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4 8 H O M E C I N E M A C H O I C E O C T O B E R 2 0 0 7
Grouptest... 42in TVs
JVC has put a lot of store behind its
D-ILA technology rear-pros, but it still
knows a thing or to about LCD
flatpanels. How does this £1,000 42in
model rate against the competition?
Design and connectionsAesthetically the 42DA8BJ is… okay. The
gloss black screen frame is pretty enough,
but I’m not so sure about the slightly
untidy and plasticky silver outer frame.
Connections are a similarly-mixed bag.
Two HDMIs get the JVC off to a good
start, and these are backed up by a
component video input, and two RGB
Scarts. Plus there’s a digital audio output.
However, there’s no four-pin S-Video
option, and worse, no D-Sub PC input.
You can use the HDMIs as PC ports, but
only if you set your PC to match the
screen’s 1366 x 768 resolution.
Distinguishing featuresThe most important of these is definitely
DynaPix, JVC’s latest proprietary picture
processing system. Elements of this system
include Digital Image Scaling Technology
(DIST), a sophisticated scaling system
that adds in extra fine detail, especially
with standard-definition sources; black
level correction; noise reduction; and
contrast and colour management.
There’s also Digipure, which automatically
ups/down contrast settings to compensate
for any under/over contrast there may be
in the source.
Yet aside from DynaPix, the 42DA8BJ is
pretty feature-light. In fact, the only final
point worth mentioning is something the
42DA8BJ lacks: 1080p support.
PerformanceAlthough capable of sporadically excellent
pictures, the 42DA8BJ has enough problems
to ultimately seem rather outclassed by
much of its competition today.
Where the JVC’s image is good is with
bright, colour-rich material that doesn’t
contain many dark areas. HD coverage of
football, for instance, looks really vibrant
and engaging. This is down to some well-
saturated colours and lots of the brightness
that so defines the LCD experience.
HD images are also likeably sharp, with
solid presentation of the extra fine-
detailing that’s HD’s trademark. You can
pick out individual coins in the vast pile of
Barbosa’s gold on the Pirates of the
Caribbean Blu-ray, for instance.
JVC’s DIST system also helps the
42DA8BJ deliver crisper, cleaner standard-
definition pictures than is common.
So what are the problems? The main
one is black level response. The scenes
where The Bride is buried alive in Kill Bill
take place behind a really quite obvious
pall of greyness, to the extent that it’s
often difficult to see what’s going on.
Motion can also look a touch blurred,
especially versus the plasma contenders
SPECIFICATIONSITEM SUPPORT DETAILSHD Ready ●● 720p and 1080i, but no 1080pProgressive Scan ●● Compatible with 480p and 720pDigital TV Tuner ●● With 7-day EPGComposite video ●● 1 phono inputS-video ✕ Only via ScartScart ●● 2 connections (both RGB)Component video ●● 1 inputHDMI/DVI ●● 2 HDMIPC input ●● But only via HDMIHeadphone ●● 1 output
Sound: Nicam Stereo (2 x 6W)Resolution: 1366 x 768Brightness: 500ANSI Lumens; Contrast: 1000:1 (claimed)Dimensions: 1030(w) x 672(h) x 108(d)mm; Weight: 22.1kgAlso featuringDynaPix processing; backlight brightness adjust; Digipure processing;sleep timer; child lock; Hyper sound; 3D Cinema Sound; RF attenuator
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Colour ✓
Black Level ✓
Contrast ✓
Resolution ✓
LAB REPORT
in this grouptest, and the tone of
colours during dark scenes can look
slightly unnatural.
The 42DA8BJ’s audio performance
is fine. There isn’t the same raw power
and frequency range heard on higher-end
JVC sets, but you can still enjoy even
something as histrionic as the Con Air
soundtrack without fear of distortion
or tinniness.
ConclusionWe applaud JVC for delivering a perfectly
affable 42in LCD TV bearing DynaPix
processing for less than a grand. But
at the same time there’s no denying
– thanks in particular to a lack of black
level – that it’s far from the best TV in this
group test.
