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OscillatorDry Transformer

Tank Circuit

DisconnectDisconnect

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Earth groundEarth Ground Earth Ground

resistor

vari cap

variable inductor

4 gauge solid wire in all inductors and oscillatoralso for connection from antenna to spark gap.

Quadruple the number of 4 gauge wires fromthe spark gap to the earth ground.

Modified Tesla Radiant Energy Collector

All loads must have a separate Earth ground to completethe circuit.

Radiant Energy There is a way to have your cake and eat it too! Go back to Tesla's original experiments with tapping the electro sphere of the Earth with the radiant energy collector. Tesla discovered a 'cold electricity' that he said had a spiral transmission wave to it. In his patent, Tesla said he mounted a plate of steel or brass on a flag pole and placed a brass plate in the ground. In between the two, he placed a tuned tank circuit set to resonate near the standing wave frequency of the Earth. He paralleled the tunable tank circuit to a spark gap with carbon electrodes. The conductors he used would limit the amount of current he could pass and an air core transformer fed by the spark gap (pulsed DC) allowed him to derive pulsed AC or DC from the setup at whatever voltage he chose. Remember, the size of the conductors in the transformer and spark gap, and between the antenna and the spark gap determine the amount of current that can pass. Updated to today, the antenna needs to be a flat spiral wound to resonate at the resonant frequency of the energy to be transferred from the electro sphere to the ground through the spark gap. The tank circuit in parallel allows you to tune the circuit to pass current. The closer to the standing wave resonant frequency the tank circuit comes, the more current is passed to the spark gap and on to ground. I am experimenting with flat spiral wound antennas made of copper tubing, 1/4,1/2, and ¾ inch diameters so far, but may have to go as high as 2 inches in diameter. I started with 50 foot rolls of copper tubing, and have made some coils with 100 feet of copper tubing. I sandwich the coils between sheets of lexan. I've found the insulated leads from the antenna coil to the spark gap and ground plate needs to be solid copper wire. I started with solid 4 guage copper wire and now have solid 2-0 wire. The electro sphere is actually the Ionosphere of the Earth and receives Mega Joules of energy in the form of ionizing radiation everyday from the sun. The sun never sets on at least half of the ionosphere each day. The ionosphere collects a net positive charge. The Earth is always at a net negative charge. The photon charge carrier pairs flow from positive to negative, so, contrary to what some scientists say, lightning DOES ionize a path and flow from the cloud to the ground.

Anyway, it is possible to direct and control kilowatts of electrical energy with this set up. It does NOT require a battery or external power to a circuit to initiate transfer of energy. It does take a little while for the ionized path to the ionosphere to form once the tank circuit is tuned, but once this happens,a continuous flow of energy can be derived that is not dependent on the sun shining in your area. This is not practical for those of you living in a city because of the size of the equipment and the flow of energy---probably a city would have an ordinance against erecting such an antenna. Thought you'd all like to know about this. Lawrence Rayburn From: "Samantha Rayburn" <srayburn@...> Date: Sun Nov 23, 2003 6:28 pm Subject: Radiant Energy lawrencerayburn I have 35 mm pictures, no digital pictures yet. So, I am not ready to post digital pictures of the set up yet. For powering a home, 3/4 inch copper tubing, 50 feet, wound in in a right hand spiral with 1 inch spacing between spirals works as the antenna. Place this antenna on a fiberglass pipe mast 30 feet above the ground. Run 4 guage insulated solid copper wire from the antenna to one side of the carbon arc spark gap, quadruple the insulated 4 guage solid wire to the ground plate (4 foot square steel, or a coil of braided uninsulated ground wire---the bigger the better) buried at least 3 feet deep in the earth from the other side of the spark gap. Set the spark gap at 1/2 inch. Run the insulated 4 guage from the antenna/spark gap connection through an insulated 600 volt fused single or three phase disconnect switch (you'll use only one leg in the switch) and feed the tank circuit with the 4 guage conductor. Parallel 4 500mfd capacitors with a 10 K Ohm 10 turn variable resistor, and terminate one side of the tank circuit through another insulated disconnect switch to a ground rod driven 10 feet into the earth. This is your load circuit. Attach whatever you wish to operate to this lead before the disconnect and run the load through amatching transformer to get the required voltage and amperage you want. ALWAYS open the disconnect on the ground circuit to kill the power, then open the disconnect before the tank circuit to isolate the voltage/current controls. The spark gap will arc occasionally when the charge builds up with

the system off. Nothing to worry about. When the tank circuit is tuned to near the resonant frequency, it takes several seconds to a few minutes for the atmospheric charge to charge the capacitors in the tank circuit and bring it to resonance. As resonance is established, an ionized path to the ionosphere forms between the antenna coil and the ionosphere. The closer to perfect resonance the antenna/tank circuit is, the greater the energy transfer to ground. Thus, you establish a controllable ionized conductive conduit for energy transfer from the ionosphere to Earth ground, and you siphon what you need from it for your purposes. The beauty of this system is that I have been able to salvage most of the materials used in it for little or no cost. The 2 inch antenna/conductor system is intended to power center pivot irrigation sprinkler systems that have 300 to 500 Hp electric motors on them pumping from 900 feet deep wells. This requires producing three phase electricity 480 volts/500 amps. So, the demo model will have truly massive conductors. I am doing this to develop my own farm and to help the farmers around me, because electricity costs are driving them out of business with the water requirements in this sustained drought. I got interested in this many years ago, but had not pursued it to this extent until lately. I figured if Tesla could produce such energy in Colorado Springs a hundred years ago, long before there were transmission lines in the area, I could do the same thing and supply the farmers. By the way, guys, any load you put on the circuit between the tank circuit and the disconnect to the ground needs its own independent earth ground to complete the circuit. For homes, when you bring the circuit off the tank circuit to ground leg, you will be getting DC voltage that you must run through an oscillator (100 turns 4 guage insulated solid wire on a 6 inch PVC core, with 20 turns of 4 guage insulated solid wire on a 4 inch pvc core, nested one inside the other.) One side of the primary must be grounded to Earth ground. A variable capacitor 500 mfd from the earth ground of the primary to the secondary common ground will enable you to set the frequency of the oscillator at 60 Hertz. Then run the ouput through a standard dry type transformer to get the single phase voltage and amperage you need. 120/240 single phase at up to 50 amps can be derived this way---that's about 12,000 watts---plenty for a household. Looking up at the antenna coil, it is wound clockwise.

Yes, the copper tubing coil antenna works much better than a plate of ferrous metalj because it is very close to the physical dimensions ofthe spiral wave that transfers the energy from the ionosphere to the ground. It is far easier to tune to resonate if the physical dimensions of the antenna is close to the wave you wish to receive. The antenna should be placed horizontal to the ground to present the minimum cross sectional area for wind loading. Yes, the unit powers my rabbi try, the garage with my power equipment, and my Ham Radio shack. I plan to add the farmhouse to it and go completely off line by Christmas. I am still conducting tests on the system and I want to see if there are differences in the derived charge as the sunspot activity peaks and wanes. I plan to build kits with a fiberglass collapsible mast, copper tubing coils for the antenna and the ground, and a plug in pre wired tank circuit and a preset oscillator/transformer to derive household voltage and current----all as a kit with instructions. These will be available for sale by the spring of 2004. I am putting together the supply line of materials and lining up some people to do the fabricating of the kits. Since this is a derivative of Tesla's original patent, I am not seeking a patent on it. I am simply going to present it and sell it to people in rural areas. > actually tesla consumed the towns entire power production, which did nothing to help him out from a pr perspective. i think he pulsed at the earth resonant frequency ( schuman number is around 7.8 hz i think) > tim > Actually, Tim, Tesla never used Colorado Springs power system---because it did not exist in 1893-1898. The battery lights that were in operation there in Colorado Springs did grow very bright and flicker on and off as Tesla experimented with exciting the resonant tank circuit with a pulsed DC signal and then an RF signal, making a transmitter out of his apparatus. It was his discovery of sending reinforcing RF through the tank circuit that caused him to be able to "call" thunderstorms and to create ball lightning (high temperature plasmas). He found that if he injected a destructive harmonic RF signal into the tank circuit, he could cause the temperature to drop by tens of degrees around the apparatus. He later found he could transmit a low frequency destructive harmonic in the 28 to 32 Hertz

