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    )rabhup/da. ust like Bou try to understand me, that this matter, consisting of fiveelements, earth, air< earth, 6ater, airearth, 6ater, fire, air, ether -nd then, still subtlerthan ether is the mind, and then, subtler than the mind is intelligence, and subtler thanintelligence is the spirit soul +o before 6e reach our spiritual platform, there are so manyelementary material platforms +o in different planets one of the element is prominent

    ust like 6e can e7perience in the ocean and sea the 6ater is prominent 2n the land earthis prominent +imilarly, in different, *ust like in the sun planet fire is prominent +o ineach and every planet there are particular type of body, particular type of residents Boucannot e7pect that the same type of body and same type of residents are there

    1971 Conversations and Morning Walks

    >oom Conversation uly 1#, 1!%1, ?etroit.

    )rabhup/da. We reuire help from personalities like you, because it is very importantmovement, checking a great mistake in the modern 6orld Modern civiliDation is very

    risky >isky in this sense. that the human form of life is an opportunity for selfrealiDation, but our leaders, they are miseducating that "Bou are this body" - basicmistake 5ut 2 am not this body, but *ust like you are sitting there, if 2 take account ofyour shirt and coat only, not you as a person, then there is a great mistake +imilarly, themodern civiliDation, education, everything is based on this bodily concept of life 5utactually 6e are not body 5ody is my shirt and coat Mind, intelligence and ego, that isthe shirt, finer dress -nd this five element body:earth, 6ater, fire, air, ether:this isgross ust like shirt and coat +imilarly, 6e are dressed, the spirit soul

    1972 Conversations and Morning Walks

    >oom Conversation 6ith Eenneth Eeating, F+ -mbassador to 2ndia ;ctober 1',1!%$, Ge6 ?elhi.

    )rabhup/da. 0herefore anything produced out of the land, that is also property of Hodust like if you have got a gold mine in your country +o 2 am not 2ndia 6ill not go toclaim that "2t is my property" 2t is your property, because it is produced 6ith your land+o if the 6hole land, 6hole sky, 6hole air, 6hole light, everything belongs to Hod, then6here is your proprietorshipI 2t is stated, bhJmir /po 4nalo v/yukhabuddhimanoeva K5H %'L Go6, nobody can say "0he sky is my property," but there must be someproprietor of the sky What do you thinkI 2f everything has got a proprietor, everything ismade of these five elements:sky, 6ater, air, earth

    1973 Conversations and Morning Walks

    >oom Conversation 6ith =ord 5rock6ay uly $&, 1!%&, =ondon.

    )rabhup/da. +o if people take to it, if people are educated, then things 6ill change in adifferent 6ay 0hey4ll be happy and they 6ill be peaceful, nice -nd above, over andabove them, they 6ill have ne7t life very blissful, full of kno6ledge, and eternal Bad

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    ?evotee K$L. When the material 6orld is annihilated, it still is there, is it notI

    @day/nanda. 0hat4s in the 5hagavadgAt/, the five elements are all eternal

    BaOomatAnandana. 2 understand that the process is eternal, )rabhup/da said

    ?evotee K$L. Go, no, no, the five elements are eternal

    BaOomatAnandana. each universe

    )rabhup/da. What is thatI

    ?evotee K$L. 0he five elements are eternal

    Morning Walk ?ecember 1%, 1!%&, =os -ngeles.

    )rabhup/da. Go, ho6 you can say soI 0he condition is the same Nvery planet is made ofearth, 6ater, air, fire, the five elements +o if under these condition there are livingentities in this planet, 6hy not in that condition living entities in other planetsI 0hat istheir ignorance 0hat is their bluff 0he different condition of the planets is that someplanet is fiery, some planet is gaseous, some planet is 6atery 0hat may be, but after all,they are made of these five elements -nd each element, 6e find there is living entity +oit may be mi7ture or pure, there must be living entities -nd in 5hagavadgAt/ it is saidsarvaga Nven in the fire there is living entities -nd 6hy notI 2f living entities can stayin 6ater, 6hy not in fireI

    1974 Conversations and Morning Walks

    Morning Walk anuary 1#, 1!%', @a6aii.

