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The Development of Large-The Development of Large-Area Thin Planar Psec Area Thin Planar Psec
PhotodetectorsPhotodetectorsHenry Frisch, Henry Frisch, Enrico Fermi Institute and ANL Enrico Fermi Institute and ANL
IEEE Workshop
04/18/23 2
1. Large-Area Low-Cost Photodetectors with good correlated time and space resolution (target 10 $/sq-in incremental areal cost)
2. Large-Area TOF particle/photon detectors with psec time resolution ( < 1psec at 100 p.e.)
3. Understanding photocathodes so that we can reliably make high QE, tailor the spectral response, and develop new materials and geometries (QE > 50%?, public formula)
IEEE Workshop
Three Goals of a New (1 Three Goals of a New (1 yr-old) Collaborative yr-old) Collaborative
Effort:Effort:
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MCP development- use modern fabrication processes MCP development- use modern fabrication processes to control emissivities, resistivities, out-gassingto control emissivities, resistivities, out-gassing
Use Atomic Layer Deposition for emissive materialUse Atomic Layer Deposition for emissive material (amplification) on cheap inert substrates (glass capillary (amplification) on cheap inert substrates (glass capillary
arrays, AAO). Scalable to large sizes; economical; pure – i.e. arrays, AAO). Scalable to large sizes; economical; pure – i.e. chemically robust and (it seems- see below) chemically robust and (it seems- see below) stablestable
Readout: Use transmission lines and modern chip Readout: Use transmission lines and modern chip technologies for high speed cheap low-power high-technologies for high speed cheap low-power high-density readout.density readout.
Anode is a 50-ohm stripline. Scalable up to many feet in Anode is a 50-ohm stripline. Scalable up to many feet in length ; readout 2 ends; CMOS sampling onto capacitors- length ; readout 2 ends; CMOS sampling onto capacitors- fast, cheap, low-power (New idea- make MCP-PMT tiles on fast, cheap, low-power (New idea- make MCP-PMT tiles on single PC-card readout- see below)single PC-card readout- see below)
Use computational advances -simulation as basis for Use computational advances -simulation as basis for designdesign
Modern computing tools allow simulation at level of basic Modern computing tools allow simulation at level of basic processes- validate with data. Use for `rational design’ processes- validate with data. Use for `rational design’ (Klaus Attenkofer’s phrase).(Klaus Attenkofer’s phrase).
Detector Development- 3 Detector Development- 3 ProngsProngs
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Atomic Layer Deposition Atomic Layer Deposition (ALD) Thin Film Coating (ALD) Thin Film Coating
TechnologyTechnology
Atomic level thickness controlDeposit nearly any materialPrecise coatings on 3-D objects (JE)
Jeff Elam pictures
•Lots of possible materials => much room for higher performance
04/18/23 5IEEE Workshop
High (multi-GHz) ABW High (multi-GHz) ABW readoutreadout
New Idea (Herve’ Grabas)-Put bottom New Idea (Herve’ Grabas)-Put bottom traced on PC-card (not on the glass).traced on PC-card (not on the glass).
Note signal is differential between ground (inside, top), and PC traces (outside)
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•Large Area Photodetector Development Collaboration
Simulation (crosses all groups)Simulation (crosses all groups)Valentin Ivanov, Zeke Insepov, Zeke Yusof, Sergey Valentin Ivanov, Zeke Insepov, Zeke Yusof, Sergey
AntipovAntipov
•6
•10μm pore
•40μm spacing
•Funnel (!)
