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Some Ancient Greek examples of how "Natural Born Citizens" were at those times defined and why Barack Obama would not be ruled as a US NBC according to their usage This is a supplemental to Barack Hussein Obama II, Usurper of the United States Presidency If we were to go back to Greek sources like Aristotle, we would see that though the situation of what defined citizenship (and legience) may have pragmatically varied (being relaxed) in times of dearth or in war (Aristotle, Politics Book 3.5). But in times of prosperity, the 2 parent rule in defining citizenship (and a natural-born legience) was not only the ideal, but preferred as a norm, and appears to have been an ancient means to "restrict" immigration and growth from those not "jus soli". By example, Aristotle, the Athenian Constitution, 2.26, (translated by Frederick G. Kenyon) “…it was resolved, on the motion of Pericles, that no one should admitted to the franchise who was not of citizen birth by both parents.http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/athenian_const.2.2.html I still contend that the best and most correct application of citizenship, as it regards "natural-born" subjects, must be focused on through paternity, the Father, in US Supreme Court Law. “Natural born citizen” is a term from Constitutional Federal Law. In 1797, Vattel's Law of Nations English Edition in London England translated Section 212 “Indigenes” as “natural-born citizens". This was consistent with Ben Franklin’s 1775 French copy of Vattel’s Law of Nations, in which an amended phrase of

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A few examples of how autochthon and indigene disqualify Obama from being a US Natural Born Citizen...such as Plato inferring 3 paternal generations born to the soil before such a term could be applied.

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Some Ancient Greek examples of how "Natural Born Citizens" were at those times defined and why Barack Obama would not be ruled as a US NBC according to their usage

This is a supplemental to  Barack Hussein Obama II, Usurper of the United States Presidency

If we were to go back to Greek sources like Aristotle, we would see that though the situation of what defined citizenship (and legience) may have pragmatically varied (being relaxed) in times of dearth or in war (Aristotle, Politics Book 3.5). But in times of prosperity, the 2 parent rule in defining citizenship (and a natural-born legience) was not only the ideal, but preferred as a norm, and appears to have been an ancient means to "restrict" immigration and growth from those not "jus soli". By example, Aristotle, the Athenian Constitution, 2.26, (translated by Frederick G. Kenyon)“…it was resolved, on the motion of Pericles, that no one should admitted to the franchise who was not of citizen birth by both parents.“ http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/athenian_const.2.2.html I still contend that the best and most correct application of citizenship, as it regards "natural-born" subjects, must be focused on through paternity, the Father, in US Supreme Court Law.

“Natural born citizen” is a term from Constitutional Federal Law.  In 1797, Vattel's Law of Nations English Edition in London England translated Section 212 “Indigenes” as “natural-born citizens".  This was consistent with Ben Franklin’s 1775 French copy of Vattel’s Law of Nations, in which an amended phrase of clarification, “des citoyens et naturels" appeared as the explanatory of the “indigenes” usage.

Many of the Founding Fathers both spoke and read French. Those like Alexander Hamilton, by the time of the Articles of the Confederacy, in 1782, had read and wrote thoughts regarding his reading Vattel's Law of Nations. We have yet to hear as to what French Edition of Vattel’s Law of Nations that George Washington checked out of a New York Public Library and never returned.

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http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/04/17/2010-04-17_read_it__weep_by_george_prez_racks_up_300g_late_fee_for_two_books.html Natural Citizens who are indigenous were hence translated as “Natural-born Citizens”. That is how the English translator views the term “indigenous” in 1797; and it is likely, based on Ben Franklin’s 1775 copy, that the Founding Fathers who specifically wrote the Constitutional Article 2.1 “natural born” provision, also viewed it as so defined as well.  In other words, “natural born citizen” was a term more deeply involved than the generic “native”, those who were full citizens and classified as inhabitants who made their home and identity with a location. In the 1700s, with respects to the Colonies, some natives were original, some were pioneer founders. There was also a synonymous parallel that could be drawn with the “savage” cultures in which Indians were “natives” of a land as far as their oral history could remember (perhaps 600 years or more).  An indigene is from the Latin, “indigena”: in (in) + gen (to beget).

