Bates Association - WILLIAM OF HANOVER, AND SON, EPHRAIM...

THE BATES ASSOCIATION FOUNDED IN 1907

SERIES X VOL 4 SUMMER 2012 NUMBER 2

The Bates Bulletin

In This Issue

William of Hanover …………………………………... Cover Results from Election of Officers …………………….. Cover My Health …………………………………………….. Cover Possible New Bates Line ……………………………... Cover Brick Wall for Francis & Shirley Bates ………………… 479 Bates Association Loses Members ……………………… 484 Welcome New Members ………………………………...484 Brick Wall for William S. Bates ………………………... 485 Brick Wall for Barbara & Karen Craley ………………... 487 Association Volunteers …………………………………. 489

WILLIAM OF HANOVER, AND SON,

EPHRAIM OF NJ, LINE HAS NOW COME

TO A CLOSE By Sandy Bates

Up to this point we have been discussing William of Hanover and his Family Line. What we are 100% sure of, is the DNA results belong to the William of Hanover NJ Line. We have established this line by using Billy Samuel Bates as the baseline person .

Now if we accept William of Hanover’s Father as Thomas of Wales, then we must now look at WILLIAM BATES who im-migrated from England to Ireland and then to NJ, settling at Newton Creek NJ, what is today known as the Cottonwood area. At this time I have no established DNA line for this William, and his descendants. Since I had felt that Billy Samuel Bates was my established line, I now find myself back to square one.

William lived in Ireland, and Philip Geoghegan and Wife Del-phine now own the land and buildings where William lived. Located in Kilbride Wicklow, County Wicklow, Ireland. Philip will be submitting an article and pictures for a future bulletin.

Along with that article I will do write ups on this William and his descendants. Since we have a missing generation it will be just trying to piece together what info we do have and submit it, and the Info from the area William settled.

RESULTS FROM ELECTION OF OFFICERS by Sandy Bates

Once again the same slate of officers were voted into Office. Many nice words were expressed, as to what a great job the Of-ficers are doing, as well as all Volunteers. I want to personally thank all members who voted. There was one write in vote for Terri Bates Black as Vice President.

RECEIVING BULLETIN BY E-MAIL by Sandy Bates

I email out the bulletins to all those who receive the bulletin by e-mail. It is nice to hear back from each member that the bulletin was received. I have no other means to know if received or not. Of course if I have a bounced e-mail, I will know; but no other means of knowing. If you think you are missing one just go to

t h e M e mb e r s O n l y a r e a o n o u r w e b s i t e www.batesassociation.org and read it there. Of course, to get into the Members Only area you have to apply on the web site for your own user name and password, if you have not already done so.

MY HEALTH by Sandy Bates

On Feb 14th, I had arthroscopic knee surgery. There was so much damage under knee cap that nothing got repaired. I am told I will need total knee replacement. The surgery left me in pain, and the surgery also threw my whole immune system out of whack. I have had one set back after another since then. Even being taken by ambulance to hospital. Thank you all for your prayers and well wishes. They are greatly appreciated.

THIS MAY BE A NEW BATES LINE by Sandy Bates

But at this time we have no DNA to see if any matches. So for now I am calling it THOMAS of ENGLAND, with Immigrants, to the US, in the line being; SAMUEL BATES 1796-1894 and his SONS.

LINE IS: THOMAS BATES, b abt1648 d Unknown--SAMUEL BATES 1678-1719 --JOHN BATES 1704-1736--FAIRHALL BATES 1734-1817--WILLIAM BATES 1772-1852--SAMUEL BATES 1796-1894--SAMUEL ISAAC BATES 1829-1891--FRANK A BATES b NY 1860-1933--HUGH FRANCIS SAMUEL BATES b NY 1891-1977--FRANCIS C. BATES b NY 1913-1988--FRANCIS C & Shirley Bates.

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BRICK WALL FOR Francis & Shirley

Bates Francis knows that his Great Grandfather was Frank A. Bates, born 1860 in Cape Vincent, Jefferson County, New York. He married Annette Woodward. They had a son, Hugh S. Bates, born 23 Oct. 1891 in Cape Vincent. A second child named Robert S. Bates born Mar of 1895. Frank’s wife Annette died 18 Mar. 1895. Frank then remarried to Alberta Pringle, and had Claude H and Iva. Francis believes that Frank’s parents were Samuel and Caroline. From an old Family Bible is a record of Samuel Bates marrying Caroline A. Loadwick on 8 Sept. 1850. No children were listed in the Bible.

Francis came across a source called Child’s Gazetteer, Town of Cape Vincent that states Samuel Bates born 1797 is son of a William Bates of Kent England, and Samuel came to America about 1831.

Other research brings up this Possible Line: All these folks were born and died in England except for Samuel, and sons, who came to America.

We will begin with the first known Bates.

1. THOMAS BATES born about 1648, marr Anne Rade b abt 1648. They had 4 Children:

2. Anne Bates b 1673.

2. Katherine Bates b 1674.

2. Thomas Bates b 1676.

2. SAMUEL BATES b 1678 d 1719.

2. SAMUEL BATES b 19 Apr 1678 marr 13 Oct 1701 Mary Springat. Samuel d 1719 age 41.

Samuel and Mary had 9 Children:

3. Child Bates b and d 1701.

3. Infant Bates b 1701/02.

3. JOHN BATES b 1704 d 1736.

3. Samuel Bates b 1705.

3. Elizabeth Bates b 1708.

3. Thomas Bates b 1709.

3. Richard Bates b 1711.

3. Lydia Bates b 1713.

3. William Bates b 1717.

3. JOHN BATES b 1704, marr Mary Fairhall 28 Jul 1730.

John d 1736 age 32.