04/18/23 7IEEE Workshop
UCB Concept ‘B’ 8” UCB Concept ‘B’ 8” Tube DesignTube Design
•3 Mar 2010 •7
•Jason McPhate•Experimental Astrophysics Group
•Space Sciences Laboratory •University of California, Berkeley
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The 24”x16” The 24”x16” `SuperModule`SuperModule
Sealed Tube (Tile) Sealed Tube (Tile) ConstructionConstruction
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•All (cheap) glass•Anode is silk-screened•No pins, penetrations•No internal connections•Anode determines locations (i.e. no mech tolerancing for position resolution)•Fastens with double-sticky to readout Tray: so can tile different length strings, areas•Tile Factory in works (ANL)
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Fabricated per unit cost estimates
30 1000 3000 10,000 100,000
Window (1@) $18 13 11 10 8
Side wall (1@) $78 55 52 48 40
Base plate (1@) $20 13 11 10 8
Rod Spacers (75@) $7 3 2 1.20 .80
Total $641 $306 $224 $158 $116
The above prices are for water jet cut B33 glass, tol. +- 0.010, except rod spacers +000 -0.004
---------Quotations--------- -----------------------Cost estimates----------------------
8” Glass Package Component Costs
To this add 2 8” plates (@250?), ALD (Bulk), PC, assembly
Rich Northrop
PSEC-2 ASICPSEC-2 ASIC
04/18/23 11IEEE Workshop
•130nm IBM 8RF Process•This chip 4 channels, 256 deep analog ring buffer•Sampling tested at 11 GS/sec•Each channel has its own ADC- 9 bits eff (?)•The ADCs on this chip didn’t work due to leakage (silly, didn’t simulate slow easy things) - resubmitted, and test card out for fab with external ADC - will use 1 of 4 chnls•We’re learning from Breton, Delagnes, Ritt and Varner (Gary is of course a collaborator)
Chicago- Hawaii
04/18/23 12IEEE Workshop
ANL-UC Glass Hermetic Packaging ANL-UC Glass Hermetic Packaging GroupGroup Proceed in 3 steps: 1) hermetic box; Proceed in 3 steps: 1) hermetic box;
2) Add MCP’s, readout, (Au cathode); 2) Add MCP’s, readout, (Au cathode); 3) Add photocathode3) Add photocathode
BoxBox
Box+ 8” MCPsBox+ 8” MCPs
Box+MCP+PCBox+MCP+PC
Yr 1 Yr 2 Yr 3
Possible Au anode
At colliders we measure the 3-momenta of At colliders we measure the 3-momenta of hadrons, but can’t follow the flavor-flow of hadrons, but can’t follow the flavor-flow of quarks,quarks, the primarythe primary objectsobjects that are colliding. 2-orders-of- that are colliding. 2-orders-of-magnitude in time resolution would all us to magnitude in time resolution would all us to measure measure ALLALL the information=>greatly enhanced the information=>greatly enhanced discovery potential.discovery potential.
Application to Application to CollidersColliders
t-tbar -> W+bW-
bbar-> e+ nu+c+sbar+b+bbar
Specs:Signal: 50-10,000 photonsSpace resolution: 1 mmTime resolution 1 psecCost: <100K$/m2:
A real top candidate event from CDF- has top, antitop, each decaying into a W-boson and a b or antib. Goal- identify the quarks that make the jets. (explain why…)
New Idea (?)-New Idea (?)-Differential TOFDifferential TOF
Rather than use the Start time of the collision, measure the difference in arrival times at the beta=c particles (photons, electrons and identified muons) and the hadrons, which arrive a few psec later.
04/18/23 15IEEE Workshop
Application 2- Neutrino Application 2- Neutrino PhysicsPhysics
Spec: signal single photon, 100 ps time, 1 cm Spec: signal single photon, 100 ps time, 1 cm space, low cost/m2 (5-10K$/m2)*space, low cost/m2 (5-10K$/m2)*
(Howard Nicholson)
New Idea:Hi-res HNew Idea:Hi-res H22O O Spatial Res of <1cm plus >50% Spatial Res of <1cm plus >50%
coverage would allow working close coverage would allow working close to the walls => greater Fid/Tot ratio;to the walls => greater Fid/Tot ratio;
Also would make curve of Fid/Tot Also would make curve of Fid/Tot flatter wrt to symmetry- could make flatter wrt to symmetry- could make a high, long, narrow (book-on-end) a high, long, narrow (book-on-end) detector at smaller loss of F/T;detector at smaller loss of F/T;
Cavern height cheaper than width; Cavern height cheaper than width; robust tubes can stand more robust tubes can stand more pressurepressure
Narrow may allow magnetic field (!)Narrow may allow magnetic field (!)
04/18/23 16IEEE Workshop
New idea: Hi-Res HNew idea: Hi-Res H220-0-continuedcontinued
100 psec time resolution is 3cm space 100 psec time resolution is 3cm space resolution ALONG photon direction;resolution ALONG photon direction;
Transverse resolution on each photon Transverse resolution on each photon should be sub-cm;should be sub-cm;
Question- can one reconstruct tracks?Question- can one reconstruct tracks? Question- can one reconstruct Question- can one reconstruct
vertices?vertices? Question- can one distinguish a pizero Question- can one distinguish a pizero
from an electron and 2 vertices from from an electron and 2 vertices from one? (4 tracks vs 1 too)one? (4 tracks vs 1 too)
04/18/23 17IEEE Workshop
Question: Can we reconstruct the first 3 Question: Can we reconstruct the first 3 radiation lengths of an event with radiation lengths of an event with resolution ~1/10 of a radiation length?resolution ~1/10 of a radiation length?
Handles on pizero-electron separation: 2 vs Handles on pizero-electron separation: 2 vs 1 vertices; no track vs 1 track between 1 vertices; no track vs 1 track between primary vertex and first photon conversion; primary vertex and first photon conversion; 2 tracks (twice the photons) from the 2 2 tracks (twice the photons) from the 2 conversion vertices; conversion vertices;
Know photon angle, lots of photons-fit to Know photon angle, lots of photons-fit to counter dispersion, scattering;counter dispersion, scattering;
Book-on-end aspect ratio helps against Book-on-end aspect ratio helps against dispersion, scattering-have to look at whole dispersion, scattering-have to look at whole picture.picture.