JVC LT-42DA8BJ£1,000 (approx) ◆ 0870 3305000 ◆ 0870 3305000 ◆
Overall Rating ★★★
JVC’s silver remote is easy to getused to
A pair of HDMI inputs lurk aboveRGB Scart and component inputs
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Tried&Tested...
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LG’s new LCD screen is the only
TV in our group test with a Full HD
1920 x 1080 pixel resolution. But
that doesn’t automatically make it the best
of the bunch.
Design and connectionsThe 42LF66’s design is great; a really sleek
combination of high-gloss finish and
unusually slender chassis.
It’s also very well connected. Two HDMIs
lead the way, with the usual support from
component video, D-Sub PC and Scart jacks.
Then there’s a digital audio output, and the
discovery that the HDMIs will take in
1080p signals.
Distinguishing featuresThe 42LF66’s 1920 x 1080 Full HD pixel
count is, as I’ve said, unique within this
group test. And I’m pleased to say LG
backs it up with a 1:1 pixel mapping mode,
for showing HD sources without any
overscanning processing.
There certainly is some picture
processing going on, though, namely LG’s
venerable XD Engine system. The version
here is optimised for Full HD performance,
and is out to deliver its customary
improvements to colour, black level,
detailing, motion-handling and contrast.
The screen also offers separate MPEG and
standard noise reduction routines; a good-
looking claimed contrast ratio of 5000:1;
and ‘Simplink’ control via the TV’s remote of
other LG gear attached to the HDMIs.
PerformanceTo the untrained eye, the 42LF66’s
pictures probably look amazing. Colours,
for instance, are blasted out with more
vibrancy and intensity than I can recall
seeing on any flat TV before. Animated
movies like Shrek can thus frequently
look quite breathtaking, while more
‘naturalistic’ sources like The Prestige
on HD DVD also look remarkably rich
and solid.
What’s more, the intensity of the LG’s
colours doesn’t preclude either natural
skintones or some pleasing subtlety with
colour blends.
The 42LF66 scores an instant hit with its
fine-detailing, too, reproducing sharp HD
sequences like the opening space battle in
The Revenge of the Sith (recorded from
Sky HD) with exceptional ‘snap’. The sense
of sharpness is enhanced by the panel’s
crisp handling of motion.
It’s mostly downhill from here, though.
The biggest problem is that old LCD
chestnut of black level response. The
infamous ‘buried alive’ sequence in Kill
Bill catches the LG out almost as badly as
the JVC, with clear evidence of greyness
where things should look nearly totally
black. What’s more, dark areas also look
hollow thanks to a lack of shadow detail.
Elsewhere, quite a lot of noise slips into
standard-definition playback (even though
this does also look sharper than is
common with Full HD LCD TVs), and edges
occasionally looking over-stressed.
Although the 42LF66’s chassis is slender,
it still produces good volume and range
with the full-on Con Air soundtrack
– though a little more bass extension
would have sealed the deal.
ConclusionThe 42LF66 is remarkably cheap for
a 42in Full HD LCD TV, and has a flare
for the dramatic that will win it many
shallow friends. But more discerning
eyes will find all the sharpness/colour
aggression and bluster hiding a definite
flaw or two.
LG 42LF66£1,150 (approx) ◆ 0870 6075544 ◆ www.lge.co.uk ◆
Overall Rating ★★★½
SPECIFICATIONSITEM SUPPORT DETAILSHD Ready ●● 720p, 1080i, and 1080pProgressive Scan ●● 480p, 720p and 1080pDigital TV Tuner ●● with 7-day EPGComposite video ●● 1 phono inputS-video ●● 1 inputScart ●● 2 connections (1 RGB)Component video ●● 1 inputHDMI/DVI ●● 2 HDMIPC input ●● 1 D-Sub connectionHeadphone ●● 1 output
Sound: Nicam stereo (2 x 10W)Resolution: 1920 x 1080Brightness: 450ANSI Lumens (claimed); Contrast: 5000:1 (claimed)Dimensions: 1033(w) x 687(h) x 88.5(d)mm; Weight: 23kgAlso featuringXD Engine processing, 1:1 pixel mapping, TruV panel wide angle viewing,MPEG NR, standard noise reduction, black level booster, cinema mode,XD Colour processing, MAX surround sound mode, digital audio output
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Colour ✓
Black Level ✓
Contrast ✓
Resolution ✓
LAB REPORT
A dedicated PC input is a welcometouch from LG
The handset is a vast improvementover previous LG models
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Grouptest... 42in TVs
Arguably the most consistent name
in plasma makes its traditional
talents available at by far the
cheapest price it’s ever managed. So is
there anything not to like?
