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Arvind Kejriwal is a
socialistOr, how Arvinds policies ignore alllearnigns of modern economics and
public administrationSanjeev Sabhlok
Preliminary Draft ! October "#$%appy to receive input at sabhlok&gmail'com
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#' 2 am a sworn enemy of socialism, for socialism has ruined2ndia''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''##'# 3reaking /ree of 2ndia'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''#
#' 4why should 2 ask you why Arvind is wrong+ who are you+ whatare your credentials+5 .ell, here they are)''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''#
' 6y meeting with Arvind'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''7'# 6y meeting with Arvind 8ejriwal) a picture gallery'''''''''''''''''''7
' Dear Arvind, the only path to corruption9free 2ndia is through
policies of liberty'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' :
$' 6y continuous prompting to Arvind to join politics'''''''''#$'# -o point criticising politicians or voters' Show the alternative#$' Arvind, this is not about them, it is about ;Oet the parliament of 2ndia resign' 2t has no authority to servenotice to Arvind 8ejriwal'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''7
!' (he company Arvind keeps''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''!!'# COld 2A1 shows its true colours E =0D' (his is getting really
unfortunate for 2ndia'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''!
!' 1ompendium of evidence that 2A1 Cnow AAP is socialist''''''''!!'$ /ully support Arvinds 1itiFens >okpal' >et citiFens pay for this
>okpal and let all parties use it'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''@
!'7 2 mostly agree with Prashant 3hushan' 3ut he now needs tounderstand Arthashastra''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''G
!'! ;ogendra ;adav is a hardcore socialist, and AAP cant possiblyreform with him on board''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''':
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!'@ Alarming confusion in the mind of ;ogendra ;adav re) 4socialjustice5''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' $"
@' Arvind thinks he is Hideology9free but he is notI''''''''''''$$
@'# Arvind 8erjriwal is a self9proclaimed socialist E thus an enemyof 2ndia, along with other socialists''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''$$@' (otal confusion in the mind of Arvind 8ejriwal' Plus Cof course
arrogance' %ence write off AAP''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''$7
@'$ Arvind 8ejriwal will be a disaster for 2ndia) doesnt know whathe doesnt know'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''$G
G' 1onclusive evidence that Arvind is socialist'''''''''''''''''''$BG'# 1an 2 see Arvind 8ejriwals theory of state Cor of Anna %aFare,
please+'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''$BG' Arvind 8ejriwals theory of the state J#''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''7
G'$ 1onclusive evidence that Arvind 8ejriwal is a hard coresocialist'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''7$G'7 1onclusive evidence that Arvind 8ejriwal is a hard core
socialist J'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''77
G'! Arvind, glad you want freedom in 2ndia' 2 trust you understandits meaning'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''7B
:' .hy HSwaraj Cdirect democracy is socialist '''''''''''''''''!#:'# Anna, Arvind 8ejriwals book, Swaraj, although interesting, is
-O( the solution to 2ndias problemsI'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''!#
:' 6y second comment on Arvind 8ejriwals Swaraj'''''''''''''''''''!7
:'$ Arvinds mistaken belief that direct democracy has anything todo with liberty'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''!!
:'7 >oknayak ayaprakash -arayan would have (O(A>>; opposedArvind 8ejriwals version of Swaraj'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''@"
:'! >oknayak ayaprakash -arayan would have (O(A>>; opposedArvind 8ejriwals version of socialism'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''@"
:'@ Arvind*Prashant please dont talk about decentralisation whilepromoting 0K(=060 centralisation'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''@#
B' Arvinds anti9science environmentanalism'''''''''''''''''''''@7B'# Stop this folly against ?6 crops, anti9science Arvind 8ejriwal @7
#"' Arvinds arrogance and lack of desire to learn'''''''''''''@@#"'# Arvind 8ejriwal, you say that you are willing to listen to better
ways to fight corruption+ (hen here they are'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''@@
#"' Arvind 8ejriwal, 2 trust you are %O-0S( about your reLuestfor public input'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''@G
#"'$ Publishing Arvind 8ejriwals email of #G -ovember "#''' ''@B
##' Miews of those who have worked with Arvind''''''''''''''G7##'# Person who worked with Arvind 8ejriwal uses words like
4socialistic, hoodwinking, posturing, suspect his intentions5''''''G7
#' Suggestions for Arvind'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''GB
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#'# Arvind 8ejriwal should start understanding economics insteadof focusing on corruption cases''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''GB
#' 0conomics lesson J# for Arvind 8ejriwal E an economicsilliterate'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''':#
#'$ 0conomics lesson J for Arvind 8ejriwal E an economics
illiterate'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''':7#'7 2ndias 6OS( /OO>2S% man on the topic of corruption) Arvind
8ejriwal''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''':G
#'! .hy Shantanu 3hagwat is #"" times better than Arvind8ejriwal'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''::
#'@ (he 2A1 chases after shadows while the causes of corruptionare left (O(A>>; untouched''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''':B
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#' 2 am a sworn enemy of socialism, forsocialism has ruined 2ndia
#'# 3reaking /ree of 2ndiaPlease refer to Breaking Free of Nehrufor full details'
#' 4why should 2 ask you why Arvind is wrong+ who areyou+ what are your credentials+5 .ell, here they are)?ood Luestion' %ereNs a sceptic who wants me to prove my credentails
before he asks me any Luestion'
.ell, here are the credentials for whatever these are worth' 2 am not
claiming 2 am brilliant or eceptional' 3ut please note that 2 62?%( have
something useful to say'
Experience
"You know the state of Government schools and hospitals dont
you? If not just visit a school in a small village or just visit a
hospital in any village. you will understand"
Apart from being in the districts as SD6, AD1 and Deputy 1ommissioner, 2was also Additional Secretary %ealth Department and Secretary 0ducation
Department in Assam' /or over #" years 2 not only visited etreme interior
villages of Assam Cand later, many parts of 2ndia but inspected
innumerable hospitals and schools, prepared reports, and dealt with an
enormous range of issues including corruption'
Arvind? Highly experienced in grassroots administration?ero'
Education
2 have specialised in management, economics and public policy' 0g' adoctorate from 3S-AA'
Arvind? Has he ever studied public policy?
Institute of public policy
2 established one of 2ndiaNs earliest public policy think tanks in #BBB) India
Policy Institute' Still going strong, although not as well as 2Nd like it to'
Arvind: Any interest in public policy ever?
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Only Indian bureaucrat wit forein overnment experience
2 am the O->; 2ndian bureaucrat Cto the best of my knowledge who has
worked for over # years in one of the worldNs best governments CMictoria,
Australia in a senior role' C6ainly in regulatory and economic policy Ewhich happens to be my specialisation, although 2 also spend a lot of time
stuying public administration' -ote that this is R
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Arvind? #an he speak to lines on governance reforms?