range and it would kill all life at the focal point of the transmitter (the node nadir) and at the antinode (zenith on the other side of the world). His experiment in 1908 with the positive reinforcing harmonic created huge plasma near Colorado Springs and in Siberia simultaneously. The plasma destroyed 50 square miles in Siberia and Tesla dismantled his machine shortly thereafter. He knew what he was talking about with regard to the separation of charge contained in the ionosphere (which he called the river of electricity) and the Earth ground. Separated by the atmosphere dielectric, the potential is there (according to Tesla) to power 100 MILLION horsepower! Because the Ionosphere is constantly bombarded by high energy particles from the sun, it is always gaining energy. What we manage to pull off it is miniscule compared to the potential and has little effect on our weather or environment. This CAN be a nonpolluting power source just as Tesla envisioned. Tesla used a plate for his antenna which is not as efficient as the copper coil antenna. In resonance, it shapes a magnetic field that captures and spins ions to form a conduit for potential charge transfer to the Earth ground. It does not require injection of electrical energy to make it work. It absorbs the electrical potential energy when in resonance which establishes the electrical charge conduit. That's why it takes some time for the field to establish itself and the conduit to form. But once formed, you can siphon off the power you want without affecting the conduit. Is that explanation clear enough?? > "I got interested in this many years ago, but had not pursued it to this extent until lately. I figured if Tesla could produce such energy in Colorado > Springs a hundred years ago, long before there were transmission lines in the area, I could do the same thing and supply the farmers. > I will try the fixes you guys suggest and see if I can get the drawing into a format that you can copy on the group. I have been working on miniaturizing the circuit and antenna to be able to get 12, 24, 36, or 48 volts DC at up to 50 amperes to drive an electric car like Tesla did with the 1931 Pierce Arrow. He used a 30 Hp brushless motor. I don't see why he went that route when he could have gone straight DC and made it much simpler. For some reason, however, that I have yet to understand, the antenna does not work well less than 10 feet above the ground. The higher you

go, the better it works. I don't have any 100 foot flag poles out here in West Texas to attach an antenna to. If I am able to strike a deal with Cingular wireless, I have access to a 250 foot three sided tower that is currently in pieces that could be erected on my property and rent space for a repeater. That would give me another, higher, platform to experiment with and provide a steady rental income to boot. Clear Day The diameter of the antenna coil is between 3.5 and 4 feet ( I did not measure it, because I was more interested in keeping the coils 1 inch apart and fit the whole thing on a half sheet of lexan.) The insulated 4 guage solid wire is commonly used in grounding circuits, which I do for a living as an electrician. A lot of these parts are salvaged from old power transmission equipment. So, yes I have huge variable capacitors, variable inductors, and power switching SCRs, FETs, and the like. No, so far I have heard no QRM on my HF or 2 meter Ham rigs, or on standard AM or FM broadcast bands. When the system is off and it occasionally builds up enough charge to arc across the spark gap to ground, yes, I do get a 'pop' on the radios, but in normal operation, no noise. I haven't noticed a significant signal change due to the setting of the sun or solar corona ejections or flares. I have two oscilloscopes, an old 1 Ghz Tektronics, and a B&K 100 Mhz scope. As the resonant circuit comes close to resonance, I get a laissez jous display that flattens along the horizontal axis as the frequency changes. I have not kept an accurate record in my journal of the frequencies, voltages, current, etc. at each point. That will come with time and further experimentation. Right now, I am too excited the thing works to get serious in my observations. I'm just playing with it right now. I will include some digital pictures of waveforms from various points on the collector at various frequencies as soon as Santa brings my digital camera. I am interested in making this device in kit form in various sizes for several different applications. I have to go to bed now. Tomorrow will be a long day at my day job. All you need is an enclosed relay with a 120 VAC coil connected

across the grid power line so the coil is energized and the normally open contacts are closed. Run the output of your Radiant Collector through the normally open contacts and into the meter. When the grid drops, the coil will de-energize and open the normally open contacts,taking your collector offline until power is restored. Simple circuit. A 35 foot tall wooden pole should work fine for this application. You can make the antenna coil the way I did out of 3/4 inch copper tubing, and you could use wooden stringers to keep it planarized and attached to the top of the pole horizontal to the ground. Most of the rest of the stuff should be available to you surplus from an electrician friend, or I can include the wire, spark gap, and ground rods with the already assembled and tuned tank circuit as part of the kit. It will all fit in a standard box and is UPS shippable. <cyclesandgardens@y...> wrote: > Tedla had a professional disagreement with Edison. > Tesla knew that AC would be transmitted over a grid > with far fewer losses that DB. Edison did not get the > > Idea. This animosity caused Tesla's shortsightedness’. > > You have awoken in me some old ideas I had. I remember > the static potential as about 100 volts per meter. I > live in a river valley, so the surrounding terrain > probably reduces this potential. 5 Kw would do mr if > I could stay connected to the grid and sell power back > to it. I have an old power pole I could erect. This > is only about 35 feet high but it is better that the > top of the garage. In order to make 5 Kw work and > sell power back to the grid (assuming the power > company lets me) there are two issues. > 1) phase matching > do you have a simple method? > 2 grid brownouts and power cutoffs. > When the grid goes down linemen work on the > line. I do not want to electrocute them. I need a > relay system to take me offline. Keep me up and > running. Furring brownouts and such, it would be nice > row avoids overloading the generator. > My last power bill put me in at 170 Kwh for a 30 day > period. Averaged out over the year, there should be > enough to supply my electricity AND heating needs > with 5 Kw. I have already converted to radiant floor > heat, and in the coldest of these Canadian winter days

> I use about 18 gigajoules of natural gas. This > conveerts yo 4200 wats of electricity on a 5o0 percenr > duty cycle, when the efficiency of my hot water tank > is factored in. > > It may be premature at this stage, but have you > considered these points? Can you point me in any > direction? Subject: Re: SmartDraw File Modified Tesla Radiant Energy Collector.sdr You can't be an Albert Shweitzer with someone else's idea. You'll notice I give Tesla the due credit for this device. I claim nothing for it. In order to make this worthwhile to me, I must withold the details of the variable inductor until the kits are on sale. There will be plenty of copycats in the few weeks after I begin selling kits and it'll be disseminated all over the world in short order. I make my living as an electrician for Bridgestone/Firestone tire manufacturers. What do you think the effect will be on the automotive industry with an unlimited supply of electrical power in a portable form? Automotive industry craters, tire industry craters, too. I put myself out of a job. That's okay with me, but there are a few things I'd like to do with my farm to become more self sufficient before I commit economic suicide, thank you very much! Lawrence Rayburn ----- Original Message ----- From: cliff pint To: Samantha Rayburn Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 1:10 AM Subject: Re: SmartDraw File Modified Tesla Radiant Energy Collector.sdr all i want is to help mankind, and yes , it should be free. Cliff

Samantha Rayburn <srayburn@...> wrote: Okay, but YOU are "strange". Want something for free, don't you? Well, there are no specifics on the variable inductor for that very reason.LR You can open this attachment with the Free SmartDraw Viewer. Download and install it in minutes from www.smartdraw.com/viewer.htm. > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/octet-stream name=Modified Tesla Radiant Energy Collector.sdr From: "Samantha Rayburn" <srayburn@...> Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:52 am Subject: Re: SmartDraw File Modified Tesla Radiant Energy Collector.sdr lawrencerayburn

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Nope! Not interested in notariety. There's not much to this circuit. I just figured since Tesla was big on variable inductors, he must have used one in the tank circuit to enable almost infinite ranges of resonant frequencies. That doesn't warrant putting my name on anything. The basic circuit has always been there and Tesla did it over 100 years ago. He deserves the credit. Re: SmartDraw File Modified Tesla Radiant Energy Collector.sdr i agree this world won't "wait for you" you MUST be given some credit somehow. at least NAME this modified circuit after yourself. From: "Samantha Rayburn" Jeez! Now there are at least 4 versions of the schematic in the files section! Are you guys so frustrated you must do ANYTHING to feel like you havecontributed? Get a life! This is just a format for experimentation with all the different frequencies the contraption can be made to resonate at and the energy that is

derivable from it. Just be careful with it. You could end up burning up a lab or home, kill yourself, orexpose yourself and others to radiation. Tesla did not have to worry with product liability laws 100 years ago. They are reality now and must be dealt with. That is why this is NOT my circuit. It belongs to Tesla. Lawrence Rayburn From: "Samantha Rayburn" <srayburn@...> Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:42 pm Subject: Re: Wow I'm very impressed lawrencerayburn

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First of all, Trent, this IS NOT free energy. This is not Over Unity.This is just a tunable conduit for the separated charges of the Ionosphere and the Earth to come together in a controllable fashion. My spark gap is just two copper clad carbon arc welding rods clamped with a gap between them. The antenna coil, when connected to the tank circuit, can be made to resonate at virtually any frequency from ELF to SHF. That's all Tesla did and I discovered nothing. I just read Tesla's notes and figured out how he must have achieved resonance with the device he described using the materials available at that time. He did not have an Armstrong oscillator like I used (though a Colpitts will work also). But, he made an infinitely variable inductor that I have only partially been able to fathom. I want no recognition for this circuit. It totally belongs to the man who first envisioned it, Tesla. My home farm and my garage/experimenter's shop are not open to visits by the

public. I like my privacy. When the kits are available, you'll be notified. Lawrence Rayburn From: "Rayburn, Lawrence" <srayburn@...> Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:11 pm Subject: Radiant Energy Collector lawrencerayburn