    )rabhup/da. 0hen so much control, that is another thing 5ut not control "+o muchcontrol" means no control K*apaL KbreakL admitted that 6e are controlled by nature0hat you cannot refuse 0hat is foolishness Go6, ne7t, ho6 nature is 6orkingI 0hat isalso replied in the 5hagavadgAt/, may/dhyakea praktisJyate sacar/caram. K5H!13L "0he material nature is 6orking" ust like 6e are also taking the advantage ofmaterial nature, kityapte*a @ere is earth, but 6e can take this earth and make intobrick and make a skyscraper building +o it is not that the earth itself is going to becomea skyscraper building 2 am living entity< 2 am utiliDing +o nature means these five

    elements, eight elements +o that has been manipulated by another living entity

    Morning Walk 9ebruary 1%, 1!%', 5ombay.

    ?r )atel. Bes, yes

    )rabhup/da. 5ut that sound is e7isting in all other five elements, four elements

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    ?r )atel. >ight

    )rabhup/da. 0he sound is not only in the ether, but sound is on the air 0he sound is inthe fire, the sound is also in the 6ater, and sound is also on the land +o the basicprinciple of O/ntarasa is there

    ?r )atel. 2n all of them

    )rabhup/da. -ll of them 5ut according to the position, it is more developed

    ?r )atel. Bes

    Morning Walk -pril 11, 1!%', 5ombay.

    BaOomatAnandana. >aso 4ham apsu kaunteya prabh/smi OaOi K5H %#L KbreakL

    )rabhup/da. 5hJmir /po analo v/yuK5H %'L 5ecause this material 6orld means theseelements, this earth, this 6ater, then fire, then air, then sky:five elements +o 6hat arethese elementsI 0hese elements are Ea4s energy 5hJmir /po analo v/yu

    2talian Man K1L. Material energy

    )rabhup/da. Material energy, yes -nd the living entities, they are also energy, spiritualenergy 06o energies 06o energies means *ust like fire 9ire has got t6o energies, heatand light +imilarly, the 6hole creation is combination of Ea4s energy 0hereforeeverything is Ea 2s it notI Bes ust like you take milk 9rom milk you prepare somany milk preparations Bou prepare yogurt, you prepare ghee, you prepare rasagull/,

    you prepare burfi and so many others 5ut therefore, actually, all of them are milk 0hisis Fnder different combination only 2n the milk, if you put some sour thing, it becomesyogurt 5ut it is milk -nd that sour thing also, 6hich is put into the milk, that is alsoEa KbreakL Why @e is originally person, try to understand

    197 Conversations and Morning Walks

    >oom Conversation 9ebruary 1(, 1!%(, Me7ico.

    )rabhup/da. 2f you have studied about the subtle body of living entityI

    )sychologist. Go

    )rabhup/da. 9irst of all, this, this gross body made of five material elements:earth,6ater, air, fire, like that 0his 6e can see 6ith our eyes, but 6e cannot see the mind,intelligence and ego -lthough everyone kno6s there is mind, there is intelligence +o6hen this body is annihilated, the subtle body:mind, intelligence, egocarries the soul toanother gross body 0his is the process of transmigration of the soul Go6, 6hat do youthink of this processI

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    )rabhup/da. 0hat is another thing, ualitative change 5ut if, there are five elements 2t ismade of fire, that4s all -s your body is made of earth, that sun globe or sun god4s body ismade of fire 0here are other planets also, the body is made of air 5ecause you do notfind more than these five elements:earth, 6ater, air, fire, skygross and subtle:mind,intelligence +o, subtle, the same gross, some6here fire is prominent, some6here 6ater is

    prominent, air is prominent, some6here earth is prominent +o here in this 6orld, in thisplanet, the earth is prominent

    Huest. +o, there is a distinction bet6een permanent and the eternalI

    Morning Walk March 1(, 1!%(, 0ehran.