Design and connectionsPanasonic has ditched the rather
uninspiring plasticky grey seen on its
previous plasma generation in favour of a
much more sophisticated all-over black.
The 42PX70’s connections unusually
exclude the two lowest-quality connection
options around, composite RCA and four-
pin S-video. But you do get two 1080p-
capable HDMIs and a component jack for
HD applications, not to mention Scarts and
a D-Sub PC port for computer use.
Distinguishing featuresAfter the relatively low contrast ratio
figures of our two LCD contenders,
it’s nice to find the 42PX70 claiming
a more reassuring 10000:1. Naturally this
is delivered with the help of Panasonic’s
tried and trusted Real Black Drive
technology, along with a new Deep
Black Filter.
Probably the 42PX70’s main feature,
though, is its V-Real 2 video processing
engine. Elements of this include digital
re-mastering for upscaling non-1080p
sources to 1080p for playback; a Digital
Optimiser that detects and removes noise
types common to digital video feeds; and
motion pattern noise reduction which
reduces false contouring during motion.
Otherwise the only thing really worth
adding is that while the 42PX70’s 1080p
talents do extend to accepting the
1080p/24Hz format, 1080p/24 pictures
oddly appear without any audio.
PerformanceAfter the slightly uninspiring efforts of our
two LCD efforts, the 42PX70’s pictures are
a breath of fresh air. Particularly gratifying
is its black level, which looks both much
deeper and much more natural than those
of the JVC and LG contenders. This
immediately helps dark scenes, like those
on the crashed alien ship in Alien, look
much more cinematic and immersive
– especially as there’s loads of subtle
shadow detailing on show.
The 42PX70’s colours aren’t as vibrant
as those of the LCD models, but they more
than compensate for this with generally
good toning and loads of expressive
subtlety. Similarly, although HD images
don’t look as ultra-sharp as with the LCDs,
they also appear less noisy and forced.
Football coverage, meanwhile, shows
the 42PX70 to be free of motion blur, and
a little daytime TV viewing soon convinces
me that the 42PX70 is unusually good
at handling standard-definition sources.
Normally I could just leave the review
here, with the 42PX70’s strengths
speaking for themselves. But today is not
a normal day, for the simple reason that
elsewhere in this grouptest is the
astounding new plasma TV from Pioneer...
SPECIFICATIONSITEM SUPPORT DETAILSHD Ready ●● 720p, 1080i, and 1080pProgressive Scan ●● Compatible with 480p, 720p, 1080pDigital TV Tuner ●● With 7-day EPGComposite video ✕ RIPS-video ✕ DittoScart ●● 2 connections (both RGB)Component video ●● 1 inputHDMI/DVI ●● 2 HDMIPC input ●● 1 D-Sub connectionHeadphone ●● 1 output
Sound: Nicam Stereo (2x10W)Resolution: 1024 x 768Brightness: No claim made; Contrast: 10000:1 (claimed)Dimensions: 1020(w) x 680(h) x 97(d)mm; Weight: 35kgAlso featuringVreal2 processing, 1080p playback, Deep Black Filter, Viera HDMIcompatibility, Sub-pixel controller, 3D colour management, Noisereduction, Owner ID security, Pseudo surround audio option
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Colour ✓
Black Level ✓
Contrast ✓
Resolution ✓
LAB REPORT
And so now I must acknowledge minor
flaws in the 42PX70’s make up. For
instance, rich reds sporadically look a touch
orangey. Also, I noticed traces of dithering
over skintones during our footy viewing
and camera pans can judder a little. Finally
there’s a visible ‘ghost’ image if you watch
off-axis caused by the Panny’s thick front
glass arrangement.