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' 6y meeting with Arvind
'# 6y meeting with Arvind 8ejriwal) a picture gallery2 met Arvind 8ejriwal yesterday' 2Nll summarise my meeting with him in aseparate blog post' 3ut first, to set the contet of some of the discussions,2Nm presenting this picture gallery' C1lick images for a larger picture if youneed a high resolution photo, contact me at sabhlok&gmail'com'
-icture above) Approaching ArvindNs office) wild cows occupying half theroad'
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And now for two pictures when you enter ArvindNs office)
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' Dear Arvind, the only path to corruption9free 2ndia isthrough policies of liberty3efore 2 talk about my meeting with Arvind 8ejriwal let me affirm that 2A1has indeed made a sinificantcontribution to 2ndia' ?urcharan Das,whom 2 met last evening, had many positive comments about (eamAnnaNs movement, particularly in awakening the 2ndian middle class' 2f fornothing else, Arvind 8ejriwal, the brain trust of (eam Anna, deservescredit for making a real difference to 2ndia'
3ut there is 6
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and 8iran 3edi were being bandied about' AnnaNs flight was slightly late sothat was discussed' And so on'
(here was no time for niceties or getting to know each other better'People were swarming around us' 2 had to cut to the chase'
Introductions
2 introduced myself briefly, with the >3S-AA as link, a place where 2 hadtaught in #BB7 and Arvind had passed through as a fresh civil servicerecruit in #BB' %arsh 6ander was our common friend'
2 outlined to him Cin short9handI why, after so many years in the 2AS 2decided in /ebruary #BB: to change 2ndia' (here was no one else willingCor capable of bringing about the change' 2 had no choice but to do itmyself' 2 then gave him an outline of the three failed political efforts 2made in this regard' (hen told him about /(2and why /(2 will succeed'
ac" of liberty& te root cause of all problems in India
2 pointed out the mess outside his office, about the miserable poverty thatis eperienced by hundreds of millions of 2ndians' 9atis the mainproblem in 2ndia) the total waste of our peopleNs potential'
2n this contet, while asking Arvind which countries he had visited, hementioned Camong others 8orea' (hat was an ecellent hook' 2 thereforespoke to him about the key difference between -orth and South 8orea Ewhich 2 have discussed in detail in my book, Breaking Free of Nehru$(hedifference is allabout liberty'
2 eplained that good governance, underpinned by the principles ofliberty, is the best way to remove corruption and bring unprecedentedprosperity to 2ndia Csuch as to the people who live in misery just outsidehis office' 2 eplained how some of the worldNs best academics such asAlasdair =oberts Cwho has taught at >3S-AA have vetted my book' .etherefore need to understand and follow world9best models of governancein 2ndia'
Our job is to ensure the kind of governance that will enable our poor tocreate wealth' (his will A>; eliminate both poverty AN(corruption'
2 added that corruption is a symptom, -O( the cause of 2ndias manyproblems' 1orruption is like malarial fever while the cause Cmalarialparasite is lack of liberty and bad policies' 0ven Anna, Arvind admitted,
agrees that >okpal will only act like a band9aid and more fundamentalreforms will be needed' .e need not just the enforcement of rules Corstronger punishment to the corrupt, but the right kind of rules'
Arvind sould offer is leadersip to India and (I*E:9/ caneIndia
2 pointed out that in order to change the lives of our desperately poorpeople, we must not provide mere band9aids or a patchwork of QsolutionsQunrelated to any fundamental principle of governance' .e must provide acomprehensive solution based on the principle of liberty' And the only wayto do this is bydirectlyproviding political leadership to 2ndia through theparliament'
2 mentioned that all his 2A1 work will make not te slitest dent inIndia$s overnance' .hat is needed is to ta"e over teovernment and directly provide the governance that 2ndia needs'
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2 mentioned that the Director of the Academy in #B:7 C26 Puri used totell us that if we really want to change 2ndia we have no choice but toenter politics' And when a probationer from our #B: batch asked 2ndira?andhi in #B:$ Cduring a meeting in the P6s house why there was so
much corruption in the 1ongress party, she challenged the probationerthus) 2f you can do better and remove corruption why dont you do ityourself+
(hat same challenge remains today, $" years later' >et us not preach norehort others to do things for us' 2n our free democracy, we are obliged todirectly do it ourselves' 2 have taken up that challenge in /ebruary #BB:'And 2 want all the best leaders of 2ndia to take up that challenge'
.hy is it that we have such high Luality people in 2ndia and such lowLuality results+ (he time to complain is over' -ow it is time to D2=01(>;do the job'
2 added to Arvind that 2m interested O->; in him E personally E and not
his group' 2m looking P; for high Luality youn leaders fortomorrowNs 2ndia' 3ut in addition to being honest these young people mustunderstand the right policies'
(hat means Arvind will need to understand the concept of liberty better,and pay serious attention to policies'
%e agreed to read any material that 2 may send to him' 2 promised to doso soon'
2 also eplained that on /(2 we onlytake people who are determined tobecome Prime 6inister of 2ndia' 2f people dont have such determination Eto offer their P0=SO-A> services to 2ndia as its leader, they should not
waste our time'2ndeed, on /(2 there are at least 6< Arvind Kejriwals todayCfiguratively speaking' (hey are currently not well known Ce'g' Somnath3harati, just as Arvind was not well known when he first started his work'3ut the capability is there' #"" per centI 2 also eplained that some well9known leaders likeP of >okSatta are effectively members of /(2'
(herefore Arvind can consider joining /(2 when he is ready' 2Nll providemore details to Arvind via email'
9at0 in sum0 was te discussion&
a Showing Arvind that doing 2A1 work is fine so long as everyone in 2A1
knows that this work will -O( change Cby even O-0 32( the lives of thepoor people who live like pigs just outside Arvinds office'
b Showing Arvind that our fundamental problem is lack of liberty Cwithaccountability'
c Showing Arvind that without directlyoffering our P0=SO-A> politicalleadership to 2ndia, we are nevergoing to be free of the corrupt rascalswho govern 2ndia'
>et us battle these thugs at the hustings' >et us take over the parliament'
Our meeting ended on a pleasant note, with a photo, shown below'
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$' 6y continuous prompting to Arvind tojoin politics
$'# -o point criticising politicians or voters' Show thealternativeArvind Kejriwal0 now you ave stepped well out of order
Arvind 8ejriwal is a young man with ideals, something 2ndia must always
welcome and encourage' %owever, 2Nve had occasion to Luestion young
ArvindNs understanding of basicpolicy over the last year, even as 2Nve
encouraged him C2Nve sent messages to him through those who know himto learn more and find out the underlying causes of 2ndiaNs many
problems' %is S0M0=0 policy ignorance is becoming a big obstacle in his
personal growth as a leader'
-ow, like 8iran 3edi, who stepped .0>> O
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functionin democracy tan a dictatorsip were life and liberty
is constantly under treat >tat includes te possible dictatorsip
of medievalists li"e Anna 'a)are or even ?andi imself@.
2 have said clearly that most of our 6Ps are (%
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+unday, he folloed it up ith a ritten statement: -0 did not say anything
rong and 0 stand by my statement$/
1laborating, he said, of the 234 5.s against hom criminal cases had
been registered, 26 faced charges of murder, 47 of attempt to murder, 22of cheating under +ection 647 and 28 of abduction$ He said five
candidates in 9ttar .radesh elections had charges of rape against them$
0n the present .arliament, charges of corruption had been slapped on a
number of 5.s like 'animo&hi, A a(a, ;alu .rasad and 5ulayam +ingh
.here 2 disagree is this) that it is not enough to restate 2ndiaNs problem for
the # millionth time' .e all know the reality of the =AS1A>S who govern
2ndia'
2t is not enough to keep saying that a child is sick' .e need to 10' At the
hustings' (hey vs' us'
>etNs do it'
$'$ (he problem with the 2A1 is not its members deviationfrom the ideal, but its shunning politics
(he 2A1 has defended its membersN deviations from the straight and
narrow here'
>et me note that it is not such QirregularitiesQ of some of its members E
including Anna %aFare himself E that bother me as much as
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the determination of IA: membersF 9eam Anna to stay out of
politics'
I detest tose wo sit in judement over oters wile actin coy
and pretendin to be above politics.