    ?evotee. ;n this earth, on this planet

    Huest. ;n this planet

    ?evotee. earth is prominent amongst the five elements

    )rabhup/da. Whole 6orld, 6hole universe, they are made of these five elements

    ?evotee. KindistinctL of the five elements

    Huest. What is the fifth besides earth, air, fire and 6aterI

    )rabhup/da. @uhI

    Huest. What is the fifth element after earth, air, fire and 6aterI

    )rabhup/da. Nther

    >oom Conversation 6ith Eim Cornish May #, 1!%(, )erth.

    )rabhup/da. 2 have given the e7ample ust like this sunshine is coming from the sunglobe Within the sun globe there is the president of the planet ust like here on thisplanet you have got some president @ere there are many presidents, because it ishodgepodge, chaotic 5ut there everything is systematic 0here is one person, his name is8ivasv/n @e4s the predominating deity Ea 6ent to see him and talked 6ith himabout 5hagavadgAt/ @e4s a person, and there the people, they are also persons ust like

    in this planet 5ut here the body is predominantly made of earth, and there the body ispredominantly of fire 0herefore it is so glo6ing 0he glo6ing temperature, heat andlight, is coming from the person, their body is made of glo6ing heat or fire 0here arefive material elements. earth, 6ater, fire, air, and ether 2n some planet the earth isprominent, in some planet the 6ater is prominent, in some planets the fire is prominent

    >oom Conversation 6ith 06o =a6yers and Huest May $$, 1!%(, Melbourne.

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    )rabhup/da. 0hat is called m/y/ 0his is m/y/ 0he philosophy of m/y/, m/y/ means6hat is not M/y/ M/ means not, y/ means this +o m/y/ means the conclusion, as youhave made, that is not 0hat is not the fact +o 6e are claiming, "-merica is our","-ustralia is our", "2ndia is our" Gothing our Nverything Hod4s 0he best conclusion is,"2t is Hod4s property Hod has given us to live =et us thank Hod, feel obliged to @im, and

    glorify @im" 0hat is our vision 0hat is Ea consciousness movement Bou accept thereal position, that nothing belongs to you, everything belongs to Hod Bou also belong toHod Bour body, yourself, everything belongs to Hod 0his body is material body 0hatmaterial energy, earth, 6ater, air, fire:everything belongs to Hod 0his sea belongs toHod, 6ater, vast 6ater Bou have not created, neither your forefather has created +o thisbody is made of earth, 6ater, air, fire, five elements +o your, the body is also Hod4s

    Morning Walk une $, 1!%(, @onolulu.

    )rabhup/da. -nd Mosco6 +ea 0hey pitched one flag in the moon planet and namedMosco6 +ea Bes

    2ndian man. ust like you said that this moon and other planets are also made of these fiveelements:earth, 6ater, fire, ether:they brought a rock from there +o they are acceptingthat the moon is made of those elements also 5ut they are not accepting that life is there

    )rabhup/da. Go, they4ll not accept 0herefore therefore fools WhyI 0he circumstanceis the same Why there should be no lifeI 0hat is foolishness We have got e7perience-s soon as there is 6ater, there is life -s soon as there is land, there is life -s soon asthere is air, there is life +o 6here is lifeI Go life

    >oom Conversation 6ith ?r ohn MiDe une $&, 1!%(, =os -ngeles.

    )rabhup/da. Bes Bes Mind is there also 0hat is spiritual mind Nverything is spiritual0here is nothing material 5ody spiritual, mind spiritual, intelligence spiritual, he isspiritual, the land spiritual, 6ater spiritual:everything is spiritual 0hat is spiritual6orld @ere in the material 6orld, e7cept the spirit soul, everything is material -nd he isencumbered 6ith this material atmosphere by t6entyseven stratas, layers 0he fiveelements, gross elements, then ten senses, and then three guas 2n this 6ay there aret6entyseven layers @e is 6ithin, and he has to be taken out 0hat is called liberationust like if you are covered 6ith t6entyseven layers of dirty things, so it is very difficultposition 5ut there is process to clear the garbage and take him out 0hat is Eaconscious movement, to take the soul out of the covering of t6entyseven layers of

    material atmosphere>oom Conversation 6ith ?r ohn MiDe une $&, 1!%(, =os -ngeles.