The 42PX70’s speakers, meanwhile, are
an improvement over those of the screen’s
predecessors, delivering enough power
and clarity to handle our explosive
Con Air DVD well.
ConclusionThe advances of a rival in this grouptest
have finally shown a Panasonic plasma
TV to be less than perfect. But the 42PX70
does have one last saving ace up its
sleeve: its price. At a grand it really
is one heck of a bargain, and as such
remains easy to recommend ■
PANASONIC TH-42PX70£1,000 (approx) ◆ 08705 357357 ◆ www.panasonic.co.uk ◆
Overall Rating ★★★★½
The death knell has sounded forS-video and composite here
Panasonic’s remote has had a stylebypass, but it’s easy to use
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Tried&Tested...
Can the first 42in model from
Pioneer’s ‘KURO’ range make the
same level of impact the brand’s
50in model did in our last issue? Somehow,
I suspect it might…
Design and connectionsThe ultra-minimal and high-gloss black
design of the PDP-428XD is an exercise in
opulent elegance.
Its connectivity is also fittingly
prodigious for what is after all a premium-
priced TV. Three HDMIs lead the charge,
receiving support from a D-Sub PC input,
component video jacks, all the usual
analogue, standard-def suspects, an RS232
input, and even a USB2 port for direct
playback of digital photos.
Distinguishing featuresThe Pioneer claims a contrast ratio of
16000:1 – the highest I’ve seen on a
plasma TV (hence the ‘KURO’ side name,
since Kuro is Japanese for black).
Delivering this black level is a quartet
of technologies. Pioneer’s unique Ultra
Black Crystal Layer ups the response
efficiency of the plasma cells; a Deep
Waffle Rib pixel structure uses unusually
high walls between cells to reduce light
seepage; Pioneer’s Direct Colour Filter
replaces the traditional thick glass front
panel with a reflection-absorbing film
alternative; and special image processing
treats dark and light scenes in completely
different ways.
Other key facts about Pioneer’s 428XD
are that it can be professionally calibrated
to your room environment by an
Imaging Science Foundation-approved
engineer, and can receive 1080p signals
in their 50, 60 and 24Hz formats. Even
better, the set can show the 1080p/24Hz
format using a 72Hz playback system
that should reduce artefacting and
image judder.
PerformanceThe 428XD produces the best picture I’ve
seen on a 42in flat TV. And here’s why.
The black level it produces really is
genuinely revolutionary (helped by an
impressive real world contrast ratio of
1700:1 after calibration). The night-time
assault on a Berlin factory in Mission:
Impossible III enjoys absolutely
immaculate blackness, with a perfectly
natural tone, bags of shadow detail, and
not a trace of the greyness that
characterises so many flat TV rivals.
Colours are also the best I’ve seen
on a flat TV, enjoying jaw-dropping
vibrancy and total naturalism. Comparing
the rich reds of the Sky News channel
logo as shown by this Pioneer with how
they look even on a screen as good as the
Panasonic 42PX70 shows the rivals’
efforts to be looking decidedly orange.
There’s also remarkable subtlety in
the screen’s colour blends, motion is
handled with complete clarity and
smoothness (especially watching
1080p/24Hz in the TV’s 72Hz mode) and
Pioneer’s processing does a regal job of
suppressing noise.
Interestingly, all of the strengths just
described combine to make the 428XD
produce remarkably sharp, detailed
pictures too – pictures that look so sharp
from the screen’s 1024 x 768 pixels that
they actually give many Full HD LCDs
a run for their money, especially when
there’s motion.
The speakers supplied with the 428XD,
meanwhile, are typical Pioneer. Which is to
say they’re really very good indeed.
