem

peacefully living with other religions...In fact Hindu Dharma is the

most tolerant of all religions...and Its in India only we can have a

Muslim President, Sikh PM and first woman PM..in the whole world..I

have many Muslim close frnds and I never differentiate b/w them

and my Hindu frnds !

Have u ever seen Pakistan's state of Affairs ? How Hindu minority is

living there ? How free are they to practice their religion and worship

?

Is Hindu Dharma the most tolerant of all religions ? Not considering

Buddhism or Jainism, compared to the Abrahamic religions, it is indeed

tolerant. But it is intolerant in a different way. It simply refuses to

recognize other religion by shoehorning those into its scriptures. There

is a reason why Buddhism is virtually non-existing in the land of its

birth.

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Thats the gr8est thing which most educated ppl do ...Please dont

vote and play safe..Country BJP chalaye ya congress mujhe kya ?????

Mere ko kya fark padega ? right ? aisa hee soch k hazaron lakho ppl

dont vote..they dont voice their opinion..so who wins..not

democracy..but only a handful powerful ppl who want to always

remain in power !

You are forgetting, that voting is legal right, NOT compulsory. NOT

voting is also a right. Just as voting is expression of opinion, NOT voting

is an expression of opinion negative opinion. In a democratic system,

not voting is equivalent to saying, I dont like any of the candidates

and hence I refuse to choose any of you. Please explain, why negative

opinion is NOT an opinion.


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30-10-2008, 12:21 PM #24(permalink)

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^^ But isn't NOT voting different and less effective from NO Voting (

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...ow/1030221.cms ) ?

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^^ But isn'tNOT voting different and less effective from NO Voting (

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...ow/1030221.cms) ?

Hmmm, can't really agree there Pathik. If you're given the option of

getting whipped by a cane or a whiplash, or not getting whipped at all,

what would you choose?

Anyway, these parties are bloodsuckers anyway. In any case, they're

only interested in narrow minded appeasement of someone/thing or

another. Anyhow, if I feel like I'd be whipped more or less by someone,

I can choose to show my dissent that I wouldn't liked to be whipped by

anyone.

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30-10-2008, 01:47 PM #26(permalink)

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A request: PLEASE don't laugh(except at jokes(you'll know!)) after

reading the content of this post. Politicians, please dont read this. Also,

I'd like to declare that I can't vote(I'm still a minor ). Nevertheless,

here's what I think:

The NDA was definitely better than the UPA! The falling economy and

inflation(can't stress this enough... wait, I guess I can try: Inflation) are

the proofs which are screaming in our face for attention.

BJP might be better but hey, they are still politicians! Not all of them

are evil(All hail Mr. Modi!), but most of them are(in BJP as well as

congress, UPA, any party!). The point is, no matter what we choose, a

bad apple "destroys" the bunch(I've always wanted to say that!).

Corruption, even in little amounts can lead to decay of the wholesystem!

When I say whole, I mean whole! look at what happened to Sourabh

Ganguly due to politics(Mr. Pawar, please look away).

I've said this before, I'll say this again:-

This might lead to a trapped feeling. That's what causes most of us to

gape at other countries and try to find jobs elsewhere. It might appear

as if, there's no way out. But there is!!! Consider trying to enter politics

yourself out of frustration caused by the existing politicians! If a group

of nice people do so, India will rise from its ashes!

One may argue that no one will vote for a political newbie!Well, that IS

the problem! Common folks here just don't vote for anyone because

they give a damn for the country. They just seek someone who is of

their caste! Or someone related to them! Or someone who will give

them reservations or any kind of previlage. This reminds me of

elections in schools. Candidates offer free ice-cream etc!!!!!

So, unless Indians wake up and think of this alternative, there can be nocommon progress! I can only wait for such a future (or rather
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hope for existence of such a future!)

We have democracy! We should use it!(Yet again, I'm feeling like a dork

! Any supporters?)

@esumitkumar: Good thing you created this one, I could almost seeadmins getting angry about the use of Random news as Fight Club!

Also,

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It wasn't by choice, mind you. Oil pool crisis led to liberalization. Once

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I don't know why the government is buffering the social costs ofowning a vehicle. If oil costs so much to the governments, the people
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with vehicles should bear the total costs of the oil. This means that a lot

of people will opt for public transport, which is good for the economy

and the ecology. The parking costs of vehicles in metropolitan cities are

rediculously low. In fact, they are free in many places. Look at the

prime location parking rates in cities like New York, London, Sydney orTokyo, and you will know how little people owning vehicles are actually

paying up.

