11-18-08 Thomsen Bamris _ Val Runge Excerpted
Transcript of 11-18-08 Thomsen Bamris _ Val Runge Excerpted
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Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
^plb|n im MUH
Cnm{dj U- \cigunm
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
Hbe~`|t ih Cnb`|c Uednmenu
^mdxn{ud|t ih Eipnmcbfnm
LNMGB[J
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Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
MUH
B ci{{dk`n blxn{un {nbe|dim
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Cbxn ti~ gn| b pb|dnm| vd|c MUH9
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
B xn{t ci| |ipde
Mnpc{ifnmde Utu|ngde Hdk{iudu #MUH$,
p{nxdi~u`t eb``nl Mnpc{ifnmde Hdk{iudmfLn{gipb|ct, vbu lnue{dknl dm 2446,k~| vbu im`t `dmjnl |i nspiu~{n |ifbli`dmd~g kbunl eim|{bu| gnldb dm
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Ldhhde~`| Ldbfmiudu
Cdu|i{tE`dmdeb` dmupne|dim ih |cn ujdm
Cdu|i`ift
#Fl dm |cn |duu~n$
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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D| du mi| bm nd|cn{ i{ ldunbun
Unxn{n ebunu #f{bln 5
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E~{{nm| ud|~b|dim dm N~{ipn
NGNB ~unu 5 e`buunu HLB 2 e`buu-
Cdfc {duj
Ip|dgb{j, Igmduebm, Gbfmnxdu|
Giln{b|n {duj
_{dgixdu|, Xbuixdu|, G~`|dcbmen
@iv {duj Li|b{ng, Fblixdu|, _{icbmen
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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[duj gbmbfngnm|
\cn gbfmd|~ln ih |cn p{ik`ng du ~me`nb{
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
Gbmt {nfdu|{dnu
Tb`n ~mdxn{ud|t #MUH {nfdu|{t$Gnlvb|ec #HLB$
Gnldedmnu Bfnmednu dm N~{ipn
\cn Xnmli{u
NU^[
BE[ Eim|{bu| Gnldb Eiggd||nn
\cn p~k`ducnl `d|n{b|~{n
[nu~`|u dm eimh~udim bml ~men{|bdm|t
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MUH p~k`deb|dimu ) _~kgnl
;??31 2? gim|cu
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Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
Ebunu
Dm |cn pnn{'{nxdnvnl `d|n{b|~{n #kdiput p{ixnm$
24?Bu ih Hnk{~b{t 2u| ;??3K
{iign
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Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
Ebunu
Kdiput'p{ixnm ebunu dm |cn pnn{'{nxdnvnl`d|n{b|~{n
Fblildbgdln 2>6 #35.$
Fblipnm|n|b|n ldgnf`~gdmn 3
Fblixn{|dubgdln 5
^mupnedhdnl 23
Eimhi~mlnl ebunu
H{bmen 2 ebun
Upbdm ' 4 ebunu
\cn Mn|cn{`bmlu 2 ebun
Kn`fd~g 5 ebunu
^md|nl Jdmflig 2< ebunu
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
8? ebunu '''>3. ih |cn2?8 {npi{|nlebunu9
N~{ipnbm nspn{dnmen
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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N~{ipnbm hbe|
Vn cbxn b {npi{|dmf p{ik`ng dmN~{ipn-
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
Lnpb{|ngnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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I|cn{ hdf~{nu
HLB }8?? ebunuDm|n{mb|dimb` enm|n{ }5??
@bvtn{u }>?? ebunu
Lnpb{|ngnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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Uign ciupd|b`u b{n miv {npi{|dmf |cb| |cnt cbxn{nxdnvnl |cnd{ mnpc{i`ift pb|dnm|u-
Hi{ nsbgp`n
^mdxn{ud|t ih Kbun` cbu pn{hi{gnl };6,???nmcbmenl G[D nsbgdmb|dimu h{ig ;??; |c{i~fc
;??6-^mdxn{ud|t ih _b{du {nxdnvnl |cnd{ 5?3 mnpc{i`ift
pb|dnm|u #65 . cbl EJL < i{ >$-
Eiggim hi{ |cnun dmu|d|~|dimu |cnt cbxn mi|~unl mim'dimde `dmnb{ ecn`b|nu-
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
N~{ipnbm nspn{dnmen
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
Mi|den
Giu| u|~ldnu b{n ln{dxn h{ig unb{ec imlb|bkbunu n-f-
Ldb`tudu {nfdu|{dnu
Ln{gb|ipb|ci`ift hd`nu
[cn~gb|i`ift hd`nuLn{gb|i`ift hd`nu
[bldi`ift Dmhi{gb|dim Utu|ngu
^mln{nu|dgb|n dm gbmt dmu|bmenu
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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_{nxb`nmen dm e`dmdeb``t dmupne|nlEJL > pb|dnm|u
Ixn{b``
B`` lnf{nnu #?'