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Warning! I better not catch BAP or anyone else on this forum marketing plans for this Radiant Energy Collector anywhere else. A word to the wise, Bruce and anyone else. If this ends up benefitting mankind, I want the original inventor to get the credit. That inventor is, of course, Tesla. Lawrence Rayburn From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...> Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:17 pm Subject: Re: Wow I'm very impressed lawrencerayburn

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No, I don't want to 'call' thunderstorms or have lightning playing in my garage! To effectively call thunderstorms, Tesla rigged a transmitter up to the tank circuit and injected signals that attracted the thunderstorms to the ionized conduit as though it was a black hole for energy. I plan to explore that option later next year, but for now I am interested in stabilizing and standardizing the present circuit. Lawrence Rayburn

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There may be some who will try to block wholesale building of this Radiant Energy Collector by claiming it is inductively robbing power from the grid, but remember Tesla DEMONSTRATED this device before theturn of last century when there WAS NO power grid! He also used it todemonstrate ball lightning, or plasmas, at Colorado Springs in 1908. So, every time someone comes up with another argument to quash this circuit's development, just point them to the notes Tesla made over 100 years ago. Whatever Tesla, Stubblefield, T.T.Brown and others could do back then, we can do now. You just have to look at what they were doing and how they could achieve it with the materials of the time. Lawrence Rayburn From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...> Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:48 pm Subject: Re: Radiant Energy Collector lawrencerayburn

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Apply Occam's Razor here. Simply put, all things being equal, the simplest explanation is usually correct. Tesla was no fool. He said the charge came from the 'river of electricity' circling the world. He meant, of course, the Ionosphere that is air molecules ionized by constant bombardment by the sun. He said the Earth, the atmosphere, and the 'river of electricity' ionosphere formed a resonant cavity with the atmosphere a dielectric and the Earth and the ionosphere the two dipoles. He was not talking about a 'seething aether' around us. This is not rocket science, guys. Present day physics adequately explains this phenomenon. Don't go off on tangents and try to make this simple energy conduit into anything it is not. Much experimental observation needs to be done and documented to know exactly what to expect at different frequencies and different configurations of hardware. But remember, no matter how this

evolves, its root is exclusively Tesla's and any derivation should bear his name. Lawrence Rayburn From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...> Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 11:04 pm Subject: Re: Modified Tesla Radiant Energy Collector lawrencerayburn

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That's what the Armstrong oscillator is for. It imprints a 60 Hz signal on the output of the transformer. Going into the primary of the transformer, the input has no 60 Hertz ripple. LR -- In free-energy@yahoogroups.com, "MP" <mark@c...> wrote: > > It is just a matter of comparing frequency and phase at the output > with the grid frequency and phase. If you are robbing power from the grid, > the frequency and phase would be exactly the same ever. > > Mark From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...> Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 11:14 pm Subject: Re: Wow I'm very impressed lawrencerayburn

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I read all his notes pertaining to the Radiant Energy Collector from 1891 to 1898. Then, he made notes on his experiments at Colorado Springs where he installed a transmitter on the basic apparatus and "called" thunderstorms, then demonstrated controlled ball lightning or plasmas. Those notes were written around 1908. He last addressed notes about the scalar interferometer experiment in 1937 when he suggested a means of producing a field around the US that would causeaircraft engines to seize and could block missiles. All these notes are linked together to his method of extracting

energy from the 'River of Electricity' described in the original patent of 1891. Lawrence Rayburn From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...> Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:52 am Subject: Re: Radiant Energy Collector Movie? Film at 11:00 lawrencerayburn

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Probably not anytime soon. I don't have a digital camera yet, and I can only hope to get one for Christmas. Prices on propane gas, gasoline (I commute 100 miles each day), electricity, food, etc. are spiralling up and my pay is not going up. So, things are pretty tight going into Christmas. I have a VHS movie camera, but I need a new battery for it ($50) and I haven't messed with it. I suppose I can get it reformatted somewhere, but it is a hassle. I live out in the sticks. It is 135 miles to the nearest 24 hour Wal Mart, so nothing is very convenient for me. I was just talking to Barry Theodore in Australia, an electrician friend of mine who worked with me at the Firestone track this past summer. He is also a Ham radio operator. I was describing the device to him and he made the observation that it is much like a huge crystal radio set. He is exactly right. He is going to duplicate my setup down in Melbourne and develop it jointly with me over the next few months. So, we should be making DIY kits available by the Spring of 2004. Barry is also corresponding with Garry Stanley, as am I. So, Barry's web address should appear on this forum in previous posts. Ask him about me, if you wish. Best regards to you, Lawrence Rayburn No, Attila, I will not make the specifics of the components available to you or anyone else on this forum until the kits are on sale. I am sharing the specifics and working on development with Barry Theodore. Sorry.

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The antenna doesn't work that way. The antenna is passive. There are magnetic eddy vortices all over the surface of the Earth. Imagine water just begining to simmer before boiling. Those magnetic eddy vortices form, conduct charge carriers to Earth ground, and break up. If they concentrate from a local thunderstorm, you get flashes of lightning that transfer terrawatts in a second or so, but that is not the norm of things. It is an ongoing process at a much lower energy level, like thermal heat exchange. The spark gap is a type of capacitor. It may be possible to increase the plate size and increase the stored charge before avalanche and discharge across the gap. That can wait until later experiments. The tank circuit tunes the antenna and the components of the tank circuit to resonate at certain frequencies. Frequencies that coincide with either the primary standing waves of the Earth, or are harmonics of those waves act as carriers for charge transfer from the Ionosphere to the ground. The lower the frequency and closer to primary standing wave frequency, the more power is transferred. The higher the frequency, the further away from primary standing wave frequency----or the higher order of the harmonic, the lower the energy transfer potential. Resonating the antenna opens a corridor for power transfer around that particular frequency, but not the rest of the spectrum. Lightning is multi-frequency and low end harmonics of the standing wave frequency, so tremendous power is transferred. The antenna does not shape the magnetic field to provide the energy transfer corridor, rather the potential energy at that part of the frequency spectrum in resonance with the antenna is gated or allowed preference (lower impedance) to transfer energy through the antenna to ground and it forms its own ionized (low level) corridor to the antenna. The energy collected by the resonating antenna is DC voltage and current. You feed the DC voltage through an oscillator to change it to AC voltage. The Armstrong oscillator is locked to 60 hertz by the crystal across it. But any good oscillator can be set to oscillate at 60 hertz. Try a Colpitts oscillator, for example.

You take the AC voltage from the oscillator and drive a transformer with it to adjust the voltage to whatever you need. This transformer can either be a Tesla coil or it can be a conventional multitap transformer. This will be single phase, 60 hertz, AC voltage at 120,240,480,or whatever you need. To change to three phase, you add a capacitor to move the phase 90 degrees or three capacitors to move the phase 270 degrees. Placing these capacitors in a Delta configuration or a Wye configuration produces the three phase electrical service of the utility. So, this is clear as mud or does it make sense to you? Electricians and Ham radio operators have no problems understanding how it works. There are almost an infinite number of component values that can be placed in the circuit and make it work. I intend to make kits using readily available parts with instructions for troubleshooting and fixing any problems that might develop based on the symptoms. This contraption MUST have the Earth ground attached to it to work. It cannot "float" with regard to Earth ground. Barry Theodore's observation that this device resembles a huge crystal radio, is exactly right. Tuned to resonate at the frequency of a television or radio station, the output can be jacked through headphones and you will hear the station because it will function as a large crystal radio. The electrical charge gradient of the atmospehere is about 100 volts per square meter and increases about 100 volts for each 10 feet altitude. This has been independently measured and published in physics books for the last 80 years. Lawrence Rayburn The antenna coil works much more effectively to resonate with the tank circuit than does a flat plate collector. From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...> Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:09 am Subject: Re: Radiant Energy Collector lawrencerayburn

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Stefan,

Yes, there are oscillators that oscillate at 60 hertz. A crystal is used to lock the Armstrong oscillator at that frequency, but the crystal runs much higher in frequency. I used an Armstrong oscillator because it is fantastically stable, but a Hartley or a Colpitts oscillator will work just as well. Learn something about oscillators and electronic applications to transmitters and receivers, superhetrodyne regenerative receivers, and in short Amateur or Ham radio before you go spouting off about what you do or don't believe. An ignorant skeptic is worthless while an educated colleague is an asset. From: "lawrencerayburn I'm not worried about your building and selling systems, Bruce. Go right ahead, because you are not a true technician, much less a scientist. Go ahead, use the diode, muck up the circuit as much as you want, but you don't understand how it works and you can't make it work. Tesla was pretty cagey. I haven't wired the system into my home because I AM an electrician and the safety disconnects and wiring cost money I have not yet saved. I won't patch something together to attach to my home. It will be done according to the National Electrical Code, or not at all. From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...> No, once the resonant frequency is established, it is set it and forget it. It is not affected by time of day or storms or solar flares that I have been able to ascertain so far. With Spring will come thunderstorms that I will want to monitor the system through. That's one of the reasons I do not want to make kits available until then. This is mounted on a 30 foot fiberglass mast. I erected a 50 foot steel mast of 3 inch line pipe, self supporting--non guyed about 100 feet from this device about 3 months ago. It is just a lightning rod with grounded radials around it. It is supposed to take the hit from lightning and protect the Tesla device, the garage, and the farm house. It is the tallest target in the area. When the thunderstorms are in full swing, I want to see what effect, if any, there is on the Tesla device before I make kits available. We had one thunderstorm after I put the lightning rod up, but that was before I got the Tesla device up. So, I have no observations to go on. I want to keep it isolated in the garage, just in case, with disconnects I can open if necessary.

