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Messenger: zionI Sent: 10/18/2006 8:34:06 PM

Iman am with Bro. D. Y. Anbesa on this one.

The Kazars, from the region of Poland, Russia, came out of the

10th century, adopted Judaism and are the modern-day so-called

Jews.

True Israelites from the Middle East (including Yeshua) would

likely have had the complexion and physical attributes of their

cousins the Arabs and, of course, the Ethiopians, who are very

close, regionally. InI must ask how it is that those fair skinned,

blue-eyed people in the West and in Israel today have come to

claim they are the Israelites (i.e. sons of Jacob). Iman think not.

Their's is the "impostor Zion" which is wreaking havoc on this

earth.

Hail Ras Tafari.

Messenger: Dreadnut Sent: 10/18/2006 8:39:43 PM

Funny how noone answered my questions.


How long do we deny the African Origin of Civilization?

How long do we deny the African Origin of Western Civilization?

How long do we deny the African Origin of Judaism, Christianity,

and Islam?

This isn't anti semitism. This is Pro Black thought and upliftment

through Black African Philosophy and History.

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I have presented a argument with facts, dates, and reference.

This is why they don't want you messing with Kemet! This is why

they whitewash Egypt! This is why the make Egypt look demonic!

Why you think they make those movies with the evil mummy?

Why does Kemet, which was called the Light of this World before

any bible, seem to get the butt end of stories in the bible?

Because according to history and its record of judgement, the

bibles kemetic opinion is in the minority.

Trying to go about African history with telling the true story of

Kemet, is like trying to talk about Europe without Greece and

Rome! In other words completly impossible!

We need to go back before the Bible, we need to understand that

the Bible is patirarchal and made to suit men. Don't believe me?

The Bible says, Thou shall not covet thy neighbors wife right?

Please if you can find the commandment that says, Thou shall not

covet thy neighbors husband. Not only that but if you read the

biblical version of this commandment its doesn't end at wife but

continues with , "nor his ox, or his ass." The woman was being

listed amongst the other items. She was higher then the cow but

not as high as the man. The laws were written to men for men.

Then the other commandment says, Thou shall not commit

adultry. Well it sounds good on paper, but you gotta tell me what

'adultry' means when your living in a polygamist world, meaning

more than one wife. Remember the wiset king in the world, the

Sun three times Sol-om-on. How many wives did he have again?

1000 wives! So please some one explain what adultry means if

you can have more than one wife? Also how many other charaters

had more than one wife?

Abdon Abijah Abraham Ahab Ahasuerus

Ashur Belshazzar Benhadad Caleb David

Eliphaz Elkanah Esau Ezra Gideon

Heman Hosea Ibzan Issachar Jacob

Jair Jehoiachin Jehoram Jerahmeel Joash

Lamech Machir Manasseh Mered Moses

Nahor Rehoboam Saul Shaharaim Shimei

Simeon Solomon Terah Zedekiah Ziba

Kemet was a matriarchal system. Its concept derived from the

cycle of the mother, the goddess. Thats why in the reliefs in

Kemet we see the mothers standing behind the Kings with a small

version of the throne on her head, because no man could come to

earth let alone the throne without coming through his mother.

And if we are going to be so full throttle on charging Egypt with

slavery involvement then the "holy" hebrew is guily and not only

guilty but FIRST! Don't you remember?

How did Joesph(OT) get into Egypt?

A. Bus

B. Train

C. Sold to the Ishmealites by his brothers as a slave. Gen 38:23-

28

23] And it came to pass, when Joseph was come unto his



brethren, that they stript Joseph out of his coat, his coat of many

colours that was on him;

[28] Then there passed by Midianites merchantmen; and they

drew and lifted up Joseph out of the pit, and sold Joseph to the

Ishmeelites for twenty pieces of silver: and they brought Joseph

into Egypt.

Well I'm going to pick C. And mind you that happened two

centuries before Moses existed!

And now here comes the rational.

When the Kemetic people built the Major Pyramids, they had

already been built by the end of the 6th Century BC! Thats 2470-

2270 BC! So even if the Israelites were slaves and were building

anything it wasn't until the 19th Dynasty 1555-1340 BC!

The Grande lodge of Luxor in Thebes is where Moses became an

innitiate of the Mystery System of Kemet and became a part of

the "Inner circle, or cabinent" of Ramses! His title in Egypt was

Priest or Heirogrammat, which means that he studied under

kemetic priests for over 40 years and worshipped the God Amen

Ra! Even the Bible declares,

ACTS vii, 22. And Moses was learned in all the Wisdom of the

Egyptians, and was mighty in Words and Deeds.