In the Bible, the lineages are that Abraham begat Isaac, Isaac begat Jacob, and so on. Among the ancient Greeks, the same discrimination was present and so stated by their writings.

Someone who is “indigenous, is defined as someone who is born of a particular race that is associated or attached to the country he/she is born in. They are produced and arise naturally in the locale they are brought up in, by two domestics: a father and a mother. To be indigenous in antiquity, they must be attached to the soil multi-generationally, and to the father’s multi-generational paternal lineage. Oftentimes the name of the people went back many centuries to their patriarch from which they sprang whom first inhabited the lands from which they were planted and themselves sprang up, as it were. In nature, a crossing of a foreign and a domestic produces a Hybrid…it is not an “indigenous” species, so neither is Barack Jr. an indigenous or US natural born citizen, even if he were born in the US (which two high officials in the nation of Kenya, and Nairobi’s own media disputes, citing Kenya as the place where Obama Jr. was born).  

Liddell, Henry George ; Robert Scott; A Greek-English Lexicon, (Revised by Henry Stuart Jones and Roderick McKenzie) Oxford. Clarendon Press. 1940...defines the ancient Greek word autochthon αὐτό-χθων as:"Sprung from the land itself" and as the adjective "indigenous,

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native".

Herodotus, in his "Histories", uses autochthon in the sense of both original and ancient. Hence, one who is native and of long standing in the land...often in the sense of ages and many centuries before others came and attached themselves or pushed out those that preceded them.

Herodotus, The Histories, 1.171.5 A. D. Godley. Cambridge. Harvard University Press, 1920, translates as:

“…the Carians themselves do not subscribe to it, but believe that they are aboriginal inhabitants of the mainland and always bore the name which they bear now.”

The relevant Greek text reads αὐτόχθονας for the English translation of aboriginal.

Later in the same translation of Herodotus, The Histories, 4.197.2, the Greek text reads:αὐτόχθονα and αὐτόχθονες for the below translations as aboriginal

[2] I have this much further to say of this country: four nations and no more, as far as we know, inhabit it, two of which are aboriginal and two not; the Libyans in the north and the Ethiopians in the south of Libya are aboriginal; the Phoenicians and Greeks are later settlers.

When looking to Plato for advice, we see that he places the emphasis on a plural of fathers (2 forefather generations or more) that are required to be born in the land as well as the one born, or 3 generations born on the soil, to be called indigenous or "natural born" stock. It is a nuance most people miss in the first reading.

Plato, in Menexenus 237b - 237c, states:[237b]: "… thereafter we shall exhibit the character of their exploits, how nobly and worthily they wrought them. Now as regards nobility of birth, their first claim thereto is this -- that the forefathers of these men were not of immigrant stock, nor were these their sons declared by their origin to be strangers in the land sprung from immigrants, but natives sprung from the soil living and dwelling in their own true fatherland; and nurtured also by no stepmother, like other folk, but by that

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mother-country [237c] wherein they dwelt, which bare them and reared them and now at their death receives them again to rest in their own abodes.

W.R.M. Lamb translates autochthon as a native sprung up from the soil in 1925. The immediate above passage comes from: Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 9 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1925.

The SAME translation was consistently done in the following year with Demosthenes, when the equally credentialed team of C.A. Vince and J.H. Vince translated the Greek ofμόνοι γὰρ πάντων αὐτόχθονες ὑμεῖς ἐστε κἀκεῖνοιas:"for you and they are the only indigenous peoples in Greece—“

The passage comes from Demosthenes, On the False embassy, 19.261; but it is in 19.260 that we learn that it is the "men of Athens" who are the only indigenous people...not in the specifically mentioned Land of Greece...but in the place or region in which they found themselves at. Hence, the translators infer Greece by the context of the speakers words of implication and apparent intent.

Perhaps it would have better been read to something after this effect:“…men of Athens…for alone sprung up from the land itself you are in the manner and place of this region [Greece].” (Demosthenes, English translation by C. A. Vince, M. A. and J. H. Vince, M.A. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1926).