From: "lawrencerayburn" All passive antennas work in a kind of sucking mode. Whatever frequency they are cut to resonate at, they will pass that frequency the best with a certain amount of gain, or magnification of the signal. Typical antennas will give a gain of 20 to 30 Decibels. At resonance, sometimes the gain goes to 50 decibels, depending on how efficient it is----or the Q factor as it is called. In transmission mode, a correctly cut antenna at resonance on the frequency you wish to transmit at will give a gain factor of 2o to 50 Decibels and the efficiency is based on the front to back standingwave ratio----or SWR. The best you can get with a transmitting antenna is 1:1 SWR where you are losing none of your transmitted signal to heating effects due to impedance. In a receiving antenna, it is best to electrically tune the antenna to resonance at the desired frequency, drop the SWR to 1:1 and the impedance to near zero to pass the best signal and give you the most gain. Sorry, this is Amateur radio stuff and most of you have no idea what I am talking about, including BAP. But, I told you all I AM an electrician, a Ham radio operator, and I have a degree in electronic engineering. So, if I start talking shop in the lingo of my trade, just interrupt me and say you don't understand. Subject: Re: Wow I'm very impres Richard, For the most part, you are right in your description of the device. However, the oscillator is strictly to convert the DC voltage derivedfrom the antenna/resonant circuit to AC, or alternating current and voltage at 60 hertz to make it compatible with household appliances. The output of the oscillator is fed through a tuned Tesla coil or a conventional multitap transformer to derive the voltage required. The resonant tank circuit and the antenna do not need to be timed or synchronized. Subject: Re: Radiant Energy Collect Yes, Wayne. I will send you a notification when the kits are ready. I have no idea yet when that will be or how much they will cost. But, I will try to do right by everyone on price and I want to be sure of the effects of local thunderstorms before I release kits to anyone. It may be necessary to build a lightning rod like I did to protect your home, barn, etc. If that is the case, I want to know in advance and steer everyone down the right path. A lightning rod will add expense to any set up and I want the kits to be turnkey projects.

Lawrence Rayburn Subject: Re: Radiant Energy why does he complain about Didn't get your book, Bruce. Don't know what you may have said in it. Yes, land is cheap out here and it makes more sense to build homes out of steel than lumber because all we get out here is #3 and #4 grade lumber, so crooked it can't be used. In the Spring the wind blows 60-70 mph everyday for about 40 days and the dust is horrendous. We get about 2 inches of rain a year. Though there are a lot of thunderstorms during that time, we seldom get much rain. It is over 100 miles to go to the 24 hour Wal Mart. Gasoline is $1.79a gallon and I drive over 100 miles each day to work and back. There are all kinds of abandoned farms and ranches out here that havegone under because it costs too much to pump water from 400 feet or more depth. So, there is a crying need out here for this device to reclaim the farms and ranches. I plan to build enclosed hydroponic gardens to raise vegetables organically and exotic mushrooms for cancer research. A type of mushroom shrinks and eliminates tumors. An ounce of that mushroom is over $5000. No carpetbaggers from back in the North East need apply out here. Theconditions are too harsh, no one has any real money, and the yankees are not welcome. People live paycheck to paycheck if they have one. Otherwise they scrounge a lot and have makeshift housing and live like dogs. Lawrence Rayburn From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...> Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:40 pm Subject: Re: Radiant Energy why does he complain about lawrencerayburn

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West Texas extends from El Paso to Abilene along IH-20 and south to the Rio Grande. It's a big place with few people. The oil and gas industry used to be the biggest supplier of jobs. Now it is prisons.

If you want to help these people pump water, contact the City of El Paso, or Odessa, or Midland, or Del Rio. Otherwise, don't bother these people. They can't waste money or resources on snake oil. Sorry, Jay, But these people have been taken advantage of for generations by everyone, including the oil and gas producing companies. This is a very harsh environment and getting water from 400 feet down is very serious business. Drilling a water well here costs between $10 and $30 per foot, depending on the strata. So, a 400 foot well could cost $4000 to $12000 plus the tubular goods and pump. That doesn't sound like much money to those back east who make $100K or more a year, but out here where a family might make $20K to $30K, it is a significant portion of their income. With taxes, gasoline prices, the distance between towns, and all the other attendant problems inherit for this area, it's a wonder anyone stays out here and tries to eke out a living. I am protective of these people because I was born here and AM one of them. Lawrence Rayburn Subject: Re: Modified Tesla Try Lindsays Books on forgotten technology. Look their catalog up on the web. Tesla is not the only good read among their books. Whatever you do, DON'T waste your money on books by Bruce A. Perrault! Best regards, Lawrence Rayburn Jay--- I don't want to hurt your feelings, but out here the relative humidity stays between 2 and 6 percent! Evaporative air conditioning works well out here because the extremely dry conditionscause the water to evaporate quickly and cool the air. Have you ever seen virga, Jay? Virga is the term for rain falling from a cloud that never reaches the ground---is evaporated in midair.That's how dry and hot it gets here, Jay. You can't pull 300

gallons of water per day out of such a dry atmosphere no matter how large a volume of air you move. In the summer the road surface (the asphalt melts) is around 175 degrees. Ambient air temperature is between 110 and 125 degrees. We have thermals that look like tornadoes. This goes on with temperatures well over 100 for about 100 days in the summer. I have seen it 126 degrees 10 days straight here in 1964----and NO rain, Jay! To survive in the desert sometimes we have to dig a hole, put a cup in the bottom, put plastic over the hole and seal it with sand, and put a pebble in the middle to solar siphon and condense water from the ground to drink. And after a full day of sunlight, you might get a 1/4 cup of water if the sand is wet down deep. To ensure getting some water, we cut up cactus, mesquite bushes and leaves, and anything green we can find, put it under the plastic and let the sun pull the water out of the green vegetation. That's how it is out here, Jay. Thanks for the suggestion, but you have no practical experience in desert conditions. Subject: Re: Radiant Energy Gary knows Barry Theodore in Australia. Gary, ask Barry if I ever got any information from Bruce A. Perrault, or ever mentioned copying any designs of his to work from. Barry has been to my farm and can tell you the conditions in the area. I know Barry personally and that is why I trust him to replicate the Tesla system in Melbourne and verify what I have claimed. When all the testing is done and verified, AND the system has been monitored in at least a couple of serious thunderstorms and shows itself to be stable and safe to operate under any conditions, we will simultaneously offer kits on both continents. I am projecting that to be the Spring of 2004. Subject: Re: Radiant Synopsis Please Yes, and I intend to refine it and have kits ready for the Spring of 2004, but I want to be sure the device is stable in all conditions it must operate in and, above all, safe for the DIY homeowner to operate. We need to check this device out in thunderstorm conditions and check its stability.

I want to make the device, tuned and set for 5Kw, 10 Kw, 20Kw, 50Kw, and 100Kw competitive and in most cases CHEAPER than the portable power plants you can buy in Wall Mart or Hardware stores. It should be affordable by even the poorest families---or to me it is worthless.

LoadLoad

OscillatorDry Transformer

Tank Circuit

DisconnectDisconnect

Antenna

Spark gap

Earth groundEarth Ground Earth Ground

resistor

vari cap

variable inductor

4 gauge solid wire in all inductors and oscillatoralso for connection from antenna to spark gap.

Quadruple the number of 4 gauge wires fromthe spark gap to the earth ground.

Modified Tesla Radiant Energy Collector

All loads must have a separate Earth ground to completethe circuit.

From: "Samantha Rayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Sun Nov 23, 2003 2:25 am

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There is a way to have your cake and eat it too!

Go back to Tesla's original experiments with tapping the

electrosphere of the

Earth with the radiant energy collector.

Tesla discovered a 'cold electricity' that he said had a spiral

transmission

wave to it.

In his patent, Tesla said he mounted a plate of steel or brass on a

flag pole

and placed a brass plate in the ground. In between the two, he placed

a tuned

tank circuit set to resonate near the standing wave frequency of the

Earth. He

parallelled the tunable tank circuit to a spark gap with carbon

electrodes.

The conductors he used would limit the amount of current he could

pass and an

air core transformer fed by the spark gap

(pulsed DC) allowed him to derive

pulsed AC or DC from the setup at

whatever voltage he chose.

Remember, the size of the conductors in the transformer and spark

gap, and

between the antenna and the spark gap determine the amount of current

that can

pass.

