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The SuperCable: Dual Delivery of Chemical and Electric Power Paul M. Grant EPRI Science Fellow (retired) IBM Research Staff Member Emeritus Principal, W2AGZ Technologies [email protected] www.w2agz.com Applied Superconductivity Conference 2004 3-8 October 2004, Jacksonville, FL Session: HTS Power Cables – III Paper: 1LT06, Monday 4 October 2004, 5:30 PM

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Page 1: ASC 2004 Talk (Monday) 2004 Talk (Monday).pdf · Reading Assignment 1. Garwin and Matisoo, 1967 (100 GW on Nb3Sn) 2. Bartlit, Edeskuty and Hammel, 1972 (LH2, LNG and 1 GW on LTSC)

The SuperCable:Dual Delivery of Chemical and Electric Power

Paul M. GrantEPRI Science Fellow (retired)

IBM Research Staff Member EmeritusPrincipal, W2AGZ Technologies

[email protected]

Applied Superconductivity Conference 20043-8 October 2004, Jacksonville, FLSession: HTS Power Cables – III

Paper: 1LT06, Monday 4 October 2004, 5:30 PM

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“The Great Communicator”

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Earth at Night - 2000

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Earth at Night - 2050

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“The Present Grid”

Wired Magazine, June 2001

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Californication!

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Reading Assignment1. Garwin and Matisoo, 1967 (100 GW on Nb3Sn)2. Bartlit, Edeskuty and Hammel, 1972 (LH2, LNG and

1 GW on LTSC)3. Haney and Hammond, 1977 (Slush LH2 and Nb3Ge)4. Schoenung, Hassenzahl and Grant, 1987 (5 GW on

HTSC, 1000 km)5. Grant, 2002 (SuperCity, Nukes+LH2+HTSC)6. Proceedings, SuperGrid Workshop, 2002

These articles, and much more, can be found at www.w2agz.com, sub-pages SuperGrid/Bibliography

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Past & Future Energy Supply

Year (Modern Era)

Rel

ativ

e U

nits

Fission

Hydrogen

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The Hydrogen Economy

• You have to make it, just like electricity• Electricity can make H2, and H2 can make

electricity (2H2O 2H2 + O2)• You have to make a lot of it• You can make it cold, - 419 F (21 K)

P.M. Grant, “Hydrogen lifts off…with a heavy load,” Nature 424, 129 (2003)

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P.M. Grant, The Industrial Physicist, Feb/March Issue, 2002

SupermarketSchool Home

Family Car

DNA-to-order.com

Nuclearplant

H2

H2

HTSC/MgB2

SuperCity

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Diablo Canyon

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California Coast Power

Diablo Canyon2200 MWPower Plant

Wind FarmEquivalent

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Co-Production of Hydrogen and Electricity

Source: INEL & General Atomics

ReactorVessel

O2

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Source: General Atomics

Nuclear “Hydricity” Production Farm

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“Hydricity” SuperCables

+v I-v

I

H2 H2

Circuit #1 +v I-v

I

H2 H2

Circuit #2

Multiple circuitscan be laid in single trench

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SuperCable MonopoleHV Insulation

“Super-Insulation”

Superconductor

Hydrogen

DO

DH2

tsc

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Electric & H2 Power

0.12525,000100,000+/- 50001000

Annular Wall Thickness

(cm)

Critical Current Density (A/cm2)

Current (A)Voltage (V)Power (MW)

Electricity

3183.8110500

“Equivalent” Current Density

(A/cm2)

H2 Flow Rate (m/sec)

Inner Pipe Diameter, DH2

(cm)

Power (MW)

Hydrogen (LH2, 20 K)

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SuperCable H2 Storage

32201.6TVA Raccoon Mountain

20201Alabama CAES

881Scaled ETM SMES

Energy (GWh)Storage (hrs)Power (GW)

Some Storage Factoids

One Raccoon Mountain = 13,800 cubic meters of LH2

LH2 in 10 cm diameter, 250 mile bipolar SuperCable= Raccoon Mountain

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Relative Density of H2 as a Function of Pressure at 77 K wrt LH2 at 1 atm

0

0.2

0.4

0.6

0.8

1

1.2

0 2000 4000 6000 8000 10000Pressure (psia)

Rho

(H2)

/Rho

(LH2

)

Vapor

Supercritical

50% LH2

100% LH2

H2 Gas at 77 K and 1850 psia has 50% of the energy content of liquid H2and 100% at 6800 psia

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H2 - Gas SuperCable

Electrical Insulation

“Super-Insulation”

Superconductor

Supercritical Hydrogen @ 77 K

1000 – 7000 psia

Liquid Nitrogen @ 77 K

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Electricity Generation - June 2004

Coal49%

Oil2%Hydro

7%

Nukes20%

Gas18%

Renewable2%

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Al-Can Gas Pipeline

Proposals

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Mackenzie Valley Pipeline

1300 km

18 GW-thermal

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Electrical Insulation

“Super-Insulation”

Superconductor

LNG @ 105 K1 atm (14.2 psia)

Liquid Nitrogen @ 77 K

Thermal Barrier to LNG

LNG SuperCable

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SuperCable Prototype Project

H2 e–

H2 Storage SMES

Cryo I/C Station

500 m Prototype

“Appropriate National Laboratory”2005-09

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Regional System Interconnections

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