    5ahul/Ova. )rabhup/da, in the 0hirteenth Chapter of 5hagavadgAt/, "Gature, Nn*oyer,and Consciousness," in verse number si7 and seven you mention those t6entysevencoverings. "0he five great elements, false ego, intelligence, the unmanifest, the tensenses, the mind, the five sense ob*ects, desire, hate, happiness, and distress, the

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    aggregate, the life symptoms and convictions:all these are considered, in summary, tobe the field of activities and their interaction" -nd

    )rabhup/da. 5y the material life, these are our field of activities 0he body is acombination of all these things ust like a huge computer machine 2t is made of these

    material things, but the mechanical parts are very minute, different -ll these are matter5ut 6ithin this matter, because the soul is there, therefore the finest machine is 6orkingust like your composition machine, Kimitates machine.L "Eut, kut, kut, kut, kut, kut" 5utone has to push the button< other6ise useless @o6ever very nicely made the machine,6ithout a living being4s touch, it is useless +o all this big machine, body, is 6onderful solong the soul is there -nd as soon as the soul is out it is lump of matter, useless, not6orth a penny

    Morning Walk uly $1, 1!%(, +an 9rancisco.

    )rabhup/da. Why notI 9ire is also one of the elements like 6ater and earth +o if there is

    life in the 6ater, life on the earth, 6hy not in the fireI What is this logicI5ahul/Ova. -ctually, everything is burning Nven this body is also on fire

    )rabhup/da. Go, the material ingredients, five elements ;ut of the five elements, fire isone of them +o if in the four elements there are life, 6hy not in the fifthI @o6 do yousayI 0hat is their ignorance

    ?evotee K&L. Bou say even in the O/stra, )rabhup/da, that there4s so many living entitiesin this body 2t4s evident

    1976 Conversations and Morning Walks

    Morning Walk March 1, 1!%, Mayapura.

    )rabhup/da. 0hen 6hat is the use of that machineI What is the use of that machineINveryone kno6s that it is air Go6 air is stopped 0hat is my re*ectKIL 5ring that airagain 0here is ample air 5ring that machine +imply +imilarly, if you analyDe the6hole body, it is confirmed, you 6ill find these five elements, that 4s all, earth, 6ater, air,fire, sky 0hat4s all

    0am/la Ea. 0hat4s scientific Go one denies that

    )rabhup/da. Bes 0hey 6hy don4t you create a bodyI What is your scienceI

    )ua Ea. Bou4ve *ust pointed out. the body may already be there, but they cannotreplace the life Nven a body is already created, like a dead body, but they can4t bring lifeback into it

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    )rabhup/da. Go, no We do not find in the 6ater, in the air, in the fire the five elements,you do not find there is life +o 6hat is this, that life forceI 0hey are trying to prove thatcombination of this, there is life, but actually by analytical study 6e don4t find life 0hefirst e7ample is this breathing Nveryone is under the impression that breathing is life +o6hen the breathing is stopped, the air is stopped ust make some artificial 6ay of

    breathing, bring life

    Badubara. 0hey may say that that is only one aspect

    )rabhup/da. Nvery aspect you say, rascal Bou take 6ater, take fire Where is lifeI ustlike heat, heat in the body @eat is fire +o everything you take 6hich constitutes thisbody, analyDe separately and find out life, 6here is life

    Badubara. 5ut they may say that a combination produces

    >oom Conversation -pril $3, 1!%, Melbourne.