John and Mary had 2 Children:

4. John Bates b 1731.

4. FAIRHALL BATES b 1734 d 1817.

4. FAIRHALL BATES b 1734 marr Mary Butler 10 Jun 1765. Fairhall d Apr 1817 age 83.

Fairhall and Mary had one son:

5. WILLIAM BATES b 1772 d 1852.

5. WILLIAM BATES b 21 Jun 1772 marr 10 Jun 1794 Ruth Roffe, Ruth b 1775 d 1828.

Wm. d 21 Dec 1852 age 80.

William and Ruth had 13 Children:

6. William Bates b 1795.

6. SAMUEL BATES born Kent England 1796, d 1874.

6. John b 1799 d 1881.

6. Naasson Bates b 1801.

6. Nathan Bates b 1802.

6. Ruth Roffe Bates b 1804 d 1891.

6. Hester Bates b 1806.

6. Mary Bates b 1808 d 1852.

6. Isaac Bates b 1810.

6. Fairhall Bates b 1812.

6. Judith Bates b 1814 d 1870.

6. Emma Bates b 1817.

6. Maria Jane Bates b 1822 d 1887.

6. SAMUEL BATES b 24 Jan 1796/1797 Kent England, came to America; 19 Apr 1830 at age 33 departed London, England, arrived in New York, NY on the ship Columbia. He settled in Montgomery County but ten years later, 1841; located in Cape Vincent, Jefferson, New York. He marr Sara Maria Campbell, dau of William Campbell of England. She was born 1800 and d Oct 1867, age 67. Samuel d in Cape Vincent in 1874, age 78.

Samuel and Sara had 8 Children:

7. Selina (Salina) Maria Bates b 25 Jan 1821 d 15 Feb 1822 age 1.

7. William Fairhall Bates b 22 Dec 1822 d 1861 age 39 in Eng-land.



7. Charles Henry Bates b 12 Mar 1825, came with Father in 1830, at age 5, marr 6 Apr 1847 to Christiann Loadwick, dau of Casper and Elizabeth (Bellinger) Loadwick She was b 1829 d 1862. They had 9 children: 8. C. Hayden Bates--8. Elizabeth L Bates--8. Wealtha A Bates--8. William F Bates d 22 Feb 1853 in NY--8. Sarah M Bates b 1848--8. Joseph H Bates b 1849 marr Maggie Gray, dau of Edwin and Eleanor (Wood) Gray of Cape Vincent, they resided on a farm on road 62, they had 2 children. 9. Zelmia E--9. McComb--8. Casper L Bates b 19 Jun d 23 Jun 1850--8. Frederic J Bates b 24 Dec 1851 d 9 May 1852--8. Sam-uel Campbell Bates b 11 Mar 1853 d 1930 at age 77. He marr Eva line b Sep 1854 and they had 9. Adam G Bates b Sep 1883--9. Edna M Bates b No 1887.

Charles Henry Bates marr Mar 1867 (2nd) Nora Nugent, dau of Martin and Mary (Hines) Nugent. She was 31, and Henry was 42 yrs old. Nora was b in Ireland. She d in 1911 in Cape Vin-cent at age 75, buried Riverside Cem in Cape Vincent. Charles and Nora had 6 children: 8. Martin Andrew Bates b 7 Mar 1867, d 30 Jun 1948 in NY--8. John E Bates b 1868--8. Kate Bates b 18 Oct 1869, d 2 May 1872 age 2--8. Christie Ann Bates b 1871 d 1931 age 60--8. Ilanda Bates b 1878 d 1956 age 78.

7. SAMUEL ISAAC BATES b 1832 d 1891.

7. Sarah Maria Campbell Bates b 27 May 1832.

7. Nathan Russell Bates b 14 Oct, 1835 marr Ellen (Helen) b 1839. They had 6 children: 8. Weathy b 1855--8. Georgian b 1856--8. Ida b 1859--8. Clara Bates b 1860 d 1880 age 20--8. Willie Bates b 1862, marr Edith--8. Eddie C Bates b 1871 d 1880 age 9.

Nathan d 7 Mar 1888 in Three, Mile Bay, NY.

7. Margaret Ruth Bates b 25 Dec 1837 d 1851 age 14 in Eng-land.

7. James Jefferson Bates b 28 Oct 1839.marr 1862 Altheus Flander, dau of Christopher and Eunice (Johnson) Flander of Lyme. Altheus b 1843. James and Altheus had 5 children: 8. Addie M Bates--8. James E Bates b 1863--8. John W Bates b 1864--8. Adelbert Russell Bates b 1875, marr 1898 Rosa B, b 1871, had 9. Addie M Bates b 1915--8. Lewis C Bates b Jan 1863.

James settled on his Fathers Samuel’s farm known as Lake View Farm, where James was born and always resided.

7. SAMUEL ISAAC BATES b 19 Jun 1829 England, marr Caroline A Loadwick, dau of Casper and Elizabeth (Belliner) Loadwick of Watertown. Caroline b 23 Apr 1831 d 6 Nov 1913, age 82 yrs, in Three Mile Bay, NY. Samuel arrived with

his Dad in 1830. Samuel and Caroline had 5 Children:

8. Isabelle Bates b 1857

8. FRANK A BATES b 1860 d 1933.

8. Emma E Bates b 1866.

8. Tunis I Bates b 1868 d 1954.

8. George G Bates b 1869 d 1950

Samuel Isaac Bates was a Farmer, he d 18 Sept 1891, age 62 yrs 8 mos, in Cape Vincent.