ConclusionPioneer’s 428XD is frankly so clearly
ahead of the rest of the pack that if it
wasn’t for its premium price tag,
everybody else might as well just pack
up and go home ■
PIONEER PDP-428XD£1,800 (approx) ◆ 01753 789500 ◆ www.pioneer.co.uk ◆
Overall Rating ★★★★★
SPECIFICATIONSITEM SUPPORT DETAILSHD Ready ●● 720p, 1080i, and 1080pProgressive Scan ●● Compatible with 480p, 720p, 1080pDigital TV Tuner ●● With 7-day EPGComposite video ●● 1 phono inputS-video ●● 1 inputScart ●● 3 connections (2 RGB)Component video ●● 1 inputsHDMI/DVI ●● 3 HDMIPC input ●● 1 D-Sub connectionHeadphone ●● 1 output
Sound: Nicam stereo (2 x 17W)Resolution: 1024 x 768Brightness: No claimed made; Contrast: 16000:1 (claimed)Dimensions: 115(d) x 679(h) x 1040(w)mm; Weight: 29.6kgAlso featuringHD Digital Film Direct mode (24fps); HDMI CEC control; ISF C3 Ready; Ultrablack crystal layer; Direct Colour Filter 3; Active; Home gallery by USB 2.0;I-Clear Drive; Various noise reduction systems; subwoofer output
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Colour ✓
Black Level ✓
Contrast ✓
Resolution ✓
LAB REPORT
Three HDMIs and three Scarts makethis plasma connection-tastic
Obviously, the KURO remote wasgoing to be black
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Grouptest... 42in TVs
As the cheapest contender in this
grouptest – it’s barely half the
price of the stellar Pioneer PDP-
428XD – is this Samsung also the worst?
Design and connectionsSamsung TVs are consistently among the
prettiest around, and the PS42Q97HD is a
chip off the uber-stylish old block.
Its connections will set your pulse racing
too, since they include three HDMIs. What’s
more, a dedicated D-Sub PC input means
you don’t have to sacrifice one of these
precious HDMIs to computer use, and you
get all the component/Scart/S-Video/
composite video standards.
Distinguishing featuresThe PS42Q97HD boasts a 15000:1 contrast
ratio – just 1000:1 short of the figure
quoted by Pioneer’s revolutionary KURO
screens. Helping Samsung achieve this is
the brand’s Ultra FilterBright technology,
reckoned to remove up to 90 per cent of
ambient light reflections. Plus there’s a
new Optimal Light Filter element, which
reduces light diffusion as the picture
emerges through the screen.
Next of note is a Movie Plus Mode,
which interpolates extra frames of image
to make moving objects look smoother
and sharper. Plus there’s a ‘Silhouette
Editor’ that smoothes out the PS42Q97HD’s
contour reproduction and reduces motion
noise, and a Natural True Colour system
that optimises colour tones even during
action scenes.
Finally on the processing front you get
Samsung’s Digital Natural Image engine
for further tweaking colours, contrast,
motion and sharpness.
On the negative side, the PS42Q97HD’s
HDMIs don’t take 1080p feeds – but they
are CEC-enabled for one-remote control of
any connected CEC-capable sources.
PerformanceThe PS42Q97HD is a more likeable
performer than you’ve a right to expect
for its money.
For starters, while its black level doesn’t
live up to the 15,000:1 promise (our real
world measurement rates it at 700:1), it is
nonetheless very good for a 42in TV
retailing for £950. The space backdrop to
the opening battle of Revenge of the Sith,
for instance, looks inkier and more star-
packed than I often see at this price point.
The Samsung’s pictures are also bright
despite their black level accomplishments,
and colours are vibrant, solid and mostly
naturally toned.
The pristine BD transfer of Casino Royale,
meanwhile, is reproduced with good
sharpness and solid detailing, ensuring
plenty of impact from such HD delights as
the shot of St Mark’s Square that
establishes the Venice sequence.
The PS42Q97HD is also less prone
to video noise than most budget screens,
SPECIFICATIONSITEM SUPPORT DETAILSHD Ready ●● 720p, 1080i, but no 1080pProgressive Scan ●● Compatible with 480p, 720pDigital TV Tuner ●● With 7-day EPGComposite video ●● 1 phono inputS-video ●● 1 inputScart ●● 2 connections (1 x RGB)Component video ●● 1 inputHDMI/DVI ●● 3 HDMIPC input ●● 1 D-Sub connectionHeadphone ●● 1 output
Sound: Nicam Stereo (2x10W)Resolution: 1024 x 768Brightness: 1300cd/m2 (claimed); Contrast: 15000:1 (claimed)Dimensions: 104(d) x 700(h) x 1055(w)mm; Weight: 30.6kgAlso featuringUltra FilterBright system; Silhouette Editor processing; Natural TrueColour system; black, gamma, white balance and colour space adjust;DNIe, SRS XT audio processing, game mode, home theatre PC setting
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Colour ✓
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Contrast ✓
Resolution ✓
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with even plasma’s common
problem with dithering over skintones
largely eradicated.