2f you are so good why hide from the hustings+ .hy not give the people of
2ndia a chance to elect you+
6y grievance is also that this team is not a team' (hese people donNt
seem willing to work together with oters # wo are eCually or ,O*E
committed to a better India 9 to A1(>; change 2ndia'
(his QteamQ is thus not willing to listen to ideas with significant merit but
continues to chase after dead ends like the an >okpal bill which canNt
even make the slitestdent in 2ndiaNs corruption nor address the manythousands of serious issues of misgovernance'
2Nve tried my best to contact these people but they are intent on their
dead end QsolutionsQ E and refusal to join politics'
(he people of 2ndia today therefore simply have -O 1%O210 but to vote
either 1ongress or 3P E and these parties canNEDE*, will NEDE*solve
2ndiaNs problems' (hey are the problem itself' So the solution is to offer
2ndia a 6230=(; and agree the
policies they want to offer the people E (%0- contest elections'
2f you meet any of of the 2A1 QteamQ members, please ask them why they
refuse to join politics' (hatNs not citiFenship' (hatNs cowardice'
$'7 ?lad to hear, finally, that 2A1 will enter politics' >etsdo a reality check of policies now'2t took P many years of prodding to enter politics' %e finally did, in ""@'
(hat was great news for 2ndia'
2t is also good that the 2A1 has /2-A>>; listened to the voice of reason interms of approach to reform) an issue 2Nve been raising for a long time
and will no loner waste time in useless and inappropriate darnas
and dramas' IA: will now join politics.
Now te real battle beins.
At this time, it is crucial that 2 should see a different, *EE(O,
ODIN? Arvind 8ejriwal' (hat Arvind will need to be different to the
socialist9leaning 8ejriwal we have seen so far'
2A1, DO -O( announce a political party' (hat will be fatal' ;ouNll merely
become one more >ok Satta, one more ago party' ?uaranteed to lose'
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and preach' .e can fi the problem of corruption, but we can$t fix te
problem of apaty'
%e need te =E+9 people of India to step forward. %e must
always encourae ood people wo offer to represent tecountry.
(%0 PA=>2A60-( 2S (%0 P>A10 .%0=0 (%0 .2S0S( S%OD
ASS063>0' et$s ive a round of applause to 9eam Anna for ta"in
te *I?'9 (E:I+ION!
9ree ceers for IA: on its ta"in te first step in te rit
direction'
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7' 6y position on Arvind
7'# Arvind is an honest manOn that 2 have no doubt, despite his miing foreign funding with the 2A1program'
7' 3ut Arvind has a very strong socialist streak%e wants decentralisation Cbut in an entirely different way to what ispracticable and meaningful' 3ut he doesnt want to Luestion the role ofgovernment or the enormous number of 4programmes5 it is running'
(hats the key issue, as 2 will elaborate'
7'$ Deepak Parekh is wrong to undermine Arvind 8ejriwaland support 1ongress*3PPost dated ! -ovember "#
2t is disappointing to read statements from people like Deepak
ParekhCwho should know better that 4corruption cannotbe eradicated
from the system5, but Cin the same breath that 2ndians should stillvote
for 1ongress*3P'
So 2ndians should keep committing mass suicide just because it suits thelikes of Deepak Parekh who live a cushy live in this rotten system+
-o, thanks'
.hat a let down to the mass agitation for reform of 2ndiaNs governance' As
if the 2A1 simply did not eist' As if the aspirations of millions of 2ndians
simply donNt matter' (heir job is to vote for the corrupt so people like
Deepak Parekh can get to drive their cushy limousines and have dinner in
!9star hotels with criminals'
;es, Parekh is right that Arvind 8ejriwal is not approaching the issue theright way' 3ut thats only because he doesnt understand basic
economics' -ot because thereNs anything wrong with Arvind himself'
As a person Arvind is A* +G-E*IO*to A>> members of 3P*1ongress
E combined' IHm wit Arvind in tis fit aainst corruption and
aainst :onressF=-.
3ut 2 can only go alf te way with him unless he changes his approach
to policy'
2 keep suggesting to him Cthrough this blog E 2 stopped writing to himsome time ago, since he doesnNt respond that he can achieve his goals
for 2ndia only through systemic reform of incentives and markets' (hats
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the kind of advice he needs from you, Parekh, not putting down
his braveefforts against the +G-E*B*A+:A+ that rule 2ndia'
Arvind is a brave man' %e is ill9educated in economics and public policy,
but otherwise he isjust the kind of man 2ndia needs'
I would call upon Indians to resist any attempt by fat cats li"e
-are" >wo tin" notin about brea"in bread wit :*I,INA+@
to ma"e tem vote =-F:onress in 2
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essential commodities, are deeply socialist, and ill take 0ndia further
don the path of ruin$ @e need serious policy thinkers to come forard,
not economics illiterates$ hanakya should be made mandatory
reading for anyone interested in public life.
I fully support the idea that !rvind has joined politics. 0 think that
is the right ay to proceed$ But no, 0d not be nor ill F*0 members be
part of 0A#s political effort unless e see strong policy alignment$ Arvind
is currently influenced by the Bhushans, ho are hardcore socialists$ ;et
Arvind become curious about good policy, then 0m happy to spend time to
talk to him$
-ote, clearly that 2 left the 2AS and decided to devote my energy to the
reform of 2ndiaNs governance not in because 2 care Cor not care for Arvind,
but because 2 am driven by a single goal) the (otal (ransformation of
2ndia' 2n that process, 2 believe that the right way must be followed, and
the right system established' 2ndividuals are important, but systems must
over9ride them' (o that etent, Arvind is 2==0>0MA-(' Only his ideas are
relevant' 3ut unfortunately, his ideas are wrong'
So hereNs an etract from /3)
!Coin Forces ith 0A#D 0A# is trying to unite all political parties ith
similar philosophies and principles$$ Arvind only has a political vision of
complete decentralisation$ He does not have a economic vision$ Coin
forces ith 0A#$$ 0t is bound to be a in!in situation$$
#anjeev #abhlokA, 0ve tried to contact Arvind$ He is not interested in
good policy$ .l$ see my comments in Business +tandard today:
http:EE$business!standard$comEindiaEnesEsreelatha!menonke(rial!
clubE67GGGE$ F*0 is focused on good policy$ @e have a different approach
!Alright$$ u may have different vies$ And he is really head strong$
=+an(eev: +o am 0, if you havent noticed%> But remember, under the
constitution all policy decisions ill be taken by vote$ As a political party u
ill have to convince hundreds of voters to vote for u$ 9 ill have to do
similar stuff if u are a part of 0A#$$ He has a lot of influence in 0A# co&people across the board respect him a lot$ 9 have to in votes of the
educated middle and upper middle class hich is the primary orkforce of
0A#$$
*hese people are not his blind folloers$ =+an(eev: 0ve not seen the non!