8. FRANK A BATES b 4 Oct 1860 Cape Vincent, marr (1) 26 Dec 1888 Annette E Woodward, b 15 Sept1868 d 17 Mar 1895, age 27. According to family oral histories Annette died in child-birth. Her son Robert went to live with his grandparents Spencer James Woodward and Lucinda Lana “Tinnie” (Bacon) Bates. His brother Hugh went to live with his Father, Frank in Cape Vincent.

From a wedding announcement. The wedding is announced of Frank Bates of Cape Vincent, NY to Anna E. only daughter of J. S. Woodward, at the residence of the bride’s parents in the town of Antwerp, Wednesday evening, Dec 26, 1888.

Frank and Annette had 2 Children:

9. HUGH FRANCIS SAMUEL BATES b 1891 d 1977.

9. Robert Spencer Bates b 4 Mar 1895 in Cape Vincent, d 19 Jul 1945, in Rochester, Monroe, NY., buried in Hillside Ceme-tery, Antwerp Village, Jefferson, NY. Marr abt 1915, Agnes M Bates b 1895, d 1948. Robert worked as Assistant Chief Train Dispatcher Watertown Office, NY Central Railroad. They had 1 Child: 10. Garth Bates b 1921, d 1994.

8. Frank A. Bates marr 18 May 1904 (2) Alberta Pringle, b abt 1879, in Canada, d 1963 age 84. They had 2 Children:

9. Iva Bates b 1908, d 1960.

9. Claude H Bates b 1909. Had dau Anna.

Frank d 1933 , Three Mile Bay, Jefferson NY. From his obit: F. A Bates, 73 dies suddenly. Three Mile Bay, Nov 1--Frank A. Bates 73, retired farmer, died suddenly from a heart attack at his home here abt. 11:45 p. m. Tuesday. While Mr. Bates had not been in the best of health for several years, his death was sud-den. He was born in the town of Cape Vincent, Oct 4, 1860, a son of Samuel and Carolyn Bacon Bates. He received his edu-cation in the town of Cape Vincent where he farmed until 16 years ago when he came to Three Mile Bay to make his home Mr. Bates marr. Twice. When a young man he marr Miss Anna Woodward, who died 39 years ago. On May 18, 1904, he marr

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Miss Alberta Pringle. Mr. Bates was a member of the Three Mile Bay grange. Besides his widow he is survived by one dau, Mrs. Harold Huck Three Mile Bay; three sons Claude Bates, Oswego; Hugh F Bates, Buffalo, and Robert N. Bates, Antwerp; two sisters, Mrs. Anna Wells and Mrs. Minton Warner, Three Mile Bay; two brothers George Bates, Kingston, NY and Tunis Bates, Cape Vincent. Funeral services will be held from the home Friday at 1 p. m., and from Three Mile Bay Methodist Episcopal church at 1:30 p. m. with Rev. Frank Mindham, pas-tor, officiating. Burial will be in Three Mile Bay Cemetery.

9. HUGH FRANCIS SAMUEL BATES b 23 Oct 18901 Cape Vincent, marr in Kingston, Ontario, Canada, 31 Aug 1912 Katherine Elizabeth “Bessie” Crary, dau of John Proctor Crary and Mary E “Minnie” Daughan. Bessie b 1894 d 1980. Hugh received his business license for Bates Tire and Auto Supply located at 2071 South Park Ave, Buffalo, NY. Hugh and Bessie lived in Watertown NY then Schaghticoke NY, then Buffalo City, NY, then to Brooksville FL. Hugh d 12 Jan 1977 age 85,

Date on tombstone is wrong. Should be 1860-1933.

Annette Woodward, (1st) wife of Frank A Bates

Robert Spencer Bates and wife Agnes

Claude and Iva Bates



buried Florida Hills Memorial Gardens Lot 621, Block 2. Bessie d 15 Jul 1980 Brooksville, Hemando, FL age 85.

Hugh and Bessie had 2 Children:

10. FRANCIS BATES SR. b 1913 d 1988.

10. JOHN S BATES b 01 Sep 1915 in Cape Vincent, d 27 Apr 1991, in Buffalo City NY. Marr. Vera Gertrude Gressell, b 1894, d 1980. They had 2 Children: 11. David Jay Bates b 1943, d 2010--11. Joyce Bates

Hugh Bates @ 6 months

Hugh’s store in Troy, NY. Hugh Bates in center.

Katherine “Bessie” Bates

Hugh and Katherine Bates

Hugh Bates



10. FRANCIS BATES SR. b 2 Aug 1913 Cape Vincent, marr 8 Sep 1942 in Kalamazoo, Michigan, Margaret Ann Knapp, dau of Joseph A and Mary M (Rudnicki) Knapp. Margaret b 1916 in Bliss NY, d 2004. Francis owned Bates Tire and Rubber Company in Buffalo City, NY. Enlisted in the US Army in 1941. Francis d 8 Aug 19889 in Gouveneur, St. Lawrence, NY.

