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1Sasha Milov HBD internal... July 10, 2007

New divider floating vs. New divider floating vs. groundedgrounded

Sasha Milov

July 10, 2007

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2Sasha Milov HBD internal... July 10, 2007

New dividerNew divider

Some other changes:

a) GEMS are not shown because they are made of 28 R/C and are huge.

b) No change in the results compare to the old scheme found

c) In the scheme on the left PS shorts to zero at a trip time. I used 1ms fall time and 1Meg residual resistance on the PS Rout.

d) Changing Rout to zero does not really change much, anyways.

R10

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PULSE({VG} 0 .1 0.001 0 10 100)Rser=1e6

GEM_PS

Rser=1e6

MESH_PS

PULSE({VM} 0 0.1 0.001 0 10 100)

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{C8}

R18

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Cable_CG

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Cable_LG

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Cable_RG

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Cable_CM

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Cable_RM

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.param R1 = 20e6

.param R2 = 10e6

.param R3 = 40e6

.param R4 = 2e6

.param R5 = 20e6

.param R6 = 40e6

.tran 0 3 0 .001

.param C2 = 0.335e-9

.param C4 = 0.8e-9

.param C5 = 35.e-9

.param C8 = 1.25e-9

.param C9 = 0.013e-9

.model SWO SW(Ron=1e-3 Roff=1e11 Vt=0.5)

.model SWC SW(Ron=1e11 Roff=1e-3 Vt=0.5)

.param L0 = 2e-6

.param VG = -350

.param VM = -360

.param R9 = 1Bot

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Float vs GroundFloat vs Ground

0.0s 0.3s 0.6s 0.9s 1.2s 1.5s 1.8s 2.1s 2.4s 2.7s 3.0s-50V-40V-30V-20V-10V0V

10V20V30V40V50V60V70V80V90V

100V

4V8V

12V16V20V24V28V32V36V40V44V48V52V

-24V

-18V

-12V

-6V

0V

6V

12V

18V

24V

30V

36V

42V

V(N001,N007) V(N005,N015) V(N006,N002)

V(N002,N001) V(N007,N005) V(N015,N012)

V(N017,N012)

topGEM-mesh

across GEMs

across transfer gaps

float ground

0.0s 0.3s 0.6s 0.9s 1.2s 1.5s 1.8s 2.1s 2.4s 2.7s 3.0s-100V

-80V

-60V

-40V

-20V

0V

20V

40V

60V

80V

100V

0V

5V

10V

15V

20V

25V

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-10V

-8V

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-4V

-2V

0V

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6V

8V

10V

12V

V(N094,N011) V(N012,N009) V(N010,N007)

V(N011,N012) V(N009,N010) V(N007,N008)

V(N014,N008)

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Float vs GroundFloat vs GroundGround scheme has advantages:

a)transients dV are smaller (even with Rout = 0 they are so)b)GEM discharges fasterc)Transfer gaps flip sign “momentarily” so to prevent any affect on lower GEM.

Here is my understanding of Floating vs. Grounded PS:In case of a trip one would like to drain energy form the divider. Regardless of the PS, the scheme must have such drainage system with matching R/C’s. We learned it a hard way. Floating PS leaves transient process fully at hands of that drainage system. Grounded PS provides one more sewer, which if all R/C match properly gives another factor in speed, thus safety.

Bob and me measured BERTAN yesterday found it floating with Rout = 150M (guess at Fluke’s limit…)

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0.0s 0.3s 0.6s 0.9s 1.2s 1.5s 1.8s 2.1s 2.4s 2.7s 3.0s-40V-30V-20V-10V0V

10V20V30V40V50V60V70V80V90V

100V

4V8V

12V16V20V

24V28V32V

36V40V44V

48V52V

-28V

-24V

-20V

-16V

-12V

-8V

-4V

0V

4V

8V

12V

16V

V(N001,N003) V(N002,N008) V(N007,N016)

V(N016,N014) V(N008,N007) V(N003,N002)

V(N020,N014)

New vs Old dividersNew vs Old dividers

0.0s 0.3s 0.6s 0.9s 1.2s 1.5s 1.8s 2.1s 2.4s 2.7s 3.0s-50V-40V-30V-20V-10V0V

10V20V30V40V50V60V70V80V90V

100V

4V8V

12V16V20V24V28V32V36V40V44V48V52V

-24V

-18V

-12V

-6V

0V

6V

12V

18V

24V

30V

36V

42V

V(N001,N007) V(N005,N015) V(N006,N002)

V(N002,N001) V(N007,N005) V(N015,N012)

V(N017,N012)

topGEM-mesh

across GEMs

across transfer gaps

new (float)

old

(used)