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    News from the Washington File

    01 October 2001Transcript: White House Daily Briefing, October 1, 2001

    (President's schedule, travel, vaccinations, terrorist threats, Reagan

    National Airport, anti-terrorism legislation, personal

    income/spending, military draft, Americans held in Afghanistan,

    funding of rebel groups in Afghanistan, Afghanistan, harboring

    terrorists, India, U.N. Conference on Terrorism, Mideast, Bush/visit

    to mosque, Afghanistan/aid, federal funds/rates) (5560)

    White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer briefed.

    Following is the White House transcript:

    (begin transcript)

    THE WHITE HOUSE

    Office of the Press Secretary

    October 1, 2001

    PRESS BRIEFING BY ARI FLEISCHER

    INDEX

    -- President's schedule

    -- Travel

    -- Vaccinations

    -- Threats of additional terrorist attacks

    -- Reagan National Airport

    -- Anti-terrorism legislation

    -- Domestic agenda

    -- Personal income and spending

    -- Draft

    -- Americans held in Afghanistan

    -- Funding of rebel groups in Afghanistan

    -- Government of Afghanistan

    -- Harboring terrorists

    -- India

    -- U.N. Conference on Terrorism

    -- Transcript discrepancy

    -- Middle East

    -- President's visit to mosque

    -- Aid to Afghanistan

    -- Federal funds rates

    THE WHITE HOUSE

    Office of the Press Secretary

    October 1, 2001

    PRESS BRIEFING BY ARI FLEISCHER

    The James S. Brady Briefing Room

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    Q: Will the First Lady go with him?

    MR. FLEISCHER: I'll have more information to you shortly; I don't have

    that yet.

    Q: Has the President updated his small pox vaccination? Has he had an

    anthrax inoculation? And have gas masks been issued in the WhiteHouse?

    MR. FLEISCHER: I'll have to ask on the vaccinations -- I don't know

    the answer to it. And I'm not aware of any distribution of gas masks

    to staff in the White House.

    Q: Have you updated your vaccination?

    MR. FLEISCHER: Thank you for your interest, Helen. (Laughter.) I have

    not.

    Q: On the broader question, Ari, do you think it would be wise for

    Americans to consider doing such a thing, considering what someadministration officials have said about the possible -- possible --

    threat of biological or chemical attacks in this country?

    MR. FLEISCHER: Well, I think Secretary Thompson of Health and Human

    Services addressed that last night, when he indicated that in the wake

    of the attack on New York City, the federal government moved supplies

    into the region that turned out to be unnecessary, but the government

    is as prepared as possible to do as much as can be done. I'm not aware

    of anybody advising the American people to do that. That's a question

    more for health professionals. But I have not heard any such

    advisement.

    Q: In spite of the continued warnings of the possibility of further

    terrorist attacks, stories over the weekend indicated that

    administration officials said that there was no new intelligence, that

    this was based on the situation as it had developed and on proper

    concern. And out of concern I guess also to get the anti-terrorism

    package passed -- comport with what you understand?

    MR. FLEISCHER: Well, I think what you heard over the weekend, as

    you've heard since September 11th, has been reminders that the United

    States still faces threats. And those threats are of a general nature.

    Obviously, we did not have any specific information about the attacks

    on September 11th, yet attacks still took place.

    So what the President is working very hard to do is find that balance,

    to let Americans know that threats do remain. The government is taking

    all steps necessary to counter those threats, including planning

    domestically at home. But the most important action the government can

    take is going after the terrorists who did it, so they don't have any

    abilities to do it again.

    But that's the tenor of it, that's separate and apart from the

    important need to pass legislation on the Hill that can give the

    government the tools it needs to fight terrorism.

    Q: What Attorney General Ashcroft specifically said is there is a very

    serious threat of additional problems now, and he went on to say,

    we've not been able to rule out plans for hijacking additional

    aircraft. The President has also been out there saying, get back to

    work, America; get up in the skies. What is it?

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    MR. FLEISCHER: Terry, we've discussed this here repeatedly, and it's

    both. And that's the reality of life in America today. And events

    changed life on September 11th, and I think that's plain for all to

    see. And the American people are responding. Air travel has been

    increasing on a regular basis, particularly in the last week, and

    that's a healthy sign across the country. But it's also important thegovernment has been forthright about it, that threats remain. And

    that's why the President announced the airline safety package last

    week that he is intent on moving forward to provide greater security

    in the cockpits, more federal marshals, greater training,

    federalization of background checks and screening.