Updated to today, the antenna needs to be a flat spiral wound to

resonate at the resonant frequency of the energy to be transferred

from the

electrosphere to the the ground through the spark gap. The tank

circuit in

parallel allows you to tune the circuit to pass current. The closer

to the

standing wave resonant frequency the tank circuit comes, the more

current is

passed to the spark gap and on to ground.

I am experimenting with flat spiral wound antennas made of copper

tubing, 1/4,

1/2, and 3/4

inch diameters so far, but may have to go as high as 2 inches in

diameter.

I started with 50 foot rolls of copper tubing, and have made some

coils with 100

feet of copper tubing. I sandwich the coils between sheets of lexan.

I've found the insulated leads from the antenna coil to the spark gap

and ground

plate needs to be solid copper wire. I started with solid 4 guage

copper wire

and now have solid 2-0 wire.

The electrosphere is actually the Ionosphere of the Earth and

receives Bega

Joules of energy in the form of ionizing radiation everyday from the

sun. The

sun never sets on at least half of the ionosphere each day.

The ionosphere collects a net positive charge. The Earth is always at

a net

negative charge.

The photon charge carrier pairs flow from positive to negative, so,

contrary to what some scientists say, lightning DOES ionize a path

and flow from

the cloud to the ground.

Anyway, it is possible to direct and control kilowatts of electrical

energy with

this set up. It does NOT require a battery or external power to a

circuit to

initiate transfer of energy. It does take a little while for the

ionized path

to the ionosphere to form once the tank circuit is tuned, but once

this happens,

a continuous flow of energy can be derived that is not dependent on

the sun

shining in your area.

This is not practical for those of you living in a city because of

the

size of the equipment and the flow of energy---probably a city would

have an

ordinance against erecting such an antenna.

Thought you'd all like to know about this.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "Samantha Rayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Sun Nov 23, 2003 6:28 pm

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Send Email I have 35 mm pictures, no digital pictures yet. So, I am not ready to

post

digital pictures of the set up yet.

For powering a home, 3/4 inch copper tubing, 50 feet, wound in

in a right hand spiral with 1 inch spacing between spirals works as

the antenna. Place this antenna

on a fiberglass pipe mast 30 feet

above the ground.

Run 4 guage insulated solid copper wire from the antenna to one side

of the

carbon arc spark gap, quadruple the insulated 4 guage solid wire to

the ground

plate (4 foot square steel, or a coil of braided uninsulated ground

wire---the

bigger the better) buried at least 3 feet deep in the earth from the

other side

of the spark gap. Set the spark gap at

1/2 inch. Run the insulated 4 guage

from the antenna/spark gap connection through an insulated 600 volt

fused single

or three phase disconnect switch (you'll use only one

leg in the switch) and feed the tank circuit with the 4 guage

conductor.

Parallel 4 500mfd capacitors with a

10 K Ohm 10 turn variable resistor, and terminate one side of the

tank circuit

through another insulated disconnect switch to a ground rod driven 10

feet into

the earth. This is your load circuit. Attach whatever you wish to

operate to

this lead before the

disconnect and run the load through a

matching transformer to get the required voltage and amperage you

want. ALWAYS

open the disconnect on the ground circuit to kill the power, then

open the

disconnect before the tank circuit to isolate the voltage/current

controls. The

spark gap will arc occasionally when the charge builds up with the

system off.

Nothing to worry about.

When the tank circuit is tuned to near the resonant frequency, it

takes several

seconds to a few minutes for the atmospheric charge to charge the

capacitors in

the tank circuit and bring it to resonance. As resonance is

established, an

ionized path to the ionosphere forms between the antenna coil and the

ionosphere. The closer

to perfect resonance the antenna/tank circuit is, the greater the

energy

transfer to ground.

Thus, you establish a controllable ionized conductive conduit for

energy

transfer from the ionosphere to Earth ground, and you siphon what you

need from

it for your purposes.

The beauty of this system is that I have been able to salvage most of

the

materials used in it for little or no cost.

The 2 inch antenna/conductor system is intended to power center pivot

irrigation

sprinkler systems that have

300 to 500 Hp electric motors on them

pumping from 900 feet deep wells.

This requires producing three phase

electricity 480 volts/500 amps. So,

the demo model will have truly massive conductors.

I am doing this to develop my own farm and to help the farmers around

me,

because electricity costs are driving them out of business with the

water

requirements in this sustained

drought.

I got interested in this many years ago, but had not pursued it to

this extent

until lately. I figured if Tesla could produce such energy in

Colorado

Springs a hundred years ago, long before there were transmission

lines in the

area, I could do the same thing and supply the farmers.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "Samantha Rayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Sun Nov 23, 2003 6:53 pm

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By the way, guys, any load you put on the circuit between the tank

circuit and

the disconnect to the ground needs its own independent earth ground

to complete

the circuit.

For homes, when you bring the circuit off the tank circuit to ground

leg, you

will be getting DC

voltage that you must run through

an oscillator (100 turns 4 guage insulated solid wire on a 6 inch PVC

core, with

20 turns of 4 guage insulated solid wire on a 4 inch pvc core, nested

one inside

the other.) One side of the primary must be grounded to Earth ground.

A

variable capacitor 500 mfd from the earth ground of the primary to

the secondary

common ground will enable you to set the frequency of the oscillator

at 60

Hertz. Then run the ouput through a standard

dry type transformer to get the single phase voltage and amperage you

need.

120/240 single phase at up to 50 amps can

be derived this way---that's about

12,000 watts---plenty for a household.

Lawrence

From: "Samantha Rayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Sun Nov 23, 2003 7:58 pm

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Looking up at the antenna coil, it is wound clockwise.

Yes, the copper tubing coil antenna works much better than a plate of

ferrous

metalj because it is very close to the physical dimensions of the

spiral wave

that

transfers the energy from the ionosphere to the ground. It is far

easier to tune

to resonate if the physical dimensions of the antenna is close to the

wave you

wish to receive.

The antenna should be placed horizontal to the ground to present the

minimum

cross sectional area for wind loading.

Yes, the unit powers my rabbitry, the garage with my power equipment,

and my Ham

Radio shack.

I plan to add the farmhouse to it and go completely off line by

Christmas.

I am still conducting tests on the system and I want to see if there

are

differences in the derived charge as the sunspot activity peaks and

wanes.

I plan to build kits with a fiberglass collapsible mast, copper

tubing coils for

the antenna and the ground, and a plug in pre wired tank circuit and

a preset

oscillator/transformer to derive household voltage and current----all

as a kit

with instructions.

These will be available for sale by the spring of 2004. I am putting

together

the supply line of materials and lining up some people to do the

fabricating of

the kits.

Since this is a derivative of Tesla's

original patent, I am not seeking a patent on it. I am simply going

to present

it and sell it to people in rural areas.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:40 am

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--- In free-energy@yahoogroups.com, Tim Davies <daviest@s...> wrote: > hi lawrence

> actually tesla consumed the towns entire power production, which

did nothing to help him out from a pr perspective. i think he pulsed

at the earth resonant frequency ( schuman number is around 7.8 hz i

think)

> tim

>

> Actually, Tim,

Tesla never used Colorado Springs power system---because it did not

exist in 1893-1898. The battery lights that were in operation there

in Colorado Springs did grow very bright and flicker on and off as

Tesla experimented with exciting the resonant tank circuit with a

pulsed DC signal and then an RF signal, making a transmitter out of

his apparatus. It was his discovery of sending reinforcing RF

through the tank circuit that caused him to be able to "call"

thunderstorms and to create ball lightning (high temperature

plasmas). He found that if he injected a destructive harmonic RF

signal into the tank circuit, he could cause the temperature to drop

by tens of degrees around the apparatus. He later found he could

transmit a low frequency destructive harmonic in the 28 to 32 Hertz

range and it would kill all life at the focal point of the

transmitter (the node nadir) and at the antinode (zenith on the

other side of the world). His experiment in 1908 with the positive

reinforcing harmonic created a huge plasma near Colorado Springs and

in Siberia simultaneously. The plasma destroyed 50 square miles in

Siberia and Tesla dismantled his machine shortly thereafter.

He knew what he was talking about with regard to the separation of

charge contained in the ionosphere (which he called the river of

electricity) and the Earth ground. Separated by the atmosphere

dielectric, the potential is there (according to Tesla) to power 100

MILLION horsepower!

Because the Ionosphere is constantly bombarded by high energy

particles from the sun, it is always gaining energy. What we manage

to pull off it is miniscule compared to the potential and has little

effect on our weather or environment.

This CAN be a nonpolluting power source just as Tesla envisioned.

Tesla used a plate for his antenna which is not as efficient as the

copper coil antenna. In resonance, it shapes a magnetic field that

captures and spins ions to form a conduit for potential charge

transfer to the Earth ground. It does not require injection of

electrical energy to make it work. It absorbs the electrical

potential energy when in resonance which establishes the electrical

charge conduit. That's why it takes some time for the field to

establish itself and the conduit to form. But once formed, you can

siphon off the power you want without affecting the conduit.

