Ban on  P values

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Ban on P VALUE ?End of days of inferential statistics

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Ban on P VALUE

?End of days of inferential statistics

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Null hypothesis

• RESEACHER GUESS OR IMAGINE AS

THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE IN THE

FREQUENCE OF THE OCCURRENCE OF

EVENT BETWEEN CONTROL AND

INTERVENED GROUP =NULL

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Jerzy Neyman and Egon Pearson

• Type I error: Rejecting a null hypothesis when it's true

• Type II error : Accepting one when it's not

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DOES IT MEAN what we mean?

Most scientists would look at his original P value of 0.01 and say that there was

just a 1% chance of his result being a false alarm. But they would be wrong.

The P value cannot say this: all it can do is summarize the data assuming a

specific null hypothesis. It cannot work backwards and make statements about

the underlying reality. That requires another piece of information: the odds that

a real effect was there in the first place.

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USE OF “p”

P values are widely used in

science to test null hypotheses

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EXAMPLE

In a medical study looking at smoking and cancer, the null

hypothesis could be that there is no link between the two. The

closer to zero the P value gets, the greater the chance the null

hypothesis is false; many researchers accept findings as ‘significant’

if the P value comes in at less than 0.05.

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TEST OF TIME

•P values are slippery, and sometimes,

significant P values vanish when

experiments and statistical analyses are

repeated

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CRITIC

“ T H E P V A L U E W A S N E V E

R M E A N T T O B E U S E D T H

E W A Y I T ’ S U S E D T O D A Y.”

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NUMBERS GAME

Despite the criticisms, reform has been slow. “The basic framework of statistics has

been virtually unchanged since Fisher, Neyman and Pearson introduced it,” says

Goodman. John Campbell, a psychologist now at the University of Minnesota in

Minneapolis, bemoaned the issue in 1982, when he was editor of the Journal of Applied

Psychology: “It is almost impossible to drag authors away from their p-values, and the

more zeroes after the decimal point, the harder people cling to them”. In 1989, when

Kenneth Rothman of Boston University in Massachusetts started the journal

Epidemiology, he did his best to discourage P values in its pages. But he left the journal

in 2001, and P values have since made a resurgence.

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Ioannidis is currently mining the PubMed database for

insights into how authors across many fields are using P

values and other statistical evidence. “A cursory look at a

sample of recently published papers,” he says, “is

convincing that P values are still very, very popular”.

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2ND OPENION

http://www.nature.com/news/scientific-

method-statistical-errors-1.14700

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