Report of

Open NIR Meetingat 12th APNIC Open Policy Meeting in Taipei

MAEMURA Akinori, ChairJPNIC IPwg

Equant Japan

Outline and SituationHeld on Thursday 30th, 16:00—19:30Chair has just changed from Lee SeungMin to MAEMURA Akinori The forth NIR meetingThe first OPEN NIR meeting

Previous three are closed within NIR people4 non-NIR people out of 36 participants

Facing the turning point of NIR structure

Agenda - ReportsExperience of working with APNIC

Chia-Nan Hsieh, TWNICthe procedure dealing with IP reqeust from KRNIC ISPs

Moo-Ho Cheon, KRNICOrganizational Change in JPNIC

Izumi Okutani, JPNIC

Agenda – Reports(cont’d)NIR status Report

Son Tran, APNICIntroduction of TWNIC Web-based IP address management system

Tracy Tsai, TWNIC

Status of ISOC-IDMarcelus Ardiwinata, ISOC-ID

Agenda -discussionnew NIR structure (for discussion)

Paul Wilson, APNIC

Discussions in the meetingNew NIR StructureDatabase and registry system

New NIR Structure

NIR isNational Internet RegistryHad formed as “Country NIC” before APNIC launched Had redefined its function to cover cultural and linguistic gap between APNIC and LIRs

IssuesHaving allocation and allocating to LIR recursively causes fragmentation of IP addressMembership has no sufficient difference from ordinary LIR members

Fee structure, vote count,,,Proposed in the previous meeting in KL that we should discuss from “what is an NIR”

But little discussion has made till now

Discussion and ConclusionPaul Wilson presented a discussion stuff (not a proposal) that identified the issues around NIRs and example of possible solutionsActivate the discussion on this issue on nir-discuss mailing list

based on this stuff from nowDiscuss and develop some other proposal back in each NIREstablish a working group if needed after discussion on the list

Database and registry system

DiscussionTWNIC presented its recently developed web-based IP address management- application systemKRNIC has had like this for some yearsJPNIC is under planning the development of whole registry systemAPNIC has its systemIsn’t it redundant and wasteful to develop each own different systems?

ConclusionStart the discussion on the nir-discuss mailing list for collaboration of the development of registry system

Efficiency by synergy for each partySmooth coordination for DB synchronization

Discussion may kick off a Task Force for this project

Possible Collaboration with IRR activities

Wrapping up…Very active and constructive discussion and contribution

3.5 hour continuous meeting is longer than IPv6 session that was so hot

Nir-discuss mailing list is also open to everyone now!

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Thank you!!

Report of Open NIR Meetingat 12th APNIC Open Policy Meeting in Taipei

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