blind ones yet$ Happy to meet them$> 9 have to convince them ith logic
and they ill vote for uprovided u dont use ords like most stupid man
on corruption$ =+an(eev: He is the most foolish man on the topic of
corruption$ Ho can 0 hide that fact?> 9ltimately F*0 as a political party ill
have to do the same but on a much much larger scaleD 9 ill take a long
long time to create a big platform like 0A#$ even 0A# is not big enough$$
think about itD 9ltimately the decision is yours$ =+an(eev: 0f all 0 anted
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as poer, 0d have (oined #ongress or BC. 4 years ago$ No shortcuts
please$ )nly the right path$>
*he vision document has been misIuoted a number of times by a number
of media houses$$ =+an(eev: 5aybe, but 0ve seen the original version inHindi$> Anyays, we have found a number of short comings in it$
and it is being revised$$ =+an(eev$ *hats good$ 0 look forard to a
freedom based policy program$> Be a part of 0A# and try and sell your
ideas$$ *his is the best audience u can get$$ Forget about Arvind$$ *hink
about the vast youth base 0A# hasD 0*, #As, 5edical
professionals,1ngineers etc etcD @here else are u going to get educated
people in 47s and 87s in such large numbers$$ convice them ith logic$$ 0f
u get personal ith a man hom they see orking 47 hours day, u ill get
no here$$ 9se logice$$
#hailesh #arafi do think that many people ant to contribute to Arvind
only on the condition that he F0+* becomesEthinks like them andEor
agree to their conditionsDthis is non!starter since!rvind has achieved
phenomenal success=+an(eev: 0 agree, re: *0$ 0 commend his ork in
that field$> and proven his integrity, intentions, hard ork, etc$ and is
extremely busy$%#anjeev& eing busy is no e'cuse to be a socialist$
I(m very sorry.> )ne should prove his commitment by contributing to his
cause B1F)1 expecting Arvind to pay significant attention$ =+an(eev: 0
dont ant his attention$ 0 am (ust speaking my mind$ He can take it or
leave it$ >
! true +hailesh$$ 0 am sure he meets hundreds of advisers every day,
ho do nothing really$ 0, as an average volunteer have met a lot of such
people too$ )nce a farmer leader had come to him from haryana and
anted Arvind to take up their issues and do a rally in their area$ He
said,0 am not going to do it$ 9 organise a big rally urself, educate the
farmers, bring them from the entire state together for a rally and 0 ill
definitely attend itJ$ He has become a brand$ *his is tough, but this
method proves the sincerity of the person$ *his is ho leaders emerge$
# )ne cannot please everybody all the *imeD0A# is fighting its )n
Battle F*0 ill also do it in due course of time, 0 am sure$ F*0 also ould
build up a Huge mass Base (ust as big as 0A#$ *illl then, Arvind has +tarted
a @ar ith the 5ost poerful K #orrupt .oliticians of 0ndiaD;ets give him
is dueD;ets Admire his Luts and +trength$ And if do not support him lets
not critici&e him and pull him don$
#anjeev #abhlok "ear friends, 0 simply dont care for Arvind 'e(rial or
+he(rial$ 0t is .91;< about 0ndias future$ And if !rvind is unwilling to
learn basic economics$ he is simply irrelevant.0m not trying to
change Arvind$ He better learn basic economics if he ants to bring
change to 0ndia$ )is ignorance is rampant and problematic. I willspeak the truth for in my mind it is not !rvind that matters but
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India. !nd India is * billion times bigger. +o let F*0 continue its (ob of
plain speaking and offering alternatives that @0;; ork$
;et Arvind and his group of confused people carry on ith their confusion$
+ometimes confusions go on for 3 years, like the Nehruvian socialistconfusion$ Arvind is simply folloing that confusion$ ;ets not orry about
Arvind too much$ Cust that the (ournalist specifically asked me about
Arvind$
:onclusion
2Nm not writing this blog, or my books, or working to bring outstanding
leaders together on /(2 for the sake of 2A1 or Arvind or =amdev' (his effort
is -O( about any one of us' 2t is about EDE*/ 2ndian, and about 2ndiaNs
future Cand of the world' So letNs focus on the key Luestions, not about
Arvind or =amdev'
2 have tried for months to reach out to Arvind' %e is Cfrom what 2 can
gather avoiding any discussion with me or with /(2' (hatNs a problem, for
/(2 is promoting a systematic Cas opposed to ad hoc approach based on
liberty' And its leaders are impeccably honest' So why is he not interested
in engaging with these good leaders and finding out more about liberty+
2ndeed, to me the biggest problem is) wy as e not joined o"
+atta2Nve said that he should do so) repeatedly' 2 canNt see why he is
disrespecting perhaps the greatest leader in 2ndian politics today) P'
2 have many differences with P, but 2 see him /A= A3OM0 Arvind in
calibre, in understanding of 2ndiaNs problems, in eperience, and in his
understanding about liberty'
So what should 2 conclude with all this+
JJ 9at Arvind is determined to impose is +O:IAI+9 ideas on
India.
%is manifesto ChereNs the %indi PD/ is blatantly socialist'
0ven 3aba =amdev has shown willingness to at least talk to me, and listen
to my suggestions regarding 1hanakyaNsArthashastra' 3ut Arvind seems
to have made up is mind to take 2ndia /
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2 have not Luit my job Cto escape socialists and put in tens of thousands
of hours of work only to QkowtowQ toyet anothersocialist' No one can
ma"e me respect any socialist.(he Luestion of my supporting socialist
2A1 does not arise'
2 once again invite Arvind to stop his mad rush into socialism'
2f he finds it odd to read my book, let him start withArthashastra$
7'! 1opy of my email to Arvind 8ejriwal outlining support,but asking for a real alternative+ent a minute ao&
"ear Arvind
0 havent heard back from you after my meeting at your office in February$0 assume you are busy, although it surprising that youve taken so long to
respond you did mention that you read your email$ 0 hope youll confirm
receipt of this email and that youve read my book, Breaking Free of
Nehru attached, for your convenience$
0m riting to confirm that 0 fully support *eam Anna on its demand for
special panel to probe corruption allegations against 55+ and #abinet$
0 believe, hoever, that in addition, the onus is on you to sho that you
can offer 0ndia an alternative$
0 hope you have realised the obvious fact that 0ndia elects #ongress not
because they love corruption, but because there is no alternative$ BC. is
definitely % not an alternative$ A most misguided and corrupt
organisation, itself$
0ve been encouraging those ho ant to reform 0ndia to (oin on a
platform that commits to integrity and liberty$ Freedom *eam of 0ndia$
*hat 0+ the alternative$ And it ill truly transform 0ndia$ 0 believe you
should focus on (oining such an effort$
0m not sure about your orldvie, but 0 trust youve met Lurcharan "as$
And talking to +omnath Bharti ill help$ .lease find out more about ho
you can A#*9A;;< reform 0ndia and eliminate corruption$ @e can book a
time and 0 can call you this eekend$ ;et me kno$ 0 think you need to
devote time to understand ho successful economies are created$
5y best ishes are ith you, but 0 do hope youll take the task of reforms
more seriously, and not aste time on fights that ill lead 0ndia nohere$
*hus, even if you get a panel to probe 55+, do you believe it ill do
anything for 0ndia?
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+an(eev
7'@ >et the parliament of 2ndia resign' 2t has no authorityto serve notice to Arvind 8ejriwal'
(eam Anna should not harangue the parliament' 2t should, instead,
contest elections and =OO9 OG9these ruffians'
2t is pointless to tell a thief that he is a thief' %e simply wonNt change'
;ouNve got to P; lead 2ndia'
3ut e is %E %I9'IN 'I+ *I?'9 to criticise te parliament.
(he parliament is not a protected organisation' (here is,
indeed, NOprotected organisation or religion or entity in 2ndia' -othing
above the citiFen' 9e :I9IEN I+ +ODE*EI?N. All constitutional
bodies are subject to criticism0 and are +G=+E*DIEN9 to te
citi)en.
2n this case there is overwhelming evidence that the parliament is nothing
but a bunch or rascals and crooks' (here is -O doubt in anyone$s mind
about that' (he data speak for themselves'
Arvind should do more to fi the problem, but he is -O(
doing anytinwrong by speaking his mind' %e has the /> >230=(; to
say what he likes' Andin tis case e as provided EL9EN+IDE
evidence of te parliament$s corruption and criminality.
(he idea of issuing privilege notice on Arvind is shameful'
I call on te entire parliament to resin and and over te
overnance of India to te -resident0 to order fres elections.
2n these fresh elections, 2 hope that Arvind will contest elections' 0lse he
would be a mere rabble9rouser, not a leader'
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!' (he company Arvind keeps
!'# COld 2A1 shows its true colours E =0D' (his is gettingreally unfortunate for 2ndia'2t is a sad situation in which Arvind 8ejriwal has allowed his political party
to be hijacked by Prashant 3hushan'
If Arvind doesn$t as" =usan to sut up and leave immediately0
I$ll presume tis is ELA:9/ wat Arvind imself stands for.