Margaret d 14 Apr 2004 in Kenmore, Erie, NY. Margaret’s Obit: Margaret A. Bates, April 14, 2004; beloved wife of the late Francis C. Bates; dear mother of Francis C. Jr. (Shirley) of Beaverton, OR, Peter C. (Diane) of Morristown, NJ, Christopher H. of Couerd d’Alene, Idaho and Michael J. Bates; grandmother of seven grandchildren; sister of the late Rita Moser and Jose-phine Richter; also survived by many nieces and nephews. Friends are invited to attend a memorial Mass at Blessed Sacra-ment Church (Claremont Ave) Friday, April 30 at 10:00 AM. In lieu of flowers, donations to Alter Rosary Society of Blessed Sacrament Church, Arrangements by the C. Mertz and son fu-neral home, Inc. Published in the Buffalo News on 4/18/2004.

Francis and Margaret had 4 Children:

11. FRANCIS CRARY BATES JR. 11. Peter Charles Bates. 11. Christopher Hugh Bates. 11. Michael John Bates.

11. FRANCIS CRARY BATES JR. marr Shirley Kay Wil-son, in Switzerland.

They have 2 Children:

12. Kathleen Bates.

12. Gregory Bates.

Francis Bates Sr. and John Bates

Francis Bates Sr.

Francis Sr. and Margaret in 1981

Francis (Fran) Jr. & Shirley



BATES ASSOCIATION LOSES MEMBER DARRYL G. ADAMS of HUNTSVILLE, AL

Darryl joined in 2004. He is the Clement line, and I sent him a complete packet, and he was very grateful. He stated, pictures and such were included in the packet, that he did not have.

Bates Family Line is: Clement--Joseph--Caleb--David--William--Theodore--Theodore--Walter C.--Mamie Bates Smith--Rona Smith Adams--Darryl G. Adams.

We offer our condolences to his family.

DARRYL G. ADAMS

March 30, 1939-Oct. 18, 2011. Darryl G. Adams, 72, of Huntsville passed away on Tuesday. Darryl was a longtime resident of Hunts-ville. Originally from Colorado, he graduated from Colorado State University with a B.S. in electrical engineering and later from Florida Institute of Technology with a master’s in business administra-tion. Work in the aerospace and defense industry took him to most

parts of the county, beginning in 1961 in the Pacific Northwest, and finally to Huntsville in 1971. Darryl was a member of Holy Spirit Catholic Church, a trustee of the Huntsville Symphony Orchestra, past chairman of the National Space Club, member of the Greater Huntsville Rotary Club, and a graduate of Class 1 of Leadership Huntsville. He retired from Boeing in 1995 and later from Qualis Corporation in 2009. Daryl is remembered by many as the voice of Brass, Reeds, and Percussion, a band music pro-gram on WLRH-FM, broadcast weekly since 1976.

Survivors include his wife, Jemalee J. Adams; daughter, Jenna Adams Pirani; grandchildren, Elizabeth Anne Pirani and Cath-erine Marie Pirani; sister-in-law, Judith Johnston and husband Arden; brothers-in-law, James Johnston and wife Patricia; and Jerry Johnston and wife Delores.

Visitation will be from 5 to 7 p.m. Thursday at Holy Spirit Catholic Church. The funeral service will be a 1 p.m. Friday at the church with Father Michael MacMahon officiating. Burial will be in Maple Hill Cemetery. Laughlin Service Funeral Home is assisting the family.

Published in The Huntsville Times October 19, 2011.

WELCOME NEW MEMBERS DONNA BEALS of MA, was listed in the Spring 2002 Bulletin as a New Member. Sandy was waiting for info. on her line. Her line is Clement--Joseph--Joshua--Jacob--John--Alanson 1772-1842--John 1808-1873--Jesse Bates 1833-1905, marr Catherine A Joslin, marr 2nd Lucy Elizabeth Greene, b 1841-1910. Sister of Lucy was Zilpha Ann Greene Hill--Emilie Ambrosia Hill marr Alexander Barton Luther--Myrtle Adeline Luther 1909-1996, marr Victor Roland Swanson--Beverly Ann Swanson, marr Bruce Beals--Donna.

Another line is Clement--Joseph--Joshua--Rachel Bates, b 14 Jul 1696, in Hingham MA. marr. Andrew Beals Sr., b 1685, Rachel d 20 Nov 1780 age 84. Andrew and Rachel had Abel Beals Sr., b 1733--Abel Beals Jr., b 1755--Stephen Beals, b 1791--George Fletcher Beals, b 1816. Sandy sent info on Lydd and her Clem-ent Line.

RUTH TOWNSEND of AK, was listed in the Spring Bulletin, page 467. Dr. Maynard Bates sent a correction within this line. We will have the correction and a write up, in the Fall Bulletin.

KATHLENE LUKASIK of OH - her line is Clement--Joseph--Caleb--David--Jonathan--Moses Sr., 1769-1842--Moses Jr., 1805-1854, marr Roseannah Goodenough 24 Feb 1831 in Springfield VT. She d 1850 in IND--Gibson, 1835-1910--William Elmer, 1867-1948--William Edward, 1900-1980--Charlene Ann Bates--Kathlene. Sandy sent Kathlene info on Lydd and her Clement Line.

QUERY: Roseannah Bates, mother of Gibson, died in IN but can find no trace of her death or burial place. Need more info on her. Thanks, Kathlene.

KEVIN BATES of WA - Kevin believes he belongs in the Clement Line but from some of the names he gave, Sandy be-lieves he may be in the Francis of Ipswich Line. Sandy is wait-ing for more info from Kevin to finish the research for him.

MELVIN CHARLES BATES of CT - The earliest ancestor Melvin has listed is Charles D. Bates. Sandy is waiting for more info to do research for Melvin.

