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1Sasha Milov HBD internal... July 10, 2007
New divider floating vs. New divider floating vs. groundedgrounded
Sasha Milov
July 10, 2007
2Sasha Milov HBD internal... July 10, 2007
New dividerNew divider
Some other changes:
a) GEMS are not shown because they are made of 28 R/C and are huge.
b) No change in the results compare to the old scheme found
c) In the scheme on the left PS shorts to zero at a trip time. I used 1ms fall time and 1Meg residual resistance on the PS Rout.
d) Changing Rout to zero does not really change much, anyways.
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PULSE({VG} 0 .1 0.001 0 10 100)Rser=1e6
GEM_PS
Rser=1e6
MESH_PS
PULSE({VM} 0 0.1 0.001 0 10 100)
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.param R1 = 20e6
.param R2 = 10e6
.param R3 = 40e6
.param R4 = 2e6
.param R5 = 20e6
.param R6 = 40e6
.tran 0 3 0 .001
.param C2 = 0.335e-9
.param C4 = 0.8e-9
.param C5 = 35.e-9
.param C8 = 1.25e-9
.param C9 = 0.013e-9
.model SWO SW(Ron=1e-3 Roff=1e11 Vt=0.5)
.model SWC SW(Ron=1e11 Roff=1e-3 Vt=0.5)
.param L0 = 2e-6
.param VG = -350
.param VM = -360
.param R9 = 1Bot
Mid
Top
Mesh
3Sasha Milov HBD internal... July 10, 2007
Float vs GroundFloat vs Ground
0.0s 0.3s 0.6s 0.9s 1.2s 1.5s 1.8s 2.1s 2.4s 2.7s 3.0s-50V-40V-30V-20V-10V0V
10V20V30V40V50V60V70V80V90V
100V
4V8V
12V16V20V24V28V32V36V40V44V48V52V
-24V
-18V
-12V
-6V
0V
6V
12V
18V
24V
30V
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42V
V(N001,N007) V(N005,N015) V(N006,N002)
V(N002,N001) V(N007,N005) V(N015,N012)
V(N017,N012)
topGEM-mesh
across GEMs
across transfer gaps
float ground
0.0s 0.3s 0.6s 0.9s 1.2s 1.5s 1.8s 2.1s 2.4s 2.7s 3.0s-100V
-80V
-60V
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12V
V(N094,N011) V(N012,N009) V(N010,N007)
V(N011,N012) V(N009,N010) V(N007,N008)
V(N014,N008)
4Sasha Milov HBD internal... July 10, 2007
Float vs GroundFloat vs GroundGround scheme has advantages:
a)transients dV are smaller (even with Rout = 0 they are so)b)GEM discharges fasterc)Transfer gaps flip sign “momentarily” so to prevent any affect on lower GEM.
Here is my understanding of Floating vs. Grounded PS:In case of a trip one would like to drain energy form the divider. Regardless of the PS, the scheme must have such drainage system with matching R/C’s. We learned it a hard way. Floating PS leaves transient process fully at hands of that drainage system. Grounded PS provides one more sewer, which if all R/C match properly gives another factor in speed, thus safety.
Bob and me measured BERTAN yesterday found it floating with Rout = 150M (guess at Fluke’s limit…)
5Sasha Milov HBD internal... July 10, 2007
0.0s 0.3s 0.6s 0.9s 1.2s 1.5s 1.8s 2.1s 2.4s 2.7s 3.0s-40V-30V-20V-10V0V
10V20V30V40V50V60V70V80V90V
100V
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12V16V20V
24V28V32V
36V40V44V
48V52V
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-12V
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0V
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12V
16V
V(N001,N003) V(N002,N008) V(N007,N016)
V(N016,N014) V(N008,N007) V(N003,N002)
V(N020,N014)
New vs Old dividersNew vs Old dividers
0.0s 0.3s 0.6s 0.9s 1.2s 1.5s 1.8s 2.1s 2.4s 2.7s 3.0s-50V-40V-30V-20V-10V0V
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V(N001,N007) V(N005,N015) V(N006,N002)
V(N002,N001) V(N007,N005) V(N015,N012)
V(N017,N012)
topGEM-mesh
across GEMs
across transfer gaps
new (float)
old
(used)