HUH! What he learn there? Some evil Pagan shit that magically

transformed into mighty words and deeds?

This is also supported by Philo of Alexandria, the man we get the

word philosophy. And he was born in Alexandria, Egypt the same

place where Jesus delivers most of his sermons in Egypt. Who is

Philo of Alexandria, lets see

Philo (20 BC - 40), known also as Philo of Alexandria and as Philo

Judeaus, was a Hellenized Jewish philosopher born in Alexandria,

Egypt. The few biographical details concerning him are found in

his own works, especially in Legatio ad Caium, ("embassy to

Caius") and in Josephus (Antiquities" xviii. 8, § 1; comp. ib. xix. 5,

§ 1; xx. 5, § 2).

Wikipedia

Moses according to the story was leading slaves, not intellctuals

like himself. They didn't study in the Grand Lodge of Luxor and

recieve their final degree in the Pyramid of Khufu. Moses could tell

them anything.

Not only that but the pyramids and reliefs that stand still today in

Egypt are the greatest in the world and they still stand today! The

Kemetic people knew they were building the worlds greatest

monuments and demonstaring a building science and math that

we today still dont even understand and you want to tell me that

Kemet was willing to give this credit to slaves? They gave away all

their secret building knowledge and techniques to slaves whom

according to the Bibles account, Kemet hated? This is the

mythology! This is bullshit! History proves that Kemetic but alone.

The people of Kemet were literally overwhelmed with excitement

trying to be a part of those structures. They already had an



overwhelming amount of people who wanted to build the worlds

greatest structures and first above and below ground buildings out

of carved rock, THEY DIDN'T NEED SLAVES.

So what right? Lets just keep blaiming Egyptians for something

that never even happened and keep this horrible stigma on Kemet

wether its the exodus story or anyother "egypt slave stories."

There has never been a time when Kemetic people enslaved

anyone. Anytime slavery was induced in Kemet was when foreign

inveders had taken over at the time and never had anything to do

with the indigonous peoples themselves.

There has never been a time in Kemetic history when outside

visitors have come into Kemet and not been greeted with respect

and hospitality.

I love Black People! I love Africa and African teachings. I am a

Rastafarian and I want Black Liberation and that starts with the

mind!

Please prove me wrong! I invite it.

Messenger: FarI-Sight Sent: 10/19/2006 6:00:34 AM

What is a Rastaman meddling in Kemet Business. A RastaMan

know that before Kemet was Ethiopia, so with all this kemet

ideology how does your reverence for Haile I Selassie I, who is the

same King David for this manifestation at yet a higher exalted

level than David of Anciency, and yet the Same Man who is the

Almighty God.

No doubt Kemet history has been whitewashed, no doubt it was a

great civilisation, yet Ethiopian Royal Nation Wealth Kingdom was

before and even more mesmerising. Check deeper My Lord and

you will find that the Kemetic Pharaoahs and Priests said Yea, we

come from the Source of the Blue Nile and that is where we learnt

our Sciences, Arts and Spirituality from.

Think with your own heavens, not mutabaruka propoganda, or

whatever you hear from a next blackman, probably you are a

European man still, yet do not misinterpret for your white skin

doesnt have much of a difference in this matter.One must be wise

when gathering info from external sources, always enquire your

Self of Self, as one is highly liable to be drunk with knowledge.

I and I stand firm for the knowledge of Ethiopia being the First

World, but Babylon has erased all memorials so noone can find

any trace of it except the Stellae and a few other tings, they left

what they wanted Black People to see, the Sister, or even Child of

Ethiopian Civilisation.

Another thing is that Moses performed Godly works that amazed

His teachers in kemet, and I will show you that Moses is the same

Almighty God in flesh.



Holy Emmanuel I, Selassie I, Jah Rastafari

Ethiopia Royal Wealth Nation Kingdom

5th Kingdom of Jes-us Stand for Equality and Justice

Holy King Emmanuel 7th is the Black Christ in Flesh, the God of

Truth and Rights, Nothing came before the 3 in 1 who is 1 in 3

Messenger: Bro Dominiq

Yehyah Anbesa

Sent: 10/19/2006 9:24:21 AM

Ises

My Lord FarI, was the Brethren Dreadnut not in your "teaching

influence"? as it seemed over the board here.... so maybe the I

Priest could explain what this is all about?