STEPHEN WILLIAM BATES of MD - Stephen knows that his great-great grandfather, Thomas Bates, was b 1838 in Eng-land--great grandfather, William John Bates, b 1883 in England--grandfather, William Charles Bates, b 1909 Canada--father, Paul Eugene Bates, b Bradford PA, then Stephen. Then he is not sure of the next three that he has. 3G Grandfather Samuel Bate b 1816 England, 4G Grandfather William Bate b 1789 England, 5G Grandfather Samuel Bate b 1760 England. Stephen matches closely in the 12 marker test with the Edward of Weymouth



Line, and also the 24 marker, but does not seem to match close in the 37 marker. So we will have to research this line for Stephen.

BILL & DORIS GAIL CAGLE of NJ - Gail can go back to Ephraim Madison Bates b 1824 d 1894, and buried in Gilmer, Co, GA. He marr Cynthia Hunter 20 Nov 1844 in Early Ruther-ford Co NC. We can go no farther. Would like to find when and where this line of Bates made it to US soil. Ephraim Madison Bates had son, Watsil Avery Bates b 1857 marr. 1877 Laura Emeline Sharp, b 1855 d 1924, Watsil d 1887. Next in line is William Pooley Bates b 1883 GA, d 1967, marr 1904 Lenora Miller, b 1885 d 1951. Next Roy Bates b 1925 GA d 1981 Dal-las TX, then Doris Gail.

WENDY MACDANIELS of ME - Wendy can go back in her line to a Francis S Bates, (goes by name Frank or Franklin) b 1855 in Rockland or Jefferson, Maine, d 1912-- His son Harvey A. Bates b 1880 Whitefield ME--then Frank Alden Bates b 1905 Bath ME, or Boothbay Harbor, ME--Marilyn Ann Bates b Bath ME then Wendy.

Wendy has been trying to piece together the Bates of Lincoln Co ME and has some guesses as to who Francis’s parents may be. In 1880 census Francis was living with a John Allen Bates b 1820 and Margaret Augusta Bates. John Allen Bates is listed as Francis’ stepfather. Wendy believes that John Allen Bates could have been a relatives of Francis’ father. John Allen Bates par-ents were Jared and Eunice Bates of Whitefield, ME. Also, a David b 1813 could be a possibility for Francis’s father. One other possibility is a Allen Bates of Waldoboro, ME b 1824, marr Catherine Acorn, in 1850 she d 1853. Allen Bates did marr Augusta Wallace 1854 in Rockland, ME and could be right time frame for Francis’ birth. The name Allen has been handed down, as Francis had a son Allen Francis b 1877. There are also Wal-laces on my grandfather’s side of the Family. Thanks for any help on my line.

BRICK WALL for William S Bates First off his DNA matches others that we know go back to the William of Hanover, NJ line. Also, the line of George Bates of Brimfield, MA, is only one mutation away. Sandy has not been able to establishment any kind of a connection with these folks. But with the matches she would say that there is definitely some kind of a connection within these two family lines. Now we have William S. Bates who matches William of Hanover and one away from George of Brimfield, with his line going back to a John Bates 1770 marr. Frances Burnett. Sandy cannot hook him up anywhere in the William of Hanover of NJ line, or the George of Brimfield line.

On the Internet you can find several Family Lines written up taking this John Bates of 1770 back through an Isaac--Isaac--Isaac--John--George--John--Isaac--John--William--William--Robert--Richard. This is incorrect information. It is not known who the parents of John Bates 1770 are.

The Bates of Old Virginia has three times engaged genealogists in England and failed to find information. Also, the DNA of John of 1770 does not match the DNA of the above incorrect line given.

We begin with William S. Bates’ Family line:

1. JOHN BATES b abt 1770 marr 1 Nov 1846 Frances Burnett in Patrick Co, VA. Frances b abt 1778 Amherst Co. VA, d 15 Sept 1856 Cherokee Co, GA. John d 15 Jan 1846 Hickory Flat, GA. Frances was the dau of John Burnett who d at Valley Forge PA in winter of 1777/78.

John and Frances had the following children:

2. Jesse Bates b abt 1798 Patrick Co, VA marr abt 1815 Delilu Aaron in Lincoln Co, GA. Jesse was the postmaster in Hickory Flat in 1832. Jesse d 27 Oct 1856. Jesse and Delilu had 3. John Bates b abt 1817--3. Joshua Bates b abt 1821 d abt 1863 marr Lucinda Harris--3. Elizabeth b abt 1823 marr Nathaniel D. Payne 15 Mar 1843 she d abt 1856.--3. Mary Bates b abt 1824 marr 11 Jun 1845 Simon Cameron--3. Frances Bates b abt 1826 marr Joseph Sheflett--3. Lucinda Bates b abt. 1830 marr 19 Sept 1849 James Bennett, she d bef 1852--3. Sarah Elizabeth Bates b abt 1832 marr 4 Nov 1844 Loren Torace Carr, she d bef 1888--3. William Caleb Bates b abt 1834 marr 7 Nov 1850 Martha Jane Boyd, he d abt 1861 in the Civil War?--3. Daniel Bates b abt 1835--3. Louisa Bates b abt 1835 marr 5 Sept 1852 James Bennett--3. Calvin Bates b abt 1841.

2. Rhoda E. Bates b abt 1799 Patrick Co, VA, marr 1 Jun 1815 John Bell Lincoln Co, GA. Had 3 children (2) marr Henry Stro-ther Gaines had 6 children. Rhoda d abt 1863.