2n that case 2 condemn this whole political effort being started in the
name of Qgood menQ but who are doing 0KA1(>; what has destroyed2ndia'
(heir QgoodnessQ is only going to destroy 2ndia'
I will fit tese socialists wit all my mit. 9ey may be onest
today0 but tere is NO %A/ any socialist party will remain onest.
(here are >A.S of economics that canNt be violated'
(here is now notin to distinuis =-F:onress from IA:.
>Old@ IA: sows its true colours # *E(. 9is is ettin really
unfortunate for India.
2t is a sad situation in which Arvind 8ejriwal has allowed his political party
to be hijacked by Prashant 3hushan'
If Arvind doesn$t as" =usan to sut up and leave immediately0
I$ll presume tis is ELA:9/ wat Arvind imself stands for.
2n that case 2 condemn this whole political effort being started in the
name of Qgood menQ but who are doing 0KA1(>; what has destroyed
2ndia'
(heir QgoodnessQ is only going to destroy 2ndia'
I will fit tese socialists wit all my mit. 9ey may be onest
today0 but tere is NO %A/ any socialist party will remain onest.
(here are >A.S of economics that canNt be violated'
!' 1ompendium of evidence that 2A1 Cnow AAP issocialistSocialism is a death trap' 2t has prematurely killed millions of people in2ndia, it has blighted the lives of millions' Anyone who promotes socialismis an 0-06; of 2ndia'
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=ut&
NO9 ON:E 'A+ IA: EDE* ,EN9IONE( 9'E %O*( I=E*9/.
Arvind Kejriwal0 left of centre
%e has declared himself left of centre'%is Swaraj says not one word against any eisting socialist program,merely that the village assembly must have a role' %is Swaraj thus has noregard to liberty' All about local self9governance'
%e is keen to fi prices'
At yesterdays launch party, A' is Iuoted as saying from the dais:
.etrol price ill be brought don to 7 a litre, diesel to 87, lpg to 87 acylinder$
*his is their key agendaTinfo throN Supratim, G -ov # on /orumU
also) http)**www'Luora'com*Arvind98ejriwal*Should9Arvind98ejriwal9be9trusted9with9the9fate9of92ndia9to9improve9it9for9the9better*answer*?anesh9Srinivas
-rasant =usan0 te central planner
%e has called for nationalisation of industry in 2ndia'
.ants socialist policy in 2ndia'
/oendra /adav
;ogendra ;adav 94%ow can we not be wedded to the idea of economiceLuality+ .hat is so #B@"s about it+5
Creported by Mishal Singh
Anna 'a)are
%e has disallowed the 6aharashstra government from holding legallyreLuired elections in his village'
%e has imposed his rules Ceg' re) liLuor*meat eating on everyone in hisvillage'
%e has personally whipped Cwith an army belt those who have violatedhis rules'
And Anna has stridently opposed /D2'
All socialists
2Nm unable to distinguish between 2A1Ns ideology and that of1ongerss*3P*A?P*(DP*D68*A2D68*Shiv Sena, etc'
1an anyone please show me how 2A1 and its supporters will bring anychange in 2ndia+
!'$ /ully support Arvinds 1itiFens >okpal' >et citiFens payfor this >okpal and let all parties use it'/(2 has a strong disciplinary process but we did not have the kind of
resources Cand vision, perhaps to propose a private >okpal'
I$m delited to ear tat Arvind as created an Internal o"palfor is party.
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2Nd like to suggest that he institutionalise this >okpal'
2 dislike the idea of a government funded >okpal' (hat is not independent
enough'
3ut 2 like the idea of a 1itiFensN >okpal that is directly funded by
citi)ens trou private donations0and the use of the services of
which is entirely discretionary and optional'
(he fact that the 1itiFensN >okpal makes a determination of innocence
should be enough to confirm someoneNs integrity Cand vice versa' 2f found
guilty, the 1itiFensN >okpal would make a formal complaint to the Police'
(his >okpal should be converted into a (rust, and rules established around
it'
(his will form part of the institutional structure of 1itiFensN
?overnmentthat 2Nve earlier proposed'
(his >okpal should offer its services to all political groups*parties Cthat
have paid a membership fee and wish to get complaints against their
members verified'
2Nm happy to get involved in drafting the (rust Deed for such a 1itiFensN
>okpal' As a first step 2Nd like the allegations against 3aba =amdev to also
be investigated Cif he offers himself for such investigation'
!'7 2 mostly agree with Prashant 3hushan' 3ut he nowneeds to understand Arthashastra'=aghvendra, who was present at the 3angalore event Cbelow sent in this
link'
2 actually agree with B! per cent of what 3hushan is saying' %is
description of crony capitalism prevailing in 2ndia isspot on'
So thatNs a good start) that both 2 and he A?=00 that the loot of the
country has increased since liberalisation occurred' And that it has been
led both by 1ongress and 3P'
2n BFN 2 eplained that today is possibly O->; for the corrupt to enter
2ndiaNs political system' (hatNs basic economics'
And so 2 offered solutions to allow good people to enter politics'
3ut there was a full chapter devoted to the administration of the country
C1hapter ! and also a significant section devoted to how the political
system will need to be reformed C1hapter @'
(he point that 3hushan doesnNt understand is that when you O->; allowthe corrupt to enter A-D you pay them very poorly, the you can epect
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(hatNs where some basic knowledge of economics and public
administration would have been good, but he is clearly unaware of these
areas of human knowledge'
(hatNs not a problem' %e is a good man who wants to improve 2ndia' 2Nmhappy to speak even with him C2 was earlier reluctant to do so given his
hardcore socialist views to eplain the A1( process of functioning of
capitalism' -ot crony capitalism' 1rony capitalism is O->; possible under
socialist regimes'
-o, and no nationalisation please' >et me eplain personally over the
phone Cassuming someone gives a copy of the blog post to 6r' 3hushan'
!'! ;ogendra ;adav is a hardcore socialist, and AAP cant
possibly reform with him on board=ecent developments with AAP are positive' 2Nm informed Csee this thatQAAPs economic policies r yet to take concrete shapeQ' And a recent
meeting with Arvind seemed to indicate he supports minimal government'
3ut we canNt discount either 3hushan or ;ogendra ;adav' .hile they
remain on AAP, there is +I,-/ no possibilityof this party advocating
good policy' 2Nd love to be proven wrong, but 2 donNt think leopards change
their spots so easily'
Of course, if 3hushan or ;adav are .2>>2-? to be Luestioned, then 2Nm
happy to engage with them in a public debate'
/oendra as been particularly nasty to me in an email
communication. Entirely unprovo"ed0 but e probably tin"s tat
insultin me doesn$t matter. 3ut perhaps he would insult me anyway,
being the %A=D1O=0 socialist and the enemy of liberty' %aving a debate
with me is not in his best interest, perhaps+ So why not alienate me+
;adavNs article) Q(owards an 2ndian Agenda for the 2ndian >eftQ 0conomic
and Political .eekly V Mol' :, -o' 7#, Oct' B, #BB$ T1an be read free of
cost at S(O= by registeringU' 2n calling for another way to enter the minds
of the people, he notes)
J+ocialists must spell out a more plausible picture of the institutional
design hich can realise the above mentioned ideals$ @hile one set of
socialists have continued to believe innocently in the magic of the all
poerful state, nationalisation and central planning, others have fallen
back on an alternative set of mythologies: decentralisation, small!scale
techniIues, self!sufficiency, and so on$
J+ery few would ,uestion the charms of the socialist dreams, hat
people usually suspect is its feasibility or realisability in the given
conditions$ +ocialists must convince themselves rigorously on this score
before they set out to make converts$ *he folloing areas need greater
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and more careful attention: the role of the public sector, the extension of
nationalisation, the role of market, the policy on international economic
relations, the problem of combining decentralisation ith efficiency, the
Iuestion of feasibility of self!sufficiency in technology, the nationality
Iuestion, the nature of federal political arrangements, the appropriateeducational and cultural policy, the future of caste system and the
empooerment of omen$J
Not one word AN/%'E*E in is writins about liberty' %e, the
QgreatQ man, has allsolutions for us, for all our problems' %e can fi them
through QappropriateQ technology, appropriate education, etc' Of course,
only %0 knows whatNs appropriate' And if only we followed him and his
ideas, we would all magically achieve the Qsocialist dreamQ'
/adav$s opposition to *amdev
;ogendra doesnNt even like the relatively less than classical liberal
approach of =amdev when he wrote with approval about Arvind 8)
J*hey have tried to distance themselves from blatant anti!politics and
institution!bashing and from theideological stream represented by
-amdev$J =+ource>
2 had a different view about Swami =amdevNs worldview before 2 met and
understood his work' 2Nm now comfortable that his swadeshi is not the
swadeshi of the early "th century 2ndian politics' 2t is about using the
30S( modern technology to produce the best 2ndian products' And leaving
it to consumers to choose' -o imposition involved here'
/adav$s advocacy of Kisan -atnai"
2n this article ;ogendra talks about 8ishan Patnaik as his guru' .ho was
8ishan Patnaik+
@ell, JHe ill be remembered for his passionate commitment to value!