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generations get a special quota ..they get admission with lower

marks and another Indian who has scored higher in entrance exam is

not given admission as he is not SC/ST/OBC..again fking

discrimination !

Reservation is a good thing. Although how it is implemented is totally

irregular, to equalize the class devide, you totally need reservations.

One example of this is that mosts scientists in India are from Upper

class Hindu Brahmin families from South India.

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Only that it is against the beliefs of another religion, and they don't care

about the friggin cows, they care about the number of votes this step

will get them.

@Ayodhya: so what if it was a Ram temple all those centuries ago. If we

go on to correct every single historical mistake commited in this

country, we will end up not taking pro-active steps for the future. The

govt should not invest in anything at Ayodhya. If anything, a hospital or

a school should be set up there using money from Hindu and Muslim

funds. Now that would be something productive instead of another

hell-hole of sacrilage.

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WOW..what a gr8 point..see some of amazing works done by

congress from 1947-1999.

(READ ALL IN SARCASM..the truth is just opposite)

1. We have beaten China in 1962 war and occupied most of the China

area near Arunachal Pradesh.Chacha Nehru's mantra "Hindi Chini

Bhai Bhai" has really worked



3. Our roads are super freeways, Even American freeways and

German Autobahns are nothing as compared to our roads

4. Our population is record lowest . Its lower even than America.( 33

crores)

5. We have fastest railways in whole world . Germany,France and

Japan have borrowed Bullet Train technolgies from us..We have so

much fast trains that we can reach from Delhi to Mumbai in just 3

hrs. (1407 kms)

6. We have totally stopped cross firing from BDR (Bangaladesh Rifles)

In fact we have totally stopped Illegal Immigration ..Its a thing from

the past

7. We are the most corrupt free country in the world

8. BY all above ..our economy is so strong that 1 Rs= 45 $ now

TOO MUCH hai na

Except point 8, none of this is the fault of the Congress. You expect the

congress to stop Indians from breeding like rats? You expect the BJP

can do that? Who started the "hum do hamare do" thing? Who

developed health care and the mid day meal program. Go figure. These

are inherent problems of India, unless we go communist or something,

these problems will never be solved. Because of the rates of

renumeration of the Beurocracy, corruption will awlays be there.

Bangladeshis will continue to flee to India, and as humans have a right
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to escape terribly inhuman conditions and come to relatively less

inhuman conditions. We should accomodate them, the same as we

accomate refugees from Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Bangladeshis are

people too, not lesser mongrels. The problem with the roads is not that

the concrete is not of good quality, its just that the transportationpeople [illegaly] overload their trucks, something for which the

highways were simply not designed. This was from a survey conducted

by the UN to see how India was using world bank funds.

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++1 ..OK so in ur area..Congress has worked ? so vote for them na ?

No. Actually, in my area, the Shiv Sena has worked. They really have. I

am not a marathi manoos, and I am totally against some of their

methods, but in my locality, they are the most promising goons around,

they will probably end up in a BJP govt at the center, which will totally

work for the most of you, but I still refuse to vote.

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Thats the gr8est thing which most educated ppl do ...Please dontvote and play safe..Country BJP chalaye ya congress mujhe kya ?????

Mere ko kya fark padega ? right ? aisa hee soch k hazaron lakho ppl

dont vote..they dont voice their opinion..so who wins..not

democracy..but only a handful powerful ppl who want to always

remain in power !

I do care a damn. There are retards, illiterates, fanatics, lunatics and

idiots out there, and all of them vote. I will vote if any one here can give

me just ONE direct benefit of doing so. What good will my vote do to

me? The country is going strong irrespective of the govt in the center.

Less than 60% of the people cast their ballots, and you call this country

a democracy. Elections are simple hilarious, its a comedy and a put up.

Everyone knows who is going to win and for what reasons. Anti-

incubancy is a decisive factor in every elections since independance.

We just end up hating the govt that ruled for five years.

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Anyway, these parties are bloodsuckers anyway. In any case, they're

only interested in narrow minded appeasement of someone/thing or

another. Anyhow, if I feel like I'd be whipped more or less by

someone, I can choose to show my dissent that I wouldn't liked to be

whipped by anyone.

+1

Vote for the BJP if you guys want. It will be "India Shining" all over

again, and everyone will have a few laughs with them going on stage

and putting on a comedy. The only good thing is we won't have

bloodsucking leeches in power.

Whatever happened to the hammer and the sickle?

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