Is that explanation clear enough??

Lawrence Rayburn

> "I got interested in this many years ago, but had not pursued it

to this extent until lately. I figured if Tesla could produce such

energy in Colorado

> Springs a hundred years ago, long before there were transmission

lines in the area, I could do the same thing and supply the

farmers.

>

> Lawrence Rayburn "

From: "Samantha Rayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:59 am

Subject: Radiant Energy collector lawrencerayburn

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Send Email I will try the fixes you guys suggest and see if I can get the

drawing into a

format that you can copy on the group.

I have been working on miniaturizing the circuit and antenna to be

able to get

12,24,36,or 48 volts DC at up to 50

amperes to drive an electric car like Tesla did with the 1931 Pierce

Arrow. He used a 30 Hp brushless

motor. I don't see why he went that route when he could have gone

straight DC

and made it much simpler.

For some reason, however, that I have yet to understand, the antenna

does not

work well less than 10 feet above the ground. The higher you go, the

better it

works. I don't have any 100 foot

flag poles out here in West Texas to attach an antenna to.

If I am able to strike a deal with

Cingular wireless, I have access to a 250 foot three sided tower that

is

currently in pieces that could be erected on my property and rent

space for a

repeater.

That would give me another, higher, platform to experiment with and

provide a

steady rental

income to boot.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "Samantha Rayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 6:02 am

Subject: Radiant Energy Collector lawrencerayburn

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Send Email Clear DayThe diameter of the antenna coil is between 3.5 and 4 feet (

I did not

measure it, because I was more interested in keeping the coils 1 inch

apart and

fit the whole thing on a half sheet of lexan.)

The insulated 4 guage solid wire is commonly used in grounding

circuits, which I

do for a living as an electrician.

A lot of these parts are salvaged from old power transmission

equipment.

So, yes I have huge variable capacitors, variable inductors, and

power switching

SCRs, FETs, and the like.

No, so far I have heard no QRM on my

HF or 2 meter Ham rigs, or on standard AM or FM broadcast bands.

When the system is off and it occasionally builds up enough charge to

arc across

the spark gap to ground,

yes, I do get a 'pop' on the radios, but

in normal operation, no noise.

I haven't noticed a significant signal change due to the setting of

the sun or

solar corona ejections or flares.

I have two oscilloscopes, an old 1 Ghz

Tektronics, and a B&K 100 Mhz scope. As the resonant circuit comes

close to

resonance, I get a laissez jous

display that flattens along the horizontal axis as the frequency

changes. I have

not kept an accurate

record in my journal of the frequencies, voltages, current, etc. at

each point.

That will come with time and further experimentation. Right now, I am

too

excited the thing works to get serious in my observations. I'm just

playing

with it right now.

I will include some digital pictures of

waveforms from various points on the collector at various frequencies

as soon as

Santa brings my digital camera.

I am interested in making this device in kit form in various sizes

for several

different applications.

I have to go to bed now. Tomorrow will be a long day at my day job.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 6:50 am

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Send Email All you need is an enclosed relay with a 120 VAC coil connected

across the grid power line so the coil is energized and the normally

open contacts are closed. Run the output of your Radiant Collector

through the normally open contacts and into the meter. When the grid

drops, the coil will de-energize and open the normally open contacts,

taking your collector offline until power is restored.

Simple circuit.

A 35 foot tall wooden pole should work fine for this application.

You can make the antenna coil the way I did out of 3/4 inch copper

tubing, and you could use wooden stringers to keep it planarized

and attached to the top of the pole horizontal to the ground.

Most of the rest of the stuff should be available to you surplus

from an electrician friend, or I can include the wire, spark gap,

and ground rods with the already assembled and tuned tank circuit

as part of the kit. It will all fit in a standard box and is UPS

shippable.

Lawrence Rayburn

I gotta get to bed!

--- In free-energy@yahoogroups.com, Howard Rogers <cyclesandgardens@y...> wrote:

> Tedla had a professional disagreement with Edison.

> Tesla knew that AC would be transmitted over a grid

> with far fewer losses that DB. Edison did not get the

>

> Idea. This animosity caused Tesla's shortsighteness.

>

> You have awoken in me some old ideas I had. I remeber

> the static potential as about 100 volts per meter. I

> live in a river valley, so the surrounfing terrain

> probably reduces this potential. 5 Kw would do mr if

> I could stay connected to the grid and sell power back

> to it. I have an old power pole I could erect. Tjis

> is only about 35 feet high but it is better that the

> top of the garage. In order to make 5 Kw work and

> sell power back to the grid (assuming the power

> company lets me) there are two issues.

> 1) phase matching

> do you have a simple method?

> 2 grid brownouts and power cutoffs.

> When the grid goes down linemen work on the

> line. I do not want to electrocute them. I need a

> relay system to take me offlline. keep me up and

> runnibg. Furing brownouts and such, it woyld be nice

> ro avoivd overloading the generator.

> My last power bill put me in at 170 Kwh for a 30 day

> period. Averaged out over the year, there should be

> enough to supply my electricity AND heating needs

> with 5 Kw. I have already converted to radiant floor

> heat, and in the coldest of these Canadian winter days

> I use about 18 gigajoules of natural gas. This

> conveerts yo 4200 wats of electricity on a 5o0 percenr

> duty cycle, when the efficiency of my hot water tank

> is factored in.

>

> It may be premature at this stage, but have you

> considered these points? Can you point me in any

> direction?

From: "Samantha Rayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:21 am

Subject: Re: SmartDraw File Modified Tesla Radiant Energy Collector.sdr

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You can't be an Albert Shweitzer with

someone else's idea.

You'll notice I give Tesla the due credit for this device. I claim

nothing

for it. In order to make this worthwhile to me, I must withold the

details of the variable inductor until the kits are on sale. There

will be

plenty of copycats in the few weeks after I begin selling kits and

it'll be

disseminated all over the world in short order.

I make my living as an electrician for

Bridgestone/Firestone tire manufacturers. What do you think the

effect will be

on the automotive industry with an unlimited supply of

electrical power in a portable form?

Automotive industry craters, tire industry craters, too. I put myself

out of a

job. That's okay with me, but there are a few things I'd like to do

with my

farm to become more self sufficient before I commit economic

suicide, thank you very much!

Lawrence Rayburn

----- Original Message -----

From: cliff pint

To: Samantha Rayburn

Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 1:10 AM

Subject: Re: SmartDraw File Modified Tesla Radiant Energy

Collector.sdr

all i want is to help mankind,

and yes , it should be free.

Cliff

Samantha Rayburn <srayburn@...> wrote: Okay, but YOU are "strange". Want something for free, don't you?

Well,

there are no specifics on the variable inductor for that very reason.

LR

You can open this attachment with the Free SmartDraw Viewer. Download

and

install it in minutes from www.smartdraw.com/viewer.htm.

> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/octet-stream name=Modified Tesla

Radiant

Energy Collector.sdr

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Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:52 am

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Nope! Not interested in notariety.

There's not much to this circuit. I just

figured since Tesla was big on variable inductors, he must have used

one in the

tank circuit to enable almost infinite ranges of resonant

frequencies. That

doesn't warrant

putting my name on anything. The basic circuit has always been there

and Tesla

did it over 100 years ago.

He deserves the credit.

Lawrence Rayburn

----- Original Message -----

From: cliff pint

To: Samantha Rayburn

Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 1:29 AM

Subject: Re: SmartDraw File Modified Tesla Radiant Energy

Collector.sdr

i agree this world won't "wait for you"

you MUST be given some credit somehow.

at least NAME this modified circuit after yourself.

Cliff

From: "Samantha Rayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 1:57 pm

Subject: Radiant Energy Collector lawrencerayburn

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Send Email Jeez! Now there are at least 4 versions of the schematic in the files

section!

Are you guys so frustrated you must do ANYTHING to feel like you have

contributed?

Get a life!

This is just a format for experimentation with all the different

frequencies the

contraption can be made to resonate at and the energy that is

derivable from it. Just be careful

with it. You could end up burning up a lab or home, kill yourself, or

expose yourself and others to radiation.

Tesla did not have to worry with product liability laws 100 years

ago. They are

reality now and must be dealt with. That is why this is NOT my

circuit. It

belongs to Tesla.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "Samantha Rayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:42 pm

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First of all, Trent, this IS NOT free energy. This is not Over Unity.

This is just a tunable conduit for the

separated charges of the Ionosphere and the Earth to come together in

a

controllable fashion.

My spark gap is just two copper clad

carbon arc welding rods clamped with a gap between them.

The antenna coil, when connected to the tank circuit, can be made to

resonate at

virtually any frequency from ELF to SHF. That's all Tesla did and I

discovered

nothing. I just read

Tesla's notes and figured out how he must have achieved resonance

with

the device he described using the materials available at that time.

He did not have an Armstrong oscillator like I used (though a

Colpitts will work

also). But, he made

an infinitely variable inductor that

I have only partially been able to fathom.

