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Partial Transcript of Stenographic Notes
of the Regular En Banc
Held on March 30, 2010
Present:
Chairman
Comrnissioner
Commissioner
CommissionerCommissioner
Comrnissioner
Comrnissioner
Discussions on Secrecy Folder
Comm. Sarmiento
Chairman Melo
Comm. Tagle
Comm. Sarmiento
Comm. Tagle
Comm. Sarmiento
Exec. Dir. Tolentino, Jr.
Comm. Sanniento
Exec. Dir. Tolentino, Jr.
Chairman Melo
Exec. Dir. Tolentino. Jr.
Chairman Melo
Jose A.R. Melo
Rene V. Sarmiento
Nicodemo T. Ferrer
Lucenito N. TagleArmando C. Velasco
Elias R. Yusoph
Gregorio Y,Larrazabal
Other matters Chair, tungkol ito doon sa security folders na doble
ong,
Secrecy
Secrecy folder
And then ang total amount ay six hundred eighty nine millionseven hundred thousand (Php 689,700,000.00) di pa kasama iyung
delivery, now ang concem natin ito ay gagamitin isang araw lang
baka maging issue sa atin ito, napakalaking amount, oo, umabot
ng 700 lumalabas iyung 380 baka Jun masyadong malaki
Magkano isa?
Lumalabas iyut g 380 per baka Jun masyadong malaki
Sir ano iyan, that was submitted by the BAC and then naka
indicate naman sa recommendations nila na ito iyung quantity ito
iyung unit price then in-approve naman, Sir ang palagay ko Sir
ang iniiisip nila dito sa ballot secrecy folder is like this it is not, in
fact diba nga sinasabi natin, it's so sturdy even without desk
even if you are on a bench you can put it in your lap, right now
sinasabi natin we can use it only once if we decide to automate sa
next election using a paper based elections at least reusable
That is in the event may... automation eh kung wala sayang
iyung 700 million
Kasi Sir on the basis of the resolution approving it
Yah, yah, we know that
The BAC already issued a notice of award
Ang ano diyan there was a resolution trom the BAC which we
approve the design, diba the design then later on the BAC came
up with a resolution again saying na parang direct negotiation
Yes Sirxec, Dir. Tolentino, Jr.
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Chairman Melo
Comm. Sarmiento
Atty. Dela Cruz
Comm. Sarmiento
Comm. Tagle
Comm. Ferer
Comm. Sarmiento
Comm. Velasco
Comm. Sarmiento
Comm. Velasco
Comm. Sarmiento
Exec. Dir. Tolentino, Jr.
Chairman Melo
Comm. Ferer
Chairman Melo
Comm. Sarmiento
Chairman Melo
Comm. Yusoph
Comm. Tagle
Comm. Sarmiento
Ayon, iyorr ang inapprove natin now we are having second
thoughts na to tell you the truth because of the arnount inrrolved
baka pagusapan tayo sa labas
Actually Chair may complaint na po Chair eh a certain Dr. AlvinSenano of PPCRV wrclte a letter to the Cornelec En Banc
expressing his; concerns with the big amount of contract, may
letter na po
Kasi sa TV ang pinapakita ganitong folder, oo i-inseft mo iyang
ballot mo diyan ganito siya ganito lang folder
So siguro Chair there is a remedy..... considering this big amount
oh baka ..... baka ma cancel
Pero awarded na yata
It is violative of the procurement law, canceling....
And then may recommendation Chair ang Law Department na weaclopt the same ordinary ballot secrecy folders in the same
specifications as in the past so i-cite mo na lang. . ..
Pagdugtungin
Pagdugtungin
Iyung dalawa para
Ang issue malambot
Yes Sir, I am not def-ending the reason why we had a stacking
folder is to make sure that when the voter will write hindi ma
. . ..paganoon sa desk or what in addition
No problem about that eh, the design of the secrecy folder iyung
ipinakita rito maganda talaga kanya lang ngayon lumalabas na .
Iyung cost
Secrecy folder iyun lang ang ano
Isang gamit lang
Baka isang gamit lang iyan ang ano, that in the eyes of the public
it's just a folder to keep your choice. a secret but you are spending
so big an amount iyon ang ano, baka pag suspetsahan tayung lahat
ayon so what is the desire of the ano
We have to cancel it, we might be criticized for that, that would
be another f-ertilizer scam
Baka ma headline tayo
I am sure 703? lang iyon eh ito six hundred eighty nine (689)
plus delivery baka lalo pang, mga seven hundred (700) iyan
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Comm. Lanazabal The BAC was the one who made the recommendation
Chairman Melo At saka hindi bidding ito eh
Comm. Tagle Ah hindi, direct
Comm. Sarmiento Procurement without public biddingSo Chair I would join si Comm. Yusoph Chair and Comm.
Nick,.. ". Cancellation
Chairman Melo On what ground, on what ground
Comm. Sarmiento Siguro we look into Chair on possible legal basis for cancellation
Comm. Fener If there is a violation of the procurement law.
Comm. Sarmiento Sir meron siyang memo and I think the memorandum of DirectorRafanan .....pero noong binabasa ni Josie kahapon it appears that
the question is not on the procedure
Comm. Ferer It's in the pricing
Exec. Dir. Tolentino, Jr. Yes
Chairman Melo It's on the?
Comm. Ferrer Pricing
Exec. Dir. Tolentino, Jr. And I don't think he is questioning the procedure it's just the price
Comm. Velasco Seven hundred (700) almost 10% of the total amount ofautomation, automation is seven (7) B and this one is seven
hundred (700) most cumbersome
Comm. Sarmiento Sir.... Dir Rafanan and I looked into this included in theirrecommendation Chair for possible legal basis for cancellation
Chairman Melo Sigue, alright
Comm. Tagle Kailan ang deadline niyan
Comm. Sarmiento Kailan ang deadline nito Jun?
Exec. Dir. Tolentino, Jr. Kaya iyan minadali Sir kasi iyung Shipping Committee wanted to
include that doon sa non accountable forms and supplies
Chairman Melo So
Comm. Tagle Problema
Chairman Melo When do wetake
up this matter again?
Comm. Velasco Next banc
Exec. Dir. Tolentino, Jr. Sir ang sa akin naman Sir, probably it wouldn't be proper to
cancel it kasi nag issue na nag notice of award eh baka tayo naman
ang ma demanda niyan
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Chairman Melo Yah, oh iyan
Exec. Dir. Tolentino, Jr. Most siguro Sir, negotiate for a lower price but not to cancel it kasi
noong nag notice of award most probably nag order na iyan, and
the only reason hindi nakaka-deliver is because of the requirementthat the purchase order must first be issued before delivery
Comm. Sarmiento May notice of award na, sigue Chair.....
Chairman Melo So what other matters iyung ano,
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rt'ffi-t<,zVirginia L. Robles
Stenographic Reporter IIIOffice of the Comelec Secretary