My only caveat with this TV is that you
can mess its pictures up if you’re not
careful with the settings. For instance, the
Dynamic image preset option is far too
aggressive, bringing forth otherwise
dormant noise. The Movie Plus mode
introduces a distracting shimmering effect
at the edges of moving objects, too.
The PS42Q97HD’s speakers prove more
potent and clear than those of Samsung’s
previous flat TV range.
ConclusionA typically appealing all-rounder from
Samsung that treads just the right line
between performance, design, features
and price.
SAMSUNG PS42Q97HD£950 (approx) ◆ 0870 2420303 ◆ www.samsung.co.uk ◆
Overall Rating ★★★★
Connectivity is good: there is athird side-mounted HDMI input
Samsung’s minimalist handset isvery user-friendly
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Tried&Tested...
CONCLUSIONLCD technology has scored some notable successes in recent bigscreen shoot outs. But
today is just not its day, as we find both the LCD entrants occupying the bottom two
slots of our league table.
Bringing up the rear is JVC’s 42DA8BJ. We should say that under certain conditions
– ie, with really bright, colourful sources – this screen can look outstanding.
But we ultimately can’t forgive it for its fairly serious black level shortcomings.
The same problem plagues the LG 42LF66, albeit to a slightly lesser extent, meaning
that even the extreme HD sharpness delivered by its Full HD pixel count can’t lift it into our
medal positions today.
In third I’ve placed Samsung’s PS42Q97HD. This plasma TV is yet another
masterclass from the Korean brand in how to give the mass market exactly what
it wants: loads of features, good performance standards and sumptuous looks
– all for a truly budget price.
In fact, the Samsung model got dangerously close to achieving what would
before today have been unthinkable, and edging ahead of a Panasonic plasma.
But in the end Panasonic’s new aggressive pricing, together with its still very
impressive picture quality, does just enough to give the popular Japanese brand the
silver medal slot.
Cruising home to take the gold medal by a good furlong or two is Pioneer’s
PDP-428XD. When this TV arrived I had genuine concerns that it just wouldn’t be able
to justify its self-consciously premium price point. But its performance really is in a
whole different league to even that of the Panasonic, meaning that quality-obsessives
will have no hesitation whatsoever in declaring it worth every penny of its asking
price – and more ■
RATINGS1. Pioneer PDP-428XD £1,800 (approx)
Highs: Revolutionarily good pictures, lovely build quality, great features and connectionsLows: All the splendour on offer will cost you
Picture Sound Features Overall★★★★★ ★★★★ ★★★★★ ★★★★★
2. Panasonic TH-42PX70 £1,000 (approx)Highs: Generally excellent pictures, especially with black level; nice design great priceLows: Slightly orangey reds, can see offset image if you watch from an angle
Picture Sound Features Overall★★★★½ ★★★★ ★★★★½ ★★★★½
3. Samsung PS42Q97HD £950 (approx)Highs: Gorgeous design, outstanding value, good all-round performerLows: You need to be careful during setup, otherwise you can mess its pictures around
Picture Sound Features Overall★★★★ ★★★★ ★★★★ ★★★★
4. LG 42LF66 £1,150 (approx)Highs: Well designed, affordable for a Full HD panel, really vivid colours, good feature setLows: Noisy standard definition pictures, tepid black level
Picture Sound Features Overall★★★½ ★★★★½ ★★★★½ ★★★½
5. JVC LT-42DA8BJ £1,000 (approx)Highs: Decent price, bright colours, good picture detailLows: No 1080p support, average black level, occasional colour tone issues
Picture Sound Features Overall★★★ ★★★★ ★★★★ ★★★
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