    )rabhup/da. Gothing -rtificial blood +uperficially it is red 6ater +o if red 6ater isthe life, then 6hy you are spoiling so much bloodI Eeep it scientifically and push it intothe dead body 2 say it is, that 6ay, it is the red 6ater, nothing but red 6ater Frine is6hite 6ater 2 am coming to the five elements, air, 6ater 0hen 6hat is this boneINarth Bou can manufacture bone, hard bone, 6ith earth or 6ood or something plastic +o6e are analyDing the combination of the body, so everything you can manufacture 5ut6here is the life you can manufactureI Why do you sayI 0hat is our challenge -ll theingredients of the body you can manufacture e7actly like that Fltimately you can givethe beauty also of the 6oman or the man 5ut 6here is lifeI 5ring life by all these things0hen 2 6ill say that you are scientist ;ther6ise cheater, simply bluffing people 0his

    thing should be stopped Where you get the information that this, from matter life ispossible

    >oom Conversation -pril $3, 1!%, Melbourne.

    )rabhup/da. Bes, this is the message, that people are under the impression that one is thisbody, but that is not the fact 0he soul, or the man, he is 6ithin the body ust like you arenot your, this shirt and coat Bou are 6ithin the shirt and coat +imilarly, the living entity,the living being, is 6ithin this body, the gross body and the subtle body 0he subtle bodyis composed of mind, intelligence and ego, and the gross body is a composition of thesematerial things, earth, 6ater, air, fire, like that, five elements -ltogether, eight elements

    0his is inferior energy -nd the superior energy is 6ithin these eight elements, five grossand three subtle +o 6e have to study about that thing ust like 2 asked that boy that "Boucan manufacture a huge machine, flying in the sky, %'%, but 6hy don4t you manufacturethe pilotI"

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    )rabhup/da. =ago/ means the loincloth +o 6hat is it you have given upI -nd youcannot give up your body 0his is made, this kitir apte*omarudvyoma, KindistinctLthese five elements, they4re also Ea4s Bou have got mind ;h, that belongs to EaWhat you have got that you4ll give upI Bou have stolen everything Bou don4t accept thereal proprietor, and you are thinking, "2 am the proprietor" 0hat is your fault 0hat is

    miscreant +tena eva sa ucyate K5H &1$L 2t is said there >ead 5hagavadgAt/ carefully,that everyone is a thief +tena eva sa ucyate -ll thiefs, rogues, rascals 0hat is thesubstance 2f one does not accept Hod, the +upreme, and does not surrender, he ismiscreant, mJha MJha @e does not kno6 6hat does he possess, and he4s thinking, "2am giving up" What you are giving upI Bou do not possess anything - mJha, falselythinking that "2 am giving up"

    Morning Walk une #, 1!%, =os -ngeles.

    )rabhup/da. +o ho6 the fishes are born in the 6aterI @o6 the other living entities, theyremain in the airI ;r 6ithout airI 0here are five elements. earth, 6ater, fire, air

    -ny6here, the living entities can take birth +arvaga +th/ur sarvagataacalo 4yamBou read all these 6ords of 5hagavadgAt/ +arvaga 9rom any6here, he can take birth

    ?evotee. ?o the living entities 6ho are born from perspiration reuire a mother andfatherI

    )rabhup/da. Go Go 0here is mother 0hat perspiration is mother

    >/dh/vallabha. +o the reason 6hy they get a particular body

    >oom Conversation 6ith Mother and +ons une 1&, 1!%, ?etroit .

    )rabhup/da. 0o understand Hod, a simple method +imple method to ust like the earthis there, everybody kno6s -nd from the earth different varieties of living entities arecoming 0he grass is coming, the plant is coming, then insects are coming, flies arecoming, then by eating the grass or flies, the bigger animals are coming or they4ree7isting 0ake for fourlegged animals, they are eating the grass, the plants +o they areliving, their generation is going on 0hen the human being is coming by evolution +oany6ay, ultimately, they are coming from the earth 2s it notI 2s there any difficultyI +o6e are coming from the earth or 6ater or air, fire, there are five elements 0herefore onthe total material elements is our mother 0he mother means 6herefrom one comes @e4syour child because his body has come from your body Nveryone kno6s it +o every

    living being is coming out of this earth in different forms Go6 if it is established, themother is the earth and everything that is coming out of mother, they are children, then6here is fatherI 2s it not the ne7t inuiryI

    >oom Conversation With +cientists uly , 1!%, Washington, ?C.