I want no recognition for this circuit. It totally belongs to the man

who first

envisioned it, Tesla.

My home farm and my garage/experimenter's shop are not open to visits

by the

public. I like my

privacy.

When the kits are available, you'll be

notified.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "Rayburn, Lawrence" <srayburn@...>

Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:11 pm

Subject: Radiant Energy Collector lawrencerayburn

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Warning! I better not catch BAP or anyone else on this forum

marketing

plans for this Radiant

Energy Collector anywhere else. A word to the wise, Bruce and anyone

else.

If this ends up benefitting mankind, I want the original inventor to

get the

credit.

That inventor is, of course, Tesla.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:17 pm

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Send Email No, I don't want to 'call' thunderstorms or have lightning playing

in my garage!

To effectively call thunderstorms, Tesla rigged a transmitter up

to the tank circuit and injected signals that attracted the

thunderstorms to the ionized conduit as though it was a black hole

for energy.

I plan to explore that option later next year, but for now I am

interested in stabilizing and standardizing the present circuit.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:28 pm

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Send Email There may be some who will try to block wholesale building of this

Radiant Energy Collector by claiming it is inductively robbing power

from the grid, but remember Tesla DEMONSTRATED this device before the

turn of last century when there WAS NO power grid! He also used it to

demonstrate ball lightning, or plasmas, at Colorado Springs in 1908.

So, every time someone comes up with another argument to quash this

circuit's development, just point them to the notes Tesla made over

100 years ago.

Whatever Tesla, Stubblefield, T.T.Brown and others could do back

then,

we can do now. You just have to look at what they were doing and how

they could achieve it with the materials of the time.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:48 pm

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Send Email Apply Occam's Razor here. Simply put, all things being equal, the

simplest explanation is usually correct.

Tesla was no fool. He said the charge came from the 'river of

electricity' circling the world. He meant, of course, the Ionosphere

that is air molecules ionized by constant bombardment by the sun.

He said the Earth, the atmosphere, and the 'river of electricity'

ionosphere formed a resonant cavity with the atmosphere a dielectric

and the Earth and the ionosphere the two dipoles.

He was not talking about a 'seething aether' around us.

This is not rocket science, guys. Present day physics adequately

explains this phenomenon. Don't go off on tangents and try to make

this simple energy conduit into anything it is not.

Much experimental observation needs to be done and documented to

know exactly what to expect at different frequencies and different

configurations of hardware. But remember, no matter how this

evolves, its root is exclusively Tesla's and any derivation should

bear his name.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 11:04 pm

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Send Email That's what the Armstrong oscillator is for. It imprints a 60 Hz

signal on the output of the transformer.

Going into the primary of the transformer, the input has no 60 Hertz

ripple.

LR

-- In free-energy@yahoogroups.com, "MP" <mark@c...> wrote: >

> It is just a matter of comparing frequency and phase at the

output

> with the grid frequency and phase. If you are robbing power from

the grid,

> the frequency and phase would be exactly the same ever.

>

> Mark

From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 11:14 pm

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Send Email I read all his notes pertaining to the Radiant Energy Collector from

1891 to 1898. Then, he made notes on his experiments at Colorado

Springs where he installed a transmitter on the basic apparatus and

"called" thunderstorms, then demonstrated controlled ball lightning

or plasmas. Those notes were written around 1908. He last addressed

notes about the scalar interferometer experiment in 1937 when he

suggested a means of producing a field around the US that would cause

aircraft engines to seize and could block missiles.

All these notes are linked together to his method of extracting

energy from the 'River of Electricity' described in the original

patent of 1891.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:52 am

Subject: Re: Radiant Energy Collector Movie? Film at 11:00 lawrencerayburn

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Send Email Probably not anytime soon. I don't have a digital camera yet, and I

can only hope to get one for Christmas. Prices on propane gas,

gasoline (I commute 100 miles each day), electricity, food, etc. are

spiralling up and my pay is not going up. So, things are pretty

tight going into Christmas.

I have a VHS movie camera, but I need a new battery for it ($50) and

I haven't messed with it. I suppose I can get it reformatted

somewhere, but it is a hassle. I live out in the sticks. It is 135

miles to the nearest 24 hour Wal Mart, so nothing is very convenient

for me.

I was just talking to Barry Theodore in Australia, an electrician

friend of mine who worked with me at the Firestone track this past

summer. He is also a Ham radio operator.

I was describing the device to him and he made the observation that

it is much like a huge crystal radio set. He is exactly right.

He is going to duplicate my setup down in Melbourne and develop it

jointly with me over the next few months. So, we should be making

DIY kits available by the Spring of 2004.

Barry is also corresponding with Garry Stanley, as am I. So, Barry's

web address should appear on this forum in previous posts.

Ask him about me, if you wish.

Best regards to you,

Lawrence Rayburn

No, Attila,

I will not make the specifics of the components available to you

or anyone else on this forum until the kits are on sale.

I am sharing the specifics and working on development with

Barry Theodore.

Sorry.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:01 am

Subject: Re: Wow I'm very impressed lawrencerayburn

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Send Email The antenna doesn't work that way. The antenna is passive.

There are magnetic eddy vortices all over the surface of the

Earth. Imagine water just begining to simmer before boiling.

Those magnetic eddy vortices form, conduct charge carriers

to Earth ground, and break up. If they concentrate from a local

thunderstorm, you get flashes of lightning that transfer terrawatts

in a second or so, but that is not the norm of things. It is an

ongoing process at a much lower energy level, like thermal heat

exchange.

The spark gap is a type of capacitor. It may be possible to increase

the plate size and increase the stored charge before avalanche and

discharge across the gap. That can wait until later experiments.

The tank circuit tunes the antenna and the components of the tank

circuit to resonate at certain frequencies.

Frequencies that coincide with either the primary standing waves of

the Earth, or are harmonics of those waves act as carriers for

charge transfer from the Ionosphere to the ground. The lower the

frequency and closer to primary standing wave frequency, the more

power is transferred. The higher the frequency, the further away

from primary standing wave frequency----or the higher order of the

harmonic, the lower the energy transfer potential.

Resonating the antenna opens a corridor for power transfer around

that particular frequency, but not the rest of the spectrum.

Lightning is multi-frequency and low end harmonics of the standing

wave frequency, so tremendous power is transferred.

The antenna does not shape the magnetic field to provide the energy

transfer corridor, rather the potential energy at that part of the

frequency spectrum in resonance with the antenna is gated or allowed

preference (lower impedance) to transfer energy through the antenna

to ground and it forms its own ionized (low level) corridor to the

antenna.

The energy collected by the resonating antenna is DC voltage and

current. You feed the DC voltage through an oscillator to change it

to AC voltage. The Armstrong oscillator is locked to 60 hertz by the

crystal across it. But any good oscillator can be set to oscillate

at 60 hertz. Try a Colpitts oscillator, for example.

You take the AC voltage from the oscillator and drive a transformer

with it to adjust the voltage to whatever you need. This

transformer can either be a Tesla coil or it can be a conventional

multitap transformer.

This will be single phase, 60 hertz, AC voltage at 120,240,480,or

whatever you need. To change to three phase, you add a capacitor

to move the phase 90 degrees or three capacitors to move the phase

270 degrees. Placing these capacitors in a Delta configuration or

a Wye configuration produces the three phase electrical service of

the utility.

So, this is clear as mud or does it make sense to you? Electricians

and Ham radio operators have no problems understanding how it works.

There are almost an infinite number of component values that can be

placed in the circuit and make it work. I intend to make kits using

readily available parts with instructions for troubleshooting and

fixing any problems that might develop based on the symptoms.

This contraption MUST have the Earth ground attached to it to work.

It cannot "float" with regard to Earth ground.

Barry Theodore's observation that this device resembles a huge

crystal radio, is exactly right. Tuned to resonate at the frequency

of a television or radio station, the output can be jacked through

headphones and you will hear the station because it will function as

a large crystal radio.

The electrical charge gradient of the atmospehere is about 100 volts

per square meter and increases about 100 volts for each 10 feet

altitude. This has been independently measured and published in

physics books for the last 80 years.

Lawrence Rayburn

The antenna coil works much more effectively to resonate with the

tank circuit than does a flat plate collector.

From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:09 am

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Send Email Stefan,

Yes, there are oscillators that oscillate at 60 hertz. A crystal is

used to lock the Armstrong oscillator at that frequency, but the

crystal runs much higher in frequency. I used an Armstrong

oscillator because it is fantastically stable, but a Hartley or

a Colpitts oscillator will work just as well.

Learn something about oscillators and electronic applications to

transmitters and receivers, superhetrodyne regenerative receivers,

and in short Amateur or Ham radio before you go spouting off about

what you do or don't believe.

An ignorant skeptic is worthless while an educated colleague is an

asset.

Regards,

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:43 am

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Send Email I'm not worried about your building and selling systems, Bruce. Go

right ahead, because you are not a true technician, much less a

scientist. Go ahead, use the diode, muck up the circuit as much as

you want, but you don't understand how it works and you can't make

it work. Tesla was pretty cagey.

