13b Sophist
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Plato, Sophist 264b-268c PHL 187 Fall 2015 Dr. Hennig “Everything is a copy of a copy of a copy.” Fight Club (1999) This, then, is how [the world] has come to be: it is a work of craft, modeled after that which is changeless and is grasped by a rational account, that is, by wisdom. Timaeus 29, tr. Zeyl Of course you can say that the things [a painter] creates are not real. Yet there is a sense in which the painter does create a couch, isn’t there? … What about the carpenter who makes a couch? Didn’t you just say he creates a particular couch, but not the form or character which we say is what a couch is? … This one, I imagine we’d say, was the work of a god. Republic X 597a-b, tr. Griffith 2 4. God, Carpenter, Painter Timaeus: The creator makes copies of forms. Republic: God makes the form of the bed, the carpenter makes the bed. Sophist: God makes originals and images (reflections in water, for instance). Likewise, people make things and copies of things. 3 Originals and Copies expertise productive acquisitive divine human originals copies originals copies likenesses appearances with tools imitation with knowledge mere opinion sincere insincere in public in private The Sophist (7)
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Plato, Sophist 264b-268c
PHL 187 Fall 2015
Dr. Hennig
“Everything is a copy of a copy of a copy.” Fight Club (1999)
This, then, is how [the world] has come to be: it is a work of craft, modeled after that which is changeless and is grasped by a rational account, that is, by wisdom.
Timaeus 29, tr. Zeyl
Of course you can say that the things [a painter] creates are not real. Yet there is a sense in which the painter does create a couch, isn’t there? …What about the carpenter who makes a couch? Didn’t you just say he creates a particular couch, but not the form or character which we say is what a couch is? …This one, I imagine we’d say, was the work of a god.
Republic X 597a-b, tr. Griffith
24. God, Carpenter, Painter
Timaeus: The creator makes copies of forms.
Republic: God makes the form of the bed, the carpenter makes the bed.
Sophist: God makes originals and images (reflections in water, for instance). Likewise, people make things and copies of things.
3Originals and Copiesexpertise
productive acquisitive
divine human
originals copies originals copieslikenesses appearances
with tools imitation
with knowledge mere opinion
sincere insincere
in public in private
The Sophist (7)