based politics and for hisrelentless campaign against the
retrogressive policies of economic liberalisation$ He favoured a
broad!based coalition of socialists, communists and other democrats
against imperialist globalisation and orked hard to retrieve the socialist
stream from the morass of political opportunismD 'ishan .atnaik adhered
to the Landhiancriti,ue of modern civiliation and the idea of
progress$ 5ost of the developments in late capitalism seemed to him a
confirmation of his beliefs$J =+ource>
/adav$s advocacy of oia
;adav has written in glowing terms about >ohia in his article, QOn
=emembering >ohiaQ in 0P. on Oct "#"' -o doubt >ohia was a
nationalist, but >ohia stood for a particular version of socialism that can
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perhaps by the phrase QSmall is 3eautifulQ' %e combined 6ar and ?andhi
in a uniLue way E by opposing technology and opposing progress itself'
/adav$s advocacy of +urendra ,oan
2n an article, Steadfast socialist, ;ogendra ;adav writes)
J9ntil the end of his life, he as engaged in an attempt to bring together
all those socialists ho had stayed true to the values of the movement$ As
president of the recently formed +ocialist Canata .arty, he as orking for
its foundation conference in 5ay 4722 hen his (ourney came to an end$
He as associated ith the National Alliance for .eoples 5ovements, the
+ocialist Front and the ashtra +eva "al$J
;ogendra ;adav comes from the romantic stream of socialists who, in
their rejection of the study of human nature, rejection of the ideas ofArthashastra, rejection of the ideas which made 2ndia great in the past,
have tried to find an QalternativeQ model that />20S 2- (%0 /A10 O/ 3AS21
01O-O621S'
(o have him in AAP Calong with P'3hushan is certain recipe for disaster'
2f AAP is not socialist, with these guys on board, please tell me what these
two are doingI
(hese two are Qhola .alasQ, who imagine that through their fertile
imagination they can somehow overturn the 2=O- laws of economics'
Sorry guys, but you canNt 0M0= break a S2-?>0 law of economics'
!'@ Alarming confusion in the mind of ;ogendra ;adav re)4social justice52Nve written a >O( against the fuFFy and confused idea of Qsocial justiceQ
which %ayek, too, in his work has dismissed as having no meaningful
content'
Apparently a social scientist but ignorant entirely of the meaninglessness
of this concept, ;ogendra ;adav has written an article entitled Q=ethinking
Social usticeQ Seminar, Sept ""B'
(he following etract is A>A=62-?I
+ocial (ustice reIuires that all social goods material as ell as non!
material goods such as dignity should be distributed on the basis of
the criterion relevant to that good or activity. =+an(eev: Note this is
ho these collectivists ork$ *hey facilely pull out a definition from their
hat, then expect us to F);;)@ 0* B;0N";
*his ould mean detaching access to social goods and opportunities fromsocial circumstances =+an(eev: And ho pray ould do that? *he B0L
3
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+*A*1%> and thus complicate any understanding of Mmerit$ =+an(eev: 5erit
is a dangerous ord for socialists since it represents effort and talent$>
But social (ustice need not re(ect relevance of ability, effort and choices to
life prospects of individuals and groups$ =+an(eev: @ell, thats .1#0+1;>; fail to deliver, e'g' =(2' .hy did =(2 not eliminate corruption, E
why did italsoneed >okpal+ (he same fate will attend the >okpal E which
doesnNt address A-; of the causes of corruption' .hy is state funding ofelections -O( being promoted by 2A1+
%ell0 Kejriwal as now cleared te air and declared imself
+O:IAI+9&
/o you have ideological inclinations?
;et me speak about the people in the leadership as 0 cannot speak for all
the people ho have participated$ *here cannot be anyone in the
leadership ho has a communal background$ 0ur core team consists
of 12 people and most of them are left centre. I hope thatanswers your ,uestion.
Need I say more Now0 everytin fits.
-o wonder there has been no response from Arvind 8ejriwal Cor 8iran
3edi to mypersonal messagesCdelivered through intermediaries' (%0S0
P0OP>0 A=0 SO12A>2S(S E -O D2//0=0-( (O (%0 1O-?=0SS A-D 3P
>0AD0=S (%0; 1>A26 (O OPPOS0'
.ell, it is good to have his views made so eplicit Clike Amartya Sen made
eplicit his leftist leanings, once, and is no longer a credible economistin my list of 2ndian economists'
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So now the whole of 2nda knows that Arvind and I are on O--O+I9E
+I(E+' (hatNs good to know'
2 left the Academy Cin August #BB7 one year before Arvind 8ejriwal joined
the civil service C#BB!' %ad 2 been at the Academy in #BB! 2 would havetaught him' At the least 2 hope he was taught by Atindra Sen of the #BG:
batch of 2AS Cnow with the 3ombay chambers of commerce E an
economist whom 2 hold in high esteem'
3ut the AcademyNs thrust was, of course, socialist under the leadership of
-1 Saena Cand %arsh 6ander who was a couple of batches senior to me E
#B:" vsmine E #B:' (hat might have prevented good economics
education from being imparted to the young officer trainees' And so we
ave manaed to create /E9 ANO9'E* economic illiterate wo is
now furter damain India # damae tat was started by Neru.
2f Arvind will kindly do me the courtesy of reading 34 Cas his
countefactual professor at the Academy we can discuss further'
0lse 2Nm going oppose anything he does to destroy 2ndiaNs future' Sorry, 2
canNt tolerate socialists' (hey are (%0 0-0620S O/ 2-D2A' Period'
(he failure of economics education in 2ndia is colossal' A disaster'
*elated&
1an 2 see Arvind 8ejriwals theory of state Cor of Anna %aFare,please+ On September #, "##
.hy =(2 is -O( the solution to 2ndias problems On August G, "#"
Arvind 8ejriwals theory of the state J# On September $, "##
@' (otal confusion in the mind of Arvind 8ejriwal' Plus Cofcourse arrogance' %ence write off AAP'Someone asked Arvind re) his views on economics' (his is what he replied'
6y comments follow'
AK$s response
2 am often asked E4Are you a leftist, socialist or a capitalist+5 TSanjeev)
thatNs a stupid Luestion' (here is -O difference between leftist and
socialistU
/riends, we are not wedded to any ideoloy..e are common people'
.e have our problems' .e want solutions' If we find solution to any
problem in te eft0 we are appy to borrow it from tere.