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New idea: Hi-Res H20-continued
•Can localize source along line of flight.
•Time of flight information reduces noise in images.
•Variance reduction given by 2D/ct.
•500 ps timing resolution 5x reduction in variance!
•c = 30 cm/ns•500 ps timing resolution
7.5 cm localization
•Time of Flight Provides a Huge Performance Increase!•Largest Improvement in Large Patients
•Time of Flight Provides a Huge Performance Increase!•Largest Improvement in Large Patients
•D
Application 3- Medical Imaging (PET) •Bill Moses Slide
(Lyon)
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Application 3- Medical Application 3- Medical Imaging (PET)Imaging (PET)
Depth in crystal by Depth in crystal by time-differencetime-difference
Heejong Kim Heejong
Kim
Can we solve Can we solve the depth-of-the depth-of-interaction interaction problem and problem and also use also use cheaper faster cheaper faster radiators?radiators?
AlternatinAlternating radiator g radiator and cheap and cheap 30-50 psec 30-50 psec planar planar mcp-pmt’s mcp-pmt’s on each on each sideside
Depth in crystal by Depth in crystal by energy- energy- asymmetryasymmetry
Simulations by Simulations by Heejong Kim Heejong Kim (Chicago)(Chicago)
04/18/23 21IEEE Workshop
A radical idea driven by A radical idea driven by sampling calorimeters sampling calorimeters
based om thin cheap fast based om thin cheap fast photodetectors with photodetectors with
correlated time and space correlated time and space waveform samplingwaveform sampling
Give up on the 511 KeV energy cut for bkgd Give up on the 511 KeV energy cut for bkgd rejection (!?), Give up on the Compton fraction rejection (!?), Give up on the Compton fraction (!??), and instead use cheaper faster lower-density (!??), and instead use cheaper faster lower-density scintillator, adaptive algorithms, and large-area to scintillator, adaptive algorithms, and large-area to beat down background.beat down background. Question for wkshp- candidate scintillators (Ren-Question for wkshp- candidate scintillators (Ren-yuan suggests BaF2- even lower density yuan suggests BaF2- even lower density candidates?) candidates?)
Alternating radiator Alternating radiator and cheap 30-50 and cheap 30-50 psec thin planar psec thin planar mcp-pmt’s on each mcp-pmt’s on each sideside
0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1
BGOLuAPLSO
LuYAPGSO
LuI3
BaF2
LaBr3RGB
NaI
LaCl3
Relative EfficiencyS
cin
tilla
tor
Bill Moses (Lyon)
•Both Photons Deposit >350 keV
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Medical Imaging (PET)-Medical Imaging (PET)-cont.cont.
However- truth in advertising- there is a long way to go (see Bill Moses’s talk at Clermont.) It looks promising, as it may be possible to produce large panels with better spatial and time resolution than possible with photomultipliers, and our initial estimates are that MCP-PMT’s may be as much as a factor of 10 cheaper. However, the development will take a collaborative effort on measurements and simulation (see papers by Heejong Kim et al on web and in this conference). Talks are also underway among Clermont, Strasbourg, Lyon, and Chicago.
Spec: signal 10,000 photons,30 ps Spec: signal 10,000 photons,30 ps time resolution , 1 mm space time resolution , 1 mm space resolution, 30K$/m2, and resolution, 30K$/m2, and commercializable for clinical use.commercializable for clinical use.
SUMMARY
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Application 4- Cherenkov-sensitive Application 4- Cherenkov-sensitive Sampling Quasi- Digital Sampling Quasi- Digital
CalorimetersCalorimeters
A picture of an em shower in a A picture of an em shower in a cloud-chamber with ½” Pb plates cloud-chamber with ½” Pb plates (Rossi, p215- from CY Chao)(Rossi, p215- from CY Chao)
A `cartoon’ of a fixed target geometry A `cartoon’ of a fixed target geometry such as for JPARC’s KL-> pizero such as for JPARC’s KL-> pizero nunubar (at UC, Yao Wah) or LHCbnunubar (at UC, Yao Wah) or LHCb
•IIdea: planes on one side read both Cherenkov and scintillation light- on other only scintillation.
04/18/23 24IEEE Workshop
Can one build a `Quasi-digital’ Can one build a `Quasi-digital’ MCP-based Calorimeter?MCP-based Calorimeter?