    So a series of actions have been taken and will continue to be taken

    to do everything possible to make America as safe as can be. But the

    one issue will always remain in our country, so long as we are free

    and so long as we are open, threats from terrorism remain. And that's

    why the President is as determined as he is to treat this as a war, in

    reality, and to take it to the enemy so that the cause of terrorism

    can be rooted out, so Americans can again find that balance betweenliberty and fear, and so liberty can win.

    Q: Just to follow up on this, are administration officials

    unnecessarily alarming people, though, with these very strong warnings

    of serious threats of additional terrorist activity?

    MR. FLEISCHER: I think if you look at the reactions from the American

    people, the American people are appreciative of the forthrightness of

    the government. I think the government has an obligation to be

    forthright, and that's why you're hearing these measured statements

    from government leaders.

    Q: The Attorney General also said yesterday that it was his estimation

    that the threat of a terrorist attack could increase in this country

    based on the retaliation, military retaliation, of the U.S.

    government. Does the President, number one, agree with that? And,

    number two, does that in any way inhibit the choices he may make?

    MR. FLEISCHER: Major, I think the point that the Attorney General and

    others are making is that threats do remain. But in no case will those

    threats deter the President from carrying out this mission and winning

    this war. And the President will take whatever actions are necessary

    to take this war to the terrorists who have already attacked our

    country and to those who continue to harbor the terrorists.

    Q: Ari, getting back to Reagan National, will the President make a

    decision this week? It's supposed to be soon.

    MR. FLEISCHER: I don't have a hard schedule for you on when the

    President will make a decision about that matter, but the President is

    going to have additional conversations with his staff this week about

    that. And as soon as there is something more definitive to say, it

    will be shared with you.

    Q: Well, there's a version out there he's leaning in the direction of

    opening it. Is that true?

    MR. FLEISCHER: Well, the President is very, very aware of the

    implications of leaving National Airport closed for the people who

    work in Northern Virginia, for the thousands of employees and their

    families and the impact that leaving National closed would have on

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    them.

    He's also aware of the implications of leaving National closed would

    have on US Airways and its ability to operate. He's very sensitive on

    those points.

    There are obviously security considerations because of the uniquelocation of National Airport, which literally puts the airplanes on

    the flight path to and from National seconds away from many major

    federal facilities.

    So the President is listening to his top transportation and security

    experts on that issue, but I think the President is very hopeful that

    he can find a solution that allows all those concerns to be addressed.

    Q: On the issue of National Airport, Ashcroft was out this weekend

    talking about the continued threats. When is the fine line crossed

    between security and the economy? I mean, we know National Airport,

    you know -- that airport has a lot of employees that live in this

    area. But when do you cross the line of trying to keep the nation safeand fears of anthrax and fears of another airport -- airline running

    into another building? What do you do?

    MR. FLEISCHER: You have faith in the American people. The American

    people want to know what the facts are. And the American people will

    react accordingly, and they'll react well. And that's the strength of

    our country, and it always has been. So there always is that issue of

    how a government official can find the appropriate balance between

    letting the country know the facts and taking all appropriate action

    to deal with those facts. And I think that's a line that the

    government officials you've heard talk have tried to find. I think

    they've found it.

    Q: Wait a minute, just to follow up. But if National is reopened this

    week, the economy outweighed security on this matter?

    MR. FLEISCHER: No, I think that a balance would have been found. I'm

    not sure I would say that any one outweighed the other. And I think

    you have to wait and hear what the resolution is and the manner in

    which it's resolved, too. The specifics will be very important. But it

    will be a question of finding the appropriate balance.

    Look, I think throughout the country people are re-jiggering what they

    took for granted, what all of us took for granted before September

    11th. You listen to the American people go to airports now, and

    statements that people are making now are statements they never would

    have made before September 11th. People saying, I'm happy to wait in

    line an hour. I mean, people are saying that they understand the need

    for more security at this time. I don't think it's anything that

    anybody wants, but they understand it, and they're accepting of it.

    And that's why I say, you have faith in the country.

    Q: On the anti-terrorism legislation, Ari. Does the President feel, as

    Attorney General Ashcroft, that immigrants suspected of terrorist

    actions or being involved in terrorist actions should remain in jail

    until their cases are adjudicated? Or does he believe there should be

    a time limit, the seven days being considered --

    MR. FLEISCHER: The President supports the package that the Attorney

    General has proposed to the Congress.

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    Q: You do not see a concern there in cases that perhaps drag on, and

    people being held during that period of time?

    MR. FLEISCHER: The President supports the package the Attorney General

    has sent to the Congress.