TSanjeev) (here is -O viable solution in socialist ideas'U 2f we find solution
in 1apitalism, we are happy to take it from there' TSanjeev) Sorry, you
donNt even KNO% te basics of capitalism0 what can you possibly
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take++U
3ut we firmly believe that government has no business to be in business'
TSanjeev) %ow can one believe him, a person who has consistently
demanded price regulation and public sector management of the keyaspects of the economy+U ?overnment should leave business to the
citiFens of this country'
2 personally belong to a business family' Other than my father, most of the
other members of my family are in business' 2 am aware of the kind of
problems faced by a businessman'
(here are two types of businessmen' (he first category consists of those
businessmen who openly subvert and milk the system to their advantage'
/or instance those businessmen who buy spectrum for =s #!"" crores
today and sell it at =s @""" crores a week later, we dont call it business'(his is open loot' (he second category consists of those businessmen who
constantly struggle against the system and are successful despite all
obstacles created by the system'
.hereas the former category of businessmen would like to maintain
status Luo, the latter category wants 2ndia to become corruption9free' (he
first category of businessmen are less than #W' 6ajority of the
businessmen in our country want to do business honestly'
A businessman creates wealth and provides employment' Out of his
profits, he pays taes, runs his family and does charity' %e ought to be
honored for that' %owever, the system treats him as a thief and a dacoit'
/or instance, in Dellhi, the whole system of MA( has deliberately been kept
comple' 2t is etremely difficult to comply with it' So traders are forced to
pay bribes' AAP would simplify these systems'
Aam Aadmi Party CAAP would create a business environment where
people can do business honestly' AAP would remove all legal and
administrative obstacles that eist today in doing honest business' =ather
than act as an obstacle, AAP would create an environment thatencourages and facilitates business'
.hy does it happen that a person faces so much problem when he tries to
start a business in 2ndia but he does so well when he goes to the
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.ith best regards,
Arvind 8ejriwal
,/ :O,,EN9
(his is typical of Arvind' (O(A> 1O-/
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etrapolations, whereas there is constant strateic actionFreaction and
selfBadjustment in economics.(hatNs why Arvind 8ejriwal is
comprehensively confused'
And since he is arrogant as well, he has refused to either read my book ordiscuss issues with a view to understanding them' %e therefore
1O-(2->2(0=A(0'
Notin muc can be done for AA-. It must be written off.2 would
strongly urge people to -O( vote for AAP'
Stick with P of >ok Satta' Although he is not an economist but a Cmedical
doctor, he has put in effort to learn about the human mind Chence
economics' (here is also some hope with 6odi who seems to be
somewhat open to economics E but 2 canNt really say till 2 see 6odiNs
policies'
3ut forget Arvind' %e is a confused socialist CthatNs what he really is P>
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G' 1onclusive evidence that Arvind issocialist
G'# 1an 2 see Arvind 8ejriwals theory of state Cor of Anna%aFare, please+=anganath =, a talented writer, has been trying to show methat the
public donNt really care about who is leading this movement against
corruption, so long as they get some relief' (hey are therefore Luite happy
with tokenism about ?andhi and the whole lot, without bothering about
the underlying principles'
3ut let me re9phrase the key points 2Nm making, so people understand that
2Nm -O( bothered about analysing the movement from sociological or
other perspectives, nor am 2 bothered about the reason why people are
happy to think of A% as a kind of ?andhi'
2nstead, 2Nm into analysing issues from first principles, and seeing how
these actions fit my theory of society'
As you might be aware by now, 2Nm writing a book, ")Fin which 2 analyse
human nature, our evolutionary history, and propose a teory of state,
which turns out to be very close to the standard Qclassical liberalQ model'3ut of course there is no universally accepted Qclassical liberalQ model Cfor
2 differ in part from >ocke, Smith, even %ayek E and each of these differs
with others in certain details, as well, my theory is best seen as
a versionof classical liberalism, and so 2 say that 2Nm a classical liberal
within the broad meaning of that word'
(hat my theory is -O( collectivist Cor a branch, such as socialist,
communist, fascist, /abian socialist, 8eynesian, or social democratic and
-O( feudal Cor a branch, such as oligarchic or aristocratic, or monarchic,
means it is classical liberal'
2 wonNt go into details of my theory of state here, since the book Cif
finished, and if published would run into around !"" printed pages, but
2Nve looked at the current street democracy promoted by 2A1 Cwhich is fine
in principle with the lens ofmy teory' 2Nm -O( bothered about how
popular or populist it is, but about the validity of its theory of state'
Incentives
(he fact that 2A1 doesnt have any foundational, consistent theory of
society, nor any understanding of economics and incentives, has meant
that this populist movement has consistently stayed on the surface of
things and hasnNt addressed underlying incentives and causes'
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.hy is punishment Cincluding in the case of A%, physically beating poor,
illiterate people more important than incentivising people, motivating
people+ (hat is because 2A1Ns theory Cand =amdevNs, too assumes that
some people are 3O=- good, and some are 3O=- bad' (hey are the 3O=-
good, and the politicians Cand QdrunkardsQ are 3O=- bad'
Such a theory is not articulated clearly but its implication is that it directly
opposes the concept of democratic republic, and leads us to monarchy or
some other form of dictatorship, where the QaristocratsQ, the Q?andhians
in white topisQ, or Qthose elevated by -obel or 6agsaysay committeesQ
are fit to rule, and the others are fit to S0=M0 them' 0ffectively this is the
model of the an >okpal 3ill'
According to this theory, the QgoodQ people will run the country, and the
others will S0=M0 them'
Such a theory has -O P>A10 for normal democratic process or debate in
parliament' 2t sees the parliament as a S0=MA-( O/ (%0S0 ?OOD P0OP>0'
As youNll know 2 stronly disareewith such a theory of state' (o me this
is anti9democratic, anti9liberty and hence very Luestionable' According to
me A>> P0OP>0 Cincluding me have the potential to be both good and
evil' .hat is actually epressed is a function of incentives'
2n my house my son was allowed to consume alcohol the day he became
#: years old'
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2n DO/ one of the things 2 discuss is the QrightQ to kill oneself, including
through fasts9to9death, religious fasting, etc' (o me the (%0O=; behind
such things is crucial' 2 need to know .%; someone believes that fasting
unto death is valid' 2m not really bothered about what the people think
about it'
As you might know 2ve changed my mind on fasting unto death E and my
original position in Cdraft DO/ is now far more nuanced' 3asically the only
eception 2 still make is for someone to use it to directly SAM0
lives' 1ertain fasts unto death are S(2>> valid E even in democracy, e'g' to
save lives in a communal riot E although my preference is for Luick stern
action by government to shoot the rioters below their knees and stop such
madness immediately' 2n other words, 2Nm -O( a ?andhian, but 2 can
understand why someone fasting to death to save lives could be doing the
right thing'
2Nm -O( interested in anydefence of ?andhi or %aFare nor in any direct
comparison' 2m into the (%0O=; of fasting to death' 2Nm interested in
finding out .%21% conditions allow someone to use a fast unto death in a
/
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2t is that theory that 2 seek' :ould anyone please point me in te
rit direction # to te teoretical writins of Arvind Kejriwal0
Kiran =edi0 or Anna 'a)are
G' Arvind 8ejriwals theory of the state J#/ollowing on from my blog post here, 2 found a few minutes to go through
this document C1omprehensive -ote on Swaraj available at 8ejriwalNs
website) http)**www'lokrajandolan'org*download'html
Assuming this is 8ejriwalsN theory Calthough not a comprehensive theory of
state let me note at the outset that its broad thrust E of greater local
government and more direct representation E is almost entirely
consistent with what 2Nve been writing about Cin terms of local
government reforms' (he classical liberal model isstronlycompatible
with subsidiarity'
%owever, 8ejriwal goes overboard and makes too many wild assertions'
(hus, he says) Qwe inherited from the 3ritish too many of governmental
systems that were wolly unsuitedto our values and needsQ' (hese are
fighting words E and might even represent some misguided %indutva
conservatism'
3ut remember, our 1onstitution was written 0-(2=0>; 3; 2-D2A-S' 9o
suest tat India$s constituent assembly was a bunc of fools
wo were merely copyin institutions tat te =ritis adcreated0 and merely created a system incompatible wit our
values and needs >watever tese are@0 is a serious error of fact.