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E~g~`b|dxn {duj liun
Du uign|cdmf `nh| ixn{9
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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E~g~`b|dxn {duj liun
Dm kdipudnu #unxn{b` pb|dnm|u cbl gi{n|cbm imn kdiput$ bm dme{nbudmf bgi~m|ih fbli`dmd~g cbu knnm ucivm dm |cnujdm ~p |i |c{nn tnb{u bh|n{ |cn `bu|nspiu~{n |i Fl'EB-
Vcn{n linu d| eign h{ig9
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Bk{b
cbg
n|bK{d
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E~g~`b|dxn {duj liun
\cn{n b{n {npi{|u |cb| MUH gbt lnxn`ipunxn{b` gim|cu bml tnb{u bh|n{blgdmdu|{b|dim ih Fl'EB-
Du uign|cdmf ' hi{ nsbgp`n Fl5*
`nh| dm |cnkilt9 D| ebm| kn nse`~lnl-
p f
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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E~g~`b|dxn {duj liun
Fl bee~g~`b|nu dm kimnu ih c~gbmu vd|cmi{gb` {nmb` h~me|dim-
}< |dgnu gi{n bh|n{ mim'dimde `dmnb{ecn`b|nu |cbm mim'dimde ete`de ecn`b|nu
p f
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cd|nn
|b
`-Dmxn
u|[b
ldi;??8
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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Fl bee~g~`b|nu dm ujdm bml kimn ih{ilnm|u vd|c mi{gb` {nmb` h~me|dim-
\cn bgi~m| ih bee~g~`b|nl Fl xb{dnukn|vnnm |cn xb{di~u bfnm|u-
p f
U
dnkn{|n
|b
Dmxnu
|[b
ldi;??6
(AG[D;??3
E~g~`b|dxn {duj liun
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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D| du vn`` jmivm |cb| cnbxt gn|b`ubee~g~`b|n dm |cn kimn dm gbm-
E~g~`b|dxn {duj liun
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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Vd`` vn hben b gbai{ cnb`|c p{ik`ng dm |cnh~|~{n9
D| ebm| kn nse`~lnl kbunl im |cn e~{{nm|
jmiv`nlfn-
[NUNB[EC DU ^[FNM\@T MNNLNL"""
E~g~`b|dxn {duj liun
Lnpb{|ngnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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Cdfc {duj pb|dnm|u ei~`l kn
_b|dnm|u vci lnxn`ip nml'u|bfn {nmb`hbd`~{n `b|n{
' pb|dnm|u vd|c ldbkn|nu cbxn b >?. ecbmen
Tnb{`t nmcbmenl G[
' vignm vd|c K[BEB'fnmnu
Lnpb{|ngnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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_b|cipctudi`ift ih MUH
Eim|nm|di~u u~kane|
Linu d| gb||n{9
Du d| mi| |cn e`dmdeb` hbe|u |cb| gb||n{9
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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Dmane|dimu dmmnpc{i`iftpb|dnm|u
Cdfc {dujbfnm| @iv {dujbfnm|
MUH
5? ?
Mi MUH 5
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Dmane|dimu dmdmh`bggb|i{tmnpc{i`iftpb|dnm|u
Cdfc {dujbfnm| Dm|n{gnldb|n{duj bfnm|
MUH
8 ?
Mi MUH 2;> 2?2
Ikun{xb|dim pn{dil1 = 5 gim|cu^m
dxVdueimu
dmCignpbfn
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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_iuudk`n ei'hbe|i{u
N{t|c{ipidn|dm
Dmh`bggb|dim
Dmcdkd|i{u ih bmfdi|nmudm eimxn{|dmf nmqtgn
Dml~enl bm|dkildnu bfbdmu| pciupci`dpdlu
Ldb`tqb|n h`~dl
Cnpb|i{nmb` {nmb` utml{ign
[nenm| u~{fn{t\c{igki|de nxnm|u
Gn|bki`de bedliudu
B`` |cn p{ipiunl ei'hbe|i{u ebmmi| kn eimhd{gnl |ikn mnenuub{t ei'hbe|i{u- \cn{n b{n p{ikbk`tgbmt ei'hbe|i{u vcdec |ifn|cn{ vd|c |cnfbli`dmd~g'kbunl eim|{bu| bfnm| ebm |{dffn{MUH-
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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DM N^[I_N
Fblildbgdln * Gbfmnxdu| * Ip|dgb{j
EIM\[BDMLDEB\NL dm pb|dnm|u vd|c EJL < bml > #FH[ 0 5? g`)gdm$,
dme`~ldmf |ciun im ldb`tudu
pb|dnm|u vd|c {nl~enl {nmb` h~me|dim vci cbxn cbli{ b{n bvbd|dmf `dxn{ |{bmup`bm|b|dim
^UN VD\C EB^\DIM dm pb|dnm|u vd|c EJL 5 #FH[ 5?'8? g`)gdm$
ecd`l{nm `nuu |cbm 2 tnb{ i`l
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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DM N^[I_N
B`` pb|dnm|u uci~`l kn ue{nnmnl, dmpb{|de~`b{ pb|dnm|u ixn{ |cn bfn ih 8>,
hi{ {nmb` ltuh~me|dim kt ik|bdmdmf bcdu|i{t bml)i{ `bki{b|i{t |nu|u-
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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Ikun{xb|dim
\cn {duj ih dml~edmf MUH g~u| b`vbtu kn
vndfcnl bfbdmu| |cn {duj ih lnmtdmf pb|dnm|ufbli`dmd~g nmcbmenl uebmu vcdec b{ndgpi{|bm| hi{ pb|dnm| gbmbfngnm|-
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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Vn lim| cbxn bm bpp{ip{db|n ixn{xdnv ih |cnp{ik`ng, dme`~ldmf pb|cipctudi`ift-
NGNB cbu eciunm b ldhhn{nm| bpp{ibec |cbm HLB1MUH du mi| b e`buu pcnmignmim-
Vn ebm| hi{ |cn |dgn kndmf nse`~ln |cb| MUH duim`t ih |cn |dp ih |cn fbli`dmd~g |isded|t denkn{f-
D| unngu `djn |cb| vn dm|{il~enl MUH bml |cb| vn
ebm n{bun d| bfbdm-
^un dm b`` pb|dnm|u bm bfnm| |cb| `nbxnu |cnugb``nu| bgi~m| ih fbli`dmd~g-
Eime`~udim
Lnpb{|gnm| ih Ldbfmiu|de Uednmenu
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