2. Reuben Bates b abt 1800, disappeared bef 1846.

2. Judith Bates b abt 1807 Lincoln Co, GA, marr 24 Jul 1822 Thomas B. Wheeler Elbert Co, GA.

2. George W. Bates b abt 1809 Lincoln Co, GA. Marr 22 Sept 1831 Mary Ann Treadway Habersham Co, GA. 2nd marr Sarah Ann Hunter. George d aft 1880 Lafayette Co. Fl.

2. FRANCIS MARION BATES b 24 Apr 1811 Lincoln Co, GA

2. Frances Lucinda Bates b abt 1813 Lincoln Co, GA, marr 9 Sep 1830 Franklin Alfred Martin, Henry Co, GA. Frances d 8

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Mar 1899 Cherokee Co, GA. They had 11 children, and lived and died near Macadoni Church in Cherokee Co.

2. Sarah Elizabeth Bates b abt 1814 Lincoln Co, GA, marr 16 Nov 1828 Thomas J. Martin, Henry Co, GA. Sarah d aft 1870 Butts/Henry Co, GA.

2. Louisa Etta Bates b abt 1821 Elbert Co, GA, marr abt 1837 Richard Holland, Dekalb Xo, GA. Louisa d 26 Mar 1915 Tyler, Smith Co, TX. Richard was a dentist and a school teacher.

2. FRANCIS MARION BATES b 24 Apr 1811 Lincoln Co, GA, marr 24 Oct 1833 Sarah Bell, Henry Co, GA. Francis d 11 Dec 1888 Freemansville GA. Sarah b 1818 d 16 Jul 1871 or 1877. Francis was a Dr. and had the Family Bible and some of the data is taken from this Bible.

Francis was a devoted Christian 50 years member Baptist church. He spent lots of time at bedsides of the sick. Dr. F M Bates beloved husband of Sarah Bates died at his residence in Cherokee Co, GA 11 Dec 1888 at 78 yrs. Buried Hopewell Church Cem, Milton Co, now Fulton Co. Francis and Sarah had five sons and two son-laws served in the Confederate Army and one son served in the Union Army. Two sons were killed in that war.

Francis and Sarah had the following children:

3. George W Bates b 1835 d 1 Sept 1862.

3. Louisa Jane Bates b 1836 d 1929.

3. Andrew J. Bates b 1837 d 1904.

3. Francis Marion Bates b 1839 d 2 Jul 1864.

3. NEWTON LEE BATES b 22 Aug 1840.

3. Jasper M. T. Bates b 28 Sept 1842 d 1914.

3. Rhoda Ann Bates b 25 Jul 1844 d 1916.

3. John Henry Bates b 22 Mar 1847 d 28 Dec 1928. Lou wife of John Henry d 27 or 29 Mar 1880.

3. James Knox Polk Bates b 17 Nov 1848 d 1920. James had 17 children.

3. Martha Caroline Bates b 1850 d 13 Jun 1853.

3. Sarah G. Bates b 1852 d 1852.??

3. Sara Elizabeth Bates b 10 Jan 1854 d 1892.

3. NEWTON LEE BATES b 22 Aug 1840 in Dekalb Co., GA, 25 Mar 1866 marr (1) Mary Adeline Cross at Milton Co, GA. Mary was b 11 May 1843 Freemansville, GA. She d 30 Jan 1885 at Walnut Grove, AL, marr (2) Laura Catherine Herring

He d 14 Aug 1915 in Etowah Co., AL.

Newton and Mary had the following children:

4. Francis Marion Bates b 9 Dec 1866 at Freemansville, marr 9 Feb 1892 Nannie Catherine Ellison at Altoona, AL. Nannie b 23 Feb 1870 d 20 Dec 1954 at Paducah, TX. He d 14 Oct 1930. Had children: 5. Ethel Bates b 23 May 1893 d aft 1894--5. Wal-ter Marion Bates b 28 Jan 1895 marr abt 1920 Bertha A. Moss, d 25 Feb 1955 TX.--5. Ila Bates b 5 Nov 1897 marr 1916 Cantrell Eargel, She d Jun 1959 AL--5. Claud Francis Bates b 27 Jan 1899 d abt 1957 AL.--5. Nellie Nancy Bates b 2 Jan 1904 marr abt 1923 in TX, (1) J. Roy Biddy marr (2) Pat Bennett. She d 28 Oct 1994--5. Earnest Lee Bates b 2 Jan 1907 marr abt 1930 Alvie Moss. 5. Ellis J. Bates b 30 Aug 1913 marr at TX, Addie McWilliams, he d abt 1970.

4. William Jasper Bates b 9 May 1868 Freemansville, marr 13 Aug 1893 Fannie Mae Ballew at Milton, She was b 1875 d 1947. He d 14 Jul 1925 Tulia, Swisher Co, TX. They had 10 children.

4. John A. Bates b 27 Nov 1869 Freemansville, marr 12 Jun 1892 Mollie Louella Gamble at Oneonta, Blount Co, AL. He d 21 Sept 1942 at Snead’s Crossroads, Blount Co, AL.

4. Sarah M. Bates b 7 Jun 1872 at Milton Co, AL, marr 17 Feb 1898 at Altoona Richard L. Cagle, She d 21 Dec 1920 at Al-toona.

4. James A. Bates b abt 1873 ARK marr 24 Oct 1895 at One-onta, (1) Hattie Wheeler, at Tait’s Gap. AL. (2) marr Maybelle Roberts.