2ndeed, 8ejriwal will be well advised to study the history of democracy and
note that 0nglish democracy itself Cwhich allowed universal suffrage only
by #B:, was evolving even as 2ndiaNs democracy was designed a few
decades later'
(o suggest that we have merely copied
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E nor the necessary change in incentives needed in 2ndia' 2Nd urge him to
read 3/- Cand the online notes'
/inally, 8ejriwalNs handbillsays) Q2n last @" years, we have tried every
political party and every politician' 3ut things have gone from bad toworse' 6erely changing parties and politicians wonNt help'Q
(hatNs a S0=2O;
socialist parties' .hat can possibly be epected from socialist parties
ecept Qscheme rajQ Cthe multiplicity of schemes to Qremove povertyQ and
total misgovernance+ Socialism is the underlying cause of 2ndiaNs
misgovernance, but 8ejriwalNs paper doesnNt even show the =06O(0S(
understanding of that' %e imagines that simply by having more local
power things will become miraculously better'
Once again 2 invite 8ejriwal to read 3/- and to consider revising his ideas
to understand the causes of 2ndiaNs misgovernance'
(here is -O(%2-? intrinsically wrong with 2ndiaNs model' 2t just needs to be
modernised and made incentive9compatible' And we need to discard
socialism in every form and shape' (hese QschemesQ that 8ejriwal talks of,
must go'
G'$ 1onclusive evidence that Arvind 8ejriwal is a hard core
socialistA lot of Arvind 8ejriwal supporters like to delude themselves that Arvind is
an open9minded thinker'
%e is notI %e is a hard core socialist'
-ot only are his ideas clearly socialist, he is surrounded by communists
like Prashant 3hushan Chis main funding source and ;ogendra ;adav, for
whom total economic eLuality is the only driving force, and for whom big
government is the only way to achieve their goals'
-ationalisation, increasing the number of social welfare programs, andfiing prices is A>> they talk about' .hatNs this known as+ Socialism'
2 reLuest those who believe Arvind is -O( a socialist to please go through
these bog posts that 2Nve put out over the past #: months or so'
.e can then discuss further, if you still think A8 is an advocate of liberty'
.hy delude yourself+
>oknayak ayaprakash -arayan would have (O(A>>; opposed Arvind
8ejriwalNs version of socialism
/urther perspectives on Arvind 8ejriwal, and reLuest for more info'
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>oknayak ayaprakash -arayan would have (O(A>>; opposed Arvind
8ejriwals version of Swaraj
>oknayak ayaprakash -arayan would have (O(A>>; opposed Arvind
8ejriwalNs version of socialism
8ejriwalNs socialist broom will drive out the best talent from 2ndia
6y second comment on Arvind 8ejriwalNs Swaraj
0conomics lesson J# for Arvind 8ejriwal E an economics illiterate
0conomics lesson J for Arvind 8ejriwal E an economics illiterate
6y position on Arvind 8ejriwal, to clear the air for everyone
2ndiaNs 6OS( /OO>2S% man on the topic of corruption) Arvind 8ejriwal
Anna, Arvind 8ejriwalNs book, Swaraj, although interesting, is -O( the
solution to 2ndiaNs problemsI
Some thoughts on Arvind 8ejriwalNs model of governance
Dear Arvind, the only path to corruption9free 2ndia is through policies of
liberty
Arvind 8erjriwal is a self9proclaimed socialist E thus an enemy of 2ndia,
along with other socialists
Arvind 8ejriwalNs theory of the state J#
1an 2 see Arvind 8ejriwalNs theory of state Cor of Anna %aFare, please+
Arvind 8ejriwal, you say that you are willing to listen to better ways to
fight corruption+ (hen here they are
G'7 1onclusive evidence that Arvind 8ejriwal is a hard coresocialist J
6y first post on this topic, being a compilation of evidence accumulatedover well over a year, was prompted by the following (witter conversation)
2t is clear that Surajit Dasgupta, who has some broad sense of economics,
is badly deluded about ArvindNs worldview, which is P; leftist'
0veryone has a view, and it is impossible to be into politics witout a
view about te relationsip between citi)ens and te state' 9at
view0 in te case of Arvind0 is socialist.
>etNs review what Surajit has written in defence of ArvindNs ideology)
(he thousands of largely urbane youth that poured into the streetsfollowing the call by Anna in April and August "## are not interested in
reressive socialism of Indira ?andiHs vintae' /urther, if after
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raising a hue and cry over governments corruption all powers are
returned to that very government, it would be a betrayal of peoples trust'
So te yout li"e me came in to ma"e te movement stay on
course.
And we found to our sheer joy that the alternative system being proposed
by the members of the -ational 0ecutive of the AAP was indeed not
hackneyed' 2ts unfair to look at them as socialists Cin the sense that this
term typically conveys, notwithstanding the fact that all political parties
registered with the 0lection 1ommission of 2ndia have to pledge on paper
that they would be socialist'
(he whole AAP team now X with social justice champion ;ogendra ;adav
and free market advocates like 6ayank ?andhi, Prithvi =eddy, me and
many of the thinking minds that attend the partys policy meetings alike
X is pushing for a new era where civic amenities would be manaed
by ram sabasCin villages and mohalla sabhas Cin cities thrust would
be on conservation of nature natural resources would need community
clearances to be eploited ealt and education would be state
priorities competition would be allowed werever competition is
possible secularismwould be observed in the strictest sense, moving
away from turn9by9turn communalism practised by the 1ongress*SP and
the 3P foreign policy will be determined by reciprocity, etc'
2 hope this is the course the ?andhian 8ejriwal stays' And for information
of all and sundry, once and for all, ?andhism is not C2ndian socialism'T+an(eev: 0 trust you are aare that Landhi as in many ays a classical
liberal, even anarcho liberal$ He totally opposed socialism$U' 2ts a distinct
school of thought' ayaprakash -arayan, =am 6anohar >ohia et al and
their followers thought otherwise because they were suffering from a
hangover of 6arism which they grew up on during their formative years'
(he model 2 have just eplained finds no place in Das 8apital' 2f the AAP
assumes power and then imposes on the country a Pranab 6ukherjee9
style economic thought, massive disappointment and desertions will
follow' As an insider, 2ll try not to let that happen'
2Nll use this information, plus information 2Nve already discussed in the past,
to bring together a 1O-1>
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imagined in their model that simply by having more local power things will
become miraculously better' (here is no mention of defence of our liberty
as the O->; reason for the eistence of government' 2t is often, under
A8Ns model, possible for liberty to be crushed just because a local
collectivist body CQgram sabha is not >0SS of a state than a QbigQgovernment decides to do so' AK$s model is not :ON+9I9G9IONA/
:ON+:*I=E(' 2t is based on (O(A> faith in the collective, and total
disregard for the individual and his*her liberty'
ANOK-A0 /E9 ANO9'E* ?ODE*N,EN9 =O(/0 I+ =A+E( ON
+O:IAI+9 A++G,-9ION+
A small an >okpal may be relevant at a certain stage in 2ndiaNs
development, but by missing the 1A
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.hy stay in a country that 2-S(S your talent and hard work+
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