    Q: Ari, there is a whole bunch of legislation now on the Hill dealingwith this attack and the fallout from it. There's the anti-terrorism

    -- or counter-terrorism package that he was talking about, there's the

    economic stimulus package, there's a package about germ warfare,

    there's one on infrastructure security and probably others I don't

    even know about. Are there priorities here that the White House would

    like to set for Congress?

    MR. FLEISCHER: On the counter-terrorism?

    Q: On the whole --

    MR. FLEISCHER: Well, clearly it begins with the package that the

    Attorney General has proposed, which is the subject of discussion onthe Hill as we speak. It's a potential that there will be action in

    the House Judiciary Committee on it this week. The administration has

    been working very closely with members of the House, as well as with

    Chairman Leahy and others in the Senate who have just jurisdiction

    over this. So, as always, it's very important to listen to Congress

    and to work the deliberative process the Congress puts in place. And

    those efforts are underway now.

    Q: What about these other things that I mentioned?

    MR. FLEISCHER: Give me some specifics again.

    Q: Germ warfare, infrastructure security, economic stimulus, airline

    workers.

    MR. FLEISCHER: Well, each one of those is a different topic. On the

    question of stimulus, for example, and an aid to people who have lost

    their jobs as a result of the attacks, the President is going to have

    a meeting tomorrow morning with the congressional leadership. This is

    now part of what I would refer to you as his weekly consultative

    meetings with the leaders.

    I don't think there are going to be any decisions made, necessarily,

    at tomorrow morning's meeting. After these meetings take place,

    typically what happens is each leader has to go back and talk to their

    rank and file. In the case of the House, that means each leader has to

    talk to a couple hundred people. In the case of the Senate, that means

    each leader has to go back and talk to scores of people.

    But the point is, the President wants to put together a very

    bipartisan mechanism with the leaders so that he can share their ideas

    in private at these meetings and talk about how they can get

    agreements together, and then let the deliberative process take over

    from there.

    Q: So are you saying that after the counter-terrorism bill, there

    really isn't an established set of priorities at this point?

    MR. FLEISCHER: Well, I think they're all important. And you can add to

    that list the domestic agenda, action on education, because that will

    always be important to this country in times of war and peace, having

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    But you know, when the President says those things I think it's also

    very helpful to local police and state police and others who are not

    directly under federal jurisdiction about the importance of the role

    that they play throughout the country in being the eyes and ears of

    the law enforcement community at the grass-roots level.

    Q: If it's true that there is an increase risk of bioterrorism --

    people talking about it over the weekend -- why shouldn't Americans

    take more preventative actions? Why shouldn't they be looking for

    different types of inoculations or gas masks, or whatever,

    particularly in potentially affected cities like Washington, D.C.?

    MR. FLEISCHER: Those statements would come from the appropriate law

    enforcement officials based on any information they have. And as I

    indicated, I'm not aware of anybody in government who has recommended

    such a step.

    Q: Two more on Afghanistan. Does the White House envision a time when

    the draft would be reactivated? And also, I know you don't negotiatewith the Taliban, but do you have any words of warning to them about

    the foreign aid, Christian aid workers who are under arrest?

    MR. FLEISCHER: On the question of the draft, as I've indicated twice

    earlier in briefings over the last couple of weeks, I've checked with

    DOD and they have told me that there is no discussion of that.

    Q: But Rumsfeld seemed to open the door a little bit yesterday.

    MR. FLEISCHER: What did he say?

    Q: He seemed to -- I got the impression that it was not totally ruled

    out on the future, although --

    MR. FLEISCHER: I did not get that impression from listening to him.

    And on the question of the workers in Afghanistan, if you recall, in

    the President's address to the Congress and to the nation two Thursday

    nights ago, the President did say that one of the demands is the

    unconditional release of the Americans who are being held by the

    Taliban for preaching Christianity.

    Q: Is the President concerned that funding some of the rebel groups in

    Afghanistan could, in the end, create a version of the Taliban as, or

    more, radical than the one that exists there now?

    MR. FLEISCHER: That fighting the Taliban could result in that?

    Q: Funding other groups perhaps that could end up replacing the

    Taliban could end up creating just a replica version of something as

    extreme.

    MR. FLEISCHER: Well, the United States is not going to get in the

    business of choosing who rules Afghanistan. But the United States will

    assist those who are seeking a peaceful and economically developed

    Afghanistan that does not engage in terrorism.

    Q: How will it do that, Ari?

    Q: Is there a long-term plan being looked at by the White House for

    consistent aid over a period of years? Or is it just being looked at

    in the short-term?