4. GEORGE LEE BATES b 27 Dec 1877 at Freemansville, marr abt 1897 Ida Mabel Thompson at Alpharetta GA. He d 14 Nov 1937 Fulton Co GA. She d 1946.

Newton Lee and Laura Herring Bates



George and Ida had the following children:

5. Jesse Lee Bates b 13 Jan 1899 GA, marr 1914, John Cantrell Cowart, had 4 children. She d 07 Jul 1971 in GA.

5. WILLIAM NEWTON BATES b 25 Oct 1900.

5. Walter Talmadge Bates b 01 Jul 1903, marr 1923 Sarah B. Robertson, b 1903 d 1939, He d 04 May 1989. Had 6. Walter Talmadge Bates Jr. 1924, d 1969.

5. John Isaac Bates b 01 Oct 1905, marr Ruby Lucille Miller b 1908 d 1983, Had two children, one John Leon Bates b 1931 d 1983. John d 24 Aug 1974.

5. Pauline Bates b18 Jul 1908, marr 1926 Buelo Cobb Phillips b 1905 d 1987. Pauline d Nov 1994.

5. Mattie Lou Bates b 07 Jul 1910, mar 1926 Claud Cleveland Cook, b 1906 d 1966. She d 08 Mar 1984. Had 7 children.

5. Carrie Meecie Bates b 05 Sept 1912, marr Wilburn Pierce Cobb b 1910, d 1985. She d 19 Mar 2000.

5. George Foster Bates b 29 Jun1914, marr 1933 Fannie Belle Dinsmore b 1917 d 1997, He d 09 Jan 1984.

5. WILLIAM NEWTON BATES b 25 Oct 1900 marr 10 Jun 1923, Effie Susan Shirley. William was a farmer and a mer-chant. He d 08 Jul 1974 in Hall Co, GA. William and Effie had the following children:

6. Marion P. Bates

6. WILLIAM S. BATES

6. Phyllis Imogene Bates b abt 1927, d 2002.

6. Walter L. Bates

BRICK WALL for Barbara & Karen

Craley Researching for her brother-in-law, Tommy Bates and his brother Rick.

Sandy has spent numerous hours researching the information for Barb. She has searched in every place available to her, and finds no connections to this line. What she does know is that the DNA results are only one mutation away from the Edward of Wey-mouth, MA line.

We begin with 1. Daniel Bates. Barb says that a county history published in the late 1800’s of OH, (Pioneer Record and Remi-niscences of the Early Settlers and Settlement of Fayette Co., OH, by Rufus Putman) states Daniel immigrated from Virginia about 1808. This was written many years after Daniel’s death. Barb says she has found no actual records that place Daniel in VA, at any time. His wife, Jane, stated in her 80’s, that her hus-band, Daniel, came from VA.

According to pension records Daniel served in the war of 1812. Daniel was born 11 Sept 1786 in VA (an 1850 Census I found says born in PA). He marr. Jane Hankins 03 Oct 1805 in Ross Co., OH. Jane was born in VA, 5 Jan 1786. She died 27 Aug1874 in Fayette Co., OH. Daniel d 07 Oct 1844 in Fayette Co., OH. Daniel was a Farmer. In the 1810 Tax Rolls, Daniel paid 65 cents in tax for 100 acres land of most inferior quality. In 1811, John Blue found a horse and Daniel and another man appraised it. In 1822, Daniel was listed as appraiser for estate of Mark Morris. In 1827 Daniel served on two juries. In 1835, Real & Personal Property Tax list, Daniel had 3 horses 5 cattle and 0 carriages.

Both are buried in the Bates-Gamble Cemetery in Fayette Co., OH.

Daniel and Jane had the following children:

2. Richard Bates b 13 Dec 1810 OH. D 22 Apr 1874 Fayette OH marr Mary Margaret Sutherland 17 Jan 1833 Pickaway OH Mary b 1814 OH d Mar 1860 Fayette Co, OH.

Walt Thompson, Grandfather, with his Bates Grandchildren, on right of Walt is William, on lap John, on floor Pauline, behind her Walter Talmadge and behind him Jesse

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2. Hester Ann Bates b abt 1811 OH d bef 1844, marr George B Cook 09 Apr 1826 Fayette Co OH. George b 1806 DE d 16 May 1891 Sigourney, Keokuk Co IA. George Cook’s father Thomas Cook came to OH in 1807/1808 settled in Frankfurt Ross Co. Son George came with his parents. George and Hester had Daniel Cook--Jane Cook & Thomas J Cook.

2. Harriet Bates b 07 Aug 1815 OH, d 12 Apr 1887 Fayette Co, OH, marr Robert Matson 12 Dec 1833 Fayette. Robert b 15 Nov 1812 d 30 Jul 1877 Fayette.

2. JACKSON BATES b 25 Aug 1818 Pickaway OH, d 14 Nov 1906 Fayette Co, OH

2. Joseph Bates b 03 Jun 1816 (1822) Fayette d 29 Dec 1843 Fayette. Buried Bates-Gamble Cem.

2. Lucinda Bates b 26 May 1825 Fayette d 18 Mar 1862 Twin Twp, Ross Co OH marr Thomas Jefferson Plyley 11 Apr 1849 Twin Twp. Thomas b 17 Jan 1818 Twin Twp. D 17 Apr 1893 Twin Twp, OH.

2. Eleanor Bates b 03 Dec 1826 OH d 09 Sep 1857 Fayette marr Peter Strope 30 Jan 1851 Fayette. Peter b 30 Jan 1829 Fayette d 13 Sep 1851 Fayette.