Electron pattern (not a picture of the plate!)- SSL test, Electron pattern (not a picture of the plate!)- SSL test, Incom substrate, Arradiance ALD. Note you can see the Incom substrate, Arradiance ALD. Note you can see the multi’s in both plates => ~50 micron resolution multi’s in both plates => ~50 micron resolution
Note- at high gain the boundaries of the multi’s go away
Idea: can one saturate pores in the the MCP plate Idea: can one saturate pores in the the MCP plate s.t.output is proportional to number of pores. s.t.output is proportional to number of pores. Transmission line readout gives a cheap way to Transmission line readout gives a cheap way to sample the whole lane with pulse height and sample the whole lane with pulse height and time- get energy flow. time- get energy flow.
Oswald Siegmund, Jason McPhate, Sharon Jelinsky, SSL (UCB)
More Information:More Information:
04/18/23 25IEEE Workshop
• Main Page: http://psec.uchicago.edu
• Library: Image Library, Document Library, Year-1 Summary Report, Links to MCP, Photocathode, Materials Literature, etc.;
• Blog: Our log-book- open to all (say yes to certificate Cerberus, etc.)- can keep track of us (at least several companies do);
• Wish us well- goal is in 3 years (2 from now) to have commercializable modules- too late for the 1st round of LBNE, but maybe not too late for a 2nd or 3rd-generation detector.
04/18/23 26IEEE Workshop
The End-The End-
BackupBackup
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The Large-Area Psec Photo-detector The Large-Area Psec Photo-detector CollaborationCollaboration
3 National Labs, 6 Divisions at Argonne, 3 US small companies; electronics expertise at UC Berkely, and the Universities of Chicago and HawaiiGoal of 3-year R&D- commercializable modules.
DOE Funded (a little NSF)
IEEE Workshop
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4 Groups4 Groups + + Integration and Management Integration and Management
04/18/23 30IEEE Workshop
Parallel Efforts on Specific Parallel Efforts on Specific ApplicationsApplications
..
LAPD Detector Development
PET(UC/BSD,
UCB, Lyon)
Collider(UC,
ANL,Saclay.
Mass Spec
Security
(TBD)
Drawing Not To Scale (!)
ANL,Arradiance,Chicago,Fermilab, Hawaii,Muons,Inc,SLAC,SSL/UCB, Synkera, U. Wash.
Explicit strategy for staying on task
All these need work- naturally tend to lag the reality of the detector development
DUSEL
(Matt, Mayly, Bob,
John, ..)
Muon Cooli
ngMuons,Inc
(SBIR)
K->(UC(?))
04/18/23 31IEEE Workshop
Put it all together- the Put it all together- the `Frugal’ MCP`Frugal’ MCP
Put all Put all ingredients ingredients together- flat together- flat glass case glass case (think TV’s), (think TV’s), capillary/ALD capillary/ALD amplification, amplification, transmission transmission line anodes, line anodes, waveform waveform samplingsampling
Glass is cheap, Glass is cheap, and they make and they make vacuum tubes vacuum tubes out of it- why out of it- why not MCP’s?not MCP’s?
04/18/23 32IEEE Workshop
GodParent Review PanelsGodParent Review Panels•Packaging Group
•MCP Group •Photocathode Group
•Electronics Group
•Karen Byrum•K.Arisaka•J. Elam•D. Ferenc•J.F. Genat•P. Hink•A. Ronzhin
• Bob Wagner
• K.Attenkofer
A. Bross• Z. InsepovA. Tremsin• J. Va’vra
• A. Zinovev
• Gary Varner• J. Buckley• K. Harkay• V. Ivanov
A. Lyashenko• T. Prolier
• M. Wetstein
• Zikri Yusof• B. Adams
• M. Demarteau
• G. Drake• T. Liu
• I. Veryovkin
• S. Ross
04/18/23 33IEEE Workshop
Advanced Photocathode Advanced Photocathode GroupGroup
III-V have the potential for high III-V have the potential for high QE, shifting toward the blue, and QE, shifting toward the blue, and robustness i.e. they age well, robustness i.e. they age well, high-temp)high-temp)
Opaque PC’s have much higher Opaque PC’s have much higher QE than transmission PC’s- we QE than transmission PC’s- we have the geometryhave the geometry
Many small factors to be gained Many small factors to be gained in absorption, anti-reflection- in absorption, anti-reflection- see papers by Townsend and see papers by Townsend and talk by Fontaine on our web sitetalk by Fontaine on our web site
Quantum Effic. Of 60% have Quantum Effic. Of 60% have been achieved in bialkalisbeen achieved in bialkalis
Moving to understanding the physics
Big payoff if we can get >50% QE robust Photocathodes, and/or more robust (assembly). Also want
to get away from `cooking recipes’ to rational design.
Klaus Attenkofer, Sasha Paramonov, Zikri Yusof, Junqi Xi, Seon Wu Lee, UIUC, WashU, ….
Some Neutrino-specific Some Neutrino-specific ThoughtsThoughts
04/18/23 34IEEE Workshop
NEXT STEPS? (needs discussion…)