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    MR. FLEISCHER: Well, of course, it is always important to separate the

    people of Afghanistan, who simply want to live their lives, from the

    Taliban, which has repressed the people of Afghanistan, has now

    resorted to such measures as taking away the international food that

    has been provided to the people of Afghanistan. So there really is a

    difference between the regime that so-called represents the people ofAfghanistan and the desires of the people. And the United States is

    the world's largest donor of food to the people of Afghanistan, and

    the President remains committed even going forward to providing food

    to the people of Afghanistan.

    Q: One of the people that the administration has been talking to

    through our embassy in Rome and congressional delegation is the exiled

    King. He has said that he would be willing, and has indications that

    there would be willingness on the part of the Taliban, to enter into

    some kind of unity government which would include the Taliban. Would

    that be acceptable to the administration?

    MR. FLEISCHER: Again, as I said, the United States will not -- is notin the business of approving or creating a new government for

    Afghanistan. But the United States message to the Taliban could not be

    more clear.

    Q: If there is a coalition government centered around this exiled

    King, which would include the Taliban, as long as they're for a

    peaceful and economically engaged Afghanistan that doesn't support

    terrorism, that's fine with the administration?

    MR. FLEISCHER: Well, again, the United States is not going to choose

    who rules Afghanistan. But that's a hypothetical, and of course, I

    can't comment on anything that is a hypothetical.

    Q: It's a live more than --

    MR. FLEISCHER: Often, hypotheticals have some degree of being live.

    Q: Do you stand by your statement earlier today, that the purpose of

    the mission is to eliminate those who harbor terrorists so that they

    can't practice terrorism again against the U.S.? And can you clarify

    that?

    MR. FLEISCHER: The President made clear that the United States will

    treat those who continue to harbor terrorists the same as it treats

    terrorists. And the President has made it very clear that he is

    prepared to take action in a host of areas against those who engage in

    terrorism and against those who continue to harbor terrorists.

    Q: Well, we know now the Taliban has acknowledged that they know where

    bin Laden is. Would you call that harboring, and what does that mean

    to them?

    MR. FLEISCHER: We didn't need to hear that statement from the Taliban

    to know that they harbor terrorists.

    Q: Okay, so what's next?

    MR. FLEISCHER: I'm not going to tell you what's next, Helen.

    Major.

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    Q: You said that the United States government will assist those who

    seek to create a peaceful, economically-developed Afghanistan, free of

    terrorism. Secretary Rumsfeld said the same thing; Andrew Card said

    the same thing. How is the U.S. government going to go about doing

    that?

    MR. FLEISCHER: Through a variety of ways which can involve political,diplomatic, military, financial -- all of the above.

    Q: When you say military, political, diplomatic -- direct U.S.

    assistance to those who seek to overthrow the Taliban?

    MR. FLEISCHER: I'm not going to go beyond that statement, but that's a

    reiteration of something you've heard for a long time. And it should

    not come as any surprise that when the President says that we will

    treat those who continue to harbor terrorists the same as we treat

    terrorists, the President has said he's going to take action to

    protect our country from terrorist attacks. This should not be a

    subject of a lot of guessing.

    Q: According to an article in India Globe, the U.N. is -- conference

    on international terrorism going on right now at the United Nations.

    What role the U.S. is playing? And, number two, Indian Foreign

    Minister is in the building meeting somebody here. Whether, one, he's

    meeting with the President, and also, if there's any policy change

    towards India, between U.S. and India, what relation --

    MR. FLEISCHER: That meeting is with Dr. Rice. And if there are any

    other developments in the meeting or anybody else drops by, I'll try

    to give you a read if that happens. But that's a meeting with Dr.

    Rice.

    Q: Any change in the U.S. policy towards India?

    MR. FLEISCHER: There's nothing that I'm aware of. Again, if there's

    any readout on the meeting, we'll try to provide it. But it's with the

    National Security Advisor.

    Q: And the U.N. conference on terrorism going on, what role is the

    U.S. playing?

    MR. FLEISCHER: Let me check with the State Department to see exactly

    who may be up there. And I know State is briefing at 12:30 p.m., so

    that's a question you can address there, too.

    Q: Ari, you might have already answered this, but last week when you

    were asked about Bill Maher, you said, in the context of that answer,

    you said that Americans need to watch what they say and watch what

    they do. That line for some reason wasn't in the official White House

    transcript. Do you know why?

    MR. FLEISCHER: I think we addressed that last week, Ron. And the first

    I heard of it was when I came back from my trip to New York that day,

    that it wasn't there. And if you take a look at transcripts,

    unfortunately, every now and then there is a mistake in it. And that's

    what I think happened. It was a mistake.