I haven't wired the system into my home because I AM an electrician

and the safety disconnects and wiring cost money I have not yet

saved. I won't patch something together to attach to my home. It

will be done according to the National Electrical Code, or not at

all.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 11:53 am

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Send Email No, once the resonant frequency is established, it is set it and

forget it. It is not affected by time of day or storms or solar

flares

that I have been able to ascertain so far.

With Spring will come thunderstorms that I will want to monitor the

system through. That's one of the reasons I do not want to make kits

available until then.

This is mounted on a 30 foot fiberglass mast. I erected a 50 foot

steel mast of 3 inch line pipe, self supporting--non guyed about

100 feet from this device about 3 months ago. It is just a lightning

rod with grounded radials around it. It is supposed to take the hit

from lightning and protect the Tesla device, the garage, and the

farm house. It is the tallest target in the area. When the

thunderstorms are in full swing, I want to see what effect, if any,

there is on the Tesla device before I make kits available. We had

one thunderstorm after I put the lightning rod up, but that was

before I got the Tesla device up. So, I have no observations to go

on. I want to keep it isolated in the garage, just in case, with

disconnects I can open if necessary.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:05 pm

Subject: Re: Radiant Energy Collector lawrencerayburn

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Send Email All passive antennas work in a kind of sucking mode. Whatever

frequency they are cut to resonate at, they will pass that frequency

the best with a certain amount of gain, or magnification of the

signal. Typical antennas will give a gain of 20 to 30 Decibels.

At resonance, sometimes the gain goes to 50 decibels, depending on

how efficient it is----or the Q factor as it is called.

In transmission mode, a correctly cut antenna at resonance on the

frequency you wish to transmit at will give a gain factor of 2o to

50 Decibels and the efficiency is based on the front to back standing

wave ratio----or SWR. The best you can get with a transmitting

antenna is 1:1 SWR where you are losing none of your transmitted

signal to heating effects due to impedance.

In a receiving antenna, it is best to electrically tune the antenna

to resonance at the desired frequency, drop the SWR to 1:1 and the

impedance to near zero to pass the best signal and give you the most

gain.

Sorry, this is Amateur radio stuff and most of you have no idea what

I am talking about, including BAP. But, I told you all I AM an

electrician, a Ham radio operator, and I have a degree in electronic

engineering. So, if I start talking shop in the lingo of my trade,

just interrupt me and say you don't understand.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:13 pm

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Send Email Richard,

For the most part, you are right in your description of the device.

However, the oscillator is strictly to convert the DC voltage derived

from the antenna/resonant circuit to AC, or alternating current and

voltage at 60 hertz to make it compatible with household appliances.

The output of the oscillator is fed through a tuned Tesla coil or

a conventional multitap transformer to derive the voltage required.

The resonant tank circuit and the antenna do not need to be timed or

synchronized.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:32 pm

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Yes, Wayne.

I will send you a notification when the kits are ready. I have no

idea yet when that will be or how much they will cost. But, I will

try to do right by everyone on price and I want to be sure of the

effects of local thunderstorms before I release kits to anyone. It

may be necessary to build a lightning rod like I did to protect your

home, barn, etc. If that is the case, I want to know in advance and

steer everyone down the right path. A lightning rod will add expense

to any set up and I want the kits to be turnkey projects.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:24 pm

Subject: Re: Radiant Energy why does he complain about lawrencerayburn

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Send Email Didn't get your book, Bruce. Don't know what you may have said in it.

Yes, land is cheap out here and it makes more sense to build homes

out of steel than lumber because all we get out here is #3 and #4

grade lumber, so crooked it can't be used.

In the Spring the wind blows 60-70 mph everyday for about 40 days

and the dust is horrendous. We get about 2 inches of rain a year.

Though there are a lot of thunderstorms during that time, we seldom

get much rain.

It is over 100 miles to go to the 24 hour Wal Mart. Gasoline is $1.79

a gallon and I drive over 100 miles each day to work and back.

There are all kinds of abandoned farms and ranches out here that have

gone under because it costs too much to pump water from 400 feet or

more depth.

So, there is a crying need out here for this device to reclaim the

farms and ranches. I plan to build enclosed hydroponic gardens to

raise vegetables organically and exotic mushrooms for cancer

research. A type of mushroom shrinks and eliminates tumors. An ounce

of that mushroom is over $5000.

No carpetbaggers from back in the North East need apply out here. The

conditions are too harsh, no one has any real money, and the yankees

are not welcome. People live paycheck to paycheck if they have one.

Otherwise they scrounge a lot and have makeshift housing and live

like

dogs.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:40 pm

Subject: Re: Radiant Energy why does he complain about lawrencerayburn

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Send Email West Texas extends from El Paso to Abilene along IH-20

and south to the Rio Grande. It's a big place with few

people.

The oil and gas industry used to be the biggest supplier

of jobs. Now it is prisons.

If you want to help these people pump water, contact the City of

El Paso, or Odessa, or Midland, or Del Rio. Otherwise, don't bother

these people. They can't waste money or resources on snake oil.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:19 pm

Subject: Re: Radiant Energy why does he complain about lawrencerayburn

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Send Email Sorry, Jay,

But these people have been taken advantage of for generations by

everyone, including the oil and gas producing companies.

This is a very harsh environment and getting water from 400 feet

down is very serious business.

Drilling a water well here costs between $10 and $30 per foot,

depending on the strata. So, a 400 foot well could cost $4000

to $12000 plus the tubular goods and pump.

That doesn't sound like much money to those back east who make $100K

or more a year, but out here where a family might make $20K to $30K,

it is a significant portion of their income.

With taxes, gasoline prices, the distance between towns, and all the

other attendant problems inherit for this area, it's a wonder anyone

stays out here and tries to eke out a living.

I am protective of these people because I was born here and AM one

of them.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:51 pm

Subject: Re: Modified Tesla lawrencerayburn

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Send Email Try Lindsays Books on forgotten technology.

Look their catalog up on the web. Tesla is not the only good read

among their books.

Whatever you do, DON'T waste your money on books by Bruce A.

Perrault!

Best regards,

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:30 am

Subject: Re: Radiant Energy Conditions in West Texas lawrencerayburn

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Send Email Jay---

I don't want to hurt your feelings, but out here the relative

humidity stays between 2 and 6 percent! Evaporative air

conditioning works well out here because the extremely dry conditions

cause the water to evaporate quickly and cool the air.

Have you ever seen virga, Jay? Virga is the term for rain falling

from a cloud that never reaches the ground---is evaporated in midair.

That's how dry and hot it gets here, Jay. You can't pull 300

gallons of water per day out of such a dry atmosphere

no matter how large a volume of air you move.

In the summer the road surface (the asphalt melts) is around 175

degrees. Ambient air temperature is between 110 and 125 degrees.

We have thermals that look like tornadoes. This goes on with

temperatures well over 100 for about 100 days in the summer.

I have seen it 126 degrees 10 days straight here in 1964----and NO

rain, Jay!

To survive in the desert sometimes we have to dig a hole, put a cup

in the bottom, put plastic over the hole and seal it with sand,

and put a pebble in the middle to solar siphon and condense water

from the ground to drink. And after a full day of sunlight, you

might get a 1/4 cup of water if the sand is wet down deep. To ensure

getting some water, we cut up cactus, mesquite bushes and leaves,

and anything green we can find, put it under the plastic and let the

sun pull the water out of the green vegetation. That's how it is

out here, Jay.

Thanks for the suggestion, but you have no practical experience in

desert conditions.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: "lawrencerayburn" <srayburn@...>

Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:43 am

Subject: Re: Radiant Energy lawrencerayburn

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Send Email Gary knows Barry Theodore in Australia. Gary, ask Barry if I

ever got any information from Bruce A. Perrault, or ever

mentioned copying any designs of his to work from.

Barry has been to my farm and can tell you the conditions in the

area.

I know Barry personally and that is why I trust him to replicate

the Tesla system in Melbourne and verify what I have claimed.

When all the testing is done and verified, AND the system has been

monitored in at least a couple of serious thunderstorms and shows

itself to be stable and safe to operate under any conditions, we

will simultaneously offer kits on both continents. I am projecting

that to be the Spring of 2004.

Lawrence Rayburn

From: Samantha Rayburn

To: Sterling D. Allan

Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 1:19 AM Subject: Re: Radiant Synopsis Please

Yes, and I intend to refine it and have kits ready for the Spring of 2004, but I want to be sure the device

is stable in all conditions it must operate in and, above all, safe for the DIY homeowner to operate. We

need to check this device out inthunderstorm conditions and check its stability.

I want to make the device, tuned and set for 5Kw, 10 Kw, 20Kw, 50Kw, and 100Kw competitive and

in most cases CHEAPER than the portable power plants you can buy in Wal Mart or Hardware stores.

It should be affordable by even the poorest families---or to me it is worthless.

Lawrence Rayburn

Lawrence Rayburn srayburn@mo.quik.com