In his Funeral Speech, 60.4,7 Demosthenes in the English translation from Norman W. DeWitt, Ph.D., and Norman J. DeWitt, Ph.D. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1949, states:

4] The nobility of birth of these men has been acknowledged from time immemorial by all mankind. For it is possible for them and for each one of their remote ancestors man by man to trace back their being, not only to a physical father, but also to this land of theirs as a whole, a common possession, of which they are acknowledged to be the indigenous children.

For alone of all mankind they settled the very land from which

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they were born and handed it down to their descendants, so that justly one may assume that those who came as migrants into their cities and are denominated citizens of the same are comparable to adopted children; but these men are citizens of their native land by right of legitimate birth.

7] For the ancestors of this present generation, both their fathers and those who bore the names of these men in time past, by which they are recognized by those of our race, never at any time wronged any man, whether Greek or barbarian, but it was their pride, in addition to all their other good qualities, to be true gentlemen and supremely just, and in defending themselves they accomplished a long list of noble deeds.

Note the pattern: It is the father, the lineage through the father, and the name of the father

that determines one's indigenous or "natural born identity",

in conjunction to the land from which they and their father spring from.

If the son is not born in the land of his father, he is a foreigner of the land of his foreign father, even when born in a foreign land.

In regard to Barack Hussein Obama, the ancient Greeks would rule that it is impossible for Barack Hussein Obama II to be anything other than an indigenous or natural born KENYAN, and that this is proven by the nationality and location of his forefathers.

Again, Plato seems to place an indigenous stock to that of great-grandchildren born in the land...so that if a third generation is born to the soil, only then can we apply the term native, indigenous, natural born, autochthon.

Is there some validation in the Greek for that? Yes.

παλαίχθων palaichthon has also found use in ancient Greek to help us identify and define what a "natural born citizen" is, or at least was, in the

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mind and interpretations of the Greeks.

παλαίχθων palaichthon means to the effect of: "an ancient or long-standing inhabitant of a country or place", inferring that indigenous is multi or many generations in the nature of the word.

Hence, "natural born" in the sense of how it was understood from the time the Middle Age monks and other duplicate copied, and/or translated the Greek Historians like Herodotus, or great thinkers like Plato, is likely to have been passed on as those who are of the stock of the first national identity and ethnicity of the land through their fathers, and are able to MULTI-GENERATIONALLY trace such a lineage in the soil through the father.

Even the Minor Attic writer, Hyperides, offers a solution for when a society is multi-cultural:

[7] To do so would, I think, be foolish. Granted, if one is praising men of a different stamp, such as have gathered from diverse places into the city which they inhabit, each contributing his lineage to the common stock, then one must trace their separate ancestry.

But from one who speaks of Athenians, born of their own country and sharing a lineage of unrivalled purity, a eulogy of the descent of each must surely be superfluous.

(Hyperides, Funeral Oration, 6.7; Minor Attic Orators, vol. 2English translation by J. O. Burtt, M.A. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1962).

And we must remember that when one traces his ancestry in Greece and among the Hebrews in the Bible, it is the father who is prominently counted.

In order to have credibility and legitimacy, the paternal lineages of society were what mattered in determining one's indigenous status, be you a citizen of and in ancient Greece or ancient Israel.

The 4 earliest tribes of Greece from the times of the Cataclysm and in the generations before Ceres/IO married Osiris of Egypt and enjoined Attics with Egypt by becoming benefactor Queen Isis, were: Cecropis (Κεκροπίς), Autochthon (Αὐτόχθων), Actaea (Ἀκταία), and Paralia (Παραλία).

Ceres appears to have been attached to those of the Autochthon tribal

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origins, and as Queen Isis of Egypt, she became known to the Greeks as IO, or along the concept of:“/O from this beginning point (the slash / ), we mark our eternity (eternity like living waters and a rainbow in the proto-semitic Hebrew was the ‘ayin” or a circle - O )”

Hence, as we see the Semitic language and concept in Europe (such as Linear A showing that places like Greek had an ancient Semitic dialect), we find that the ancient Biblical and ancient Greek often meshes and compliments in odd sorts of places.

In the isle of Crete, several hundred clay tablets were discovered as dating from the Late Bronze Age, or immediately following the rule of these Syrian Pharaohs of Egypt (ca. 1550 - 1200 B.C.). 