    >Jp/nuga. Maybe a hundred seventyfive We can check reference book easily Bou4llfind out today

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    +varJpa ?/modara. PrAla )rabhup/da, 6e 6ant to make a chart Go6 from these grosselements, the five gross elements, 6e 6ant to e7tend to

    )rabhup/da. Narth, 6ater, air, fire

    +varJpa ?/modara. 9rom there 6e 6ant to include the, let4s say this table, ninetyt6o,6hat scientists call elements, this gold, silver, copper, all these elements

    )rabhup/da. Bes, that is 6ithin earth

    +varJpa ?/modara. 5ut 6e are thinking that not only earth, but the 6ater, air

    >oom Conversation With +cientists uly , 1!%, Washington, ?C.

    )rabhup/da. Narth is the reservoir of all elements -s you go from earth to 6ater, one isminus 9rom 6ater, you go to fire, one is again minus 2n this 6ay, 6hen you go up,

    ether, there is only one -nd earth contains all the five

    +varJpa ?/modara. -ll the five gross elements

    )rabhup/da. Bes

    +varJpa ?/modara. +o actually 6e can use *ust from earth all these ninetyt6o elements,like silver, gold

    )rabhup/da. Bes, that is in the earth +o many varieties of mi7ture

    >Jp/nuga. Go6 is there an atom for eachI 2s there a copper atomI

    >oom Conversation With +cientists uly , 1!%, Washington, ?C.

    +varJpa ?/modara. -ctually, in 6ater also, all these, most of these earth materials arethere, because it dissolves in 6ater Water is so many salts and elements, in a dissolvedform

    )rabhup/da. 0hat 2 told you, that in the earth all other five elements are there

    >Jp/nuga. +o 6ater precedes earth in the creation Water comes first

    )rabhup/da. Go, ether

    >Jp/nuga. 2 mean 6ater comes before earth Narth is last, and 6ater is *ust before +othat 6e find earth in 6ater

    )rabhup/da. Water it dries up

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    )ua Ea. @e4s saying you can find earth in 6ater

    >oom Conversation With +cientists uly , 1!%, Washington, ?C.

    )rabhup/da. 5ecause 2 am not scientist KlaughterL ust like 2 captured immediately,

    common sense

    +varJpa ?/modara. 2n one of the articles in 5ack to Hodhead, 2 think ?harm/dhyaka,he uses different 6ords for these five elements +o 6e are going to use these elements inour book also, so 6e 6onder, he says for fire "radiant energy" instead of fire 2 think itmay sound little more

    >Jp/nuga. 0hey think this is so simplistic, you kno6, mythologicaltype breakdo6n,oversimplification +o he used different 6ords, fire he said "radiant energy," 6ater hesaid "liuidity" What did he say for earthI "+olid matter" he said for earth, and air, "gas"-nd 6hat did he say for etherI "+pace" +o 6e thought, 6e 6ere 6ondering if these 6ere

    acceptable terms to use

    >oom Conversation uly , 1!%, Washington, ?C.

    )rabhup/da. Mahattattva is differentiated

    >Jp/nuga. ?ifferent categoriesI

    +varJpa ?/modara. 0he time element is there in mahattattva, so it is already t6entyfiveelements there including time -t this stage also, the impregnation of the =ord4s internalpotency means that the *Avas are already impregnated here from pradh/na +o here the

    living entities are in pure goodness)rabhup/da. 0he living entities are al6ays in pure goodness 0his material covering isseparated 0he living entities can be freed from material covering at any moment ustlike 6ater and oil, it is al6ays separated, it does not mi7 0he 8edic mantra also saysasago 4yapurua -ctually, it is not mi7ed, but it is covered 0hat covering can betaken a6ay at any moment simply by Ea consciousness +a gu/n samatAtyait/nbrahmabhJy/ya kalpate K5H 1'$L 2 think in 9irst Canto, that description you try tounderstand, you4ll get

    >oom Conversation uly , 1!%, Washington, ?C.

