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BABIES, BATHWATER AND TARGETS Tony Quinlan Chief Storyteller Narrate Thursday, 30 September

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BABIES, BATHWATER AND TARGETS

Tony QuinlanChief Storyteller

Narrate

Thursday, 30 September

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CRISES, CRISES ALL AROUND

•Crises are indications that current thinking needs to move forward

•Recessions always produce new leaps forward (1990s: Business Process Engineering, etc)– Evolutions in business thinking - what’s the next stage?

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TARGETS

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TARGETS CAN MAKE LIFE MORE DIFFICULT

•What actions do you take as a result of your targets?– Can you trust them? Have they been “gamed”?– What does 10% lower mean? Just do more or do something

different?– Was it as a result of a particular context or situation?

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TARGETS ARE NOT THE DISEASE

•Targets are only a symptom of a “complicated” approach to all problems

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complicatedSense

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Cynefin framework

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IN THE COMPLEX SPACE:

•Cause and effect are apparent in retrospect– But do not repeat– Are not predictable

•Perspective filters•Complex Adaptive Systems

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IN THE COMPLEX SPACE:

•Probe - Sense - Respond– Safe-fail experiments, not fail-safe projects

•Stimulate networks and environments•Pattern Management

– Boundaries– Attractors– Disrupt negative behaviour– Reinforce positive patterns

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The implications of complexity

• Small differences at the start create big differences by the end ... so different organisational cultures require different processes

• In retrospect, we can see how, where, when and why things happened ... but  predic+on  is  impossible

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Complexity vs complicated

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Complexity vs complicated

• Can you predict with certainty the end result of the process?

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Complexity vs complicated

• Can you predict with certainty the end result of the process?

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Complexity vs complicated

• Can you predict with certainty the end result of the process?

• NB “Hope” does not count...

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complicated tools for soft issues

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complicated tools for soft issues

• Why do we do it?

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complicated tools for soft issues

• Why do we do it? – Numbers - to justify ourselves

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complicated tools for soft issues

• Why do we do it? – Numbers - to justify ourselves– Measure our success

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complicated tools for soft issues

• Why do we do it? – Numbers - to justify ourselves– Measure our success

• Answers are averages

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complicated tools for soft issues

• Why do we do it? – Numbers - to justify ourselves– Measure our success

• Answers are averages – Out of context

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complicated tools for soft issues

• Why do we do it? – Numbers - to justify ourselves– Measure our success

• Answers are averages – Out of context

• Questions can be leading

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complicated tools for soft issues

• Why do we do it? – Numbers - to justify ourselves– Measure our success

• Answers are averages – Out of context

• Questions can be leading– Gaming the survey

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complicated tools for soft issues

• Why do we do it? – Numbers - to justify ourselves– Measure our success

• Answers are averages – Out of context

• Questions can be leading– Gaming the survey– “Free” comments aren’t

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A complex problem

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A complex problem

“We’re about to re-focus on an existing product. We’ve been given clear guidance by friendly customers that they

would have more faith in the product - and buy more - if our sales force had more faith in the product.”

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The projectAdditional challenges

• Multiple languages– None of them English...

• Need it quickly• No idea what to expect

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The project StoryWhat we did

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The project StoryWhat we did

• Collected examples of good/bad experiences

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The project StoryWhat we did

• Collected examples of good/bad experiences• “Signify” the examples

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Signification?

• Tell us how you see the story...– Adds meaning– Allows us to analyse– Stops “experts” mis-interpreting

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SignifiersIn this story the rep’s main focus was on...

[Company] Customer

N/ADefending the

product Making the sale

N/A

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How common is this sort of story Never before/since

Very rare

Happens sometimes

Quite common

All the time

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SignifiersIn this story the rep’s main focus was on...

[Company] Customer

N/ADefending the

product Making the sale

N/A

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How common is this sort of story Never before/since

Very rare

Happens sometimes

Quite common

All the time

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SignifiersIn this story the rep’s main focus was on...

[Company] Customer

N/ADefending the

product Making the sale

N/A

The attitude of the rep

Their sales skills Their product knowledge

What was most important in the success or failure? N/A

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Results

• Initial patterns and issues evident from data

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Client questions

• Does the most difficult part of the sales call change for pre-2005/post-2005 reps?– Does it change for last sales training course?

• Does the Competitive threat change for different customers?– Low data volumes, but there appears to be a shift away from generic for reps selling to specialists– Not specifically asked, but reps selling to specialists seemed to index stories with a more

pessimistic attitude and a more rational approach

• How do sales call and customer influence link? (Suspicion that objection handling is linked to [product risk 1])

– There is a correlation (r=0.233) between [product risk 1] and objection handling. There is a stronger correlation (r=0.259) between [product risk 2] and establishing the need

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The bonus question

• How many positive stories about objection handling can we identify?

– There are 18 stories that are strongly indexed to objection handling and are either positive or strongly positive

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Benefits

• Sales force enthused by the process itself• Local product/brand managers deepen understanding of

local issues• Surprises identified - and checked through data• Communications plan adapted to address real issues• Key stories provide content for communications

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Staff are too child like &

pathetic

Staff patronise children

Too much to see and its

overwhelming

Not enough to keep me

interested

Rushed from place to place missed things

Too much time in one place

LIVERPOOL MUSEUMIMPACT MEASUREMENT

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Staff are too child like &

pathetic

Staff patronise children

Too much to see and its

overwhelming

Not enough to keep me

interested

Rushed from place to place missed things

Too much time in one place

LIVERPOOL MUSEUMIMPACT MEASUREMENT

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Staff are too child like &

pathetic

Staff patronise children

Too much to see and its

overwhelming

Not enough to keep me

interested

Rushed from place to place missed things

Too much time in one place

The museum stinksI was embarrassed to be thereWe never got to do anythingWhy can’t I have a go?We were treated like morons

LIVERPOOL MUSEUMIMPACT MEASUREMENT

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Staff are too child like &

pathetic

Staff patronise children

Too much to see and its

overwhelming

Not enough to keep me

interested

Rushed from place to place missed things

Too much time in one place

The museum stinksI was embarrassed to be thereWe never got to do anythingWhy can’t I have a go?We were treated like morons

LIVERPOOL MUSEUMIMPACT MEASUREMENT

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Staff are too child like &

pathetic

Staff patronise children

Too much to see and its

overwhelming

Not enough to keep me

interested

Rushed from place to place missed things

Too much time in one place

The museum stinksI was embarrassed to be thereWe never got to do anythingWhy can’t I have a go?We were treated like morons

When were in the insect house I wanted to use the models. Mr Smith kept telling us about them but didn’t let us touch them until the end and there wasn’t any time. He can play with them anytime and I missed my chance because of him, its not fair.

LIVERPOOL MUSEUMIMPACT MEASUREMENT

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The short version

• New approaches to big problems– Often the “intractable” ones or the soft issues– Single project, multiple uses/results

• The next evolution of business thinking– Emphasis on client’s existing capabilities, emergence of issues

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