The tablets labeled Linear A and a later set labeled Linear B, used ideograms: pictures acting as a multi-linguistic dialectical dictionary within Semitism.  These incorporated what was at first a Semitic form of Mycenaean (ancient Achaean) Greek, transposed against Hebrew, Ugaritic, and Akkadian pronunciations. 

Cyrus Gordon was thus able to show that the Philistine false deity of Dagon, and the Philistine king of Gerar, were every bit as Semitic as the Hebrews were. (Biblical Archaeology Review, Vol. 26, No.6,, Nov/Dec 2000 - pp. 60-61; “Against the Tide: Interview with Maverick Scholar Cyrus Gordon.”)

At or about the time of Egypt pumping money into very ancient Athens, (the 1410s -1390s B.C.), establishing commerce, and sharing the wealth of its education with ancient Athens... we see that the name of Autochthon (for whatever reason) first changed to Atthis (Ἀτθίς), and later on Atthis was subsequently later changed to Athenaïs (Ἀθηναΐς). Athenaïs, as you may well know, designates both those of the city and of the ethnic tribal race derived from those who first settled what we now call Athens, having first settled there after the Cataclysm.

In Latin, a like term as Autochthon (Αὐτόχθων) is "terrigena": "born of and sprung from the earth" implies a permanency of residence from birth to a single soil and a single people.

Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus infers this in regard to discussing who were the indigenes of Britain:

"Who were the original inhabitants of Britain, whether they were indigenous or foreign, is, as usual among barbarians, little known."

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(Cornelius Tacitus, The Life of Cnæus Julius Agricola, 11).

The Latin reads: Ceterum Britanniam qui mortales initio coluerint, indigenae an advecti, ut inter barbaros, parum compertum.

In regard to the founding of this nation, the United States of America, those who swore legience to it at the beginning from July 4, 1776 to the ratification of the US Constitution, were ruled as "indigenous" by rule of law. And by a correct interpretation of US Law, we must follow those guidelines as to what allows for how a natural born citizen in the United States is defined.

Although we may find a new extreme that may argue that a natural born citizen Constitutionally requires one to have a perpetual paternal lineage to the founders…I believe such an extremist position will be very few in number, and less legally viable. On the other extreme, the fullest liberal allowance in Constitutional interpretation without violating it, is what Senator Bayard argued with A.P. Hinman about in regard to Chester A. Arthur...that a man who emigrates to the US and becomes its citizen, and has a son born here, as long as the father naturalizes to the US by the child's 21st birthday, the child born here might be ruled a US Natural Born Citizen.

But no matter what lenience we allow, Barack never makes the cut. Even with the ancient Greeks there was an apparent unspoken prerequisite involving both one's socio-awareness and intelligence in civilized societies as to one's own ethnic and national /familial identity among these ancients that seems to have been forgotten and almost lost to us in our own Day.

Again, an indigene is from the Latin, “indigena”: in (in) + gen (to beget).

Someone who is “indigenous, is defined as someone who is born of a particular race that is associated or attached to the country he/she is born in. They are produced and arise naturally in the locale they are brought up in, generally most always by two domestics...but most certainly always by the paternal attachments to the land and peoples. Barack Obama has NO such "natural born" or "indigenous" attachments here in the US...they are in Kenya alone.

In nature, a crossing of a foreign and a domestic produces a Hybrid…it is not an “indigenous” species, so neither is Barack Jr. an indigenous or US natural born citizen, even if he were born in the US (which two high officials in the nation of Kenya, and Nairobi’s own media disputes, citing Kenya as the place where Obama Jr. was born).

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Thus, the Obama ancestry and natural born or indigenous attachment follows the father, and Barack Obama (regardless of what his forged short form Birth Certification says) is US Constitutionally INELIGIBLE to the US Presidency, and is guilty of High Crimes and Misdemeanors as a USURPER of the office which he now possesses and/or occupies.

I hope I have helped readers to 'discover" or "rediscover" what "natural born citizen" meant and was understood as by the Founding Father's of the United States of America, some of whom very likely read such Greek works as mentioned and cited above.