2. Jane Bates b 30 Jan 1829 d 19 Jan 1900 Fayette marr (1) James Brown 19 Oct 1852 Fayette. James b 15 Apr 1829 Fay-ette, d 28 Jun 1871 Fayette (2) Marr ? Shipley abt 1867-1869 Fayette, He was b abt 1873 d bef 1880.

2. Sarah Bates b 22 Aug 1844 Fayette d 11 Sep 1873 Fayette marr Valentine F Tharp bet 1867-1869 Fayette. He was b Jul 1835 OH d 04 Jan 1915 Fayette.

2. JACKSON BATES b 25 Aug 1818 Pickaway OH d 14 Nov 1906 Fayette OH. , marr (1) Ruhanna Blue 28 Feb 1841. She was b 21 Sep 1818 OH d 12 Nov 1865 Fayette. (2) marr Harriet Powell bet 1874-1896 Fayette. She b 1833 d 27 May 1909, Perry Twp, Fayette Co. OH.

Jackson and Ruhanna Blue had the following children:

3. Joseph Bates b 13 Apr 1842 Fayette d 02 Dec 1921 Fayette.

3. John Bates b abt 1844

3. RICHARD EDWARD BATES b Feb 1846 OH d 26 Sep 1904 St Mary’s Pottawatomie KS.

3. Arabella Bates b 20 Mar 1855, Fayette d 22 Jun 1855, buried Bates-Gamble Cem.

3. Sarah Bates b 07 Aug 1851 Fayette d 03 Sep 1852 Fayette.

3. Samuel Bates b 16 Jun 1853 Fayette d 08 Apr 1854 Fayette, burial Bates-Gamble Cem.

3. RICHARD EDWARD BATES b Feb 1846 in OH, d 26 Sep 1904 KS marr, Mary Catherine Robinett 06 Sep 1867 Fay-ette. She was b 04 Aug 1841 Athens Co OH d 12 Sep 1904 in KS. Richard enlisted as a private, in the Civil War, on 25 Feb 1864, at age 18. Catherine made violins and played one herself and she made each of her sons one and taught them how to play.

Richard and Catherine had the following children:

4. William Valentine Bates b 29 Dec 1867 OH d 09 Aug 1949 Jackson Co, OR.

4. Gilbert Edward Bates b 24 Sep 1873 Marion Twp, Fayette, d 19 Mar 1950 Topeka Shawnee Co. KS.

4. Permelia Harriett Bates b 13 Aug 1877 Washington Court House, OH d 13 Jul 1938 Leoti Wichita Co. KS.

4. CLARENCE GUY BATES b 29 Jan 1883 OH d 1949 KS. Marr Mary Frances Harris 02 Aug 1905 in Clay Center, Clay Co. KS. She was b 12 Aug 1882 in KS, d 18 Nov 1969 in Wichita, Sedgwick Co. KS. Clarence was Tall, medium build, gray eyes, dark brown hair.

Clarence and Mary had the following children:

5. Mae Arilla Bates b 29 Jun 1906 Oakhill Clay Co KS d 25 May 1981, Conway Springs, Sumner Co KS.

5. Vera Marie Bates b 1908 Ks d bef Apr 1930.

5. Thelma Eva Bates b 26 Dec 1909 KS d Nov 1993 Wichita, Sedgwick Co KS marr Winfred L Showman 1927 Ks. He was b 26 Jan 1904 KS d Sep 1976 Wichita KS.

5. Alta Garland Bates b17 Jan 1912 KS d 16 Jun 2001, Conway Springs, KS.

5. Leonora Ione Bates b 30 Aug 1920 Jefferson Twp KS, marr Claude Cunningham.

5. CLARENCE LAVERNE BATES b 30 Oct 1922 in Dillon, Dickinson Co, KS. d 04 Feb 1998 Wichita KS. He was a Com-bination Technician for Southwestern Bell Telephone Co. Bur-ial East Hill Cem, Erie, Neosho Co. KS. Served in the US Army. marr Sue Ann Coyer b 11 Dec 1930 d 15 Feb 1997 in Benton, Butler Co KS.

Clarence and Sue had three children, two now living. Clarence had seven additional children with a second wife.

Membership Committee............Terri Bates Black, Sandy Bates, Carol Seward, Cindy Waltershausen

Directory...................................Terri Bates Black & Sandy Bates

Communications Coordinator........................... Terri Bates Black

Wharton, NJ 07885, [email protected]

Backup Communications Coordinator..........................Stan Bates

Web Site............................................................Terri Bates Black

Back-up Web Site........Derek LaPointe, Computerconscript.com

Historian-VA....................................................Wayne Witt Bates

Head of DNA Project......Wayne Witt Bates, [email protected]

Visit Our Website at http://www.batesassociation.org

President......................................................................Sandy Bates 222 Line Rd, Greene, ME 04236, [email protected]

President Emeritus..........C. Benjamin Bates, [email protected]

Executive Vice President……………........James Cleveland Bates 192 South St, Rockport, MA 01966, [email protected]

Resident Agent............................................................Lynne Bates 11 Meadow Lane Apt 2, Bridgewater Mass 02324

Treasurer....................................Mary Lou Bishop & Sandy Bates

Secretary of Treasurer…C. Benjamin Bates, [email protected]

Computer Chair..........................Spence Klein, [email protected]

Editor................. ..............Terri Bates Black [email protected]

Librarian......................................................................Sandy Bates

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