    )rabhup/da. Go, no -ll the living conditions are there in the matter, provided there is theliving being, that4s all ust like a dead body, it is not that the living condition is finished,no 0he living conditions are there 0hat particular soul has left that body 5ut the deadbody is also full of ingredients of living condition +o many germs are coming out 6henthe body is decomposed Bou say decomposition, but even in that decomposed conditionthere is living condition +o the living conditions are already there, matter in any form +oho6 these rascals say there is no life in the moon planetI 0hat is not possible 0he living

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    conditions are al6ays there in the matter 0his is the e7ample Go6, a decomposed body,the living being has left, no6 it is dead matter, but still, the living beings are coming out@o6 it isI 0hat means matter has al6ays the potency to give shelter to the living entity+o it is impossible that there is no living being in the moon planet 2t is bogus We cannotaccept it -ny condition there is provision for the living beings We see actually, in the

    earth, in the air, in the 6ater, in the fire, these five elements Whatever you take, thesefive elements in different proportions +o the living, *ust like from perspiration livingentities come out 2t is impossible there is no living entities 0hat is bogus complete Boucan challenge like that

    1977 Conversations and Morning Walks

    Morning Walk 9ebruary 1, 1!%%, 5huvanesvara.

    )rabhup/da. Ea says, "nonphysical" Gainachindanti Oastr/i nainadahatip/vaka, nainaOoayati /paK5H $$&L Nverything, five elements, material 2t has

    nothing to do 6ith these five elements, clearly said in the 5hagavadgAt/ 2t is beyondthis @ere 6hatever you find is kitir /pate*amarud vyom/. earth, 6ater, air, fire0hat4s all 5ut beyond that, it is not physical -nd at last, na hanyate hanyam/ne OarAreK5H $$3L Nverything is there +o 2 6as confident in the statement of 5hagavadgAt/0herefore 2 strongly stressed, "0his is all 6rong" 2 believed completely in the 6ords ofEa 0hat4s all 2 never e7perimented 5ut 2 kno6 6hat Ea says is completelyright

    >oom Conversation about 50H the Moon 9ebruary 1#, 1!%%, Mayapura .

    )rabhup/da. What is your, your practical e7I Bou are rascal Bou have no practical

    e7perience 2f there is life in the 6ater, if there is life in the air, if there is life 6ithin theearth, 6hy not in the fireI 2t is also one of the elements Why you discard only fireI0here are five elements. earth, 6ater, air, fire, ether +o if there is life in the earth, in the6ater, in the air, in the ether, 6hat fire has done there should be no lifeI

    @ariOauri. 5ut 6e see 0he 6ater4s here 0he earth4s here We see the life in there Weagree

    )rabhup/da. Bour seeing is imperfect

    @ariOauri. 5ut the fire is here, and there4s no life in the fire

    >oom Conversation 6ith -dikesava +6ami 9ebruary 1!, 1!%%, Mayapura .

    )rabhup/da. 2t is condemned My position is different Why shall 2 dieI 0he rascals, theyagree to die We do not agree to die We 6ant to come to our original position, no moredeath 0his is our motto, because 6e get information from the 5hagavadgAt/, na hanyatehanyam/ne OarAre K5H $$3L 2 do not die on account of my material body mi7ed up"?ust thou art< dust thou beist" 0his body is made of five elements. earth, 6ater, air, fire,

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    ether -nd this is my gross body 0he gross body is finished, but my mental, subtle body:mind, intelligence:that is not yet finished 0hat is carrying me to another body ustlike 6e have got practical e7perience 2 am sitting here, you are sitting here Mind carriesme to Ge6 Bork, and 2 am no6 dreaming or thinking 2 am sitting in that room andtalking 6ith somebody 2 have forgotten this, but 2t is practical -lthough 2 am sitting

    here, 2 have forgotten it, and 2 am 6orking, thinking myself that 2 am in Ge6 Bork+imilarly, in dream my body is on the bed 2 am thinking 2 am on the @imalayan top

    Nvening ?arsana 9ebruary $, 1!%%, Mayapura.