    Q: Thank you.

    MR. FLEISCHER: Les.

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    Q: Ari, the New Yorker reports that only four months ago the U.S.

    government gave $40 million to the Taliban, and the Washington Times

    reports that since the Oslo Accords the U.S. has given $900 million to

    the PLO, which produces suicide bombers and thousands who cheered at

    the September 11th mass murder. And my question is, why does the

    President allow such federal government expenditures?

    MR. FLEISCHER: Well, the President -- if your question is about the

    Middle East, the President does believe it's very important to work

    with the various sides in the Middle East to help bring about peace.

    Q: Nine-hundred-million dollars?

    MR. FLEISCHER: I don't have the precise figure in front of me, Les. I

    can't indicate that that's an accurate number or not. But the

    President has said that it's important to work with the parties to

    help bring them together, to create peace in the Middle East.

    Q: Was the President made aware before he visited the mosque that

    three of the organizations that met with him -- the Council onAmerican Islamic Relations, the Muslim Public Affairs Council and the

    American Muslim Reliance -- have, reports the Weekly Standard,

    sponsored a speaker who announced that Jews are descended from apes,

    the Holocaust is denied, and a comparison of Palestinian suicide

    bombers to American Minutemen. Who arranged this mosque meeting, Ari,

    and why wasn't the President warned about that?

    MR. FLEISCHER: A similar question came up at Friday's briefing as

    well, about some statements that reportedly were made by some of the

    people the President met with. And my reaction then is the exact same

    as my reaction now. You should never assume that when the President

    meets with a group for important reasons of meeting with a group that

    he would ever agree with anything anybody in that group has said.

    There are often times that the President can meet with people and not

    share their opinions.

    Q: He knew about this, Ari, these people, and what they've said, and

    met with them?

    MR. FLEISCHER: As I indicated already, I'll say it again, when the

    President meets with groups, it's not an indication, of course, that

    he agrees with everything anybody may have said in that group.

    Q: What is the administration's understanding of the prospect of a

    humanitarian catastrophe inside Afghanistan this winter? What steps

    would we take beyond the food aid contributions that we've already

    made to try and prevent it? And would we, given the Taliban has now

    seized international food contributions, would that be a reason for

    military action against the Taliban?

    MR. FLEISCHER: Wendell, given the fact that the United States is the

    world's largest donor of food aid to the people of Afghanistan, the

    United States and President Bush are very concerned about the actions

    the Taliban regime has taken to seize the food of the people who need

    the food the most, and that's the people of Afghanistan.

    It is a concern, particularly as winter approaches, and the President

    remains very concerned about it. And as I indicated going forward,

    that will remain an objective of the President, is to do everything

    possible to help the people of Afghanistan. They should not be

    punished because of the actions of the regime that represses them.

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    Q: And our assessment of the threat they face? Our assessment of the

    threat they face?

    MR. FLEISCHER: It's a serious humanitarian problem, given the fact

    that the Taliban regime continues to repress the people of

    Afghanistan, as evidenced by the fact that they're seizing the food ofthe people of Afghanistan.

    Q: Despite a series of short-term -- of cuts in the short-term federal

    funds rate, long-term rates have remained quite high, and more

    short-term cuts are probably in the offing. My question is, how

    concerned is the administration, and -- policy makers with that twist

    between low short-term rates and high long rates? And how do you

    propose to address the problem?

    MR. FLEISCHER: Well, again, that's often one of those issues where

    economists differ about the meaning of it. So there are some people

    who say that's a sign of anticipated strength in the economy, which is

    why long-term rates don't come down even further, and others who saythat the spread between short-term and long-term is a policy issue.

    So that's one of the many factors that are being addressed as the

    President talks to Congress about a possible economic package.

    Q: Ari, I just wanted to follow on that. Is there disagreement within

    the administration on the proposition that long rates are a deterrent

    to investment and to growth?

    MR. FLEISCHER: No, there's none that I've heard. It's just one of

    scores of pieces of economic data that's often analyzed.

    Q: Just to follow up on Wendell's question, where do you stand now on

    this thought about having direct food drops in Afghanistan by the Air

    Force or by other military forces?

    MR. FLEISCHER: And anything dealing with operational elements I'm just

    not going do discuss, even on the humanitarian nature like that when

    you talk about the military drop in food.

    Thank you, everybody.

    THE PRESS: Thank you.

    END 12:34 P.M. EDT

    (end transcript)

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