Dreadnut, I see where you are standing, and I see the agressive

attitudes through the words. That is why I am not going further

on that niveau. Well you proofed tough enuff to use the word

shit... and you don't get that your fire blazing has always burnt

your own fingers till I n I read from you on this board.

And I can't see how a youth can be that un-humble... maybe you

remember yourself burning hate fire pon the Bobo.... and then

maybe you remember yourself burning agressive fire against all

Bobo "opponents" just some time later. And now what is the next

you deem worth of agression?

I don't get it.... how can someone show off his own youthful

incompetence in such a rude manner? And that every little time?

Maybe this will get you even more agressive... but I did not recall

all this things to expose you or something like that. But I guess

what I try to show you.... is not to expose yourself everytime you

feel that you found a new toy to boast with.

Iman am not going to discuss the historical authencity of the bible

here, as I do not see any serious attempt.... all I see is agressive

boasting round... I am a professional scholar of theology and bible

history and will enroll university as such. I deal on historical

authentic bases. That is why you will understand, it has already,

and will take books over books to discuss that topic to the

fullness. and I am not going to heat my temper in unserious half

knowledge.

Every african scholar will understand what I meant when calling

kemet pagan. And every ROYAL BLACK ITHIOPIAN will understand

when I say.... when I n I Ivine Arc of the Covenant royal seat of

heavenly Zion passed Egypt and all idol broke in peaces. HAILE I

POWER

Africa is more than Kemet... and Civilisation flew DOWN the river

nile. Israel is Ethiopia first black Nation on Earth. Nothing is

before... the true Black Kingdom of creation.



It is very good that a white youth is doing african research, and

also good that you are identifying with it. But maybe you should

watch out not to get trapped by your own color-complexes.

With all due love

misinterpretation of my words is intended provocation with which

I n I have no time to deal

Selah

Messenger: Ras Sistren Khamyl

Sent: 10/19/2006 11:03:27 AM

Dreadnut: selah!

RSK


What? No African scholar is going to tell you about Egypt being

Pagan, that is fool talk! None of you can even address one of my

points, not even one!

Go ask Chancoller Williams, John Hedrik Clark, Dr. Ben Yosef,

Ashra Kwesi, John Jackson, go read Wonderful Ethiopians and the

Ancient Kushite Empire.... The black men who have already and

and still strugling to get the real message to thier people. And so

far its been mostly whites who fight me.

Far I sight, if you read my post you will see that I clearly stated,

EGYPT IS ETHIOPIAS OLDEST DAUGHTER!

And this has nothing to do with me burning Bobo Ashanti, I hail

Emmanuel because Emmanuel taught that the Black Man was God

P'tahm and that His heavenly home is in Ethiopia.

This is history, carved into rocks thousands of years before Moses.

SO PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTIONS

you guys answer questions and theories like the Bush

Administration!

Is this attitude tough? Or amybe others aren't tough enough. I am

tired of seeing the black mans history stolen from him!

I am tired of hearing about harim abif and solomon, I want to

hear about Imhotep!

It seems you all still think Egypt is sunnworshipers?

YOU CAN NOT TALK ABOUT AFRICAN HISTORY WITHOUT EGYPT



OR ETHIOPIA, THATS LIKE TRYING TO GO ABOUT EUROPEAN

HISTORY WITHOUT GREECE OR ROME.


And Far I sight, mutabaruka is hardly my influence, not at all.

I want African people to be able to look in the mirror and absolutly

LOVE what they see. The only way my honky ass can ever hope to

see that is to take the True story of the Royal Black African to my

people and crush those oppressive stories!

And though I sound pissed, I am. But not at any of you all. You

guys aren't the ones re writing the books and stealing the history.

I am not able to just put out some facts, I am a living being and I

speak with passion on the Black man and his suffering. I get

excited, I even raise my voice sometimes. Don't take it personal.

Messenger: White dread Sent: 10/19/2006 2:11:18 PM

My brother dreadnut

To make people understand love, spread love en "sprinkle" love

over your words.

You have (maybe) given all of your "proof" (I'm not sure if it is

proof) about the KMT of egyptians, nothing else to say. More

words that will be said will probaly escaltate this reasoning and

then there will be not much love to be found, What was probally

your main goal. I appricate that your want to share your

knowlegde with us. For knowlegde is power. Reason with love and

stop using "bad" words like shit. That is for people who feel that

they can't handle the situation.

Still with love

White Dread


This is all my proof?

Maybe I'm still waiting for answers to my very first question?



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