    )rabhup/da. -kledya, that 0he 6ood, if you put into the 6ater, it 6ill be moist 5ut itis not +oul never becomes moist 0hat means the five elements:earth, 6ater, air, fire,ether:all these five elements can be cut, can be moistened, can be burned, can be driedup 5ut he is giving negative definition that "+oul cannot be done like that" +o thereforeit is not fallible, material

    2ndian K&L. Will you preach to your HAt/ KbreakL)rabhup/da. K@indiL 0he people cannot accept KlaughsL 0herefore 2 said, dhAras tatra namuhyati K5H $1&L

    0am/la Ea. 0hey4re too restless

    >oom Conversation March $, 1!%%, 5ombay.

    )rabhup/da. +o you cannot deny, "0here is no Hod" 0hat is not possible 0he earth is themother 0hey say "mother country," "mother earth" -nd everything is coming out from

    the earth 5eginning from the auatic animals, grass, they are coming from materialelements, either from 6ater or from earth 0hat 6e can see -nd they are coming fromfire also, but 6e cannot see 5ut they are 2t is common sense 2f life can come from6ater, fire 9ire is also one of the elements, five elements +o from fire also 0hereforeit is said, nainadahati p/vaka 5ecause it is coming from fire, therefore fire cannotharm the living entity +o mother is there, children are there Where is the fatherI 0his isthe logic -nd the father is coming personally, "Bes, 2 am father" -habA*apradapit/K5H 1''L 0hen 6here is the chance for denying the e7istence of fatherI Go

    Nvening ?arsana May !, 1!%%, @rishikesh.

    )rabhup/da. K@indiL KlaughterL -nd 6e 6ant to be happy 0rit/payantana,KIL threetypes of miseries, are al6ays there +o Ea, 6hen took charge of teaching him, thefirst lesson 6as that "-r*una, you have talked like a very learned man, but you are notlearned"

    aOocy/n anvaOocas tvapra*Q/v/d/O ca bh/asegat/sJn agat/sJO ca

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    n/nuOocanti pait/K5H $11L

    "Bou are taking care of the body, 6hich is a lump of matter, combination of fiveelements:earth, 6ater, air, fire:and you are concerned 6ith this nonsense matter Bou

    have no information of the real thing -nd you are talking as a learnedI" 0his is thefirst -nd then @e said that "-ctual person is 6ithin the body" ?ehino 4smin yath/ dehekaum/rayauvanam K5H $1&L +o as 6e are changing body in this status, fromchildhood to boyhood, boyhood to youthhood, similarly, 6hen you give up this body, youget another body

    Conversations 6ith Eirtana Hroups May $!, 1!%%, 8rndavana.

    )rabhup/da. Nvery6here there are these 0hese rascals, they do not kno6 Nverything isthere, every planet

    +varJpa ?/modara. 0he five gross elements is present all the

    )rabhup/da. Eitir /po 4nalo v/yu Must Kaside.L Hive me Hive me that

    2ndian devotee K'L. +till do6nI

    )rabhup/da. @m KbreakL Nvery6here there is life, there is everything, varieties @ere yousee in the 6ater there is life, in the land there is life, in the air there is life, 6ithin thesilicate there is life +o many, many millions 0hese crabs What is calledI

    +varJpa ?/modara. Crab

    )rabhup/da. @o6 they are livingI -s soon as you 6alk, they go 6ithin the sand

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